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Stuart 25-04-2011 21:48

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Originally Posted by Stuart (Post 35222091)
While I wouldn't put it past VM to do that, they aren't actually denying there is any problem. On the contrary, they are rushing a new version of the firmware in an apparent effort to fix the problem you seem to think they are denying.

Furthur to the above, I don't think VM are likely to do anymore than they have. Everyone appears to want a public announcement that there is a problem.

If they do that, they run the risk of repeating the Ratner situation. Remember that? Gerald Ratner said that their products were crap. Sales fell through the floor and the Ratner's chain (and subsidaries) were later sold off for a fraction of what they were worth before the comments.

The problem would be (as it was with the comments mentioned above) is that the media will take the announcement and turn it into a story that gives people the impression the whole service is crap. Particularly, I suspect, the Murdoch-owned section of the press.

Sirius 25-04-2011 21:49

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35222101)
Modem mode was not first promised for release in June. It was promised for May.

I just wish they would bring it out so those who have problems have a way of fixing that problem by using there own router. We might then get some peace on here :)

pip08456 25-04-2011 21:58

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35222107)
I am sure it was May/June but it will be here soon enough anyway.

It was the beginning of May, not May/june.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35222116)
I just wish they would bring it out so those who have problems have a way of fixing that problem by using there own router. We might then get some peace on here :)

Agreed.:D

Chrysalis 25-04-2011 22:02

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35222107)
I am sure it was May/June but it will be here soon enough anyway.

It was start of may, june is what appeared in a recent announcement. If comes end of june its effectively 2 months behind.

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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35222116)
I just wish they would bring it out so those who have problems have a way of fixing that problem by using there own router. We might then get some peace on here :)

people did manage to workaround the issues but VM went out of their way to block the method of enabling bridge mode in the old firmware.

pip08456 25-04-2011 22:05

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35222126)
people did manage to workaround the issues but VM went out of their way to block the method of enabling bridge mode in the old firmware.

Which begs the question - Why is bridge mode taking so long?

craigj2k12 25-04-2011 22:12

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Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35222097)
I only state that mine works without issue, it just works regardless of how I set it up and it has never rebooted once apart from an outage 2 weeks ago, it may just be the local network has no issues.

If the were major issues we would be made aware and all we have been told is that the R26 has been released and that modem mode should appear in around 2 months time which was the promised date of June which people seem to have forgotten.

as a disclaimer I wasnt referring to you directly boss ;)

although there are always 2 sides to an argument, as there are to sides to a coin, people have issues, some dont. I will say though, you mustn't have manually forwarded many ports if yours has had no problems. I havnt used mine since R25, but every time i forwarded more than 3 ports it completely locked up

i was just saying in my post that VM staff seem to defend the superhub quite a lot, but as you can see from the title of this thread not everyone has problems with it

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35222135)
Which begs the question - Why is bridge mode taking so long?

look at the success of the firmwares they have released recently, they have brought along more problems than they have resolved!!!

the coding team clearly arent up to scratch, or there is a communication break down at netgear, because the buggy updates shouldn't be released with the extent of problems which they had

Chrysalis 25-04-2011 22:20

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3 ports? wow you lucky.

on my tests if i even forwarded 1 port the superhub started having routing issues but ok I give in as mine didnt lock up. :) I did have that time it wouldnt boot up for a few hours tho.

I can confirm the lan traffic reboots for sure, I only had to send a 100meg file over my lan and it rebooted. when I forced a 100mbit lan speed it was ok tho but couldnt max out the speed, my dir615 out performs it on 100mbit connection speeds. on gigabit its less than half the throughput of my billion 7402nx and self rebooted.

Peter_ 26-04-2011 04:53

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Originally Posted by craigj2k11 (Post 35222144)
as a disclaimer I wasnt referring to you directly boss ;)

although there are always 2 sides to an argument, as there are to sides to a coin, people have issues, some dont. I will say though, you mustn't have manually forwarded many ports if yours has had no problems. I havnt used mine since R25, but every time i forwarded more than 3 ports it completely locked up

i was just saying in my post that VM staff seem to defend the superhub quite a lot, but as you can see from the title of this thread not everyone has problems with it


Running the Superhub as standard with no ports forwarded at all and I have 2 wireless networks n the property one being the hub and the other my Edimax router running as an access point with similar output from both.

It works for me and if it had any major issues on my connection I would downgrade to 20Mb.

AL123 26-04-2011 11:40

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35222126)
It was start of may, june is what appeared in a recent announcement. If comes end of june its effectively 2 months behind.

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people did manage to workaround the issues but VM went out of their way to block the method of enabling bridge mode in the old firmware.

Hi i've read alot of this and on the virgin media forum and i'm still confused!
as i understand it you can still run an additional router as an access point at the very least? Luckily we still have an old D link router that i have set up in acess point mode in our hosue as the wireless was apalling on the superhub. I guess the downside would be lack of hardware firewall in that case?

Also I still can't fathom whether with the r26 firmware i can renable the firewall and ip flood detection or even use the superhub wireless now. Currenly i have also diabled the wireless as the D link router is quite near to the superhub

Cheers

Al

Fspiders 26-04-2011 18:25

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Up till Friday morning I would agreed with the OP. Never had a single drop out with great wireless connection and no lagging in xbox and playstation. The blue light only flashing when accessing data etc'.

However Thursday night VM upgraded me from r25 to r26 and also upgraded the 1m upload to 3. Since then it's been a nightmare, the damn thing rarely keeps connected more than 10 minutes and the blue light continuously flashes even with no computers connected. After 3 days of switching it on and off it's finally died, I have 3 blue lights with no network or internet.

So now I'm on a 3g dongle waiting for a new super hub. Why they had to mess with my hub I've no idea and I've no faith in the new hub being any better if it's got the same firmware version in it.

One good thing came out of it. VM said throw the old hub away... So I've had a great 10 minutes introducing it to my lump hammer :)

I've saved the 2 little aerials out of it as they might increase the signal if added to the original two in the hub.

Regards.

adduxi 26-04-2011 22:14

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Originally Posted by Fspiders (Post 35222713)
One good thing came out of it. VM said throw the old hub away... So I've had a great 10 minutes introducing it to my lump hammer :)
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Teriffic! Did you get lots of close up pictures of the insides? Really like to see what is in the wee beasty, and on the circuit boards. :cool:

pip08456 26-04-2011 22:31

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Especially the chip it's using.

Fspiders 27-04-2011 09:43

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3 Attachment(s)
Funny you should ask that lol.

Attachment 22151Attachment 22152Attachment 22153

Have the details off all the chips on the board so if you need any details of a particular chip let me know.

Regards.

Chrysalis 27-04-2011 09:52

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why am I not surprised the board looks bare and way smaller than the casing :)

craigj2k12 27-04-2011 10:30

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if i ever get told to throw mine away, it will be introduced to my uncles 12 gauge shotgun!!


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