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1andrew1 27-09-2021 10:30
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36094769)
John Redwood - the gift that keeps on giving…

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...9&d=1632734735
I sometimes have difficulty in distinguishing the JR parody account from the real account. This is one of those occasions. :D

jonbxx 27-09-2021 10:38
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36094761)
This sucks. All the petrol stations around me have a £30 limit and many are checking fuel gauges before allowing people on the forecourt.

I have drive to Leeds and back on Saturday (which will cost me around £100 in fuel) and as I’m on around half a tank at the moment I can’t seem to find anywhere to let me fill up. I’m really hoping this is sorted by the weekend or it could get messy.

Does anyone know if petrol stations on motorway services are having the same problem?
Petrol stations should go the other way - minimum order per vessel. Say you set it at, I dunno £40, that would deter the 'topper uppers'. Used less than £40 of petrol, tough, £40 please. Make it a 'per vessel' charge too - filling a jerry can on top of filling your car? Another £40 please

TheDaddy 27-09-2021 11:09
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36094773)
Petrol stations should go the other way - minimum order per vessel. Say you set it at, I dunno £40, that would deter the 'topper uppers'. Used less than £40 of petrol, tough, £40 please. Make it a 'per vessel' charge too - filling a jerry can on top of filling your car? Another £40 please
And all the tanks that don't hold £40, just tough is it?

Sephiroth 27-09-2021 11:38
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094771)
I sometimes have difficulty in distinguishing the JR parody account from the real account. This is one of those occasions. :D
What was wrong with what JR said? Or are your remarks Remainer’s scoffage?

jonbxx 27-09-2021 11:43
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36094774)
And all the tanks that don't hold £40, just tough is it?
Way ahead of you there. Average petrol cost per litre is £1.35 so £40 will give you 29.63 litres. According to the chart here, the smallest fuel tanks are 35l which is £54 worth.

Might need different rules for motorbikes I guess :D

papa smurf 27-09-2021 11:49
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36094779)
Way ahead of you there. Average petrol cost per litre is £1.35 so £40 will give you 29.63 litres. According to the chart here, the smallest fuel tanks are 35l which is £54 worth.

Might need different rules for motorbikes I guess :D
going to be a very brave person who tries to charge irate drivers £40 for £20 worth of fuel.

Maggy 27-09-2021 11:58
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I'm fine.I have 3/4 of a tank left. However I used a fair bit trying to get past the queue for the nearest petrol station whilst trying to get to do my weekly shop at Tesco. Muppets!

tweetiepooh 27-09-2021 12:12
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In South Africa price of petrol is set daily, nationally so people don't need to search around for best prices. I guess that when the next petrol could be 100's of km away you don't want to risk running out because it may be cheaper than the small station just ahead of you, even more true in places like Australia. Works though. (Don't know if this is still the case, last trip a few years back.)

Sephiroth 27-09-2021 12:39
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36094785)
In South Africa price of petrol is set daily, nationally so people don't need to search around for best prices. I guess that when the next petrol could be 100's of km away you don't want to risk running out because it may be cheaper than the small station just ahead of you, even more true in places like Australia. Works though. (Don't know if this is still the case, last trip a few years back.)
During the petrol rationing in SA before Mandela, I had to drive from Cape Town to Joburg. Rationing was achieved by allowing the petrol stations to be open for 12 hours only between 06:00 and 18:00. The trick was to get to Bloemfontein before 18:00 to fill up for the dash to Joburg, which was exactly one tank full on a Ford Cortina.

You should have seen the ruckus when the poor dark skinned guy was sent to pull the master electric pumps switch in mid-fill for some poor buggers. He made a bolt for the garage office.

We coasted as much as possible on the Joburg road and running on fumes reached an open garage just outside Joburg at 06:00.

In those days if you were caught siphoning fuel from one car to another after 18:00, it was a 100 Rand fine.


Hom3r 27-09-2021 12:42
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According to the Next Door app, most of the pumps in my town are dry or getting there, with some fuel coming overnight.

I dropped my car off for its service this morning, traffic was a joke, at 7:30am it was worse than pre covid.

Luckily the courtesy car has enough fuel to do the jobs I need to do, the nearby Tesco has queues to the fuel that is blocking access to the store, down from their Queuing to the BP was so bad 2 lorries crossed the traffic island and drove on my side, luckily the bus stop was empty, my local Sainsbury's fuel was shut

Hugh 27-09-2021 12:46
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36094776)
What was wrong with what JR said? Or are your remarks Remainer’s scoffage?
Seriously?

Most vans delivery delivers use can be driven with a standard drivers licence - HGVs, not so much; and a reasonable number of them just use cars for deliveries.

If you can’t tell that a parcel delivery driver isn’t the same as an HGV driver, then I don’t know what more to say - the difference in manoeuvring/reversing a 44 foot 44 ton articulated lorry and a sprinter van is considerable; that will be why it take 8-10 weeks to get an HGV licence, and the course can cost up to £5,000.

Mr K 27-09-2021 12:46
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Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36094785)
In South Africa price of petrol is set daily, nationally so people don't need to search around for best prices. I guess that when the next petrol could be 100's of km away you don't want to risk running out because it may be cheaper than the small station just ahead of you, even more true in places like Australia. Works though. (Don't know if this is still the case, last trip a few years back.)
So that would be a kind of nationalisation? Services provided for the public benefit, not profit.
It's taken time bit the Tories have slowly coming round to it e.g. the railways ate starting to go that way.

Coupled with the new winter of discontent, rising taxes,
massive debt it's like having a Labour govt without it being called Labour !

1andrew1 27-09-2021 13:04
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36094792)
Seriously?

Most vans delivery delivers use can be driven with a standard drivers licence - HGVs, not so much; and a reasonable number of them just use cars for deliveries.

If you can’t tell that a parcel delivery driver isn’t the same as an HGV driver, then I don’t know what more to say - the difference in manoeuvring/reversing a 44 foot 44 ton articulated lorry and a sprinter van is considerable; that will be why it take 8-10 weeks to get an HGV licence, and the course can cost up to £5,000.
All of that. Plus the fact that van drivers for online firms are usually home-based whilst HGV drivers usually have to spend some of their week away from home which is an understandable barrier to recruitment.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36094793)
So that would be a kind of nationalisation? Services provided for the public benefit, not profit.
It's taken time bit the Tories have slowly coming round to it e.g. the railways ate starting to go that way.

Coupled with the new winter of discontent, rising taxes,
massive debt it's like having a Labour govt without it being called Labour !
Even Abba have returned to try and convince us that this is the 1970s! :D

mrmistoffelees 27-09-2021 13:05
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094797)
All of that. Plus the fact that van drivers for online firms are usually home-based whilst HGV drivers usually have to spend some of their week away from home which is an understandable barrier to recruitment.

And since we're on the panic at the pumps thread, even if they could drive an HGV there's then an entirely separate qualification required before you can drive a fuel tanker/trailer.

EDIT: (PDP) ADR qualification

Carth 27-09-2021 13:32
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36094797)
Even Abba have returned to try and convince us that this is the 1970s! :D
I wish my hair and slim waistline would :(


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