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Martyn 07-06-2006 00:58
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
TN23 area hmm did a few tests

Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:57:11 GMT

1st 512K took 2688 ms = 190.5 KB/sec, approx 1570 Kbps, 1.53 Mbps
2nd 512K took 984 ms = 520.3 KB/sec, approx 4287 Kbps, 4.19 Mbps
3rd 512K took 516 ms = 992.2 KB/sec, approx 8176 Kbps, 7.98 Mbps
4th 512K took 1000 ms = 512 KB/sec, approx 4219 Kbps, 4.12 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4563 Kbps, 4.46 Mbps

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Tue, 06 Jun 2006 23:58:35 GMT

1st 512K took 2094 ms = 244.5 KB/sec, approx 2015 Kbps, 1.97 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
3rd 512K took 485 ms = 1055.7 KB/sec, approx 8699 Kbps, 8.5 Mbps
4th 512K took 1609 ms = 318.2 KB/sec, approx 2622 Kbps, 2.56 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 4313 Kbps, 4.21 Mbps
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bilal 07-06-2006 01:10
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Pace STB users still on the 1Mb but paying £24.99, should of been sent a letter some time ago inviting them to arrange a STB swap out so they can surf at 2Mb.

Re: 2Mb STB users waiting to go to 4Mb, no information has been officially confirmed to us on this. But if it helps I will contact ntl tomorrow and seek some form of clarification on this matter. I will get back to you on this as and when I get a response back. :)
Could you ask about ntl 120 and 100 modems and if they will get update by the end of June as well please :) because the word near future sounded quite far away to me?

zx128k 07-06-2006 05:53
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Operation Configuration
Network Access : Allowed Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 4096000 Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 400000 Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 1600 Modem Capability : Concatenation Enabled, Fragmentation Disabled, PHS Disabled Maximum Number of CPEs : 1Belfast seems to have updated to 4Mb.

Broadband Speed Test Results

Results from broadband speed test recorded on Wednesday, 07 June 2006, 05:51.
Your Connection

Speed Test Results
Downstream 3,830.0 Kbps ( = 3.7 Mbps ) Upstream 376.4 Kbps ( = 0.4 Mbps ) :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

tubbles 07-06-2006 10:17
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Heres my speed test
Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:11:10 GMT

1st 512K took 2219 ms = 230.7 KB/sec, approx 1901 Kbps, 1.86 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2187 ms = 234.1 KB/sec, approx 1929 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2188 ms = 234 KB/sec, approx 1928 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
4th 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1925 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps

To repeat this test from the source server click here.

It is a very good 2mb connection so i suppose i can't complain really,
but hey not many people sing the praises of ntl do they. ;)

I am on merseyside so, how do i tell which area my computer is connected to?
Sorry for the noob question.

orangebird 07-06-2006 10:30
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sp3ctre
Yeah, just ask "Kevin, from Bombay" (why do they insist on pretending to be English???) :dozey:
They don't, but an awful lot of customers seem to have terrible problems just understanding what they're saying with their indian accents. What's the point in confusing the customer even more with foreign first names? I think it's just a move to make things a little easier for the customer. :shrug:

BrightonJohn 07-06-2006 10:32
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Pace STB users still on the 1Mb but paying £24.99, should of been sent a letter some time ago inviting them to arrange a STB swap out so they can surf at 2Mb.

Re: 2Mb STB users waiting to go to 4Mb, no information has been officially confirmed to us on this. But if it helps I will contact ntl tomorrow and seek some form of clarification on this matter. I will get back to you on this as and when I get a response back. :)
Many thanks for this!:dunce:

tubbles 07-06-2006 10:41
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Are there any Belfast/Swansea or Ashford broadband people using set top boxes on 4mb yet or are they all using cable modems? If anyone reading this tells us they are on a STB we will all know for sure that they are getting it in line with modem users. But, until then we are all depending on you Mick (no pressure):mad: Lol

zx128k 07-06-2006 10:50
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Sorry m8 using a cable modem here.

Mick 07-06-2006 12:25
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Re: 2Mb STB users waiting to go to 4Mb, no information has been officially confirmed to us on this. But if it helps I will contact ntl tomorrow and seek some form of clarification on this matter. I will get back to you on this as and when I get a response back. :)
ntl have Responded back to my query:-

ntl state:

"We are continuing to complete our broadband speed increases for customers. We are planning to uplift customer with STBs over the coming weeks and will advise customers of the impending changes. We will automatically upgrade customers with a Samsung STB and will advise customers with a Pace STB of the process to swap equipment."

mikeybrass 07-06-2006 12:35
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Can someone please remind me how to check whether I have been upgraded from 2 to 4MB please :dozey: It's a 250 modem.

Mike

Strange_Visitor 07-06-2006 12:36
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
ntl have Responded back to my query:-

ntl state:

"We are continuing to complete our broadband speed increases for customers. We are planning to uplift customer with STBs over the coming weeks and will advise customers of the impending changes. We will automatically upgrade customers with a Samsung STB and will advise customers with a Pace STB of the process to swap equipment."
Thanks for finding that out Mick. Puts my mind at rest. The engineer who installed my Samsung 2110c a couple of weeks ago, did say it would be upgraded automatically this month, but it's nice to see confirmation of that.

chrisjones 07-06-2006 12:54
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeybrass
Can someone please remind me how to check whether I have been upgraded from 2 to 4MB please :dozey: It's a 250 modem.

Mike
Hit the speed test tab at the top of this page (in the darker blue bar next to 'connection and 'Reported Posts').

If it says anything around 1.8x and 1.9X your on 2mb (those figures might be higher lower, but only by a small amount)

I get:

Wed, 07 Jun 2006 11:55:19 GMT

1st 512K took 2203 ms = 232.4 KB/sec, approx 1915 Kbps, 1.87 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2157 ms = 237.4 KB/sec, approx 1956 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
4th 512K took 2171 ms = 235.8 KB/sec, approx 1943 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1943 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

jtwn 07-06-2006 13:54
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
I made no warranty or otherwise of their fitness for any purpose, I just said that they were built as cheaply as possible and that the Terayon and CMX are of a higher quality, as you'd expect considering the Terayon retailed at £170.

Your need to points score with me is getting a bit weird, you seem to feel the need to comment or try and correct me at every possible occasion, which is a bit freaky. If you really want to prove your leetness with cable get a job with a cable company or contractor and get paid for it.

Finding holes in what a relative beginner like me says about the stuff doesn't really impress.
Dunno what you are blabbing on about. Every occasion? I don't think I've replied to every 370 or whatever occasions trying to correct you, maybe you are the paranoid one? You implied that the 100 and 120 weren't quality modems, I stated my view, and you replied back asking me a question.

Mick 07-06-2006 14:38
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Can you two stop being personal in threads please. Thanks.

ikthius 07-06-2006 15:20
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I know I am blind, but still I can't see a reply about the NTLHome 100 & 120's configuration files being updated to handle the 4Mb speeds.

Will this happen with the speed increase before the end of the month?

ik

Mick 07-06-2006 15:46
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
I know I am blind, but still I can't see a reply about the NTLHome 100 & 120's configuration files being updated to handle the 4Mb speeds.
Sorry, who was you expecting a reply from?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
Will this happen with the speed increase before the end of the month?

ik
It said in the news article that ntl plan to do them in the near future. There is no new information as to when exactly this is.

Kliro 07-06-2006 15:57
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Cheers for checking up on that Mick - but when it says automatically that still means the STB'll need a reboot doesn't it?

ikthius 07-06-2006 16:20
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Sorry, who was you expecting a reply from?
Anyone in the know more than me!
like you (or someone from the admin side) asked NTL certain questions, this is one that certain customers need to know.

so it may be months before I get this speed upgrade, after all I have been with NTL for about 10 years now as a customer and about 7 years with their internet, so I think it is only fair that they upgrade people like me at the same time, after all I have paid a lot of money to NTL, but not treated as a valued customer!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
It said in the news article that ntl plan to do them in the near future. There is no new information as to when exactly this is.
well this is just not a fair system then is it, let their customers know (however) that they are implementing a speed increase but certain people will not get it cause they are not fixing up modems in time for it.

I would think that they would have upgraded the modems configuration files before upgrading the speeds so that all of their customers can beneift from the speed increase.

do you see my point now mick?

ik

Mick 07-06-2006 17:18
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
Anyone in the know more than me!
like you (or someone from the admin side) asked NTL certain questions, this is one that certain customers need to know.



so it may be months before I get this speed upgrade, after all I have been with NTL for about 10 years now as a customer and about 7 years with their internet, so I think it is only fair that they upgrade people like me at the same time, after all I have paid a lot of money to NTL, but not treated as a valued customer!



well this is just not a fair system then is it, let their customers know (however) that they are implementing a speed increase but certain people will not get it cause they are not fixing up modems in time for it.

I would think that they would have upgraded the modems configuration files before upgrading the speeds so that all of their customers can beneift from the speed increase.

do you see my point now mick?

ik
Why are you having a go at me?

I do not work for ntl - I am just the messenger. But I tell you what - you contact ntl next time please if you want the answers your looking for.

ikthius 07-06-2006 17:20
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
Anyone in the know more than me!
like you (or someone from the admin side) asked NTL certain questions, this is one that certain customers need to know.



so it may be months before I get this speed upgrade, after all I have been with NTL for about 10 years now as a customer and about 7 years with their internet, so I think it is only fair that they upgrade people like me at the same time, after all I have paid a lot of money to NTL, but not treated as a valued customer!



well this is just not a fair system then is it, let their customers know (however) that they are implementing a speed increase but certain people will not get it cause they are not fixing up modems in time for it.

I would think that they would have upgraded the modems configuration files before upgrading the speeds so that all of their customers can beneift from the speed increase.

do you see my point now mick?

ik
Why are you having a go at me?

I do not work for ntl - I am just the messenger. But I tell you what - you contact ntl next time please if you want the answers your looking for.
I was not having a go.......

you may think that, but that is up to you.

ik

MickyD 07-06-2006 17:26
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Hey Mick, thanks for the info on the STB's. :tu:

Griffin 07-06-2006 18:09
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I would like to know why NTL should find there is a problem with the 120 modems & the 4mb upgrade when my one worked perfectly on the 10mb speed. Or could it be more to the point of a greater proportion of users have the 120 & 100 modems & its a smoke screen to cover network problems that will arise from the 4mb upgrade?

johnnygal 07-06-2006 18:09
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Cheers Mick. Thanks for the quick response.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
ntl have Responded back to my query:-

ntl state:

"We are continuing to complete our broadband speed increases for customers. We are planning to uplift customer with STBs over the coming weeks and will advise customers of the impending changes. We will automatically upgrade customers with a Samsung STB and will advise customers with a Pace STB of the process to swap equipment."

turbulentone 07-06-2006 18:19
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
I was not having a go.......

you may think that, but that is up to you.

ik

The communication is clear, its a rolling migration that will take until the end of June. It doesn't say anywhere that the 100's and 120's will be excluded.

bilal 07-06-2006 18:49
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
The communication is clear, its a rolling migration that will take until the end of June. It doesn't say anywhere that the 100's and 120's will be excluded.
I hope your right. The thing is I just dont like the way it says "near future"... would it not have been easier to say by the end of June rather than saying near future which could be whenever.

tooney1 07-06-2006 18:52
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilal
I hope your right. The thing is I just dont like the way it says "near future"... would it not have been easier to say by the end of June rather than saying near future which could be whenever.
Does anyone know when the upgrades are happing in the solent region??;)

bilal 07-06-2006 19:30
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tooney1
Does anyone know when the upgrades are happing in the solent region??;)
Quote:
If you are outside of the three areas above, the configuration files are yet to be deployed but will be done by the end of June.
Thats quite specific... "end of June"

Quote:
In addition, we also need to upgrade the configuration files of ntlHome 100 & ntlHome 120 modems, which we plan to do in the near future.
Is this quite specific? "plan to do in the near future" ... Maybe the ntlhome 100 and 120 modems are included in the June date, but maybe not.... I hope they are but dont like the way its worded :(

astra_lestat 07-06-2006 19:59
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Wed, 7 Jun 2006 18:58:24 UTC

1st 512K took 2860 ms = 179 KB/sec, approx 1475 Kbps, 1.44 Mbps
2nd 512K took 3156 ms = 162.2 KB/sec, approx 1337 Kbps, 1.31 Mbps
3rd 512K took 3047 ms = 168 KB/sec, approx 1384 Kbps, 1.35 Mbps
4th 512K took 3156 ms = 162.2 KB/sec, approx 1337 Kbps, 1.31 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1383 Kbps, 1.35 Mbps

Bedford. ntl 120

KingRoLo 07-06-2006 20:36
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
do i need to turn my modem on and off again to see the upgrade in effect?

turbulentone 07-06-2006 20:48
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bilal
Thats quite specific... "end of June"


Is this quite specific? "plan to do in the near future" ... Maybe the ntlhome 100 and 120 modems are included in the June date, but maybe not.... I hope they are but dont like the way its worded :(

They are included

ikthius 07-06-2006 21:01
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
I was not having a go.......

you may think that, but that is up to you.

ik
The communication is clear, its a rolling migration that will take until the end of June. It doesn't say anywhere that the 100's and 120's will be excluded.
I don't know why you quoted this from me about the communication being clear, as this quote has nothing to do with what I said earlier......

And the communication is not clear, it all depends on how your reading it, hence why some people are finding it difficult why NTL used near future when they could have said by the end of june.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bilal
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
The communication is clear, its a rolling migration that will take until the end of June. It doesn't say anywhere that the 100's and 120's will be excluded.
I hope your right. The thing is I just dont like the way it says "near future"... would it not have been easier to say by the end of June rather than saying near future which could be whenever.
as from my post before this quote, this is not helping other people read it corectly

I bolded your comment to highlight something of a grey area....... yes they will not be excluded, but it still does not say that they will be co,pleted by the end of june, does it?

this is what I was trying to get clarification on, thats all.

God I wish I never asked now.

but this forum did pride itself on helping people with NTL and Telewest questions, when I first started here, but now I am not so sure......



ik

mikeybrass 07-06-2006 21:08
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Apologies, but can someone tell me what the username and password is for NTL's 250 modem?

Cobbydaler 07-06-2006 21:17
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
We are planning to uplift customers with STBs over the coming weeks
Quote:
And the communication is not clear, it all depends on how your reading it, hence why some people are finding it difficult why NTL used near future when they could have said by the end of june.
Exactly... They are both imprecise, why not say by the end of June rather than 'in the near future' & 'over the coming weeks'?

It's no wonder people are suspicious of NTL's intentions when they use weasel words...

turbulentone 07-06-2006 21:55
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Its not weasel words, just some people looking into things a bit to deeply and putting 2 & 2 together and making 5.

Retrovertigo 07-06-2006 22:24
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Here's a question. On 10meg I only ever got around 3-4 meg speed at best. I switched down to 2meg (in the thinking it was already 4meg) and now get around 1meg download speed. I am going to end up with roughly 2 meg when 4meg is introduced where I live?

It seems crazy as I would have expected that by switching down from 10 meg to 4meg, that I'd still get the 4meg I was getting while on 10meg. Does that make sense? But it seems that proportionally I am getting 50% of what the supposed speed is no matter what tier I am on.

Can that be right?

ikthius 07-06-2006 23:30
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius

but this forum did pride itself on helping people with NTL and Telewest questions, when I first started here, but now I am not so sure......
Your question has already been answered... That is 'near future' this answer won't change when I contact ntl to ask them when I was only given the original statement a day or two earlier.

And we still pride on helping folk if you don't mind so there is no need for you to be unsure.
yes that answer will not change, as you have pointed out, but I was only seeking clarification, after all I am also here for help and information, you as a team member should know that.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick
What didn't impress me today was seeing you say things like:-

Quote:
I know I am blind, but still I can't see a reply
Totally unnecessary IMO.
very necessary I find, as there was not a reply to what I specifically asked, after all some other people also asked the same thing without much reply.

I still believe in my comments about the pride of the site. your replys to my posts give me this belief. (sorry but they just did, sorry if this offends you)

I find your comment about impressing you seems so much like a parent showing disgust to a child, I am sorry but I could not care less how impressed you were...... I was trying to get some info, which eventually I did get some sort of info.

I was surprised at the tone of your replys, but I never said anything about that, did I?

after reading back before posting this, I find that you looked into my posts deeper than I have. I never had a go at you (as said earlier), I was asking for the majority of the NTLHome 100 & 120 modem customers, which includes me, because there was not a straight enough answer for them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
Its not weasel words, just some people looking into things a bit to deeply and putting 2 & 2 together and making 5.
haha, that gave me a laugh.. thanks.

in the near future is not an answer, it is something you tell your girlfriend to put off getting hitched, but she will be looking for a reall answer (sorry this analogy was crap, but you get my drift).

ik

Mick 08-06-2006 00:24
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius

in the near future is not an answer

ik
It's an answer that ntl are only giving.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
I find your comment about impressing you seems so much like a parent showing disgust to a child, I am sorry but I could not care less how impressed you were...... I was trying to get some info, which eventually I did get some sort of info.
You would of got that same info by reading the news article from the other day. ;)

turbulentone 08-06-2006 00:35
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikthius
yes that answer will not change, as you have pointed out, but I was only seeking clarification, after all I am also here for help and information, you as a team member should know that.



very necessary I find, as there was not a reply to what I specifically asked, after all some other people also asked the same thing without much reply.

I still believe in my comments about the pride of the site. your replys to my posts give me this belief. (sorry but they just did, sorry if this offends you)

I find your comment about impressing you seems so much like a parent showing disgust to a child, I am sorry but I could not care less how impressed you were...... I was trying to get some info, which eventually I did get some sort of info.

I was surprised at the tone of your replys, but I never said anything about that, did I?

after reading back before posting this, I find that you looked into my posts deeper than I have. I never had a go at you (as said earlier), I was asking for the majority of the NTLHome 100 & 120 modem customers, which includes me, because there was not a straight enough answer for them.


haha, that gave me a laugh.. thanks.

in the near future is not an answer, it is something you tell your girlfriend to put off getting hitched, but she will be looking for a reall answer (sorry this analogy was crap, but you get my drift).

ik
Ah well, we can but wait and see...;)

Chrysalis 08-06-2006 01:31
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Retrovertigo
Here's a question. On 10meg I only ever got around 3-4 meg speed at best. I switched down to 2meg (in the thinking it was already 4meg) and now get around 1meg download speed. I am going to end up with roughly 2 meg when 4meg is introduced where I live?

It seems crazy as I would have expected that by switching down from 10 meg to 4meg, that I'd still get the 4meg I was getting while on 10meg. Does that make sense? But it seems that proportionally I am getting 50% of what the supposed speed is no matter what tier I am on.

Can that be right?
quite possibly yeah, I had that problem myself. Jan massive speed drop on 10meg so downgraded in feb to 2meg to find I only got 0.5meg to 1meg so reupgraded again to 10meg as I at least got 2-3 meg on that.

AndrewJ 08-06-2006 05:23
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Do I detect a hint of stress....


My 10mb is working nicely btw no problems. spot on :D

turbulentone 08-06-2006 06:55
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
any 2Mb 100's and 120's in Cardiff, Swansea and Belfast done a speed check so far today?

Code601 08-06-2006 09:49
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
any 2Mb 100's and 120's in Cardiff, Swansea and Belfast done a speed check so far today?
Yea matey nothing doing here so far,

Not to start the "WHAT DOES NEAR FUTURE??"?"?! MEAN" debate off again, but im hoping by near future they mean in a few days, im sure ntl aint holding it back just to annoy us. I think they will need to figure out the 100 and 120 files before they continue with the rollout.

I can imagine it now "bob down the road is on 4 meg but I aint, whats going on!!!"

cookie monster 08-06-2006 09:56
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
im a 120 and im pretty sure my internet from's Belfast i got..

2 megabits per second
Communications 2 megabits per second
Storage 240.5 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.3 seconds
Subjective rating Great

i rung NTL customer services yesterday and she explained that i had been upgraded to 4mb and that if i was still only getting 2mb ring techical support and so i did. the guy there explained that everyones account had been updated but they still need to update the servers to give the actual speed which will all be done by the end of june....

Graham M 08-06-2006 10:19
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cookie monster
im a 120 and im pretty sure my internet from's Belfast i got..

2 megabits per second
Communications 2 megabits per second
Storage 240.5 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.3 seconds
Subjective rating Great

i rung NTL customer services yesterday and she explained that i had been upgraded to 4mb and that if i was still only getting 2mb ring techical support and so i did. the guy there explained that everyones account had been updated but they still need to update the servers to give the actual speed which will all be done by the end of june....
Which is what's been said over and over and over... you get the idea. The email that most (or some) people got said BY THE END OF JUNE.

Oh and :welcome:

Code601 08-06-2006 10:51
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
My ntl 100 modem must have rebooted while i was downstairs, its 4MB Now!!! and on a diff firmware than before!

W00t!!!!

Network Access : Enabled Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 4096000 bps Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 400000 bps Maximum Number of CPEs : 1 Software Upgrade File Name : ntlhm100_ntl0001.cpr Software Upgrade AdminStatus : allowProvisioningUpgrade Software Upgrade OperStatus : completeFromProvisioning

DipsTheOne 08-06-2006 11:02
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I have 10meg line and all i get is 3034 down and 478 up erm 3meg wheres me 7meg gone

Albie 08-06-2006 11:11
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
My 120 modem just rebooted and the config files now show 4MB. Hooray! :hyper:

Web-Junkie 08-06-2006 11:12
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DipsTheOne
I have 10meg line and all i get is 3034 down and 478 up erm 3meg wheres me 7meg gone
This discussion is about the 4mb service not 10mb, best go kick NTL in the pants if you're not getting 10mb :D

turbulentone 08-06-2006 11:38
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albie
My 120 modem just rebooted and the config files now show 4MB. Hooray! :hyper:

Blinking ntl... 100's and 120's to be deployed in the near future and its done 2 days later. :angel:

cookie monster 08-06-2006 13:06
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
i think ive been upgarded as well after reaidng this i shut down pc rebooted modem and restarted on a speed test max ive got is 3.2mb but i tested a download of google earth and got speeds of 480kb/s:D

DigiDragon 08-06-2006 13:34
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Me too - my ntlhome 100 now shows 4 meg.

mcmanic 08-06-2006 14:43
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
anyone done a serious downlod test on NTL120 Home Modems, like say 6 connections to a newsgroup to get a max download to see if the firmware can hack it, don't wish for a repeat of the rebooting 003 10meg firmware under heavy activity

likewise 08-06-2006 15:12
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Just tried a newsgroup - speeds 430-500+ using Grabit - all connections.

Cardiff, 120 modem

Likewise

mcmanic 08-06-2006 15:57
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
looking good then, roll on Brighton area, lol

popper 08-06-2006 16:54
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Web-Junkie
This discussion is about the 4mb service not 10mb, best go kick NTL in the pants if you're not getting 10mb :D
Hmmm, 'Re: New Speeds - June 1st'
i dont see anything in that about limiting the thread to 4Mbit only talk.

is it official that the 10Mbit is staying at the 512Mbit (or is it 500Mbit)upload rate or did they officially increase it, inline with other changes, if so what to ?.

Druchii 08-06-2006 16:55
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by popper
Hmmm, 'Re: New Speeds - June 1st' i dont see anything in that about limiting the thread to 4Mbit only talk. is it official that the 10Mbit is staying at the 512Mbit (or is it 500Mbit)upload rate or did they officially increase it, inline with other changes, if so what to ?.
512kbit ;)

popper 08-06-2006 17:01
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Druchii
512kbit ;)
LOL yea those pesky M's and K's

etccarmageddon 08-06-2006 17:14
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
10meg has been rumoured to have plans to have the upload increased to 1meg. it hasn't happened.

Billys 08-06-2006 17:31
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Just logged on here in Swansea and the modem (ntl 120) now running at 4meg.

cookie_365 08-06-2006 17:51
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cookie monster
im a 120 and im pretty sure my internet from's Belfast i got..

2 megabits per second
Communications 2 megabits per second
Storage 240.5 kilobytes per second
1MB file download 4.3 seconds
Subjective rating Great

i rung NTL customer services yesterday and she explained that i had been upgraded to 4mb and that if i was still only getting 2mb ring techical support and so i did. the guy there explained that everyones account had been updated but they still need to update the servers to give the actual speed which will all be done by the end of june....
I've got me a stalker ;) Now I feel like a proper celebrity :)

Sharpy 08-06-2006 18:55
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:53:42 UTC

1st 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1094 ms = 468 KB/sec, approx 3856 Kbps, 3.77 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
4th 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 3900 Kbps, 3.81 Mbps

4mb working fine here on my sb4100 after a quick reboot in Lisburn, N.Ireland :)

DigiDragon 08-06-2006 19:31
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbulentone
any 2Mb 100's and 120's in Cardiff, Swansea and Belfast done a speed check so far today?
Cardiff ntlhome 100

Download:
1st 512K took 1093 ms = 468.4 KB/sec, approx 3860 Kbps, 3.77 Mbps
2nd 512K took 1063 ms = 481.7 KB/sec, approx 3969 Kbps, 3.88 Mbps
3rd 512K took 1094 ms = 468 KB/sec, approx 3856 Kbps, 3.77 Mbps
4th 512K took 1078 ms = 475 KB/sec, approx 3914 Kbps, 3.82 Mbps
Overall Average Speed = approx 3900 Kbps, 3.81 Mbps

Upload:
You uploaded 840,679 bytes in 17 seconds. Your upload speed is 396 kbps.

astra_lestat 08-06-2006 19:34
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Bedford. ntl 120.
Thu, 8 Jun 2006 18:33:57 UTC

1st 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2156 ms = 237.5 KB/sec, approx 1957 Kbps, 1.91 Mbps
4th 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1950 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

turbulentone 08-06-2006 19:36
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Your not in Cardiff, Swansea or Belfast so haven't been migrated yet

dragon 08-06-2006 19:50
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Druchii
512kbit ;)
But 512mbit would have been so much nicer. ;)

tubbles 08-06-2006 20:39
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I read Mick's answer about Set top boxes but was just wondering if any swansea or the upgraded areas have bin upgraded on STB's yet? I am on merseyside so still no upgrade yet :( but when the upgrades come around here, it would be nice to know if the stb's are getting sorted just a couple of days later. If this is the case then happy days but, if not, omg why me????

Fingy 08-06-2006 21:07
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Cardiff, Swansea and Belfast do not have broadband through set top boxes, they are stand alone only areas.

tubbles 08-06-2006 21:12
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Thanks fingy. This does not look good for us STB users then does it? I always wonder why certain areas get upgraded first and that shows why. I hope that this does not lead to troubles though. I believe that the Samsung STBs can go as fast as 6mb so it may not be a big prob for NTL.

I am in the merseyside area so does anyone know how i find out what NTL area that i am in? please don't say merseyside lol.

Nikko 08-06-2006 21:15
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I wish I was getting some of those speeds above - due to a power failure locally (See the Service Status Page) 10Mb in Nottingham currently looks like this:

Thu, 8 Jun 2006 19:44:32 UTC
1st 128K took 16984 ms = 7717 Bytes/sec = approx 64 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 40891 ms = 3205 Bytes/sec = approx 27 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 6141 ms = 21344 Bytes/sec = approx 178 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 17218 ms = 7612 Bytes/sec = approx 63 kbits/sec

Web-Junkie 08-06-2006 23:49
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
If the leccy's failed, what's powering the UBR's? Is there a peddle powered emergency generator in the exchange being peddled by a rather pee'd off engineer :)

bopdude 09-06-2006 00:01
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Web-Junkie
If the leccy's failed, what's powering the UBR's? Is there a peddle powered emergency generator in the exchange being peddled by a rather pee'd off engineer :)
If there were an engineer I think he would be pee'd up rather than off ;) :D

Stuart 09-06-2006 00:42
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Web-Junkie
If the leccy's failed, what's powering the UBR's? Is there a peddle powered emergency generator in the exchange being peddled by a rather pee'd off engineer :)
Simple, the UBRs are on a different power circuit. For instance, last time we had a power failiure at work, half of Greenwich lost it's power, and so did half the campus where I work. The other part was unaffected.

Web-Junkie 09-06-2006 01:29
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C
Simple, the UBRs are on a different power circuit. For instance, last time we had a power failiure at work, half of Greenwich lost it's power, and so did half the campus where I work. The other part was unaffected.
Not much good when the UBR's have power but your house nearby doesn't :D

Stuart 09-06-2006 01:36
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
You asked What's powering the UBRs.. I offered a possible solution. The same argument could apply to houses as well.

Web-Junkie 09-06-2006 01:50
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
It was a facetious comment, but point taken!

sp3ctre 09-06-2006 09:38
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Web-Junkie
It was a facetious comment, but point taken!
Well "I" saw the funny side ;)

... but I think we can be thankful for them staying up, as houses tend to recover from power failure a hell of a lot better than IT equipment :D

Swipe 09-06-2006 09:49
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
To save trawling through the whole of this thread i was wondering if anyone could answer me a quick query. I have just upgraded from 1Mb to 4Mb this morning (my BB goes through a Samsung SMT 2100C) but I'm only getting 2Mb. Does this mean my area has not yet been upgraded or do I need to call back? My area is Stoke-on-Trent.

Strange_Visitor 09-06-2006 09:53
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swipe
To save trawling through the whole of this thread i was wondering if anyone could answer me a quick query. I have just upgraded from 1Mb to 4Mb this morning (my BB goes through a Samsung SMT 2100C) but I'm only getting 2Mb. Does this mean my area has not yet been upgraded or do I need to call back? My area is Stoke-on-Trent.
I did the same upgrade to a Samsung 2110c 2 weeks ago, still getting 2MB. It just means the upgrade hasn't reached you yet. Should be by the end of the month.

SlackDad 09-06-2006 12:52
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange_Visitor
Should be by the end of the month.
It's only taken 878 posts to establish this little fact ;) :D

turbulentone 09-06-2006 13:07
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlackDad
It's only taken 878 posts to establish this little fact ;) :D

And will rise, just to make sure its by the end of the month

MagicMan 09-06-2006 13:14
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
So just to clarify - If I havent been upgraded yet does anybody know when I will be. :D

hurricane 09-06-2006 13:43
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
new from the server status page

The following work will be taking place during the week commencing Monday the 5th of June.

On the Morning of Sunday 11th June between midnight and 6am,

Essential server maintenance will result in a loss of Registration services.

The following work will be taking place during the week commencing Monday the 12th of June.

On the morning of Monday the 12th of June between midnight and 6 AM,

Essential server maintenance will result in a loss of Registration services.

On the morning of Tuesday the 13th of June between midnight and 6 AM,

Network upgrades will result in a loss of service in Grimsby, Ashford, Seven Kings, Oxford, Bolton, Bishops Stortford, Clifton, Basford, Stockton, Reading, Lichfield, Cardiff, Andover, Renfrew, Grimsby, Stapleford, Whitchurch, Neath, Leicester, Belfast, Kempstone, Sunderland, Hartlepool Darlington, Peterbrough, and the surrounding areas.

Essential server maintenance will result in a brief loss of Registration, Broadband Medic and Netguard update services.

Network rebalancing across the country will result in a brief loss of service for all customers.

On the morning of Wednesday the 14th of June between midnight and 6 AM,

Network optimisation will result in a loss of service in Scunthorpe, Ashford, Seven Kings, Lewisham and the surrounding areas.

On the morning of Thursday the 15th of June between midnight and 6 AM,

Network upgrades will result in a loss of service in Southampton, Swindon and the surrounding areas

James Henry 09-06-2006 13:59
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Those do not indicate when tier upgrades are happening. They are 'business as usual' notifications only, so those people in the areas being worked on shouldn't hold their breath ;)

sp3ctre 09-06-2006 14:30
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Indeed... I can confirm this because I have seen the status page so many times and this happens all the time... I'm 99% certain that this is not the upgrade, otherwise it would say so.

Somebody poated a statement from NTL about the first areas to be upgraded, but I am not sure where to look for the next statment of the next areas... any ideas anyone?

crowlord 09-06-2006 16:18
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
typical ntl: Peterbrough indeed. I want my missing o :P

popper 09-06-2006 16:29
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MagicMan
So just to clarify - If I havent been upgraded yet does anybody know when I will be. :D
the day before next month...:)

hurricane 09-06-2006 17:10
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
Those do not indicate when tier upgrades are happening. They are 'business as usual' notifications only, so those people in the areas being worked on shouldn't hold their breath ;)
oh really? thats a shame. i thought that's what happened with the cardiff and belfast ones though, it said on the status page?

chrisjones 09-06-2006 18:57
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Do you think theres any logic in the order NTL are executing the roll outs?

Thats not a trick question by the way, im just curious :-P

2||Para 09-06-2006 20:58
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
When will i get my 10mb ;)

Only kidding as i will probably drop to 4mb when its rolled out.Can no longer justify having 10mb line really,ok from a few sites you get good speeds but the average site only uploads to me at about 600kbps anyway.

I can live with 4mb.

jrhnewark 09-06-2006 23:49
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Looks like Nottingham might be some time next week then. Shame NTL's online tier migration doesn't work with my Ambit 200!

Graham M 10-06-2006 02:30
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrhnewark
Looks like Nottingham might be some time next week then. Shame NTL's online tier migration doesn't work with my Ambit 200!
But you're already on the 4meg tier?

jrhnewark 10-06-2006 02:48
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
But you're already on the 4meg tier?
"Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Nottinghamshire
Services: NTL Base Pack TV, DAB Digital Radio, 1Mbps NTL Broadband, Three WePay."

Ahem. ;) Nope - on 1Mbps, want to go up to 4Mbps (well, 400kbps up, actually..). :)

MFKR78 10-06-2006 11:38
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I was told two stories while on the phone the other day (surprise surprise) I was on the phone to retention firstly though so I guess that guy wouldn't be as in the know, he told me I should get 4mb now and he'd send a hit to my box (which promptly knocked off my connection completely)

I then had to call tech support for broadband and set about registering my PC again thanks to that. While talking to him I was told that I'd have 4mb by the end of the month as the work was ongoing throughout June. He made it sound like I'd definitely have to wait until the end of the month for it.

I'm getting only 1mb speed today again which is great seeing as I can't even get 2mb speeds.

etccarmageddon 10-06-2006 11:47
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I think the 4meg upgrade has happened round here as my upto 10 meg service is now offering 2-5meg when prior to this it was 6-8meg.

utter dross and I suspect proves the theory that 20:1 contention is not being maintained.

MFKR78 10-06-2006 12:32
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I can't think of a time when I've ever had speed that resembles 2mb. Of course I'm not going to complain about them upgrading it to 4 for no extra charge but I don't feel I've ever had the benefit of the speeds they advertise.

Chrysalis 10-06-2006 15:07
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
if you assume only 50 4mbit users on a ubr then 20:1 would need 10mbit, thats excluding what you need on top for 1meggers and 10meggers.

worked that out quickly so if I am wrong someone will correct me :)

MFKR78 10-06-2006 15:29
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Saying that now I'm monitoring my speeds and it's flying up and then down, I've had speeds today of more than I should at times here and there. Hmm

LemonyBrainAid 10-06-2006 15:35
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKR78
Saying that now I'm monitoring my speeds and it's flying up and then down, I've had speeds today of more than I should at times here and there. Hmm
Where are you from ?

MFKR78 10-06-2006 15:38
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
I'm in Manchester.

It's hard to tell now actually what's happening with speed. I'm a bit unsure.

Can anyone tell me the most accurate free speed test to try? I'll post my results once I've done it.

homealone 10-06-2006 16:01
Re: New Speeds - June 1st
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MFKR78
I'm in Manchester.

It's hard to tell now actually what's happening with speed. I'm a bit unsure.

Can anyone tell me the most accurate free speed test to try? I'll post my results once I've done it.
Dan Elwells test is pretty good

http://www.broadbandspeedtest.net/

as it checks speeds on a number of servers - the basic tests can be run free of charge once installed :)


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