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Paul 04-11-2022 14:52

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There are no laws that prevent a company locking you out of its systems.

As stated, thats standard practice. No one has been "fired" yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63511430

mrmistoffelees 04-11-2022 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36139326)
There are no laws that prevent a company locking you out of its systems.

As stated, thats standard practice. No one has been "fired" yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63511430

Odd, I've spoken to two UK employees & 3 in SF all confirming they have.

TheDaddy 04-11-2022 15:56

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Musk's twitter account has been suspended :rofl:

mrmistoffelees 04-11-2022 16:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36139330)
Musk's twitter account has been suspended :rofl:


Superb !!!!!

Hugh 04-11-2022 17:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36139326)
There are no laws that prevent a company locking you out of its systems.

As stated, thats standard practice. No one has been "fired" yet.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-63511430

Have to disagree, Paul - it happens in some exceptional circumstances, but I haven’t seen it as "standard practice" in the 40 years I worked in IT & Business (usually when someone is know to be a "problem").

I’ve been made redundant five times (and been put "at risk" two more times), and never been locked out of systems whilst the redundancy process took place; I’ve also had to run redundancy processes a couple of times, and only in one case did we lock someone out, and that was because they had made it known they were going to be a problem if redundancies were going to happen (but he was still paid until the redundancy process was completed, and his package was agreed).

Paul 04-11-2022 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36139335)
Have to disagree, Paul - it happens in some exceptional circumstances, but I haven’t seen it as "standard practice" in the 40 years I worked in IT & Business (usually when someone is know to be a "problem").

You can disagree all you want, that wont change the fact its normal.
I have been made redundant three times, and in all cases all my access was removed straight away.

I have also been the administrator of countless systems in my working life, and its always been standard practice to remove such access as soon as anyone is made redundant (or fired). In some cases, as soon as they resign (and go on "gardening" leave).

Hugh 04-11-2022 18:38

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We’ve obviously had different experiences.

Pierre 04-11-2022 18:52

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I think it depends on the employee and the role. I’ve seen people supervised by security and escorted from site, ensuring they do not access the network, no doubt their accounts would also have been immediately suspended, when made redundant/ fired.

And others have access whilst on garden leave right up until the day they officially leave.

Hugh 04-11-2022 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36139342)
I think it depends on the employee and the role. I’ve seen people supervised by security and escorted from site, ensuring they do not access the network, no doubt their accounts would also have been immediately suspended, when made redundant/ fired.

And others have access whilst on garden leave right up until the day they officially leave.

:tu:

mrmistoffelees 04-11-2022 19:21

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Removing access to slack and email is to minimise the internal chatter

Done properly code repositories should be protected by sso and adaptive mfa at a minimum
SSH keys can be easily rotated out and if ldap is used those accounts should be managed via the upstream iam/iga

These are the two most important things to protect

Dude111 05-11-2022 09:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
There are no laws that prevent a company locking you out of its systems.

As stated, thats standard practice. No one has been "fired" yet.

Yes and if they are,they should all sue...... I dont think ya can just let someone go w/no reason??

Hugh 05-11-2022 09:55

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Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36139363)
Yes and if they are,they should all sue...... I dont think ya can just let someone go w/no reason??

I thought you lived in the USA?

49 out of the 50 States have "at will" employment laws…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

Quote:

Definition

At-will employment is generally described as follows: "any hiring is presumed to be 'at will'; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals 'for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all

Mick 05-11-2022 12:50

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Employment laws, or lack of them, is big issue in America.

Watch this U.S expat, explain differences between American employment vs UK’s.


Escapee 05-11-2022 21:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36139342)
I think it depends on the employee and the role. I’ve seen people supervised by security and escorted from site, ensuring they do not access the network, no doubt their accounts would also have been immediately suspended, when made redundant/ fired.

And others have access whilst on garden leave right up until the day they officially leave.

I'm that unlucky one that gets to work up until his last day, it's happened to me three out of four times when redundant now.

I applied and got voluntary redundancy back in May, I was accepted and could have gone the same day I was informed, but told them I wanted to work another two weeks to finish off the report I was working on (I had already told the customer that was my plan). The manager sent me comments on the report on the Friday afternoon which was my last day, he thought I was going to respond to them then, yea right!

In contrast, some people were sent off site immediately.

Ramrod 06-11-2022 22:24

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/jack-dorsey-makes-surprising-statement-about-elon-musk-laying-off-half-the-company
Quote:

Former Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey apologized to Twitter employees Saturday morning for growing the company too fast, which led to the current moment where new CEO Elon Musk has now laid off roughly half the company.

Dorsey’s comments come after Musk laid off 3,700 people on Friday in an email from the company’s workforce of 7,500 employees.

“Folks at Twitter past and present are strong and resilient,” Dorsey said. “They will always find a way no matter how difficult the moment. I realize many are angry with me. I own the responsibility for why everyone is in this situation: I grew the company size too quickly. I apologize for that.”


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