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Jon T 28-09-2008 14:49

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
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Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 34644080)
And Ferrari get a gold medal for the 100M sprint down the pit lane!!!!

For those not watching this please watch it later :D

Hilarious!

I wonder how the FIA are going to put the blame on McLaren for this!

Raistlin 28-09-2008 14:51

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
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Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34644083)
Hilarious!

I wonder how the FIA are going to put the blame on McLaren for this!

I'm sure McLaren were there at the time, therefore it must be their fault. I'm guessing Hamilton will have to give back any places that he gained as a result of the incident.....

shawty 28-09-2008 15:02

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F1 is getting ridiculous. Ferrari have a poo system of releasing their cars from the pit lane, which results in fuel hose still attached to the car, fire could errupt anywhere, knocking down team mates in the process, while getting released into the path of another car. They get a drive through penelty. Someone crashes which causes a safety car which in turn closes the pin lane and people get a stop go penalty for having to refuel while its closed, through no fault of their own.

Seriously how is this fair. Sort it out FIA.

The red of that Ferrari looks gorgeous under lights.

homealone 28-09-2008 21:00

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I was quite relieved when Massa was penalised for the 'unsafe release', although it is a shame for him, personally, as he didn't do anything wrong. It could have been a lot worse if Sutil hadn't managed to avoid him..

I also agree with the poster who questioned the penalty for an unsafe action being more lenient than refuelling while the pits were closed due to the safety car....

I've seen a couple of comments about Alonso which gave food for thought - one that he cut a chicane at the start & gained an advantage & another which suggested Piquet drove into the wall at just the right time because he was following team orders ... :LOL:

I thought the track was a disgrace, though - notwithstanding the bumps & dodgy kerbs, do we really need yet another circuit on which it is so difficult to overtake?

Hom3r 28-09-2008 21:21

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
I wet myself laughing over that (not at the crew injury thou) and Kimis oops as well.

Best of all McLaren lead both titles.

dev 28-09-2008 21:28

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
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Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34644235)
I was quite relieved when Massa was penalised for the 'unsafe release', although it is a shame for him, personally, as he didn't do anything wrong. It could have been a lot worse if Sutil hadn't managed to avoid him..

not only that, but imagine if this race was where there was a few pit lane fires due to the heat of the cars, and sutil was a tenth of two further down the pit lane, right in the firing line of the fuel that was thrown out the other end of the hose

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Originally Posted by homealone (Post 34644235)
I also agree with the poster who questioned the penalty for an unsafe action being more lenient than refuelling while the pits were closed due to the safety car....

i think the thinking behind a stop-go penalty for pitting when it is closed is because you gain a free pit stop so you are then forced to take another "pit stop" which last around 10s.

homealone 28-09-2008 21:40

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
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Originally Posted by dev (Post 34644248)
not only that, but imagine if this race was where there was a few pit lane fires due to the heat of the cars, and sutil was a tenth of two further down the pit lane, right in the firing line of the fuel that was thrown out the other end of the hose

I did think that at the time, although to be fair the design of the fuelling rig minimised the amount of fuel that was spilled.


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Originally Posted by dev
i think the thinking behind a stop-go penalty for pitting when it is closed is because you gain a free pit stop so you are then forced to take another "pit stop" which last around 10s.

Good point, however I'd have thought that under the safety car that advantage isn't so great if it leads them round for more than only a few laps - and is much less than the effect of a 'stop and go' when everyone else is at full racing speed?

I think they need to look at changing this aspect of the rules, personally :)

Shadow Demon UK 29-09-2008 14:27

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Does anyone else think that if there wasn't that crash which caused Ferrari to mess up it would have been a very, very boring race. There was probably just one place that you could get close enough to overtake without causing an accident. Whats the point in having a race at all if thats the case? I bet the orgainsers were very relieved when there was that crash as if that didn't happen nothing would have happened. If this new track is a sign of things to come F1 is going to become extremely boring.

Kymmy 29-09-2008 15:39

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That's the major problem with street circuits, too narrow with too many unforgiving walls to attempt a risky overtake that might just see you run a bit wide on other tracks...

But the risks of the crash does add another dimension to the season and there nothing like a street circuit in the rain ;)

mr_bo 30-09-2008 23:30

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34644242)
Best of all McLaren lead both titles.

+1 :tu:

Hom3r 30-09-2008 23:39

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Ferrari boss more mad at the track, than the cock up in the pits!! What a pratt

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7644042.stm

homealone 01-10-2008 00:29

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34645386)
Ferrari boss more mad at the track, than the cock up in the pits!! What a pratt

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7644042.stm

While I agree he is trying to divert attention away from their cock up in the pits, I totally agree with his comments about the track, it is too narrow, too bumpy & too difficult to overtake....

demented 01-10-2008 00:36

Re: Formula 1 2008 Season
 
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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34645386)
Ferrari boss more mad at the track, than the cock up in the pits!! What a pratt

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7644042.stm

:nutter:

It's a street track, wtf do they expect! Only complaint I had was the pq was a bit on the poor side even for ITV. I agree with Ron that it probably will rain with potential sillies in the last 3 races.

homealone 01-10-2008 00:43

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Originally Posted by demented (Post 34645411)
:nutter:

It's a street track, wtf do they expect! Only complaint I had was the pq was a bit on the poor side even for ITV. I agree with Ron that it probably will rain with potential sillies in the last 3 races.

in which case imo there are too many 'street' tracks on the calendar - it is motor racing, shouldn't it happen on a motor racing circuit???

demented 01-10-2008 01:05

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I don't have a problem with them. Imho there are far too many modern dull circuits like magny cours, the crippled nurburgring, istanbul, bahrain etc etc.

If it were me I'd bring back Long Beach! CART and other disciplines have a mix of streetish circuits and F1 has in the past. We're just getting spoilt silly by these dull circuits :shocked:!


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