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Maggy 04-06-2015 10:42

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And just how effective it will be with the cutbacks in the police force remains to be seen.

Taf 04-06-2015 11:42

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Exactly. And the question of what to do if the smoker is under 18 does not seem to have been addressed.

"A Smoke Free Wales" is gathering momentum. I wonder how "they" will feel when Wales is given tax-raising powers, including tobacco tax? And then there is no tobacco tax 'cos it's a "Smoke Free Wales" ? Border guards ready to confiscate illegally imported baccy?

Gary L 04-06-2015 11:50

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35781327)
And just how effective it will be with the cutbacks in the police force remains to be seen.

Exactly.
you could drive without a seatbelt whilst using a mobile phone and smoking a fag.

there's only a copper who can do anything.

you might have one pass you coming the other way 15 miles into your journey. he might not notice. or if he did notice he has to decide whether he can be arsed.

then you travel for another 50 miles knowing that the odds are probably 500 to 1.
500 cars to 1 copper.

Hugh 04-06-2015 12:15

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It's like a stream of consciousness, only without the consciousness..... ;)

mrmistoffelees 04-06-2015 12:19

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What happens if you drive a convertible..... ?

Gary L 04-06-2015 12:25

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35781340)
It's like a stream of consciousness, only without the consciousness..... ;)

I keep telling you. it's the doctor you need to be telling. not us :D

Taf 04-06-2015 13:59

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35781341)
What happens if you drive a convertible..... ?

They'd probably fine you for polluting the air of minor pedestrians.

A full in-car smoking ban is next I suspect.

Russ 04-06-2015 14:39

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35781363)
They'd probably fine you for polluting the air of minor pedestrians.

A full in-car smoking ban is next I suspect.

And I'd welcome that. You cannot concentrate on the road if you're trying to light up at the same time.

mrmistoffelees 04-06-2015 15:14

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35781374)
And I'd welcome that. You cannot concentrate on the road if you're trying to light up at the same time.

Nor can you by changing the radio station/cd/track on spotify or taking a drink from a coffee/can of pop


So lets not install car stereos or cupholders just to make sure

Russ 04-06-2015 15:20

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35781378)
Nor can you by changing the radio station/cd/track on spotify

All those can be done from the steering wheel.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35781378)
or taking a drink from a coffee/can of pop

Indeed people have been prosecuted for doing that.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35781378)
So lets not install car stereos or cupholders just to make sure


Emotive much? I can lift a can to my lips when driving and keep my eyes on the road. In fact I'd say just about everyone could.

mrmistoffelees 04-06-2015 15:26

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35781381)
All those can be done from the steering wheel.



Indeed people have been prosecuted for doing that.




Emotive much? I can lift a can to my lips when driving and keep my eyes on the road. In fact I'd say just about everyone could.

I can reach for a cigarette and use a lighter whilst keeping my eyes on the road, your point being?

Surely the action is having a hand off the steering wheel/gear lever etc. therefore not being in full control of the vehicle.

Russ 04-06-2015 15:36

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 35781384)
I can reach for a cigarette and use a lighter whilst keeping my eyes on the road, your point being?

Surely the action is having a hand off the steering wheel/gear lever etc. therefore not being in full control of the vehicle.

I've not said anything about taking your hands off the wheel. I'm talking about taking your EYES off the road. Only you'd know for certain but I'd find it very hard to believe you can light up without looking at what you're doing. Every person I've ever seen lighting up keeps their eyes on it.

Once you've lit the cigarette do you keep it in your mouth for the full journey?

Gary L 04-06-2015 15:39

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I get distracted from all the girls in short skirts and long legs in this weather.

I've been very close to having an accident.

Hugh 04-06-2015 15:39

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And what about in your car?

mrmistoffelees 04-06-2015 15:45

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35781388)
I've not said anything about taking your hands off the wheel. I'm talking about taking your EYES off the road. Only you'd know for certain but I'd find it very hard to believe you can light up without looking at what you're doing. Every person I've ever seen lighting up keeps their eyes on it.

Once you've lit the cigarette do you keep it in your mouth for the full journey?

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Emotive much? I can lift a can to my lips when driving and keep my eyes on the road. In fact I'd say just about everyone could.
Right there......

No, I tend to flick the ash out of the window occasionally, my cigarettes and lighter stay in the hollow just in front of where my handbrake is

I don't think your eyes are going to help much if you suddenly need to steer, change gear and brake at the same time?


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