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No, that normallly comes with common sense.

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Law

Common Sense

Not often seen together (imho)

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http://coppersblog.blogspot.com/2008...ild-guess.html

:rolleyes:

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Wouldn't sending flowers and chocolates to the WPC come under bribing/influcing a witness?

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If the law made sense there would be a lot less profit in it for lawyers.

:dozey:

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Soooo true!!! :D

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:shrug:

The Police don't count in these matters. Police assaults/resist arrests are the first charges to get dropped in the hunt for a plea bargain.

Does seem to destroy the myth that alcohol and drugs are aggravating factors in sentencing though. Or maybe being coked up and drunk enough to have no recollection of the night before isn't classed as consuming enough to be a factor.

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Black youths being left to die.
Politicians are leaving black youths to die" by cutting funding to community groups, an independent adviser to the Home Office has said.

Dr Campbell told the BBC that funds earmarked for community cohesion were not going to thr right organisations.

I agree with this, about time someone told the truth.

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The only slight problem is that it isn't the truth.

Sometimes you can't fix a problem by just throwing money at it.

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There has been a lot of spending on non-white groups for decades, just look at all the <insert name of non-white group here> centres. The killings arise from groups getting together, so how is giving them lots more money to enable groups to get together on the basis of race going to help.

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Well they're really getting tough now - this time it's 'community crimefighters' :rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7627746.stm

Apparently Brown said "tough policing, tough penalties and united communities" were needed to keep crime down. blah.. blah... blah...

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Do they get to wear their underpants on the outside? :D

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Hmmmm, volunteers who help the Police without being paid? Thats a good idea, in fact it's so good I'm sure there might already be something like it going on. Lets just have a look at a special constabulary website.

And I'd be willing to bet a decently trained and motivated special would be 100X more effective than a secret army of trained curtain twitchers, which as its a new Labour scheme will never work anyway, will be hugely overbudget and once a few of the more glaring flaws are pointed out will be quietly shelved never to be heard of again.

Still they could use the money instead to stop rioters being too cold. :rolleyes:

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You big cynic Derek :D

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Running off the link in Derek's post, this is brilliant: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-policing.html