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Anypermitedroute 09-05-2016 12:55
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35836470)
I would have thought that it would be in HBO's interests to offer Sky an exclusive deal for first run rights, leaving other platforms to have access after the first runs are completed. This is what happened to AMC's 'Fear The Walking Dead'.

With this sort of deal in place for Sky, HBO could still set up their own web site for this country and add their library of programmes that have already completed their first showings.

Even if the exclusivity period lasted a whole year, it would be a lot better than now.
maybe sales of DVD and boxsets through amazon/apple for non sky subscribers (through Sky or NowTv) are generating enough for them not to bother. I don't know the margins but maybe better than streaming perhaps?

denphone 09-05-2016 13:10
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From what l hear they make a fair sum from sales of DVD's and boxsets.

nialli 09-05-2016 13:15
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35836477)
From what l hear they make a fair sum from sales of DVD's and boxsets.
When they finally materialise. I don't understand why HBO series take almost twelve months to turn up on disc but are available as HD digital downloads (iTunes, Amazon and Google) as soon as a show finishes a season on Sky Atlantic.

gba93 09-05-2016 13:30
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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35836478)
When they finally materialise. I don't understand why HBO series take almost twelve months to turn up on disc but are available as HD digital downloads (iTunes, Amazon and Google) as soon as a show finishes a season on Sky Atlantic.
They probably turn a better profit from downloads than discs

denphone 09-05-2016 13:35
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Well that's a question they need to answer as sell through movies are released much quicker onto the sell through market and quite a few series from ITV and the BBC are generally released pretty much after they have finished.

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Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 35836483)
They probably turn a better profit from downloads than discs
Surprising as downloads are pretty expensive in my book.

passingbat 09-05-2016 14:40
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What I don't like about digital downloads of box sets is that they don't seem to drop in price. The DVD box set price drops as they get older. And of course, for valid reasons, you can't buy a second hand copy of a digital download. Often, second hand DVD box sets are an absolute bargain.

When DVDs eventually disappear, building a video library will become very expensive.

denphone 09-05-2016 14:45
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We bought GOT 5 for under £7 second hand on a auction site and its near enough brand new.

Media Boy UK 09-05-2016 15:49
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Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media UK testing new broadcasting streams.

Media Boy Sources has told us today:

Quote:
Virgin Media UK have started to test new streams out.

Virgin Media have add about 20% new frequency for any of the following:

-TV channels,
-Radio channels,
-apps,
-Broadband streams (download, upload,),
-Support TIVO,
-And all broadband routers.
No new channels are testing on them yet but new stream are testing.

But we can confirmed that BBC Red Button stream are ready for broadcast as the never removed last summer.

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

nialli 09-05-2016 15:55
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35836494)
What I don't like about digital downloads of box sets is that they don't seem to drop in price. The DVD box set price drops as they get older. And of course, for valid reasons, you can't buy a second hand copy of a digital download. Often, second hand DVD box sets are an absolute bargain.

When DVDs eventually disappear, building a video library will become very expensive.
Not sure about that. On Amazon, GoT season 5 is today £22.99 as an HD download, but £33 on Blu-Ray and £30 on DVD. Older seasons are cheaper as downloads too (season 1 is £14.99 in HD now).

But I agree about secondhand box sets being the best value.

passingbat 09-05-2016 16:45
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35836496)
We bought GOT 5 for under £7 second hand on a auction site and its near enough brand new.
I picked up the second season of Nikita (2011 -2014 series) for £2.69 with free postage.

I rip my DVDs so not fussed at the box condition provided the discs play.

I've been buying CDs and DVDs for many, many years with just one or two bad discs turning up, which are returnable. I tend to use Zoverstocks via Amazon Market place, who are the same company as Music Magpie online and estocks on Ebay. Even though they are the same company, prices can differ between them.

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35836503)
Not sure about that. On Amazon, GoT season 5 is today £22.99 as an HD download, but £33 on Blu-Ray and £30 on DVD. Older seasons are cheaper as downloads too (season 1 is £14.99 in HD now).

But I agree about secondhand box sets being the best value.
Yep, prices do vary and bargains come along. I've got into the habit of checking the prices of all format options. The first 22 episode season of Nikita (a month or so ago) was £4.99 in HD digital download from Amazon, so grabbed that, but the second season in HD is £19.99; way too much IMHO.

1andrew1 09-05-2016 17:12
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35836470)
I would have thought that it would be in HBO's interests to offer Sky an exclusive deal for first run rights, leaving other platforms to have access after the first runs are completed. This is what happened to AMC's 'Fear The Walking Dead'.

With this sort of deal in place for Sky, HBO could still set up their own web site for this country and add their library of programmes that have already completed their first showings.

Even if the exclusivity period lasted a whole year, it would be a lot better than now.
I think it would be hard to have a stand-alone HBO streaming service selling year-old content that has already been on pay TV. This type of service could work as a bundled channel like Fox but would not support a stand-alone service.

andrewstevenson 09-05-2016 17:51
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35836502)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media UK testing new broadcasting streams.

Media Boy Sources has told us today:



No new channels are testing on them yet but new stream are testing.

But we can confirmed that BBC Red Button stream are ready for broadcast as the never removed last summer.

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.
Can I ask can that new streams be used for new additional tuners

RichardCoulter 09-05-2016 17:51
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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35836494)
What I don't like about digital downloads of box sets is that they don't seem to drop in price. The DVD box set price drops as they get older. And of course, for valid reasons, you can't buy a second hand copy of a digital download. Often, second hand DVD box sets are an absolute bargain.

When DVDs eventually disappear, building a video library will become very expensive.
More people are now streaming as opposed to buying DVD's.

In the short term you might be able to get a bargain, but as you say it will take things more difficult in the long term.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201605074...#axzz48B4le1hv

Media Boy UK 09-05-2016 18:49
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Due to circumstances beyond our control the next thread will launch in late December and will be called "Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)".

andrewstevenson 09-05-2016 18:57
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35836534)
Due to circumstances beyond our control the next thread will launch in late December and will be called "Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)".
I don't get why that is a bad thing


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