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Angua 26-02-2021 16:12
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Daftest part is, all they have done is take the Mr/Mrs off the main headline. The name Mr is still on the packaging.

Still the anti Woke have had a lovey time venting their spleens and given a bunch of free advertising to Hasbro.

Pierre 26-02-2021 16:30
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072076)
Or, the "anti-woke" brigade
I don't think there is an anti-woke brigade, just a common-sense brigade

Sephiroth 26-02-2021 16:37
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36072122)
Why does it outrage you? It's a commercial decision to widen the customer base for vegetable based plastic toys. At worst it will do nothing and at best, there will be more customers.

I am struggling to see the harm here to be honest
Well, your response is not unreasonable.

I'm simply jumping on the woke concept, and taking the "Mr" off "Potato" is another notch for the woke brigade.

jfman 26-02-2021 16:40
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
I’m drawing the line when Little Miss Bossy goes on strike for equal pay and Mr Indecisive becomes non-binary.

papa smurf 26-02-2021 16:48
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072127)
I’m drawing the line when Little Miss Bossy goes on strike for equal pay and Mr Indecisive becomes non-binary.
I feel it's time for me to chip in and say lets not start mashing up genders.

jonbxx 26-02-2021 17:32
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36072126)
I'm simply jumping on the woke concept, and taking the "Mr" off "Potato" is another notch for the woke brigade.
It is a good question - are we as a society not discriminating any more or can we do better? If we can do better, how can that be done without invoking weaponised terms like 'woke'. It's an argument I am sure has been going on for many years, back to the 'no blacks, no irish' days and before.

'Women getting the vote, whatever next'....

Sephiroth 26-02-2021 17:46
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36072138)
It is a good question - are we as a society not discriminating any more or can we do better? If we can do better, how can that be done without invoking weaponised terms like 'woke'. It's an argument I am sure has been going on for many years, back to the 'no blacks, no irish' days and before.

'Women getting the vote, whatever next'....
I don't think you're right there.

There is a difference between virtue signalling which possibly disguises the profit motive, and proper behaviour and tolerance of all human beings (except the woke!).

Woke-ism has gone beyond all bounds of sense and reasonableness. No-platforming; excision of our history and associated vandalism; Churchill was a murderer, etc. "They". It's too much.

Hugh 26-02-2021 18:16
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"Excision of our history"?

There is no excision of history, just a fuller re-telling, which includes the bits some people would rather not have discussed, as it doesn’t show our past in the idealised light they would prefer...

An example would be the Battle of Britain - because most people’s idea of the BoB is what they have seen in British films of the 50s and 60s (and the Biggles etc. books), and the "Commando"-type comics of the 60s and 70s, they believe that the BoB was won by the upper-middle class English officers, with some support from working-class Scottish or Cockney mechanics.

The facts are that 20% of BoB pilots were from outside the U.K.(half of those from Europe), 5 of the 10 leading "Aces" during the BoB were from outside the U.K., and 1/3 of the pilots were Sergeant Pilots, from the working & middle classes.

Also, Hurricanes shot down more German planes than the Spitfire.

This isn’t excising the efforts made by Spitfires and the Officers who piloted them, just showing a fuller picture.

papa smurf 26-02-2021 18:21
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072144)
"Excision of our history"?

There is no excision of history, just a fuller re-telling, which includes the bits some people would rather not have discussed, as it doesn’t show our past in the idealised light they would prefer...

An example would be the Battle of Britain - because most people’s idea of the BoB is what they have seen in British films of the 50s and 60s (and the Biggles etc. books), and the "Commando"-type comics of the 60s and 70s, they believe that the BoB was won by the upper-middle class English officers, with some support from working-class Scottish or Cockney mechanics.

The facts are that 20% of BoB pilots were from outside the U.K.(half of those from Europe), 5 of the 10 leading "Aces" during the BoB were from outside the U.K., and 1/3 of the pilots were Sergeant Pilots, from the working & middle classes.

Also, Hurricanes shot down more German planes than the Spitfire.

This isn’t excising the efforts made by Spitfires and the Officers who piloted them, just showing a fuller picture.
What gender were the planes ?

and the greatest question in aviation history, was Enola gay?

jonbxx 26-02-2021 19:07
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36072141)
I don't think you're right there.

There is a difference between virtue signalling which possibly disguises the profit motive, and proper behaviour and tolerance of all human beings (except the woke!).

Woke-ism has gone beyond all bounds of sense and reasonableness. No-platforming; excision of our history and associated vandalism; Churchill was a murderer, etc. "They". It's too much.
Yeah, it's 'where is the line' that's the big question. People like to trade in absolutes. Using your example Churchill, he was a great wartime leader but not faultless or beyond reproach. His actions during the Bengal famine for example were pretty poor.

History should be reviewed, not put in a box and that's that. If a review of history uncovers or highlight uncomfortable truths then we need a discussion on how we handle this. Challenging our perception of history is a worthwhile exercise. How we react to what we might find is the challenge

Hugh 26-02-2021 20:09
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36072145)
What gender were the planes ?

and the greatest question in aviation history, was Enola gay?
Your contribution, as always, is noted - the forum wouldn’t be the same without you to keep balance with the informative posts... ;)

Mad Max 26-02-2021 20:47
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36072083)
Surely that's just normal people, i see wokies as abnormal bordering on the offensive.

:clap::clap:

TheDaddy 27-02-2021 00:26
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36072145)
What gender were the planes ?

and the greatest question in aviation history, was Enola gay?
Bi, she fecked a lot of people...

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072144)
"Excision of our history"?

There is no excision of history, just a fuller re-telling, which includes the bits some people would rather not have discussed, as it doesn’t show our past in the idealised light they would prefer...

An example would be the Battle of Britain - because most people’s idea of the BoB is what they have seen in British films of the 50s and 60s (and the Biggles etc. books), and the "Commando"-type comics of the 60s and 70s, they believe that the BoB was won by the upper-middle class English officers, with some support from working-class Scottish or Cockney mechanics.

The facts are that 20% of BoB pilots were from outside the U.K.(half of those from Europe), 5 of the 10 leading "Aces" during the BoB were from outside the U.K., and 1/3 of the pilots were Sergeant Pilots, from the working & middle classes.

Also, Hurricanes shot down more German planes than the Spitfire.

This isn’t excising the efforts made by Spitfires and the Officers who piloted them, just showing a fuller picture.
Would that be because there were more hurricanes than spitfires...

Hugh 27-02-2021 01:30
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
Yes, but that’s not what is seen as ‘history" - the Spitfire is seen as the main reason we won the BoB, rather than the reality.

Who Shot Liberty Valance - "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend".

Sephiroth 27-02-2021 10:19
Re: Backlash as BBC teaches NINE year olds there is 100 Genders
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36072197)
Bi, she fecked a lot of people...

---------- Post added at 23:26 ---------- Previous post was at 23:25 ----------



Would that be because there were more hurricanes than spitfires...
No. The officers flew the Spitfires and the flight sergeants flew the Hurricanes.


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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072200)
Yes, but that’s not what is seen as ‘history" - the Spitfire is seen as the main reason we won the BoB, rather than the reality.

Who Shot Liberty Valance - "When the legend becomes fact, print the legend".
No surprise, really when the legendary ME109 pilot, Adolf Galland, when asked by Goering what he needed, said "Herr Reichsmarschall, a squadron of Spitfires!".

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...d-1318925.html


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