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Pierre 08-01-2025 21:39

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Because there’s a massive bunker there, so when the inevitable planet killer comet hits the Earth we can all hide there for a year or so, then re-emerge and rebuild the planet, well the western bits.


Unfortunately, Engineers, scientists and artists are invited, people with human and gender studies degrees will be left to perish.

And no, I’m not drinking………much


https://www.imdb.com/find/?q=greenland&ref_=nv_sr_sm

Hugh 08-01-2025 22:07

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Don Jr has already left Greenland, disappointed after realising that all the white stuff is just snow…

1andrew1 08-01-2025 22:49

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36188944)
Anyone know why Donny wants Greenland???

To be the man to build the first golf course there? ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36188934)
His Majesty King Charles III might have something to say about Canada too... Tbh we and the Mounties should reinvade and save the American people.

Agreed. All that good tea going to waste in 1773 pains me. We need to take back control.

Hugh 09-01-2025 00:46

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36188969)
To be the man to build the first golf course there? ;)

---------- Post added at 22:49 ---------- Previous post was at 22:45 ----------


Agreed. All that good tea going to waste in 1773 pains me. We need to take back control.

I know - all US hotels seem to offer is Orange Pekoe…

tweetiepooh 09-01-2025 09:26

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Maybe he needs to watch the "documentary" Candian Bacon.

1andrew1 09-01-2025 14:52

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Some special relationship!! Sounds like what the USA and the USSR would have done with a hostile regime and not a fellow NATO member.
Quote:

Musk examines how to oust Starmer as UK prime minister before next election

Technology billionaire interested in building support for another political party, notably Reform UK

Musk, the world’s richest man and key confidant of US president-elect Donald Trump, is probing how he and his rightwing allies can destabilise the UK Labour government beyond the aggressive posts he has issued on his social media platform X, the people said...

Musk has sought information about whether it might be possible to build support for alternative British political movements — notably the rightwing populist Reform UK party — to force a change of prime minister before the next election, according to associates...

Musk has been examining possible candidates to replace Farage as leader of the party, including Reform UK MP Rupert Lowe, and has probed what mechanisms there are to replace him, according to people briefed on his thinking.
https://www.ft.com/content/dd4b066c-...e-82c334a740cf

ianch99 09-01-2025 15:23

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189004)
Some special relationship!! Sounds like what the USA and the USSR would have done with a hostile regime and not a fellow NATO member.

https://www.ft.com/content/dd4b066c-...e-82c334a740cf

Ed Davey has the right idea:

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/exclusive-...090103566.html

Quote:

In an avalanche of posts on X, he has said Phillips should be in jail and called for America to intervene to overthrow the Labour government.

In response, Davey posted: “People have had enough of Elon Musk interfering with our country’s democracy when he clearly knows nothing about Britain.

It’s time to summon the US ambassador to ask why an incoming US official is suggesting the UK government should be overthrown.”

Pierre 09-01-2025 19:31

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36189005)
Ed Davey has the right idea

Bungee jumping?

Kayaking?

Roller Coaster?

ianch99 09-01-2025 21:35

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
There must be something behind all the Canada/Greenland/Panama hot air. Normally populists will try and distract the audience when there is something they don't want you to focus on or they are planning something they don't want you to know about. I wonder ... :erm:

Damien 09-01-2025 22:03

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36189038)
There must be something behind all the Canada/Greenland/Panama hot air. Normally populists will try and distract the audience when there is something they don't want you to focus on or they are planning something they don't want you to know about. I wonder ... :erm:

Trump has a massive ego and being the President that adds a state and/or increases America's size would be huge for him.

Plus both Greenland and Canada are genuinely advantageous for security and economic purposes.

Canada is a non-starter but he probably thinks there is an outside chance of Greenland.

Chris 09-01-2025 22:57

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Trump listens to people who tell him what he wants to hear. Someone has told him that Greenlanders are trying to loosen their ties with Denmark and this means he must surely have an opportunity to swoop in. If he actually does want to get old of it, then when he fails to do so he will fire someone and move on.

ianch99 10-01-2025 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189043)
Trump has a massive ego and being the President that adds a state and/or increases America's size would be huge for him.

Plus both Greenland and Canada are genuinely advantageous for security and economic purposes.

Canada is a non-starter but he probably thinks there is an outside chance of Greenland.

But there are a lot of MAGA voters that are wondering WTF he is doing wasting his time on this stuff, they voted for him to cut the price of eggs, so to speak.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=31261

Attachment 31261

Chris 10-01-2025 12:02

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The problem for the MAGA cult is that Trump is a second term president. He doesn’t have to worry about re-election so he not quite so at the mercy of domestic politics (though only to some extent - if he upsets enough people in the first 2 years, a poor showing at mid-term elections could render Capitol Hill totally unmanageable in his last 2).

1andrew1 14-01-2025 11:29

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Quote:

Donald Trump would have been convicted of illegally attempting to overturn the 2020 election result, were it not for his presidential victory last year, special counsel Jack Smith has concluded.

The 45th president “inspired his supporters to commit acts of physical violence” on January 6 2021 when they stormed the US Capitol by knowingly spread a false narrative about election fraud in the 2020 race, Smith determined in the final report on his investigation published in the early hours of Tuesday morning.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...80133b1a9&ei=8

Kursk 14-01-2025 12:05

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189313)

Well, now that Jack has screamed "Not fair, NOT FAIR!" will he allow the President-elect of the USA to get on with the grown-ups stuff? :rolleyes:

1andrew1 14-01-2025 12:22

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36189315)
Well, now that Jack has screamed "Not fair, NOT FAIR!" will he allow the President-elect of the USA to get on with the grown-ups stuff? :rolleyes:

Jack wrote a report that stated Trump “inspired his supporters to commit acts of physical violence” on January 6 2021 when they stormed the US Capitol by knowingly spread a false narrative about election fraud in the 2020 race. He didn't scream anything.

The grown-up, Biden, is indeed getting on with the grown-up stuff.

Trump himself is doubtless whingeing in a dark corner of social media to his echo chamber knowing, however, that he evaded justice thanks only to being elected.

papa smurf 14-01-2025 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189316)
Jack wrote a report that stated Trump “inspired his supporters to commit acts of physical violence” on January 6 2021 when they stormed the US Capitol by knowingly spread a false narrative about election fraud in the 2020 race. He didn't scream anything.

The grown-up, Biden, is indeed getting on with the grown-up stuff.

Trump himself is doubtless whingeing in a dark corner of social media to his echo chamber knowing, however, that he evaded justice thanks only to being elected.

:rofl:

he doesn't know his arse from his elbow most of the time he's clearly 20 years past his use by date

TheDaddy 14-01-2025 13:37

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36189317)
:rofl:

he doesn't know his arse from his elbow most of the time he's clearly 20 years past his use by date

and yet he's presided over the fastest economic growth in history and not added 7 trillion to the deficit like donnie did, perhaps that's the grown up stuff Kursk was talking about, why is it whenever a Republican leaves the presidency there has to be a rescue or recovery act to clean up after them going all the way back to Reagan

Hugh 19-01-2025 13:16

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Donald Trump's inauguration moved indoors due to 'dangerous' cold

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceq9917rl18o

Quote:

President-elect Donald Trump's inaugural address on 20 January will take place indoors due to dangerously cold weather being forecast next week in Washington, he has confirmed.

The address, as well as other speeches, will now take place inside the US Capitol's rotunda, rather than outside the building.
Shouldn’t be an issue - Trump supporters already know how to get into the Capitol without an invite…

Hom3r 19-01-2025 13:31

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36189575)
Donald Trump's inauguration moved indoors due to 'dangerous' cold

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceq9917rl18o



Shouldn’t be an issue - Trump supporters already know how to get into the Capitol without an invite…


:LOL::LOL:

1andrew1 19-01-2025 14:01

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36189575)
Donald Trump's inauguration moved indoors due to 'dangerous' cold

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceq9917rl18o

Shouldn’t be an issue - Trump supporters already know how to get into the Capitol without an invite…

:D

TheDaddy 19-01-2025 14:31

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36189575)
Donald Trump's inauguration moved indoors due to 'dangerous' cold

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ceq9917rl18o



Shouldn’t be an issue - Trump supporters already know how to get into the Capitol without an invite…

It'll still be the biggest crowd ever, also in a break with tradition Joe Biden isn't going to incite a violent mob to overthrow the incoming government or relentlessly bleat about the election being stollen

Kursk 19-01-2025 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36189581)
It'll still be the biggest crowd ever, also in a break with tradition Joe Biden isn't going to incite a violent mob to overthrow the incoming government or relentlessly bleat about the election being stollen

Stollen is a type of bread Daddy. I know, I know...but it hurts my eyes :)

Hugh 19-01-2025 19:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36189581)
It'll still be the biggest crowd ever, also in a break with tradition Joe Biden isn't going to incite a violent mob to overthrow the incoming government or relentlessly bleat about the election being stollen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36189588)
Stollen is a type of bread Daddy. I know, I know...but it hurts my eyes :)

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-s...-b2398249.html

Quote:

Despite the tremendous success that I have had as President, including perhaps the greatest ECONOMY and most successful first two years of any President in history, they have stollen two years of my (our) Presidency (Collusion Delusion) that we will never be able to get back…”
;)

Kursk 19-01-2025 23:02

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Thanks Hugh, I stopped reading all the details a while ago. My apologies to TheDaddy :).

Paul 20-01-2025 01:45

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Should be an interesting first day in office, apparently.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8ymk73xj5o
Quote:

Trump promises blizzard of executive orders on first day of presidency

In the meantime, our leader seems to think we'll be fine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c391vezrzxyo
Quote:

US-UK relations will flourish under Trump, says PM

1andrew1 20-01-2025 07:13

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
After U-turning on both Ukraine and making food prices cheaper, who knows what Trump has in store for his second team.

papa smurf 20-01-2025 08:14

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189599)
After U-turning on both Ukraine and making food prices cheaper, who knows what Trump has in store for his second team.

up to 200 executive orders on day 1 according to sky news

Hugh 20-01-2025 09:06

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
"up to" doing a lot of heavy lifting there…

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...orders-border/

Quote:

“Within hours of taking office I will sign dozens of executive orders, close to a hundred to be exact, many of which I will be describing in my address tomorrow,” Trump said at a dinner for people who had donated to the inauguration festivities.

Pierre 20-01-2025 09:48

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Just going to be a dictator on day one.

papa smurf 20-01-2025 09:56

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189602)
Just going to be a dictator on day one.

“resurgent fascism”

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...p-inauguration

Chris 20-01-2025 10:01

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He’s planning to sign an executive order banning gender-woo-woo from all government business. In fact the text leaked to select US journalists actually uses the definition ‘woman: adult human female’ exactly as has been circulated by a British feminist campaigner, Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, since 2018.

(You may have seen a billboard, tee shirt or sticker randomly about the place - here’s one I spotted on holiday in Penzance last summer).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1737367267

ianch99 20-01-2025 10:09

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
What on earth is "gender-woo-woo"?

Chris 20-01-2025 10:14

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36189609)
What on earth is "gender-woo-woo"?

Gender identity ideology - the (nonsensical) claim that one may ‘identify’ as anything other than the male or female they were born as, ostensibly due to the existence of a gender identity (sometimes called a ‘gendered soul’) that may or may not match the biological sex of one’s body.

You might very charitably call it a social science. It is more accurately a neo-religious philosophy. And it is presently infecting great swathes of public life in the western world, with such real-world consequences as women losing places in sports teams to men (who not only claim to be women, and think of themselves as women, but then actually expect everyone else to carry on as if they really are women), women prisoners at risk of harm from men being housed with them, women being told they aren’t allowed to require a woman in intimate or stressful situations such as hospital treatments or rape crisis counselling.

But I’m sure you knew all this already. Feel free to performatively clutch your pearls at this point. ;)

ianch99 20-01-2025 10:29

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36189610)
Gender identity ideology - the (nonsensical) claim that one may ‘identify’ as anything other than the male or female they were born as, ostensibly due to the existence of a gender identity (sometimes called a ‘gendered soul’) that may or may not match the biological sex of one’s body.

You might very charitably call it a social science. It is more accurately a neo-religious philosophy. And it is presently infecting great swathes of public life in the western world, with such real-world consequences as women losing places in sports teams to men (who not only claim to be women, and think of themselves as women, but then actually expect everyone else to carry on as if they really are women), women prisoners at risk of harm from men being housed with them, women being told they aren’t allowed to require a woman in intimate or stressful situations such as hospital treatments or rape crisis counselling.

But I’m sure you knew all this already. Feel free to performatively clutch your pearls at this point. ;)

Straight to the ad hominem attack. I was going to agree with you about the conflation of "female" individuals that, as most people would agree, need to segregated from females in hospitals, prisons, etc. but then point out there is room to cater for those people that can clearly present as adult women after gender reassignment therapy/surgery. I think this nuance is one that will be lost going forward with the shouting match between the two extreme sides of this debate.

I think the Trump presidency will increase hostility to the idea of Trans individuals given his sponsorship by the Evangelical Right. Remains to be seen if this change will be mirrored here in the UK

Chris 20-01-2025 10:34

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36189611)
Straight to the ad hominem attack. I was going to agree with you about the conflation of "female" individuals that, as most people would agree, need to segregated from females in hospitals, prisons, etc. but then point out there is room to cater for those people that can clearly present as adult women after gender reassignment therapy/surgery. I think this nuance is one that will be lost going forward with the shouting match between the two extreme sides of this debate.

My apologies for getting over excited :Peaceman: The truth is, I’m pretty down at the thought of what Trump is likely to do over the next 4 years so I’m euphoric at getting a win on day one. Major social shifts like this do tend to cross the Atlantic and should have an effect on the policy discourse here.

Yes, I agree, finding ways to deal compassionately with those who have undergone surgical intervention is going to be difficult going forward. We can at least give thanks to Hilary Cass for putting the brakes on activist attempts to exascerbate that problem. Nobody should be in any doubt that the medicalisation of psychological distress in children and teenagers has been a key plank of trans activism. Creating a class of young adults who have undergone such intervention is a useful Trojan horse.

Hom3r 20-01-2025 11:33

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
I'm avoiding all news and news channels for few days.


I don't want to swear at my TV and raise my BP any higher than it is.

1andrew1 20-01-2025 11:51

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36189615)
I'm avoiding all news and news channels for few days.

I don't want to swear at my TV and raise my BP any higher than it is.

Sensible advice. No one forces people to watch the news at ten or to listen to politicians of all persuasions who wind them up.

Pierre 20-01-2025 12:44

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36189604)
He’s planning to sign an executive order banning gender-woo-woo from all government business. In fact the text leaked to select US journalists actually uses the definition ‘woman: adult human female’ exactly as has been circulated by a British feminist campaigner, Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, since 2018.

(You may have seen a billboard, tee shirt or sticker randomly about the place - here’s one I spotted on holiday in Penzance last summer).

Gets my vote.

papa smurf 20-01-2025 13:18

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36189604)
He’s planning to sign an executive order banning gender-woo-woo from all government business. In fact the text leaked to select US journalists actually uses the definition ‘woman: adult human female’ exactly as has been circulated by a British feminist campaigner, Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull, since 2018.

(You may have seen a billboard, tee shirt or sticker randomly about the place - here’s one I spotted on holiday in Penzance last summer).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1737367267

interestingly shaped bollard :naughty:

Chris 20-01-2025 15:56

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36189627)
interestingly shaped bollard :naughty:

Well, the corollary is of course that a man is an adult human male …

Dingbat 20-01-2025 16:40

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36189615)
I'm avoiding all news and news channels for few days.


I don't want to swear at my TV and raise my BP any higher than it is.

Same here. Even the shopping channels are more appealing than listening to his droning voice.

1andrew1 20-01-2025 17:03

Re: Trump wins US Presidency for a 2nd Term
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36189627)
interestingly shaped bollard :naughty:

:D

Chris 20-01-2025 17:03

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Right, so this is happening.

thenry 20-01-2025 17:13

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
:woot: yes America!

Stephen 20-01-2025 17:14

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Love that Biden preemptively garden hos brothers and sister in the last minutes as President.

Russ 20-01-2025 17:28

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
The world just became a very dark place.

Hom3r 20-01-2025 17:46

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
So I guess then that on Wednesday the Ukraine War will be over then?

Stephen 20-01-2025 17:50

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Wow that speech and list of stuff was very depressing, Trump just turned the clock back about 80 years.

Damien 20-01-2025 17:55

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Did I mishear or did he say Americans split the atom?

Russ 20-01-2025 17:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36189664)
So I guess then that on Wednesday the Ukraine War will be over then?

He said he’d end the war in 24 hours.

Of course he didn’t say which 24 hours, or whether each hour will be in sequence.

Mr K 20-01-2025 18:01

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I'm going to get cryogenically frozen for 4 years. It's for the best.

Russ 20-01-2025 18:18

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189668)
I'm going to get cryogenically frozen for 4 years. It's for the best.

My money is on him not even lasting the full 4 years.

Itshim 20-01-2025 18:42

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So Biden shows himself in the last minutes of his office to be a liar. Family and pardons !

Hugh 20-01-2025 18:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189669)
My money is on him not even lasting the full 4 years.


<cough cough>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36185583)
Whatever you do, don’t mention the 25th Amendment!

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...t#post36185583

papa smurf 20-01-2025 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189668)
I'm going to get cryogenically frozen for 4 years. It's for the best.

Jump into the freezer with all the other vegetables :)

Mr K 20-01-2025 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189669)
My money is on him not even lasting the full 4 years.

Stroke/ heart attack ? We can only hope, but that means JD Vance, with less intellectual capability than an amoeba.... Only a slight improvement.

Dingbat 20-01-2025 18:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36189673)
So Biden shows himself in the last minutes of his office to be a liar. Family and pardons !

Preemptive pardons, in case the orange one starts conjuring up trumped-up charges against them.

Itshim 20-01-2025 18:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36189677)
Preemptive pardons, in case the orange one starts conjuring up trumped-up charges against them.

He stated it was not going to do it. Don't care why a lie is a lie:D

papa smurf 20-01-2025 18:54

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Boris Johnson pictured at Trump inauguration

The Prime Minister was not invited to the swearing-in of the 47th US President although Mr Johnson, former PM Liz Truss and Reform leader Nigel Farage were.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...armer-breaking

Paul 20-01-2025 19:11

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He's going to piss an awful lot of people off.
Not just in other countries, but in the US as well.
I dont rate his chances of making the full 4 years.

Pierre 20-01-2025 19:15

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189668)
I'm going to get cryogenically frozen for 4 years. It's for the best.

That’s a policy I can get behind.

---------- Post added at 19:15 ---------- Previous post was at 19:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189686)
He's going to piss an awful lot of people off.
Not just in other countries, but in the US as well.
I dont rate his chances of making the full 4 years.

If Biden can make it, he’ll make it.

Though I’m sure they’ll find something to try and impeach him on.

Anyway, if I was an American I’d be much more optimistic for the future of the USA, than I am for the U.K. under Labour and Starmer.

peanut 20-01-2025 19:49

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 36189665)
Wow that speech and list of stuff was very depressing, Trump just turned the clock back about 80 years.

Is that a bad thing? The way things are going and how they are now, it doesn't sound that bad to me.

Russ 20-01-2025 19:53

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36189676)
Stroke/ heart attack ? We can only hope

Well he’s overweight, he’s pushing 80, mentally unstable, not that I’d wish death on anyone but nature does have a habit of ironing things out.

Itshim 20-01-2025 20:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189687)
That’s a policy I can get behind.
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Anyway, if I was an American I’d be much more optimistic for the future of the USA, than I am for the U.K. under Labour and Starmer.

Totally agree. We still have a auto sales business, told we have had the best day for 3 years :D

1andrew1 20-01-2025 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36189693)
Totally agree. We still have a auto sales business, told we have had the best day for 3 years :D

People buying stock before Trumpflation kicks in.

Russ 20-01-2025 20:53

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Anyone else spot Musk doing a Nazi salute? The mask slipped a bit there.

1andrew1 20-01-2025 21:20

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189687)
That’s a policy I can get behind.

:D

Pierre 20-01-2025 21:36

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189698)
Anyone else spot Musk doing a Nazi salute? The mask slipped a bit there.

No.

Russ 20-01-2025 21:39

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189701)
No.

:LOL::LOL::LOL:

1andrew1 20-01-2025 21:48

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189702)
:LOL::LOL::LOL:

In fairness to Pierre, his TV was switched off. ;)

Damien 20-01-2025 21:56

Re: President Trump 2.0
 


Here is the video. People can decide for themselves but I suspect those who like him will say it's a normal salute and those who will say it's a Nazi one. I think the 1st one he does you can say it's not quite obvious enough to say, a Nazi salute tends to be straight in front of you. The 2nd one looks a lot worse though.

Pierre 20-01-2025 22:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36189702)
:LOL::LOL::LOL:

I haven’t been watching everything, I’m probably not as obsessed with it as you are.

I have now seen it, via a 3 second clip on X.

Difficult to make an assessment of that.

I suppose the question is, do you think Musk is a Nazi? And how have you come to that opinion?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189704)


Here is the video. People can decide for themselves but I suspect those who like him will say it's a normal salute and those who will say it's a Nazi one.

Is he a Nazi?

Would love to see what he has done, throughout his life that would evidence that v a 3sec video.

I’ll wait…….

(Not aiming that at you Damien, I know you didn’t make such a claim)

1andrew1 20-01-2025 22:06

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
I suppose the question is: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it a duck?

Pierre 20-01-2025 22:07

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1 Attachment(s)
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Pierre 20-01-2025 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189707)
I suppose the question is: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it a duck?

Are calling Kamala Harris a Nazi?


Shame on you…..

1andrew1 20-01-2025 22:17

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189709)
Are calling Kamala Harris a Nazi?

Shame on you…..

Read Damien's post. It's the second salute that's questionable. Your meme is about the first salute.

And no, giving a Nazi salute does not make you a Nazi. But it crosses the boundaries of publicly acceptable behaviour in many countries.

Damien 20-01-2025 22:23

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I don't know if he is a Nazi or not and I don't care because we don't know what his thinking is.

I suspect he either did it by accident or to wind people up. He seems to like stirring things up and doing a 'sort of/maybe' Nazi salute for everyone to argue about on inauguration day seems like the kind of thing he would do.

He is a very strange guy.

Chris 20-01-2025 22:49

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189707)
I suppose the question is: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it a duck?

Yes. And if it goose steps like a Nazi, yells like a Nazi and salutes like a Nazi, it’s a Nazi. Musk on the other hand does none of those things, and tbh his hand/arm gesture in that photo looks more like a Superman reference than an Aryan one. A Nazi salute is straight back, eyes front, arm sharply up and back down. I believe the heel click is optional.

ianch99 20-01-2025 22:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189707)
I suppose the question is: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, is it a duck?

Do you mean if it looks like a goose, quacks like a goose and steps like a goose? :)

To be fair, his dad did say: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-new...rican-34198513

Quote:

In a separate interview, Errol explained how right-wing poltics were at the core of his family's history. Elon's maternal grandparents relocated from Canada to South Africa in the early 1900s as they knew the Afrikaner government was a stronghold of support for Nazism outside of Germany.

"They used to support Hitler and all that sort of stuff. But they didn't know, I don't think they knew what the Nazis were doing. But they [the grandparents] were in the German Nazi party but in Canada. And they sympathise with the Germans. "
I guess having Nazi grand parents and growing up on Apartheid South Africa has its effect ...

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36189712)
Yes. And if it goose steps like a Nazi, yells like a Nazi and salutes like a Nazi, it’s a Nazi. Musk on the other hand does none of those things, and tbh his hand/arm gesture in that photo looks more like a Superman reference than an Aryan one. A Nazi salute is straight back, eyes front, arm sharply up and back down. I believe the heel click is optional.

Snap!

Russ 20-01-2025 22:56

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36189705)
I suppose the question is, do you think Musk is a Nazi? And how have you come to that opinion?

A) I have no idea
B) Because I have no idea

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189711)
I suspect he either did it by accident or to wind people up. He seems to like stirring things up and doing a 'sort of/maybe' Nazi salute for everyone to argue about on inauguration day seems like the kind of thing he would do.

Bingo :tu:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36189711)
He is a very strange guy.

Double bingo.

Chris 20-01-2025 22:58

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… having watched the video rather than just look at the still, it looks more like an ancient Roman salute than anything else. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a feature of some nerdy online game he likes playing. :D

One thing’s for certain, the Nazis never went in for the chest beating. Far too sensual and inefficient.

1andrew1 20-01-2025 23:21

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The important aspect here is: If Musk took the spotlight off Trumpn on his big day, Trump won't be happy!

TheDaddy 20-01-2025 23:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36189717)
… having watched the video rather than just look at the still, it looks more like an ancient Roman salute than anything else. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a feature of some nerdy online game he likes playing. :D

One thing’s for certain, the Nazis never went in for the chest beating. Far too sensual and inefficient.

Wasn't the nazi salute based on the Roman salute, in fact iirc fascism is based on Rome and it's emperors

Dude111 21-01-2025 03:28

Anyone think he will do GOOD this time??

Paul 21-01-2025 04:42

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Its unclear at best - a Nazi Salute to those who want it to be, not so much for the rest of us.

Russ 21-01-2025 10:07

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
He knew what he was doing, just a case of him being provocative with plausible deniability.

TheDaddy 21-01-2025 17:57

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What a clown, 100% tariffs on Spain :spin: :dunce:

Paul 21-01-2025 18:00

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36189752)
What a clown, 100% tariffs on Spain :spin: :dunce:

You could have stopped after three words ;)

1andrew1 21-01-2025 19:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189754)
You could have stopped after three words ;)

I was thinking after two words! :D

Trump is now making Biden look like a Mastermind contestant. His cognitive decline is a worry.

For those who don't know what we're rambling on about:

Quote:

Trump mistakes Spain for a member of the BRICS bloc and repeats the threat of massive tariffs

BARCELONA, Spain (AP) — U.S. President Donald Trump has apparently confused Spain for a member of the BRICS bloc of developing economies, causing some head-scratching and jitters over possible tariffs in Madrid.

Spain is not in BRICS, whose initials stand for Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa. Spain is a member of NATO, along with the U.S., and of the European Union.

Trump erroneously said Spain was in BRICS when a journalist asked him about NATO countries like Spain which don’t meet the NATO minimum of spending 2% of economic output on defense. Spain ranked last in the 32-nation military alliance, estimated to spend 1.28% on defense last year.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-spa...865ca8bede4077

Russ 21-01-2025 20:32

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And this idiot is in charge of the nuclear codes.

The world is for a very bumpy ride over the next 4 years.

TheDaddy 21-01-2025 20:52

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36189760)
I was thinking after two words! :D

Trump is now making Biden look like a Mastermind contestant. His cognitive decline is a worry.

For those who don't know what we're rambling on about:



https://apnews.com/article/trump-spa...865ca8bede4077

You think joint president musk would have told donnie the S stood for South Africa :shrug:

1andrew1 21-01-2025 21:35

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36189763)
You think joint president musk would have told donnie the S stood for South Africa :shrug:

He might well have done but Trump forgot it.

Dude111 22-01-2025 05:02

I read he wants all water systems to remove flouride..

Do they have to do it??

Damien 22-01-2025 07:41

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They can do it. Flouride isn't universally added to water in Western nations. France doesn't add it nor do many European countries (although they add it to salt for some reason). We added it because of a concern over dental health.

I think now people are better at dental hygiene and have fluoride toothpaste so it's less pressing. Adding it to water is much more effective when people aren't brushing their teeth.

Fluoride is perfectly safe though. It's just this bro-science where a community of people have decided it's not safe because in large amounts it's dangerous but a lot of healthy and safe things are in excessive amounts. You'll never expose yourself to anything close to dangerous levels unless you start eating pack after pack of toothpaste in one sitting.

Stephen 22-01-2025 10:58

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
It occurs naturally in water. To remove it completely t
Would be a total waste of money.

Hugh 22-01-2025 11:51

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36189722)
Its unclear at best - a Nazi Salute to those who want it to be, not so much for the rest of us.

Perhaps the ”World”s smartest man*" should have considered that, since he has been vociferous in supporting far-right movements like the AfD, and he was on a stage making a political speech in front of a right-wing audience, elongating his arm diagonally in the air both forcefully and repeatedly, might be misinterpreted?

*according to his supporters

ianch99 22-01-2025 11:58

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36189792)
Perhaps the ”World”s smartest man*" should have considered that, since he has been vociferous in supporting far-right movements like the AfD, and he was on a stage making a political speech in front of a right-wing audience, elongating his arm diagonally in the air both forcefully and repeatedly, might be misinterpreted?

*according to his supporters

I am seeing a new name for Musk: "Twitler" :) Maybe inviting him to the inauguration wasn't the "Reich" move ;)

1andrew1 22-01-2025 12:32

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36189793)
I am seeing a new name for Musk: "Twitler" :) Maybe inviting him to the inauguration wasn't the "Reich" move ;)

:D

Hugh 22-01-2025 12:52

Re: President Trump 2.0
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36189793)
I am seeing a new name for Musk: "Twitler" :) Maybe inviting him to the inauguration wasn't the "Reich" move ;)

Another new name has also arisen for all the billionaire tech bros supporting Trump: "The Nerd Reich*"…

*first appeared on Bluesky August ‘23


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