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Pierre 26-04-2022 22:47
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36120188)
And all the other ferry companies that are doing the same?
Which ones, name and shame them

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Then what about other shipping?
oh yes, this happened in much of the merchant navy, and other offshore sectors a long ago.

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Then you have the complication as to which country of either side of a route has precedence over the other?
That is why it's covered by International rules.
Well, I’m referring to the U.K., we have the power to regulate what vessels are allowed to operate within our sovereign waters.

nomadking 26-04-2022 23:22
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36120211)
Which ones, name and shame them

oh yes, this happened in much of the merchant navy, and other offshore sectors a long ago.



Well, I’m referring to the U.K., we have the power to regulate what vessels are allowed to operate within our sovereign waters.
Where is your evidence that they are not doing the same?:rolleyes:

Link with examples
Eg

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In early 2021, when Irish Ferries announced plans to bring its low-cost crewing model to the Dover-Calais corridor, unions warned of a race to the bottom.
So who sets the rules for that route? UK or France?
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As Hebblethwaite spelled out in a letter to Shapps: “Under this model, crews are paid for the actual time they work (plus holidays) rather than the previous model in which crews were granted full pay for working 24 weeks a year.”

Pierre 26-04-2022 23:46
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So where was the outrage against those?

papa smurf 27-04-2022 13:11
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'Inexperienced' £5.50-an-hour agency crew are blamed for P&O Ferries ship losing power and drifting in Irish Sea - as the first ferry carrying freight crosses the Channel since 800 workers were sacked



Lowly-paid staff were said to have 'gone on strike' and left the ship adrift five miles off the coast of Northern Ireland for more than an hour on Tuesday afternoon, according to tracking website Marine Traffic, before being escorted to its planned destination at Port of Larne.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Irish-Sea.html

TheDaddy 28-04-2022 11:10
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36120262)
'Inexperienced' £5.50-an-hour agency crew are blamed for P&O Ferries ship losing power and drifting in Irish Sea - as the first ferry carrying freight crosses the Channel since 800 workers were sacked



Lowly-paid staff were said to have 'gone on strike' and left the ship adrift five miles off the coast of Northern Ireland for more than an hour on Tuesday afternoon, according to tracking website Marine Traffic, before being escorted to its planned destination at Port of Larne.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Irish-Sea.html
Who couldn't see this coming, pay peanuts, get monkeys

1andrew1 28-04-2022 17:26
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36120344)
Who couldn't see this coming, pay peanuts, get monkeys
The government should legislate that companies who run ferries within the UK (eg England/Scotland/Wales to Northern Ireland) should pay minimum wage and enter into reciprocal agreements with European countries like France to which other ferries run to. Maybe the lowest minimum wage of the two countries concerned?

We are a proud maritime nation but the issues with P&O Ferries show that our legislation needs updating.

Mick 27-05-2022 16:35
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BREAKING: P&O Ferries struggles to win back customers 10 weeks after brutally sacking 800 crew - ITV News.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-27/...cking-800-crew

Zero sympathy given.

Chris 27-05-2022 16:44
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There there never mind.

1andrew1 27-05-2022 16:47
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How they didn't expect such an outcome is beyond me.

Paul 27-05-2022 17:12
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Serves them right, and entirely predictable.

Halcyon 27-05-2022 17:13
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36123854)
BREAKING: P&O Ferries struggles to win back customers 10 weeks after brutally sacking 800 crew - ITV News.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-05-27/...cking-800-crew

Zero sympathy given.



Well theres a suprise! Said no one ever.


In these times of hardship they go and sack their dedicated crew and expect the public to support them after all this.

Time for them to realise the mess they caused!

Sephiroth 27-05-2022 17:30
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People are fickle. As soon as they can’t get onto a Brittany’s ferry or Eurostar is too expensive they’ll flock back to P&O.

TheDaddy 27-05-2022 17:52
Re: P&O Ferries make 800 British Workers Redundant
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36123865)
People are fickle. As soon as they can’t get onto a Brittany’s ferry or Eurostar is too expensive they’ll flock back to P&O.
While there's an alternative I won't be using them, it's not fickle it's pragmatism

1andrew1 27-05-2022 18:23
Re: P&O Ferries make 800 British Workers Redundant
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36123865)
People are fickle. As soon as they can’t get onto a Brittany’s ferry or Eurostar is too expensive they’ll flock back to P&O.
Assuming P&O is still around by then.

1andrew1 30-05-2022 14:49
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Owners not too in touch with British public opinion!
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Dubai owner of P&O Ferries hails management’s ‘amazing job’ over sackings

DP World head praises UK chief for ‘saving’ company as he insists ‘nobody was hurt’

The head of the Dubai-based group that owns P&O Ferries has insisted it is too late to reverse the decision to sack 800 sailors as he praised its management for doing an “amazing job” in restructuring the UK company.

Speaking to the Financial Times on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos this week, Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem, the chair and chief executive of DP World, expressed irritation at the way the UK government turned on P&O after the company announced in March that it would dismiss 800 workers without consultation.

Sulayem said the decision was taken by the P&O board without input from its Dubai parent, and the move could not be reversed.

“We said many times, [the UK government] can’t do anything now because [the P&O decision] is in the past,” he said, stressing the company’s defence that its available options were to switch to a cheaper workforce or cease operating.

“Peter [Hebblethwaite, P&O chief executive] has done an amazing job because he managed to save the company instead of 3,000 people [being] out of a job,” Sulayem said.
https://www.ft.com/content/be0734b3-...f-a631d664e862


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