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The Pop family of children’s channels is closing down on traditional TV platforms this December, marking the end of over two decades of broadcasting – and leaving the BBC as the sole provider of free-to-air linear children’s television in the UK. Pop, Tiny Pop and their associated services will cease broadcasting on Sky and Virgin Media, while the last remaining over-the-air channel on Freeview – Pop on Channel 205 – will switch to become a streaming-only FAST channel. The Pop Player app and website will also shut down completely across all platforms. |
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Just noticed that Pluto is no longer available on V6, with a message to contact VM for an upgrade - presumably to 360.
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Annoying, though.
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The MTV Fast channels are available to VM customers - except those who choose to stay on the old V6 software.
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I suspect that they are doing things like this as a stick approach to get people to use the new software as Pluto was only added last year! |
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360 is a big change and i understand people can be scared of big changes but it really is an impressive box with lots of advantages once you get used to it
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It’s a nice, uncluttered main menu as well. Everything is much easier to find. |
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i think most people think its dreadful because theyve seen a few screen shots and it look too different to what theyre used to. most people once they get it admit they were wrong
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I suppose it depends on whether one uses the missing V6 features or not. If you don't it may well be as good or even better. Many are resisting the change because of this. |
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From Richard’s perspective, it’s the ability to record radio shows that is missing, and I get that, but for most it just comes down to personal choices. For example, there are those who complain that the 360 doesn’t allow them to manage their series links, but why would they need to? Adding and taking off series links can be done on the 360, so I don’t see what else there is to manage! There are no ‘Suggestions’, some say, except that there are, and they are clear to see on the Home Screen as ‘Recommended for you’. The wishlist facility on the TiVo is useful for some, which flags up items on the search that become available at some time in the future, whereas the 360 allows you to do something similar, but only for programmes that are available now or coming soon. For most purposes and for most people the 360 serves all their needs and it is better than the Sky Q box in a number of ways, particularly ease of use. The TiVo technology is being phased out on VM now, and it is not offered elsewhere by the major players. TiVo itself has confirmed that it has stopped selling its DVR set-top boxes, so sooner or later, people are going to have to learn to cope without them unless they decide to purchase a TiVo TV. |
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Features lost include:-
Heck of a cheek to call it an upgrade. We know why they are doing it, to save themselves money with their own cheaper inferior software. |
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What are these "number of ways" its supposedly better ? |
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The 360 and SkyQ are equally as easy as each other to set up and each have their failings.
And both are a long way from matching the superior TiVo based software. |
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I'm surprised they went to the trouble & expense of introducing the 360 as it too is to be phased out to be replaced by a non recording streaming box
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Still programming listed on 10th December aswell.
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i think a lot of these "losses" most people will admit they never ever used and it has little to no impact on them compared to the sleek and faster 360 software
"No customisation options for the guide (like showing/hiding channel logos)." "No "Stop" button on the remote." i'd imagine very few people are upset about these. Just click tv and thats the stop button for example! You always lose your recordings when you change boxes like i did previously going from tivo to the v6. "Clunkier interface that often requires more button presses or using voice commands for simple tasks." thats just personal opinion too. once youve used the 360 for a few days you find it a lot quicker in fact. |
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There is one good plus of the 360 and the is the ability to use the USB powered Flex box anywhere in the home to access your recordings as well as live tv.
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On the first day of Christmas
Virgin didn't give to me a channel full of UHD. Is anyone else missing access to the UHD channel? According to the official press release, it should have been made available to all V6, 360 and Stream customers yesterday: https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...no-extra-cost/ |
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I've discovered by first annoyance with 360, although its actually to do with the TV Go app rather than the software on the box (which is running like a dream!).
I frequently use the remote recording functionality to set up recordings. It could be on a journey, sat in a waiting room, meeting friends or family when someone tells you about something you should watch. It's so handy. On the TV Control app you could browse the TV Guide for every channel in your package, and set up recordings. I hadn't realised the TV Go app doesn't let you do the same... I wanted to set something on Virgin TV Ultra HD to record, but I couldn't because it's not in the TV Guide. |
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Basically it depends on the value that people place on the missing features. For some, like myself, this is major, but others will only find it a little inconvenience and some not at all. Like I say, in time it won't matter as both boxes are to be replaced by a streaming only box, which isn't for me. If Sky discontinue Sky Q, then Freely or the Humax recordable box is what I'll move to. |
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Is there a deleted folder you can recover from yet?
I didn't see it on the list before and it had been missing since the start |
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No - it is all available via wifi and the channels are streamed.
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The satellites are around until at least 2029, and maybe a year or two after that if they are still functional. Plus, even after the satellites finally shut down, the boxes can still handle streaming channels, as they already do with all the sports+ stuff (and other apps on them). |
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In that case I wonder if, when they move to streaming only, Sky will bother to upgrade their Q customers to a dedicated streaming box? It would be great if it could be reconfigured to record streaming linear channels (I suspect that recording VOD content wouldn't be allowed due to rights issues). |
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Sky have been trying to get customers to switch to Stream for a long time - my main reason for not switching from SkyQ to Sky Stream is the high number of missing channels on Strean.
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Sky Sports+ has had a number of issues, plus occasional freezing. Plus, of course, it depends entirely on your internet actually working. Sky Stream (and most streaming) doesnt provide a local recording option. Also, for most people, multi room is reliant on your wifi working well, which it often doesnt. The one bad thing I found with Sky Q was the wifi to the minis dropped out too often, very unreliable. In the end I had a local contractor fit LAN cabling from my main router to the remote locations in my house. |
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I shall look into getting Freely or a Humax box as I like to record programmes. |
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Talking Pictures is one of the main ones https://www.sky.com/help/articles/tv...list-sky-glass |
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The rate things are going, we'll all be back to using a VCR
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http://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/tubi...irgin-media-tv . Tubi app added to VM boxes.... Yes even the V6. Lol
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In the UK there are about 30 channels on SkyQ which do NOT appear on Sky Stream.
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So a Humax box that will record Freely ? (whatever that is).
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For any Sky etc stuff I want I'll dip in and out of streaming services. |
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No date has been confirmed on the Humax freely recorder, the only freely box out now is Netgems version.
Humax haven't even named theirs yet nor said what os it'll be running. |
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The future isn"t streaming, Its what the customer wants and is prepared to pay for. The latest streaming Sky/VM boxes are aimed with advertisers in mind, not customers. However if they leave, so will the advertising revenue. |
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It runs on Android? i wonder how long it will be before someone cracks it, now that Amazon are locking-down Firesticks.
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There is a (unverified) rumour going round that forced migration is happening in January. If this is true, then I think I'll have to accept this (don't want to) until the end of my contract as their t&c's say that they reserve the right to change STB's. I don't personally think that this rumour is true as the usual procedure is to close the premium channels and then gradually reduce the basic channels before it is closed for good. |
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Thats why they are so keen to get the customers agreement to the 360 software downgrade. ("call it an ' upgrade' and the mugs will fall for it....") |
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Another forced migration rumour Richard. Is this rumour in the room with you now?
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VM stream is the one to watch still talk about it being available soon to any isp. |
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Or more likely not worth the investment to create it and add it to a box with a limited lifespan.
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According to this article, Tubi will also be on the V6 box. It may be it’s not yet rolled out to you so I’d keep checking. Maybe your box needs a re-boot. |
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Only app I use is iPlayer, and thats freely available elsewhere. |
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probably causes all those price rises and lack of new channels because some people can't accept change.... |
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https://community.virginmedia.com/di...eplies/5685868
VM aren't in a rush per this comment regardless of the rumours (which aren't really there) |
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I don’t think VM will ditch the TiVo boxes until their contract with TiVo expires.
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Exactly. From what I understand of their t&c's, they are free to force people to swap over and, if they won't, they can terminate their TV service. It's utter nonsense about those who don' t want to move to this inferior box causing price increases. Virgin will charge the maximum of what the market (or an individual) is prepared to pay regardless of any other costs. I am assuming that staff are incentivised to get people to change as there have been more reports that, upon recontracting, the 360 has never been mentioned and then one of it's remote controls is received in the post. If people ignore it and don't download the 360 software, after five days it's done automatically. Anyone affected by this sly/manipulative trick was advised to contact Virgin to get it cancelled. Mind you, saying that there are numerous reports that it's impossible to get through to a human to do so! |
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It's not about being scared, it's about replacing their STB's with something inferior. Lots think this, not just on this forum. If it works for you, that's great, but it wouldn't for many others. |
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Nobody knows the state of VMs contract with Tivo. Maybe they aren"t allowed to put on any new boxes, older boxes that have it are fine to continue till they die. Moral of the story if it ain't broke, don't 'upgrade' it.
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From Dec 13th CNBC will have a new owner and logo:
https://thedesk.net/2025/12/cnbc-new-logo-versant/ The name will be changed to stand for 'Consumer News & Business Channel'. |
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At least this issue will now be resolved :D |
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Two new FAST channels have launched from Stingray music; Classica and DJazz
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Then again the whole peacock thing didnt work out on sky. i'm not really sure what benefit comcast have got from buying sky so far as theyre running sky exactly like sky used to always be run?? |
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The NBC logo with the beak looking to our right (giving the impression of a missing bit) was introduced in 1986 and is not changing in that respect.
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Has anyone managed to get premier sports in their package when renewing or is there no wiggle room there? Just intrigued before I begin the inevitable back and forth
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The TiVo was never great at apps even in its prime, the V6 is more than capable with the mainstream ones. If you want access to every streaming app under-the-sun, then TV360 or Stream is an excellent choice. |
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Don't know, but the obligation on Comcast to fund the loss making Sky News ends soon (2026?) so it may happen then. |
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i wonder if they'd go with another attempt at NBC Sky World News which was cancelled back in 2020. I see its now branded as MS Now too but under a different company than comcast (or soon to be separated) so it may be a bit messy. Sky news has to change due to loss making i just dont know how it'll fit being separate from MS Now (formely MSNBC) unless they make it sky news world and use NBC News journalists (who are now apparently separate from MS Now) |
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Interesting SKY no longer offer the SKYQ via their website and are pushing stream instead, you can still phone for SKYQ though.
Wonder how long until VM start pushing down the stream route? Hence why i posted it here. Edit - OB no it doesn't mean linear tv is going to go away. |
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Freeview/ Freely and a recorder is looking like an excellent option. Particularly if VM/Sky aren't going to provide what customers want.
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While you can still do that with Sky Q, they are not actively promoting it anymore. |
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the likes of itv and the other tv channels hate recording shows because it means people can fast forward adverts. they'd probably be very happy to get rid of it and may well pay sky and virgin media alike to stop people being able to record 1) forced to watch adverts so advertisers may pay more. 2) if people hate adverts so much they'd pay itv and co direct for a non advert version of their on demand player= money for them |
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Plus its monthly sub is £0. :) |
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Can it do sky sports though? |
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Compares favourably with the ongoing neverending costs of VM/ Sky. The thing here is being able to record and ff through ads, which the major providers want to stop. For many the free channels are enough, bit of a cheek for vm/sky to charge for them tbh. But of you want more you could supplement with a Now tv stock or such like. |
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Hmm intriguing. Currently trying to renew with virgin media as my loyalty bonus ends in February. If I can keep the same price I’ll renew. 3 360 boxes in the house. Sky sports, sky movies and TNT Sports. Let’s see what inflation and greed will offer me….
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is there reason why la liga tv was withdrawn from virgin media? the channel still exists so it seems weird it was on virgin media and then withdrawn
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The only thing you can do is to start investigating alternative suppliers, what can they offer, how much will it cost, then, come January, call VM to discuss. If you don’t like what they demand, then cancel, just put in your cancellation, because that is the only way that they might get back to you with a more acceptable offer. But emphasis on ‘might’, they may not, so you absolutely have to be prepared to go through with your threat and actually leave. The very worse thing you can do is to give notice, VM call your bluff and accept it, don’t offer you a better deal, and you call them, basically begging to stay. You will inevitably find that the previous ‘deal’ is no longer available, and that to stay it will cost you even more. Get all of your ducks in a row, have an alternative in mind, but absolutely be prepared to walk. |
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Its a year since I left VM now, dont miss it one bit. :)
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aye thanks richard and paul. you with EETV Richard? WHo are you with Paul?
I live with my elderly mother who doesnt like change. been with telewest/virgin media since 1999 so i always hope to get some "Oh youve been with us a while lets treat you well" and yet again now getting treated like fools with the offers haha. |
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