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I think Sunak understands the logic:
- The UK's too populated for fracking so some towns and villages would be negatively impacted.
- Any gas would be sold to the highest bidder globally and there would not be enough to impact global prices.
- It would take several years for gas to be extracted so would come on stream when the immediate crisis is over.

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While I don’t necessarily buy into the view that personalises much of this against Schwab - he’s just a front man - Sunak is certainly constrained by prevailing economic orthodoxy.

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Now that i'm a pensioner no triple lock means i vote for someone else

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Have you seen a fracking site? they are very compact. Have you ever flown over the UK in a plane? it's very unpopulated. That's just weasel words to not do it.

And he has the power to change that.

That mentality is what has got us into this very situation. How about making sure the UK is energy independent for the next crisis?

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I don't want to go too much off-topic on this but to respond to your points.
That's not been the experience to date in this country. Fracking favours large, less populated countries like the US.

I think he will see himself as a Conservative and not a market interventionist lefty.

It's called reality, but we need energy sovereignty by not trying the same thing again and again that doesn't work.

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Glad you are content with the continuing erosion of our civil liberties. The "ability of the police to have the power to ensure public safety" is a continuum of positions. You seem to be happy to move this position to the right of where we have historically been in this country.

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I’m not sure which civil liberties you’re lamenting here? Perhaps you could be more specific. What is it you personally are worried you will no longer be able to do should this become law?

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Schwab is on video boasting how he has planted WEF people into most Western governments.

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I was quite specific in my post above. Anyway, here's a brief video of the Liberty director explaining the threat to MPs: https://twitter.com/i/status/1535271620738269186

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What is interesting is that, following Chris's logic on "we elect a Party, not a PM", if the markets had not been so spooked as they were, Liz Truss's jihadi libertarian crusade could have been allowed to play out for long enough to seriously damage the structural integrity of the economy. Under the rules, she was still a Tory PM and so allowed to depart from the 2019 manifesto and trash the place. Proof that the rules need changing. IMO, we no longer vote for a Party as much we vote for a specific person leading that party. Look at the Thatcher, Blair and Johnson elections ...

I think that if a PM is changed, we should mandate a GE.

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... in which she is not specific at all, but is concerned about a 'paradigm shift' in what is considered criminal behaviour. Likewise, you were earlier not specific at all (unless you're referring to a post earlier than the one I previously replied to?)

Spurrier's submission is hardly bringing anything novel to the discussion in any case. New acts of parliament often bring activities that previously were not criminal into the purview of criminal law. That's sort of the whole point. People find new and inventive ways of imposing themselves on others; eventually the put-upon majority decides enough is enough and begins to demand action. Sooner or later, politicians hear the clamour, realise it's a popular issue, and act on it.

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Germany 1933 undertones all through that second paragraph.

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Please see my earlier comments re: debasement of references to fascism by mindless overuse.

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I think it’s an entirely appropriate use to be fair.

To paraphrase you essentially say a majority can elect away the rights of minorities should they feel suitably aggrieved without reference to any protections of fundamental rights (for example that to protest, or that to strike). Both among the first to go as fascism rises, usually with a democratic mandate.

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That’s not a paraphrase of anything I’ve actually posted here. It’s just a list of dog whistle issues that get a certain section of the British left all riled up.

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I can see no other logical interpretation of this part:

Essentially your suggestion is to invent crimes for previously legal activities based upon populism. Without limits, that’s absolutely fascism in action.

Although I did make a mistake in my previous post because I almost implied if this Government did so it had democratic mandate for it.