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Maggy 04-11-2017 10:57
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As I said earlier shouting and pointing the finger at a specific party/ideology just doesn't work. It's not about politics,it's about abuse of power and it's a matter for the institution of Parliament to bring about change and to set up some sort of HR committee/rules to address the issue. This means that the finger pointing needs to cease and some actual cross party discussion/committee needs to be set up to come up with a solution.

papa smurf 04-11-2017 13:15
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Tory MP warns sexual harassment claims may be 'a witch hunt'
Sir Roger Gale said outside bodies would have to be brought in to mitigate the ongoing scandal

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8037211.html


A veteran Tory MP has said the sexual harassment scandal engulfing Westminster has become a "witch hunt."

Sir Roger Gale, who has been MP for North Thanet for 34 years, said MPs and other prominent figures were on a "hiding to nothing" as allegations could be made that would almost impossible to refute.

Mr K 04-11-2017 14:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35923213)
Tory MP warns sexual harassment claims may be 'a witch hunt'
Sir Roger Gale said outside bodies would have to be brought in to mitigate the ongoing scandal

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8037211.html

A veteran Tory MP has said the sexual harassment scandal engulfing Westminster has become a "witch hunt."

Sir Roger Gale, who has been MP for North Thanet for 34 years, said MPs and other prominent figures were on a "hiding to nothing" as allegations could be made that would almost impossible to refute.
Mmm, is Sir Roger the next ? Sunday papers tomorrow, bound to be a few more....

papa smurf 04-11-2017 14:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35923222)
Mmm, is Sir Roger the next ? Sunday papers tomorrow, bound to be a few more....
Sunday politics on telly will be interesting:)

Osem 04-11-2017 19:17
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A Scottish government minister has resigned over previous actions which he said were considered "inappropriate".
Mark McDonald, the SNP MSP for Aberdeen Donside, said he was stepping down from his role as childcare and early years minister.
He apologised and said his attempts to be "humourous" or "friendly" may have led others to become uncomfortable.
It is understood he is one of two SNP members currently being investigated by the party over possible misconduct.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-41872427

Not just Westminster then. Maybe we need another title change...

papa smurf 04-11-2017 19:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35923260)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...itics-41872427

Not just Westminster then. Maybe we need another title change...
shenanigans at holyrude:)

1andrew1 05-11-2017 00:10
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Full explanation as to why Falon left.
Quote:
The cabinet heavyweight’s shock departure on Wednesday followed a phone call from the journalist, Jane Merrick, who informed Downing Street that he had lunged at her and attempted to kiss her on the lips in 2003 after they had lunched together...
Merrick’s account offers a corrective to the suggestion that Fallon was forced out because of his alleged comments to Leadsom. Rather, it seems a pattern of allegedly unacceptable behaviour over the course of many years was the real reason for his spectacular fall.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ual-harassment

Mr K 05-11-2017 08:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35923222)
Mmm, is Sir Roger the next ? Sunday papers tomorrow, bound to be a few more....
And the next is Theresa's Deputy ...
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Theresa May’s deputy, Damian Green, was rocked last night by a former police chief’s claim that pornographic material was discovered on one of his parliamentary computers.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...ters-s7lkjpgcb

denphone 05-11-2017 08:39
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So much for some politicians in setting a right and proper example to their constituents when they cannot set it to themselves..

1andrew1 05-11-2017 09:40
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35923303)
And the next is Theresa's Deputy ...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...ters-s7lkjpgcb
Worth pointing out that Damien Green is denying it. I suspect if he goes, so does the "strong and stable Government" shortly afterwards so the stakes are high in this case.

papa smurf 05-11-2017 09:43
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35923315)
Worth pointing out that Damien Green is denying it. I suspect if he goes, so does the "strong and stable Government" shortly afterwards so the stakes are high in this case.
the burden of proof is on the accuser

1andrew1 05-11-2017 10:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35923317)
the burden of proof is on the accuser
It's up to Theresa May what burden of proof is needed. Although to me he's innocent until proven guilty.
According to the paper:
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Quick, who headed the leak investigation, confirmed to The Sunday Times yesterday that his officers had reported finding “extreme” pornographic material on a parliamentary computer from Green’s office. He will give evidence tomorrow to an inquiry into Green already under way by Sue Gray, Whitehall’s head of propriety and ethics.

denphone 05-11-2017 12:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35923303)
And the next is Theresa's Deputy ...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...ters-s7lkjpgcb
And here is another.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...er-allegations

Osem 05-11-2017 13:56
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Thornberry doesn't seem very happy to comment on anything much to do with her party's handling of this.

https://order-order.com/2017/11/05/t...m-happy-to-go/

Typical really, criticise the other side for their actions (or lack of) but say nothing about your own.

Maggy 05-11-2017 15:56
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To be fair and unbiased there other MPs on the other side who are doing the same..But beware if the female MPs of all parties decide to band together and insist on a system that will investigate and uphold or dismiss each case on the evidence.


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