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Arthurgray50@blu 24-01-2013 23:48
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Chris CFT, you ceratinly do your research, but people change you know.

Hugh 24-01-2013 23:51
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35527223)
That's a yes then.

I thought so too. he really thinks he's important now amongst all the other 'leaders'
Obama is still the man in my eyes though. Dave will never be in his class.
Once again, you would be wrong - that's a no, then.

Sirius 25-01-2013 00:14
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35527217)
Anyone else think that Dave thinks he's God. and is going to take over the world?
No

Gary L 25-01-2013 00:26
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35527229)
No
I don't mean he is going to take over the world. just that he thinks he can.

I heard a new nickname for him tonight. Mr Blobby :)

Sirius 25-01-2013 07:51
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35527232)
I don't mean he is going to take over the world. just that he thinks he can.

I heard a new nickname for him tonight. Mr Blobby :)
Well done Gary on giving us the perspective from the kindergarten. :tu:

Damien 25-01-2013 09:53
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Here is a question: Who may vote in the referendum? EU Citizens that effectively live here can vote in local and European elections whereas they cannot vote in the Parliamentary elections. Since EU Citizens can vote in European elections and since this issue could impact upon them will they be allowed to vote in the referendum or will it be limited to UK nationals?

What would happen to EU citizens who live here if we left the EU? Would they get a right to remain or will the Immigration service turn up to turf them out?

Sirius 25-01-2013 12:50
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35527273)
Here is a question: Who may vote in the referendum? EU Citizens that effectively live here can vote in local and European elections whereas they cannot vote in the Parliamentary elections. Since EU Citizens can vote in European elections and since this issue could impact upon them will they be allowed to vote in the referendum or will it be limited to UK nationals?

What would happen to EU citizens who live here if we left the EU? Would they get a right to remain or will the Immigration service turn up to turf them out?
I would prefer that the referendum is limited to UK nationals. As for remaining here after the vote should it be Yes to leaving, i would expect those EU citizens already here would be offered the right to remain

Mick Fisher 25-01-2013 15:39
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35527263)
Well done Gary on giving us the perspective from the kindergarten. :tu:
True but I have to admit to being quite amused by Gary's post. :D

martyh 25-01-2013 16:19
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35527351)
I would prefer that the referendum is limited to UK nationals. As for remaining here after the vote should it be Yes to leaving, i would expect those EU citizens already here would be offered the right to remain
and we would be more able to kick them off state benefits until they have earned them,and if they cannot find a job or will not give up their black market job while claiming benefits then the country they came from can support them using their own benefit system instead of ours

Hugh 25-01-2013 16:37
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If we left the EU, I wonder how this would affect all the Brit ex-pats in France, Spain, Cyprus, etc.

Damien 25-01-2013 16:45
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35527470)
and we would be more able to kick them off state benefits until they have earned them,and if they cannot find a job or will not give up their black market job while claiming benefits then the country they came from can support them using their own benefit system instead of ours
I think it doesn't work like that. I posted this prior albeit no one really followed it up..

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...rom_abroad.htm

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In practice, even if you come from one of [EU] countries, you won't automatically get benefits. For example, if you’re an EEA jobseeker who has never worked in the UK, you won't be able to claim benefits like Income Support, income-based Jobseeker's Allowance, Child Benefit, Housing Benefit or Council Tax Benefit. But if you're an EEA worker who has been employed in the UK before becoming unemployed, you might be able to claim benefits whilst you’re looking for new work. This depends on which EEA country you're from and how long you've worked in the UK.

Sirius 25-01-2013 16:47
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35527490)
If we left the EU, I wonder how this would affect all the Brit ex-pats in France, Spain, Cyprus, etc.
Indeed it will be an issue for them.

Damien 25-01-2013 16:48
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35527490)
If we left the EU, I wonder how this would affect all the Brit ex-pats in France, Spain, Cyprus, etc.
I really want to know this. Especially in the other direction.

Sirius 25-01-2013 16:50
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35527498)
I think it doesn't work like that. I posted this prior albeit no one really followed it up..

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...rom_abroad.htm
Lots of info here for brits working abroad

http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/claiming-benefits-in-europe

Info for this country here

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_ad...g_and_benefits

martyh 25-01-2013 17:07
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35527498)
I think it doesn't work like that. I posted this prior albeit no one really followed it up..

http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/englan...rom_abroad.htm

They can however claim jobseekers ,use the NHS and schools .I realise that it is not simply a case of foreigners turning up and taking our money but outside of the EU we would have a lot more freedom to turn foreign workers away and also asylum seekers who do get housing and benefits


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