Re: U.S, UK and France Launch Missile Strikes in Syria
 

If posting a news item then a link to where it came from is helpful, unlike you.

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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/14/p...kes/index.html

Re: U.S, UK and France Launch Missile Strikes in Syria
 

Excuse me, it did NOT come from anywhere at the time, it was on the news on the TV at the time of posting it. :rolleyes:

Re: U.S, UK and France Launch Missile Strikes in Syria
 

Well my quoted post was not directed at you. Might just be worth stating where it came from then.

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Before the bombing started, l had calls at the door from local councillors regarding the local elections.
A Tory councillor that l spoke with said that he and his colleagues were hoping that TM would do the honourable thing and recall parliament, to seek permission from the house to commence the alliance with the US and France.

He believed that TM will be fighting for her door by going along with DT. Who we know has gone into this 'war' without using his head.

At the end of the day, the UK. Can be targeted by 'silent' Russian hit squads and hit the shores of the UK.

As we all know it easy to get into the UK.

I would love to watch PM QT. But l have other better things to do and then watch an argument in Parliament and TM trying to answer the big question ' why did you go into battle with US and France without our permission. Which some have said is illegal

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We can be targeted they can be targeted everyone can be targeted and that's always been the case so it changes nothing. If the UK becomes too scared to act because of repercussions then we really are a small nation and would be better off out of anything risky we should get out of NATO as that's risky good job we are getting out of the EU that was one big risk and the UK is now out of the risk business. Appeasement always sounds good in the short term trouble is in the medium to longterm it costs more lives, money and time assad and putin being left alone to do whatever they want isn't good for anyone.

Re: U.S, UK and France Launch Missile Strikes in Syria
 

Her Majesty's government has royal prerogative powers, the government is the executive and can issue commands to the military without Parliamentary approval.

When then Prime Minister, David Cameron's vote in 2013 to strike Syria was defeated, he honoured that vote but he didn't have to do so, legally. He could have had the vote, lost as he did and still took military action.

Seeking parliamentary approval has become the standard convention, but they are not necessarily legally enforceable.

This is why you have the apparent Putin appeaser, Corbyn, trying to suggest creating a War Power Act, that requires a vote in the house, to pass any legal test in the future that requires Parliament to approve military action. I think such an Act would bog us down in litigation, while meanwhile we are having bombs thrown over our heads.

But as for May ordering a strike with our allies this weekend, she is legally protected in the sense that a Parliamentary approval may be circumvented to protect either, i)Critical national interests, ii)Prevent humanitarian catastrophe, or iii) In self-defence.

I would say a foreign regime, such as Syria using Chemical weapons comes under "prevent humanitarian catastrophe', which Theresa May will have to justify tomorrow when she speaks in the Commons and likely use this line of passing the legal test for the military strike.

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:tu::clap:

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Quite right, Mick. Some people just want delay in an effort to avoid getting involved at all. In a situation like this, you need to respond immediately, not weeks or months later. Of course, where Corbyn is concerned, it would be never. The evidence he wants would have to be detailed forensic evidence that left not a single ridiculous argument left to argue.

Our justice system requires proof that is 'beyond reasonable doubt', and we certainly have at least that level of proof about Assad's involvement in this latest gas attack. You have to be pretty naive to believe that anyone else can be responsible for this evil deed.

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I don't think those who want to debate it necessarily all want to kick it into the long grass though I suspect JC does. Those I've heard on the radio say that a precedent has been set for a Parliamentary vote on such matters and Parliament could have been recalled to avoid delaying any action. Constitutionally, as Mick has pointed out, Theresa May was perfectly within her powers not to do so.

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Corbyn’s stance has been nothing short of pathetic. This man would be a danger to Britain, if he was PM. But most of us sane people know that.

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You'd think his supporters would have grasped that by now.

I am disheartened by the continuing support that this weak man is getting. For the first time in my life, I am beginning to distrust the wisdom of the electorate. In all previous elections, I have understood the reasons why people have voted as they have. Now I'm beginning to wonder whether the effect of Twitter and social media by reducing everything to soundbites are incapacitating the population in such a way that they can no longer reason for themselves or cope with any detail behind the hysteria.

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That's quite sad - just because some people have a different viewpoint, doesn't make them "unable to reason for themselves".

Have you thought that they might think the same about you?

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l am certainly no fan of Jeremy Corbyn but its insulting and patronising that those who have a different viewpoint as you pointed out are insulted and belittled by some Hugh.

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Just saw this tweet on Corbyn on the Syria strikes and I declare it the tweet of the day....

"Jeremy Corbyn is always wrong. Yesterday he was wrong. Last week he was wrong. 35 years ago he was wrong. He's wrong about everything - he picks the wrong side, he supports the wrong people, he says the wrong things. And this afternoon, again, he got it totally and utterly wrong." Tim Dawson, BBC Comedy Writer.

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We are talking about Jeremy Corbyn here, Hugh.

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What, who think JC should be PM? Sorry, but there's no excuse....:rolleyes: