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Flyboy 03-05-2010 19:28
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35013244)
if thats the word you want you use then fair enough :rolleyes: but yes several posters (me included)had no sympathy for him and were glad he died instead of causing the death of someone else which has very nearly happened in this case
The two premises are completely separate contexts. One can have sympathy with the victim, because he did not cause anyone else any harm, but you seem to be glad because he might have, which makes no sense at all.

martyh 03-05-2010 19:43
Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013284)
The two premises are completely separate contexts. One can have sympathy with the victim, because he did not cause anyone else any harm, but you seem to be glad because he might have, which makes no sense at all.
not at all FB i am glad he died instead of someone else makes perfect sense to normal right minded people
Now if you read the link provided by Derek you will note that there were 71 callouts for the fire brigade as people reported homes filling with smoke ,even a baby monitor catching fire and setting fire to a cot ,the thieves have not as yet been caught yet they have caused 10s of thousands of pounds of damage for a £20 component ,now if one of the thieves had died and say one resident had died what would your reaction be ,i wouldn't expect you to be laughing and joking but i wouldn't expect you to have sympathy in any shape or form

In short idiots like these deserve everything that happens to them ,and deserve no sympathy at all

peanut 03-05-2010 19:59
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013216)
And I stand by that. No one should ever revel in the death of another human being.
Can you explain why no one should 'revel' or call it 'justification' etc, why do you care so much to feel this way? Why do you care if some idiot/criminal or whatever dies because of their own actions, why does it bother you so much?

Peter_ 03-05-2010 20:28
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Once again we have morons dicing with death and almost causing a major incident involving 71 houses full of innocent people, the difference is that this time the *******s got away without injury but the victims could have been killed.:mad:

Something very similar could have happened when the original moron who is the main subject of this thread cut a 30,000 volt cable and was duly electrocuted and should have been put up for a Darwin Award for his sheer stupidity.

Idiots like this do not deserve our pity and if in the act of theft they manage to injure or kill themselves then so be it.

Flyboy 03-05-2010 21:26
Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35013299)
not at all FB i am glad he died instead of someone else makes perfect sense to normal right minded people
Now if you read the link provided by Derek you will note that there were 71 callouts for the fire brigade as people reported homes filling with smoke ,even a baby monitor catching fire and setting fire to a cot ,the thieves have not as yet been caught yet they have caused 10s of thousands of pounds of damage for a £20 component ,now if one of the thieves had died and say one resident had died what would your reaction be ,i wouldn't expect you to be laughing and joking but i wouldn't expect you to have sympathy in any shape or form

In short idiots like these deserve everything that happens to them ,and deserve no sympathy at all
First of all the two incidents are totally unconnected. Secondly, the subject of this thread did not die in place of anyone else. "Normal, right minded" people do not celebrate the tragic death of anyone. I can't see how you could ever consider that any "normal, right minded person" could ever feel such things. Your evaluation of what is "right minded and normal," is very disturbing.

I have sympathy for all deaths, it is call human compassion, something which is seriously lacking on these boards at times.

Derek 03-05-2010 21:27
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013462)
"Normal, right minded" people do not celebrate the tragic death of anyone.
Celebrate no. Extract the urine and have a good laugh about someone elses extreme stupidity yes.

Flyboy 03-05-2010 21:28
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Originally Posted by peanut (Post 35013324)
Can you explain why no one should 'revel' or call it 'justification' etc, why do you care so much to feel this way? Why do you care if some idiot/criminal or whatever dies because of their own actions, why does it bother you so much?
As I said, it is called human compassion; try having some.

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Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 35013466)
Celebrate no. Extract the urine and have a good laugh about someone elses extreme stupidity yes.
No, that is neither normal, nor is it right minded.

Derek 03-05-2010 21:30
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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013467)
No, that is neither normal, nor is it right minded.
Fair enough. I'll keep that in mind the next time someone tells me a joke thats a bit off-colour. I'll tell them that they aren't normal and they should be ashamed of themselves.

Then I'll get on a plane, fly to the US and assasinate the people behind the darwin awards seeing they are obviously sick in the head as well. :rolleyes:

Peter_ 03-05-2010 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013467)
As I said, it is called human compassion; try having some.

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No, that is neither normal, nor is it right minded.
He could have killed or injured innocent people so I feel no compassion for someone with such crass stupidity who could believe for one second that it was a safe place to steal copper cabling from.

I would feel more compassion for the 71 households that the other 2 *******s could have killed or injured.

martyh 03-05-2010 21:41
Re: Some shocking news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013462)
First of all the two incidents are totally connected. Secondly, the subject of this thread did not die in place of anyone else. "Normal, right minded" people do not celebrate the tragic death of anyone. I can't see how you could ever consider that any "normal, right minded person" could ever feel such things. Your evaluation of what is "right minded and normal," is very disturbing.

I have sympathy for all deaths, it is call human compassion, something which is seriously lacking on these boards at times.

firstly the incidents are only connected in that idiots tried to steal copper from a substation

secondly i did not say that someone had died in the second incident merely asked how you would feel toward the thief if someone innocent had died (note you did not answer)

thirdly the death of the thief in the original theft was not tragic it was bought about by his own stupidity ,greed and selfishness

speedfreak 03-05-2010 21:49
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I thought we had sort of agreed to disagree several pages back? Or was everyone just taking a break? :)

Ramrod 03-05-2010 21:51
Re: Some shocking news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013216)
And I stand by that. No one should ever revel in the death of another human being.
Not sure about that, what about Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot? Bin Laden?

Ignitionnet 03-05-2010 21:57
Re: Some shocking news
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35013467)
As I said, it is called human compassion; try having some.

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No, that is neither normal, nor is it right minded.
Preach on, Reverend, preach on.

Flyboy 03-05-2010 22:09
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35013503)
Not sure about that, what about Hitler, Stalin or Pol Pot? Bin Laden?
I don't understand the comparison. Has this person committed genocide? That said, why should I still delight in the deaths of these people? They are human beings after all.

Lord Nikon 03-05-2010 22:21
Re: Some shocking news
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35013486)
firstly the incidents are only connected in that idiots tried to steal copper from a substation

secondly i did not say that someone had died in the second incident merely asked how you would feel toward the thief if someone innocent had died (note you did not answer)

thirdly the death of the thief in the original theft was not tragic it was bought about by his own stupidity ,greed and selfishness
Just as a matter of interest, how much connectivity would you want between incidents? It could hardly be the same individual, he got flame grilled at the first substation.


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