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Ignitionnet 04-09-2017 12:58

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35915140)
Yup although it's not going that well at the moment either. The other problem is all their missiles aimed at Seoul :erm:. It's a nightmare of a situation for anyone to deal with and it's only gotten harder since they've developed nuclear weapons.

China also have to take a lion's share the reasonability for this happening in the first place. They have been the protectorate of North Korea for years rebuffing American attempts to stop this earlier.

Chinese companies have been selling North Korea missile technology.

If China has genuinely had enough of NK expect them to substantially fortify their border with them to prevent refugees.

China seem to be near the limit. They have stopped much of their trade with them.

While we're at it it'd be good if Middle Eastern countries stopped allowing NK workers there - they are there at the demand of the NK government to earn currency to send home, but of course the ME really likes its cheap labour.

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WaPO

Matth 06-09-2017 02:04

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They need to ship a ton of patriot missile batteries in to SK, and then set out a plan for a crippling strike against NK.
Or maybe not a strike, if one of their nukes could be sabotaged to detonate prematurely, that would be ideal.

If military action is inevitable, then it must be before they get any further along in the development.

Assassination? would be difficult to get close, and taking out Kim wrong-in resolve it, there's probably someone just as bad or worse to take over.
The burning question, do the people believe in "their glorious leader" or are they just to scared not to?

TheDaddy 06-09-2017 07:06

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Originally Posted by Matth (Post 35915452)
They need to ship a ton of patriot missile batteries in to SK, and then set out a plan for a crippling strike against NK.
Or maybe not a strike, if one of their nukes could be sabotaged to detonate prematurely, that would be ideal.

If military action is inevitable, then it must be before they get any further along in the development.

Assassination? would be difficult to get close, and taking out Kim wrong-in resolve it, there's probably someone just as bad or worse to take over.
The burning question, do the people believe in "their glorious leader" or are they just to scared not to?

You know there's 10 000 artillery batteries aimed at and within striking distance of Seoul, it'll be hard to stop some of them getting through and decimating the city no matter how surgical our strikes

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35915193)
Chinese companies have been selling North Korea missile technology.

If China has genuinely had enough of NK expect them to substantially fortify their border with them to prevent refugees.

China seem to be near the limit. They have stopped much of their trade with them.

While we're at it it'd be good if Middle Eastern countries stopped allowing NK workers there - they are there at the demand of the NK government to earn currency to send home, but of course the ME really likes its cheap labour.

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WaPO

Currency trading is what's propping the regime up that's for sure

papa smurf 06-09-2017 11:33

Re: North Korea
 
all you need to know

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ack-video.html

Ignitionnet 06-09-2017 11:59

Re: North Korea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matth (Post 35915452)
They need to ship a ton of patriot missile batteries in to SK, and then set out a plan for a crippling strike against NK.
Or maybe not a strike, if one of their nukes could be sabotaged to detonate prematurely, that would be ideal.

If military action is inevitable, then it must be before they get any further along in the development.

Assassination? would be difficult to get close, and taking out Kim wrong-in resolve it, there's probably someone just as bad or worse to take over.
The burning question, do the people believe in "their glorious leader" or are they just to scared not to?

Military action isn't inevitable. Indeed, it would be very undesirable. The attack on North Korea that would minimise the risk to Seoul would be a massive, pre-emptive nuclear attack. North Korea store artillery in tunnels which essentially ensures that nothing short of nuclear weaponry would be able to inflict the necessary damage in the necessary time.

South Korea's defensive systems are built around missile attack, not artillery. There is no real way to stop artillery shells in flight. Millions would die before the launchers were destroyed.

This ignoring that China have said that they will get involved if a pre-emptive strike happens. They aren't yet ready to have a liberal, Western-style democratic Korea on their doorstep - look at how they're struggling with Hong Kong.

Maggy 06-09-2017 12:18

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So what do N Korea actually want and think they can achieve?

Ignitionnet 06-09-2017 12:41

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35915484)
So what do N Korea actually want and think they can achieve?

They want a unified Korea under their system.

They think, given enough time, they can do so.

In the interim a life of luxury for the ruling family and classes is fine.

papa smurf 06-09-2017 13:29

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35915487)
They want a unified Korea under their system.

They think, given enough time, they can do so.

In the interim a life of luxury for the ruling family and classes is fine.

apparently the ordinary people enjoy eating mud and grass .

Osem 06-09-2017 13:50

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915492)
apparently the ordinary people enjoy eating mud and grass .

Well they've been told it's good for them and KJU is only fat because he's the work workers' 'queen'.

Paul 06-09-2017 13:51

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35915495)
Well they've been told it's good for them.

More likely they have been told it will be very bad for them if they dont ...

Mick 06-09-2017 19:54

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Draft UN Resolution suggests the U.S will seek an oil embargo on North Korea and a asset freeze on Kim Jong Un.

papa smurf 06-09-2017 19:59

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someone's gona open a large can of whoop ass on this little prat

dilli-theclaw 06-09-2017 20:01

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915541)
someone's gona open a large can of whoop ass on this little prat

Donald or Kim ?

Hugh 06-09-2017 20:55

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35915541)
someone's gona open a large can of whoop ass on this little prat

What happens afterwards?

If we've learned anything from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc., is that there has to be a plan for after the military action - otherwise chaos and ongoing conflict ensues.

1andrew1 06-09-2017 21:27

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35915550)
What happens afterwards?
If we've learned anything from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, etc., is that there has to be a plan for after the military action - otherwise chaos and ongoing conflict ensues.

Agreed.
Before then, China and South Korea fear that if there are crippling oil sanctions, North Korea will invade and fire missiles at South Korea. China also fears a wave of refugees in such a situation.


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