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martyh 06-10-2012 17:35
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35482193)
I've lost track. It was reported as her Grandmother but now its the Godmother? News reports also say they were just volunteers searching. ?
to be honest i am just going off the original clip posted in a earlier post



On a side note i am hoping that the police and the cps have got this right .The police charged the bloke at the 'eleventh hour' which suggests to me that they don't have a fat lot to go on ,i hope they haven't concentrated too much on this one suspect only for it to all fall down around their heads and the real perp get away.

Derek 06-10-2012 17:58
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482199)
On a side note i am hoping that the police and the cps have got this right .The police charged the bloke at the 'eleventh hour' which suggests to me that they don't have a fat lot to go on ,i hope they haven't concentrated too much on this one suspect only for it to all fall down around their heads and the real perp get away.
The CPS need there to be enough evidence for there to be a realistic prospect of conviction, they won't just charge someone for the hell of it.

The fact they decided to arrest him for murder and not just keep him in on the abduction arrest speaks volumes. That, the focussing of the search area and what they've NOT said suggests there has either been a confession or other evidence supporting the murder charge.

If there wasn't evidence for murder I'd imagine they would have charged him with abduction and opposed bail which would have kept him locked up for a bit anyway.

Chris 06-10-2012 17:58
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482199)
to be honest i am just going off the original clip posted in a earlier post



On a side note i am hoping that the police and the cps have got this right .The police charged the bloke at the 'eleventh hour' which suggests to me that they don't have a fat lot to go on ,i hope they haven't concentrated too much on this one suspect only for it to all fall down around their heads and the real perp get away.
The police cannot question someone after he has been charged. As they have not recovered April's body they will have wanted to go right to the wire in the hope that they could wring that information out of the person they believe killed her.

Sirius 06-10-2012 18:06
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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 35482195)
I haven't watched the news today, but i`m not surprised. What I, & I suppose all of us want to know, is why?? What posses a man to kidnap a helpless child, then kill her. I can understand people killing for a cause, hell, I can even respect some people killing for their cause, but a child??


:mad::mad:
We don't have a deterrent that puts the fear of god into these *******s.

Mick 06-10-2012 18:50
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482187)
she was the godmother
No it wasn't the God mother - they were friends of the family and one of many searching for the missing girl. They could have just easily watched the press conference by the Police.

SMG 06-10-2012 18:51
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35482209)
We don't have a deterant that puts the fear of god into these *******s.
I don't think there is any deterrent for crime any more, I can only hope the killer spends his life nursing a bruised, bleeding & swollen backside.

martyh 06-10-2012 18:58
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35482206)
The CPS need there to be enough evidence for there to be a realistic prospect of conviction, they won't just charge someone for the hell of it.

The fact they decided to arrest him for murder and not just keep him in on the abduction arrest speaks volumes. That, the focussing of the search area and what they've NOT said suggests there has either been a confession or other evidence supporting the murder charge.

If there wasn't evidence for murder I'd imagine they would have charged him with abduction and opposed bail which would have kept him locked up for a bit anyway.
Actually i have thought that the police have given very little information out since his arrest i put that down to him not saying anything but maybe he has has been telling them stuff and they don't want the media getting it untill they have built a case



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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35482207)
The police cannot question someone after he has been charged. As they have not recovered April's body they will have wanted to go right to the wire in the hope that they could wring that information out of the person they believe killed her.
That explains it then

TheDaddy 06-10-2012 19:16
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35482209)
We don't have a deterant that puts the fear of god into these *******s.
Trial by combat might...

martyh 06-10-2012 19:27
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35482209)
We don't have a deterant that puts the fear of god into these *******s.
I don't think any deterant would work to be honest ,most of these type of crimes are led by emotion and psychological failings which means that reason ,consequence and punishment take a back seat which is evident in this case by the way he was arrested .Assuming he did murder the girl he was picked up in the street of the village presumably acting as though nothing had happened instead of doing a runner

Derek 06-10-2012 19:32
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35482228)
Actually i have thought that the police have given very little information out since his arrest i put that down to him not saying anything but maybe he has has been telling them stuff and they don't want the media getting it untill they have built a case
There is plenty they could have said at the press conferences and in interviews but by not mentioning it it's pretty clear to me they knew she was dead early on in the enquiry :(

Hopefully they can find her to return her to the family.

martyh 06-10-2012 19:43
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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35482239)
There is plenty they could have said at the press conferences and in interviews but by not mentioning it it's pretty clear to me they knew she was dead early on in the enquiry :(

Hopefully they can find her to return her to the family.

here's hoping

SMG 06-10-2012 20:45
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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35482239)

Hopefully they can find her to return her to the family.


Amen to that, so sad, at least they can grieve.

tizmeinnit 06-10-2012 20:51
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35482209)
We don't have a deterrent that puts the fear of god into these *******s.
sobering thought. In 2009 /2010 in the UK there were 626 murders. In Texas in 2010 there were 1249 murders.There are over 2 times the number of people in the UK and Texas has the death penalty and uses it. So that shows the death penalty does not deter crime

figures taken from below links

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/txcrime.htm

http://www.citizensreportuk.org/repo...olence-uk.html

danielf 06-10-2012 21:11
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35482207)
The police cannot question someone after he has been charged.
Huh? Why is that then?

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Originally Posted by tizmeinnit (Post 35482252)
sobering thought. In 2009 /2010 in the UK there were 626 murders. In Texas in 2010 there were 1249 murders.There are over 2 times the number of people in the UK and Texas has the death penalty and uses it. So that shows the death penalty does not deter crime
The best deterrent against crime is is not stiff sentencing. It's the perception of there being a high likelihood of getting caught.

Derek 06-10-2012 21:38
Re: Abduction of 5 Year old Girl April Jones
 
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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35482253)
Huh? Why is that then?
Fairness to the accused... :rolleyes:

Once charged no further questions can be asked to prevent the Police charging someone and hoping the shock will loosen their tongues. They can make a voluntary statement but thats pretty rare.


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