Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35148260)

I know you have loyalties to your employer which of course is fine but I simply don't believe Sky are that worried about a competitor launching a set top box, it dosen't work like that. Since when has a set top box been the deciding factor for a new customer, free PVR's are the norm anyway now. Sky acknowledge it has given them something to think about though but I can see their upcoming ad campaign now.

What better spoiler than Sky Atlantic to trump VM for a potential new customer? It will be content this, content that and there is nothing VM, BT or anyone can do about it.

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35148260)

I know you have loyalties to your employer which of course is fine but I simply don't believe Sky are that worried about a competitor launching a set top box, it dosen't work like that. Since when has a set top box been the deciding factor for a new customer, free PVR's are the norm anyway now. Sky acknowledge it has given them something to think about though but I can see their upcoming ad campaign now.

What better spoiler than Sky Atlantic to trump VM for a potential new customer? It will be content this, content that and there is nothing VM, BT or anyone can do about it.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35148268)

Sky Atlantic or TiVo? hmmmm I know what I'd go for ;)

SA is going to be a niche market. Look how many viewers some of those programmes were getting on terrestrial.

Whilst having SA would have been a welcome addition for the odd show, there is more than enough content on VM, be it VOD or linear tv channels.

Sky will make a lot of noise about it (SA) of course, like they always do :D

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35148271)

But with respect DF are you a typical Joe Bloggs TV subscriber?

Most people don't have a clue what Tivo or any hardware is, or care. All they want to do is get home from work, feed the kids and get on the sofa with the missus and watch TV, not everyone is a techie.

If you honestly think more people would choose a STB for a couple of hundred pounds over a free PVR and a channel showing their favourite shows then good luck to you, but I think you are wrong.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35148273)

Nothing typical about me, I'm unique ;) :D ... seriously though, a lot of guys (and gals!) are techie and will want TiVo, especially if they already enjoy V+HD or similar products.

TiVo is much less a niche product than SA. IMO.

The cost thing will change at some point too.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35148273)

Nothing typical about me, I'm unique ;) :D ... seriously though, a lot of guys (and gals!) are techie and will want TiVo, especially if they already enjoy V+HD or similar products.

TiVo is much less a niche product than SA. IMO.

The cost thing will change at some point too.

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35148282)

I would consider myself a bit of a techie as you put it ,but unless you have the content to compete with Sky what use is TiVo, and you have to balance cost against content.

Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35148282)

I would consider myself a bit of a techie as you put it ,but unless you have the content to compete with Sky what use is TiVo, and you have to balance cost against content.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35148296)

Couldnt agree more Virgin have worked hard and TIVO looks great but at the moment HD is still lacking heres just a few problems

1. Not enough HD Documentary channels
2. No kids HD channels at all
3. New TIVO STB to high a price when your only renting the box
4. HD On demand doesnt work after 6.00pm in my area always get We are experiencing High demand but yet you can watch the SD counterpart no problem. Been like this the last two nights.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35148298)

What City are you in?

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35148289)

I genuinely couldn't disagree with you more, a channel that shows, amongst other things, HBO shows is more niche than a set top box? 10 million Sky homes will have access to SA at launch, how many Tivo boxes are VM planning to rent out! You do know that there are less than 3m in circulation in the US, I don't know how many homes are in the US but over 300m people live there!

Let's agree to disagree as we are poles apart me thinks.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35148299)

Wigan Area Code 01 I think.

Originally Posted by mersey70 (Post 35148289)

I genuinely couldn't disagree with you more, a channel that shows, amongst other things, HBO shows is more niche than a set top box? 10 million Sky homes will have access to SA at launch, how many Tivo boxes are VM planning to rent out! You do know that there are less than 3m in circulation in the US, I don't know how many homes are in the US but over 300m people live there!

Let's agree to disagree as we are poles apart me thinks.

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Well like you I'm not bothered about getting Sky Atlantic for myself but can see advantages to having a tivo box so I guess we are both exeptions to your rule. :). Or at least will be when the tivo boxes are sold at a price that is to your liking.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35148301)

Seriousley though guys im not bashing VM theyve improved loads but I just feel the time is right to now concentrate on HD and better content in general. I wish theyd chase other channels in HD rather than Sky.

Originally Posted by Digital Fanatic (Post 35148302)

You are fed from the same Headend as me (Preston RHE) and very rarely see issues myself for 9132.

Preston in general is a good headend for VOD and we don't have many faults. When was the last time you had an error and was it 9132 or something else?