Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

good to have CNN back

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

i agree good time to get it too. Always need a yank news channel and we lost that nbc news now channel quick didn't we. still always wanted the fox news channel for the lolz but sadly that never happened.

not having fox news and sky Atlantic never really made any sense to me. Atlantic especially they honestly thought people would 1) move to sky 2) buy nowtv purely to watch game of thrones.

Most people i know just downloaded it illegally if they were on virgin media. not me as i just thought it was a weird geeky little show but with sex scenes to spice it up.

I say that as a geek myself.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

With CNN and CNN Fast now also added to Pluto, it's getting difficult to avoid it. It's amazing the changes a US election can bring.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

thats why i'd love fox news, nbc news to accompany cnn. get all the possible chaos possible during election season

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

You can get Fox News International on Roku or Fire TV but it isn't free. I think it is about £4.99/month but you do get a 30 day free trial. Not as much fun though if you have to pay. CBS News is available on Roku along with Haystack News, an aggregator on which you can watch ABC News, CBS News, Bloomberg etc and, of course, CNN. Roku isn't the best for news apps although it has lots of US local news channels and right wing news channels (many of which now have subscription fees). Fire TV has NBC News, which is a 3 in 1 app with NBC News Now, MSNBC (subscription only) & Today (which will only work in America).

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Overnight changes:
On channel 923 Gold has been renamed Gold Radio. - the full stop is, unusually, a part of the new service name.
Further details:
https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

This is the nearest you can get to Fox News in the UK for free:
https://www.livenowfox.com/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Made me laugh how they are being disingenuous by advertising CNN on the Discovery Bar as a 'new' channel. Perhaps they could remove Discovery for months and then advertise that another new channel has launched!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Well it a new channel.

When CNN want away in 2021 it was a SD Channel.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

No it's not, it's a channel that was pulled that has now been restored. What definition it is in is neither here nor there.

GOLD wasn't classed as a new channel when the UKTV channels were pulled and returned in HD.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I've got the CBS News app on my apple tv. its great with all the regional versions of the news channels. earthquakes you just jump on cbs los angeles. hurricane go to cbs miami. terrible winter weather just jump to cbs new York. do love the drama they make out of things!

CBS News Miami Hurricane Judy is sponsored by Ford.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

When the UKTV channels were restored, Virgin simply reactivated the old services. CNN has been away for so long that they gave it a new ID number, so in that respect it is a new service. Nobody in the real world actually cares about that sort of technical explanation and most will consider it to be a returning service rather than a new one. As far as marketing goes, it is something new, something to promote and that's what we are seeing with the new channel claims.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The Express announces the arrival of the MUBI app on TV 360 and Stream devices in a less than complimentary manner.
https://www.express.co.uk/life-style...offers-upgrade

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Article says "To make things even better, the usual £11.99 MUBI price has been dropped by 70 percent when signing up via Virgin (or through Priority from O2) with that lower cost lasting for the first three months."

O2 offer is 70% off for six months.

This says six months for both - but can't find a real VM screen to confirm - https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.ph...m-service.html

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

They have their own offers anyway which are considerably less than the standard price. The standard price is £11.99/mth or £18.99/mth for MUBI GO, with a 33% discount if paid annually. My original offer was £1 for 3 months.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

When UKTV did come back.

GOLD SD did come back on August 11th.

GOLD was rebrand as GOLD HD on September 25th.

https://mediaboyukblog.blogspot.com/...nels.html#more

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

no idea what MUBI is and the movies it quoted in the article i have no idea what they are. I assume its not for the likes of me.

here's one thing annoying me at the moment. soap operas aren't my thing but i do love classic soap operas. they're hilarious. i'm in my 30s (late 30s) and i thoroughly enjoyed watching classic coronation street and eastenders on itv 3 and UK Drama. That was a few years ago now.

Whats happened since? classic corrie and classic eastenders is now in the era of "lets make everyone cheat on each other, lets have mass murders and natural disasters" i.e. theyre now all post 2005.

Yet the audience is still there as the show is still slightly less sh*t than 2024 so they're quite passionate about it continuing as it is.

Surely a "classic" tv show should cover at least the first 30% of the shows existence rather than what we get now.

I miss the days of being able to watch classic brookside and classic neighbours too. I see amazon only uploaded the more modern episodes yet again they realise if they uploaded the genuine 80s episodes people would go "ooh thats better than the current product!"

Can we expect for actual classic corrie, classic eastenders, classic neighbours etc to be coming soon or are we stuck with 2000s episodes because people like them more than 2024 stuff even though its not "classic"

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I watch a lot of films but nothing on MUBI is even tempting me with the 70% offer - even for one month try-out.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I signed up to the app in 2022 without actually subscribing. I browsed through the content for a while and nothing really appealed to me. It wasn't until they did the £1 for 3 months offer that I decided to give it a try. I watched a few films, they were all decent, probably to be expected as they were all award winning. When the flash sale came along for a heavily discounted annual subscription, I renewed for a further year. I was quite surprised that some of the films were actually quite enjoyable. You don't know unless you try it. I wouldn't pay £11.99/month though, I think that is overpriced. The £18.99/month version includes a weekly cinema ticket for their film choice of the week. Many would probably find having the film selected for you too restrictive, then there is the issue of it may not be showing in your local area.

On the whole though, I'm quite impressed but I probably wouldn't have taken the bait had it not been for the £1 promotion.

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Probably more for film enthusiasts really but with a wide variety of award winning films you'll probably find stuff that would interest you. Wait for a mega-discounted promotion though if you are going to try it out.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Never heard of them either, so I looked them up.

They appeared to have a lot of decent films (I just looked at Sci-Fi) but they seem mostly older films, a few years at least.

This would have tempted me for £1 :D
https://mubi.com/en/gb/films/duck-do...the-24-century

But then I noticed this ;
Checking all the others that would have interested me, they all said the same. So Nope.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

anything interesting due this week or month...

do we know when the sky basic channels agreement was signed with virgin media

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Just more Sky Cinema Channels rebrand has been confirmed.

Nothing is testing right now.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Go out for a walk in the autumn sunshine, see the leaves changing colour, and worry less about channel numbers changing :)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

been here 17 years chief worrying about channel numbers and getting excited about ridiculous stuff...i reckon i'm stuck with this now ! :D

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

DAZN app added to 360

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

boxing ppvs, NFL games and womens champions league? Is that it?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

13 streaming channels including Motorsport, boxing, darts, powersports ...

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

powersports...oh my.

in order news that sky sports red button facility is got a ton of content these days. its quite incredible

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Now confirmed that Eden will shortly go FTA as U&Eden on Freesat, Freeview and Sky.

Whilst Virgin customers will still have to pay to access the channel, this change should mean that it will move to the lowest packs and become available to all customers.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Virgin will rebrand channel and change package when U&Eden do launch by December.

RXTV says in August it would be in November but rumours on my X page think It will happen on October 16th (Unconfirmed Freeview changes day)

Freeview has two slot free to use right now for UKTV wants to buy the new slot (SDN or COM6)

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For more information on HOW Freeview works see this post I posted yesterday.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...&postcount=808

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:
Prospective FAST channels, Hell's Kitchen & Egg Heads moved to placeholder slots without ever being launched.
2 new prospective FAST channels Mythbusters & Tipping Point have arrived in their place, maybe these will actually launch ...who knows?
Further information:
https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

always find it ironic they call it fast channels.....yet they're not fast to load up

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Ha ha good point. They can be a bit like dial-up speed!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Who on earth wants to watch 24/7 'homes under the hammer'. These are the most dire 'channels' ever content wise.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I couldn’t agree with you more, Mr K. Things have become so dire now that TV channel enthusiasts are having wet dreams at the thought of getting a new FAST channel that airs nothing but a single programme, more than likely to be old repeats of programmes already available on VM On Demand.

Still, everyone to their own.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

What are the channel 220 to 254?
They look like back to back episodes. Are they free?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Free
Ad
Supported
Television

FAST ... internet based channels showing certain shows or themes.

Crap for some. Suits others.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Coming soon... the Watch The Paint Dry channel. Sure to be a winner! ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Very few people, which is the whole point. It's a cost-effective way of delivering niche content. If many people wanted to watch it, broadcasting is more efficient.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

should call it FABLE – Free Ad-Based Entertainment

as the speed is so slow its like a fable

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

What does the "L" stand for ;)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

"LOL"

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Someone has said that they have been told that the 360 will be having a major software update on 29 October.

Does anyone know if this is correct or just the usual CS BS?

If correct let's hope that they are now going to allow the recording of radio, this is one reason why I don't want one.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:

Cartoonito now available in HD on channel 706 after a change of transport stream.

Boomerang now available in HD on channel 730 after a change of transport stream.

The Sky News (SD) placeholder has been removed after protecting recordings for 100 days since the channel was removed from the EPG.

1 movie channel with a promotional rebrand.

Further information:
https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Re: The full stop. It seems that Virgin must name each channel label exactly how the broadcaster wants it, though they must have to compromise if the name is too long.

Do they sometimes bring back removed FAST channels after they've been removed? I'm fairly sure thar Catfish has been added after a previous removal.

Perhaps they only pay for/have jointly agreed on a certain number of EPG slots, so keep rotating them.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I really doubt that Global have requested that Gold Radio should be Gold Radio. on Virgin. After all, there is no full stop on the Sky service name. The DAB name doesn't help much as it is Gold Radio UK - again no full stop. Going to their internet streams, it is named Gold Radio and on Global Player, it is GOLD RADIO stylised in caps but, again, no full stop. Informally they still refer to it as Gold - so they don't seem too fussy about the new name yet.

FAST channels cycling through different "brands" hasn't happened much but is a thing on platforms such as Pluto, so can be expected on Virgin. The issue here is really Virgin holding prospective FAST channels in the background for months, without actually launching them. Probably some reason for it but I doubt anyone actually really cares. Catfish, like 5 Cops and CSI: New York are direct links from the 360 EPG to the Pluto FAST channels. Apparently, Virgin couldn't make these launch from the V6 red button slates, so they don't show up on the V6 any longer. Not a big issue, they are still available within the Pluto app on the V6, as they are on the 360 with many other channels available that aren't on the Virgin TV EPG.

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Placeholders for the old Box Plus / Box Network music channels and NDTV Good Times are due to be removed very shortly. If anyone has any recordings still to watch, time is running out.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

could be interesting if true. im sure people will have a wishlist of things they want!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I can’t find any reference to a major upgrade in October. Does this person who told you this work for Virgin or was this someone you met at a pub?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:
11 Kids channels start a free to view period for October.
The old Box Network channels and NGTV Good Times placeholders have been removed after protecting recordings for 93 days.
4 promotional rebrands / services reverting to their usual names following rebrands.

Further Info:
https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com
https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/virgin-media-o2-gives-tv-customers-access-to-hundreds-of-kids-shows-throughout-october-at-no-extra-cost-2/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The QVC+ app has been added today to my V6 Box.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I haven’t looked at it but the mention of this reminds me of the QVC shop on the Telewest boxes. Not that I ever used it to buy anything.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It seems to be a cut down version of the QVC+ on Freeview red button. The TV Guide just says to watch the channels via the Virgin Media TV Guide rather than streaming the channels. A shame really as Freeview has the German version of QVC's main channel, which is possibly an error but good for a laugh.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Create & Craft is NOT broadcast LIVE or taking orders tonight. Here is the latest information I have:

Companies House say Create & Craft was dissolved in July

Create & Craft has not been paying their suppliers.

Create & Craft postphones LIVE broadcasts until Tuesday.

Are Create & Craft doing a Seen on TV on us?

Are Create & Craft being took over?

Plus Eden will become U&Eden on October 16th.

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NDTV 24x7 will become NDTV World from October 7th.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that, it's just the remnants of the company that owned it in the Ideal World era. More interesting is that a new director has been appointed at Hochanda Global... today!

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Shopping Telly Forum says An insolvency practitioner has been appointed at Hochanda Global.

And Create & Craft supplier Tonic Studios has posted on FB page that C&C says they’ll be back Tuesday.

Shopping Telly Forum was on the ball with Seen on TV so things at Hochanda Global is looking bad.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

If they aren't insolvent, they need to start trading again fairly quickly. These things take time, so I doubt that we will find out what is actually happening for a while.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Overnight changes:
Hell's Kitchen & Egg Heads have now been moved to placeholder EPG slots.
Mythbusters & Tipping Point have been added to the NIT of 5 internal networks, moving closer to a possible launch.
1 movie channel with a promotional rebrand.
Further information:
https://ukcabletvchanges.blogspot.com

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Further info: previous appointments with other companies have described his occupation as "accountant" or "insolvency consultant".

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

@epsilon

I have found out that he had been appointed to 18 other companies boards in the past.

All of them is NOW status as Liquidation or Dissolved.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

As Eden becomes free on other platforms on 16/10/24, let's hope that Virgin, whose customers still have to effectively pay for it, make it available on all packages from this date.

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The kids channels (and TNT Sports & the Asian channels) used to be included in the top basic channel pack.

Then they made them add ons that customers had to pay for in order to continue receiving them.

If they expect people to be grateful that they've added them back for 4 weeks I think they're deluded. Of course, those who were daft enough to pay to continue to receive these channels won't be getting a refund whilst everyone else gets them for free!

Looks to me like take up has been low, so they're sporadically adding these channels back in the hope that kids will exert pester power to get their parents to cough up the extra money to keep them.

Slyness and manipulation is what I see rather than a freebie given out of the goodness of their heart for half term as they're trying to make out.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Although, that is to be expected when companies appoint an insolvency consultant as a director. As a director, they get to talk directly to an independent insolvency practitioner.

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They usually do, it's in the Mix pack anyway so not a big step to Mixit.

The correct term for "slyness and manipulation" is marketing. :D

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I have no problem with them attempting to upsell to adults eg free tasters of Sky Cinema or Sky Sports, but to remove kids channels unless an extra payment is made, then try to get children used to them again by offering sporadic free periods so that they will exert pester power on their parents (who may well not be able to afford it) is total manipulation and goes beyond the usual attempts to upsell that many companies undertake.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

As I keep saying, the price of the Kids pack is not too different from the discounted NOW TV entertainment pack which contains extra on-demand content, Sky Atlantic and has the Kids channels thrown in at no extra cost. I'm not sure that Virgin aren't shooting themselves in the foot with the Kids pack.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Sky charge £7 for Kids channels on Sky Q/Stream/Glass though, regularly giving away the first 3 months for free , hoping you will continue to subscribe or forget to cancel.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I took them up on the free period at the start of 2024. I didnt forget to cancel though ;)

I also took sky movies free for a similar offer, and cancelled that as well.
Interestingly, the movies came with free Paramount+, and that still works even though I cancelled the movies. :)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

True. Virgin started charging extra for the kids channels shortly after Sky started doing this.

The cheapest i've had Now Entertainment for is £1 a month and Now Cinema for free either as a retention deal or to tempt me to go back.

Anyone with Virgin or Sky would be better off using Now TV to bolster their package if they're not bothered about recording stuff.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

People used to complain they were paying for channels they would never use as they weren’t parents/grandparents or their kids had grown up. That was the logic of bringing in the separation.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

But the cost of the top packs didn't reduce as a result, they actually went up!

This reminds me, has the price of the top pack without TNT Sport reduced? I think I know the answer, but am curious to know for sure.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

On mix package, just looked at it's list , some channels I have never heard of , nothing missing from there that interests me at all. Seems two of the adult channels are included, find that surprising and if correct some what unwelcome. Not even going to check

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

They would have went up regardless of the change. That’s what prices do. The increase may have been more if they had remained, there’s no way to know, the decision to separate had been made, inspired by their market-leading competitor.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

is TNT Sports still in the top pack? i thought it was an extra addition now?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

It is. Sort of... (some users of legacy Maxit still have it, for now).

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Their 18 Month deals will end on March 1st 2025.

TNT Sports was remove from Maxit package on September 1st 2023.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

The TNT Sports codes were removed from Maxit but standalone TNT codes were then added for some Maxit customers. I guess if they keep refusing to renew their contracts they could keep it until Virgin decides to force a change.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Yep, Virgin copied Sky (again).

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This is an option, but the out of contract price probably costs more than the £18 extra that they want for TNT Sports as an add on.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Probably true but there are customers who just let their contract roll over every year without even thinking about negotiating a new one.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

And others who don’t want equipment replaced with a supposedly better model that comes as part of renewal, or lose a service that is part of their current services that isn’t available (or is but not under same circumstances) to new customers and they wouldn’t be able to move back to.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I've asked whether a new contract with a price reduction from the listed prices was conditional on a transfer to the 360 and was told that it wasn't, but that the agent may offer this.

In some cases (as per the Virgin Media Community Forum) people have been allowed to revert back to the V6 software.

Anyone who regrets changing over could always ask and, after getting the usual 'No can do' response, point out that this request has been honoured for some customers.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

And get a price cut :shocked:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Erm.. unlikely. Unless Virgin Media are feeling particularly benevolent, which is also unlikely...

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

In most cases a reversion is due to a customer being mislead into taking V360. If it was a customer initiated voluntary upgrade they are unlikely to succeed.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I know many on here prefer to just stick with what they have, but change is inevitable, and in this day and age, it’s happening quicker than ever before. We are all going to have to keep up.

This isn’t just happening to Virgin subscribers. EE-TV (previously BT) are having to contend with moving to Sky Glass. Sooner or later all those on the EE-TV package will have to move over, but it’s discretionary at the moment.

At some time in the not too distant future, Sky satellite subscribers will have to move over to Sky Glass as the satellites will be ditched in favour of IPTV.

Whichever system you choose, it won’t last forever.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I think you mean streaming, Sky Glass is just one option.

There is Sky Stream & Now - also, all the existing Sky Q systems will continue to work, they can still do streaming without satellites.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

But as stated before I DID no idea why but I ll take a discount of £25 per month anyway.:erm:

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

No we don’t. We can simply decide it’s not for us. We don’t have to accept every “advance”. I’m watching much less (it’s not the content), and I’m not going to adopt a technology for my entertainment if it doesn’t offer what I need. Most of the new tech is going backwards, removing features, flexibility and making it less easy to use whilst pretending to make it easier.

I’m more likely to ditch TV if they go the “wrong” way.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Create & Craft owner Hochanda Global did make filed for an application notice of intention to appoint an administrator on October 4th.

https://caseboard.io/cases/b1e2fff5-...W0-9ExUL7XKvNQ

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Ah, yes, we could just switch it off. A bit drastic for the sake of principle, but an option all the same.

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Yes, sorry, I meant Sky Stream.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I clearly didn’t get over what I meant to then OB, as what I was trying to get over was that I wouldn’t be choosing that because of principle, but because it made consumption of the content not worth the delivery hoops to jump through. Though there are decisions in life I will make solely on principle, I wouldn’t be making one about this one because of that alone. It usually takes multiple factors to make decisions.

I already don’t see lots of Disney content because I’m unwilling to use card info for certain services, so I only see their stuff if it’s on BBC or the like (so it’s old). And another TV provider I downgraded the tier as they wouldn’t allow payment on an existing and now discontinued (to new customers) tier via the payment method being used, even though they will still allow it on both the tier below and tiers above!

Yet another provider of services changed the level I originally signed up for so much that I cancelled. Not that long after they closed that service entirely, so it seems the customers like me thought they were changing too much.

I enjoy TV and films, but if the method of delivery isn’t close to what suits what I need, there are other content providers to take the money. Or I can be patient and wait for it to get old enough to get offered elsewhere. I will find different content from other places, I won’t just stop everything. Not all providers of content will make the same unpalatable changes, or they will offer enough flexibility/options, so the chances of it being a No TV household are very small.

And as my absence from these forums, and elsewhere, these days shows, I have other things happening in my life that I’m more than happy to devote time to now. I probably consumed too much televisual entertainment, but I still have the same delivery preferences and enjoyment of content.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Fair enough, cheeky.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

This is basic supply and demand. Customers won't simply have to go with the flow and accept whatever they are offered. If Virgin withdraw features, other suppliers will, most likely, step in to meet the demand. Virgin's loss will be their gain.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

alibi and Gold become U&alibi and U&Gold on 7th November now being advertised.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Exactly, and if they don't, i'll consider scrapping pay TV altogether.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Probably not until 2030 though , the contract was recently extended although noticeably only by 1 year , from the end of 2028 to the end of 2029.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2024/sky-extend...ce-until-2029/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

They could only really extend it by a year as thats when the satellites reach their official End of Life.
Anything beyond that would require new satellites, or hope that the existing ones dont immediately fail.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I don't know who you think would go down that route, given the unstoppable shift towards streaming. Sky won't go there, nor will EE (BT that was) - even Talk Talk is keeping up with the times. So what company did you have in mind?

It's not going to happen, epsilon.

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That sounds like cutting your nose off to spite your face. Surely, this is all about content, not an 'undelete' function or whatever it is that keeps you wedded to the TiVo.

Freely is not going to bridge that gap, so a move to ditch pay TV for the reason you gave seems rather illogical to me.

However, horses for courses....

---------- Post added at 08:52 ---------- Previous post was at 08:51 ----------

Agreed.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Do you actually read what people are saying on this thread? Your opinions aren't shared by everyone. Just because you feel that there is an "unstoppable shift towards streaming" doesn't mean that it is actually the case. Sure, for you that's what has happened (somewhat). Not for everyone. EE are also "keeping up with the times" by exiting the market apparently (ditto for Talk Talk). Maybe Virgin will be next.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Yes, of course I see what people are saying.The last time I looked, this was a discussion forum.

I am telling you what I see, and I explain my comments. The response I seem to be getting is - that’s not what some people want. I get that, but they won’t prevent it from happening regardless.

I completely understand your point of view.I see why you draw these conclusions. However, I am not persuaded.

EE is throwing everything in with Sky, and guess what, Sky is not renewing its satellite licences beyond 2030. Same for Talk Talk. We are all moving over to IPTV, even if we don’t subscribe to Pay TV. The consumer won’t have a choice, whatever their preference.

Will the channels survive the change? Well, possibly, but in the long term I have no doubt everything will be on demand.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I have just been on Create & Craft web site and found that it been updated with 'Clearance while stocks Last'

So look like once an administrator has been appointed - Create & Craft LIVE broadcasts will return.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2024/freeview-s...other-channel/

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Oh good I'm overjoyed. Do love my knitting :)

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

I would be surprised if that were to happen, MB. These small channels are operating on a shoestring, and Create and Craft has considerable debts. They are hoping to sell their EPG space to another, but frankly, I think Freeview is going to have increasing difficulties in filling the EPG due to diminishing advertisement returns resulting from lower audience numbers.

Expect more channels going to the wall or being closed in favour of streaming only over the coming months.

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Why did Tiny Pop return to other network for then if streaming THAT good?

Re: Virgin TV (2024)
 

Of course you explain your comments, you keep having to explain your comments because people don't agree with you. Is EE really "throwing everything in with Sky"? it looks as if they are exiting the TV business and simply retailing Sky. Comcast is, primarily, a cable company. Hardly surprising that Satellite isn't the best fit for them in the long term.

It doesn't matter if you are persuaded by my "conclusions", if a service provider keeps withdrawing parts of the service, the customer will eventually say, "that's it, no more". It seems to be the way things are going with Virgin.

Sure, it's a discussion forum but you insist on preaching that your vision of the streaming future is the only way forward. Despite people telling you they don't want that.

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The Create & Craft streaming apps on smart tvs and all major streaming platforms don't seem to have helped them very much...