Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

No, because as the ASH site points out, the tax revenue from smoking is not some sort of investment in the NHS!

Just like the revenue from speed cameras, VED etc, it's not earmarked for some specific purpose, it goes into Gordon Brown's big pot and is doled out as he sees fit.

To suggest that, because smokers die younger, it is some sort of *positive* is, I'm sure, a great consolation to those whose family members have died of cancer (especially those who got it from passive smoking)

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

Damn right! I've *earned* this cancer/ athsma/ emphysema...! :rolleyes:

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

In which case I suggest you keep records of the disturbances and contact your local council's Environmental Health department who can install a sound monitor (as, I believe, has been detailed in another thread around these parts recently).

If they keep doing it they can be served with an Anti-Social Behaviour Order and these *are* now being enforced.

Thank you.

Please cite me *ANYWHERE* where I have said I would do this! If you can't, please apologise for completely mis-representing my position.

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

Well, yes, it was cancer Graham. But not smoking related. It was in my womb. I actually had private treatment because the waiting list was too long but....

I pay NI every month. Plus the tax from cigarettes, I'm just as entitled to NHS services as anyone else, regardless of what ailment it is. And a big :upyours: to anyone who thinks differently. :)

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

It's hardly our fault that the revenue from tobacco sales is not portioned off to the NHS. Perhaps people like you should be greatful that the extra taxes WE pay are covering things that you'd have to pay extra for if we didn't smoke.

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

My point was that, as you said below, *EVERYONE* who is a UK citizen has the right to health treatment that is free at the point of delivery, whether they're a smoker or not.

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

:clap:

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No, your point was a very sarcastic post. :rolleyes:

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

Why not? You have the right to contact your MP and suggest things change, this is a democratic right. If enough people agree with you, maybe the government will take notice.

The Lib Dems have been talking frequently about the idea of increasing income tax by 1p and ring-fencing that for education, so the concept isn't exactly new.

Damn! Yes, of course!! Why didn't I think of that before?

Hey, tell you what, I'll go around telling everyone to smoke up because they're saving me from having more taxes! And, of course, I'll be really glad that they're going to die young because that means more NHS resources for ME! :rolleyes:

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

Yes, I don't deny that in the slightest. The point remains, though.

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

Yes, of course, I'll write to them tomorrow and tell them that I insist that my taxes I pay on tobacco be used ONLY for the NHS, because that will work won't it, I don't know about you, but I've got better things to be doing with my life than writing pointless letters to MP's, perhaps you haven't.

Ah sarcasm, the lowest form of wit, it's a good job you don't have to pay any form of tax on that rolleyes emoticon.

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

Well you obviously don't vote either, because that's *even more* pointless than writing a letter to your MP...!

Translation: Damn, I can't think of a snappy comeback... :rofl:

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

Actually I do vote, and so far it's done me some good.



Actual Translation: I didn't and don't consider you worth the miniscule amount of time it'd take to think one up. (and btw, laughing at your own unamusing comments is a bit pathetic)

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

I don't follow, are you suggesting that smokers should be denied nhs treatment?

Re: Smoking in public places to be banned
 

I have allways believed that people have the right to do what they want. People should have the right to smoke and non smokers should not have to breath it in. Plenty of places now have smoking and no smoking sections and it seems to work o.k.

I can remember when they tried to ban smoking in all bars ect in france - It lasted about a week :D

As for the tax thing, Smokers pay very heavy taxes - more so than people who drink all the time - Both can be as damaging to your health as each other !