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vincerooney 25-07-2023 00:26

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 36157069)
Just so you know, from 1st August, you won’t be able to watch Channel 4 shows on demand by going back in the TV Guide or from the Catch Up folders – but they’ll be back up and running soon.

The good news is, there are easier ways to find your favourites in the meantime.

Here are a few ways to do it:

1. Press the Search button and enter the name of the show you want to watch
2. Press the Mic button on your remote and say the name of the show you want to watch
3. Launch the Channel 4 app in Apps
4. Press the Mic button on your remote and say ‘Channel 4 app’

The Channel 4 app has ad breaks, which can’t be skipped without a Channel 4+ account.

Vm email

whats going on...whys it temporary?

Rillington 25-07-2023 10:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 36157069)
Just so you know, from 1st August, you won’t be able to watch Channel 4 shows on demand by going back in the TV Guide or from the Catch Up folders – but they’ll be back up and running soon.

The good news is, there are easier ways to find your favourites in the meantime.

Here are a few ways to do it:

1. Press the Search button and enter the name of the show you want to watch
2. Press the Mic button on your remote and say the name of the show you want to watch
3. Launch the Channel 4 app in Apps
4. Press the Mic button on your remote and say ‘Channel 4 app’

The Channel 4 app has ad breaks, which can’t be skipped without a Channel 4+ account.

Vm email

I presume this means that Channel 4 catch-up will not be available to TV only customers?

OLD BOY 25-07-2023 19:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 36157099)
I presume this means that Channel 4 catch-up will not be available to TV only customers?

Do you not have the Channel 4 app (previously ‘All4’)? That will contain all your catch up shows. As I understand it, even the basic VM package has that.

epsilon 25-07-2023 20:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157119)
Do you not have the Channel 4 app (previously ‘All4’)? That will contain all your catch up shows. As I understand it, even the basic VM package has that.

TV only customers use the legacy Tivo which doesn't have the Channel 4 app. When similar changes were made to ITV on demand content, legacy Tivo boxes continued to list ITV content in their on demand sections. It remains to be seen whether or not this will be repeated for Channel 4 content.

OLD BOY 25-07-2023 23:58

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Thank you for clarifying that, epsilon. Those old boxes are becoming next to useless with time.

Mr K 26-07-2023 11:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157173)
Thank you for clarifying that, epsilon. Those old boxes are becoming next to useless with time.

I'll take my old Tivo over a 360 anyday :)

Legendkiller2k 26-07-2023 13:48

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From 28th this month Sky customers can get lionsgate+ free for 3 months, also ongoing there'll be a selection of shows free for SKY subscribers to watch even if they're not subscribed to lionsgate+, shows such as power book II the first season are included.
I don't know if the same will happen on VM as of yet though.

Itshim 26-07-2023 17:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36157228)
From 28th this month Sky customers can get lionsgate+ free for 3 months, also ongoing there'll be a selection of shows free for SKY subscribers to watch even if they're not subscribed to lionsgate+, shows such as power book II the first season are included.
I don't know if the same will happen on VM as of yet though.

Suggesting it's not do that well :erm:

TimeLord2018 26-07-2023 17:24

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It was closed down In European countries e.g Germany and Italy , Starz/Lionsgate owned content (which doesn't include Outlander) to Amazon who launched MGM+

Some of ongoing Starz Originals Lionsgate own have been removed from the service aswell...

Legendkiller2k 26-07-2023 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36157261)
It was closed down In European countries and Starz/Lionsgate owned content (which doesn't include Outlander) to Amazon who launched MGM+

Some of ongoing Starz Originals Lionsgate own have been removed from the service aswell...

It is literally on SKY mr know it all, stop acting like you know everything because it's getting tedious and annoying now.

TimeLord2018 26-07-2023 18:28

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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36157259)
Suggesting it's not do that well :erm:

I think It was £2.99 per month for 24 months unless cancelled on Lionsgate+ website back in May, withdrawing from 7 major markets including Germany and Italy which are Sky territories doesn't really look good.

Legendkiller2k 26-07-2023 18:56

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36157268)
I think It was £2.99 per month for 24 months unless cancelled on Lionsgate+ website back in May, withdrawing from 7 major markets including Germany and Italy which are Sky territories doesn't really look good.

My apoligies to you for my earlier reply to you i completely mis-understood what you was saying and i apologise for that.

OLD BOY 26-07-2023 19:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36157212)
I'll take my old Tivo over a 360 anyday :)

It won’t be much use to you if it doesn’t work any more.

SonicMaster 26-07-2023 20:09

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Virgin Media has got in a right muddle with their Personal Picks PDF...

https://www.virginmedia.com/content/..._August_23.pdf

They've got MTV HD listed as being on channel 280 for viewers with the Entertainment & Lifestyle package. 280 is MTV Music.

MTV HD should be listed on 134 in the Entertainment & Lifestyle package.

They have Dave HD listed in all the Entertainment picks but it's actually now available without paying for these. Similar with W HD - listed as being in the Entertainment & Drama pick, but again it isn't necessary to subscribe to that pick to receive it.

Sky Kids listed on channel 707 should be Sky Kids HD.

There may be more errors!

Media Boy UK 31-07-2023 16:24

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Just got a funny PM from a Source with a following:

Quote:

There will be a new birth for V6, Stream and 360 boxes in the early hours tomorrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qiP3KxEFpo

OLD BOY 31-07-2023 16:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36157664)
Just got a funny PM from a Source with a following:

It’s probably just the new FAST channels.

Media Boy UK 31-07-2023 17:19

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157666)
It’s probably just the new FAST channels.

My Source has just confirmed that 14 FAST channels are launching tomorrow

They think it will be as listed on Advanced Television on July 28th.

https://advanced-television.com/2023...fast-channels/

If so here are they channel numbers:

*Inside Crime UK - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 220.
*Real Wild - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 221.
*Mystery TV - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 222.
*HauntTV - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 223.
*History Hit - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 224.
*Homes under the Hammer - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 230.
*Great British Menu - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 231.
*Tastemade - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 232.
*NextUp Live Comedy - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 242.
*The Chat Show Channel - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 243.
*Baywatch - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 244.
*Deal or no Deal USA - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 250.
*Fear Factor - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 251.
*Wipeout Xtra - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 252.

The will following by end of August base on my info:

-CSI will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 215.
-Judge Judy - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 216.
-5 Cops - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 217.
-Wicked Tuna - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 225.
-Grace and Frankie - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 240.
-Anger Management - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 241.

All channels listed on this post will not launch on TiVo boxes.

vincerooney 31-07-2023 17:37

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Not launch on all TiVo boxes or just the original TiVo box and will launch on v6s?

TimeLord2018 31-07-2023 17:39

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All Virgin TV customers according to press release
https://news.virginmediao2.co.uk/vir...fast-channels/

Media Boy UK 31-07-2023 18:38

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36157669)
Not launch on all TiVo boxes or just the original TiVo box and will launch on v6s?

To stop some people getting mix up I will always say:

TiVo (Virgin will call it original TiVo)
V6

vincerooney 01-08-2023 02:22

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you have to hit the red button to launch these...the info isn't on the EPG guide....this is one of the most pointless things ever haha

ok its actually quite quick but for the non specific channels the lack of epg means youre launching it just to see whats on

ozsat 01-08-2023 07:02

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The 360 auto loads the channels - but you still have to wait for the load to occur to see the programme details.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36157689)
you have to hit the red button to launch these...the info isn't on the EPG guide....this is one of the most pointless things ever haha

ok its actually quite quick but for the non specific channels the lack of epg means youre launching it just to see whats on


SonicMaster 01-08-2023 09:43

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I've got the 14 slates on my V6 and I can access the channels when I press red. Once you've loaded a channel you can't use the channel up/down buttons to switch, and have to exit then navigate to another and press red again. It's far too clunky on the V6. The quality of the content is probably the bigger issue.

Media Boy UK 01-08-2023 13:26

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Base on reports on DS Forum:

Listings indicate CITV will close at 2100 on the evening of 1 September 2023.

(I would have pick August 31st to close CITV)

epsilon 01-08-2023 16:31

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36157668)
The will following by end of August base on my info:

-CSI will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 215.
-Judge Judy - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 216.
-5 Cops - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 217.
-Wicked Tuna - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 225.
-Grace and Frankie - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 240.
-Anger Management - will launch soon on Virgin UK Channel 241.

All channels listed on this post will not launch on TiVo boxes.

Apparently, the 6 channels mentioned in your list, along with "The Lego Channel" were removed from Virgin's internal networks last night but the channel names weren't removed from the SDT. More of a roll back than progress so it will be interesting to see how this progresses.

ozsat 01-08-2023 17:04

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'The Lego Channel' seems to have been removed from Pluto - where it used to be.

---------- Post added at 17:04 ---------- Previous post was at 16:41 ----------

The press listings for 'CITV' were sent out last week and so list 'Channel no longer available' from 9pm on 1st September.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36157708)
Base on reports on DS Forum:

Listings indicate CITV will close at 2100 on the evening of 1 September 2023.

(I would have pick August 31st to close CITV)


epsilon 01-08-2023 17:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36157716)
'The Lego Channel' seems to have been removed from Pluto - where it used to be.

Yes and unlike the other FAST channels wasn't actually added as a video slate. (per digitalbitrate.com). With FAST channels coming and going relatively frequently, adding them to other genres is going to be tricky.

Media Boy UK 01-08-2023 20:18

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36157714)
Apparently, the 6 channels mentioned in your list, along with "The Lego Channel" were removed from Virgin's internal networks last night but the channel names weren't removed from the SDT. More of a roll back than progress so it will be interesting to see how this progresses.

That news to me so thanks for heads up mate.

1701-e 01-08-2023 20:44

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I saw something about the other FAST channels have to have ofcom licenses and Virgin media are requesting those. The content may suggest PIN protection.

epsilon 01-08-2023 21:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36157749)
I saw something about the other FAST channels have to have ofcom licenses and Virgin media are requesting those. The content may suggest PIN protection.

As far as I can remember the EPG PIN option wasn't enabled for the FAST channels.

jfman 01-08-2023 21:55

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36157689)
you have to hit the red button to launch these...the info isn't on the EPG guide....this is one of the most pointless things ever haha

Welcome to the glorious streaming future!

OLD BOY 01-08-2023 23:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36157760)
Welcome to the glorious streaming future!

They are not the streaming future. They are a flash in the pan.

I’d love to see the viewing figures when the dust settles.

denphone 02-08-2023 06:06

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157771)
They are not the streaming future. They are a flash in the pan.

I’d love to see the viewing figures when the dust settles.

The problem is OB is you see the future but its not as you know it or thought it....;)

OLD BOY 02-08-2023 08:19

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36157774)
The problem is OB is you see the future but its not as you know it or thought it....;)

Actually, everything is going to plan so far, even with the slower than expected broadband rollout. Anyway, let's not replay the arguments on here, just sit back and watch.

Hugh 02-08-2023 10:09

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157775)
Actually, everything is going to plan so far, even with the slower than expected broadband rollout. Anyway, let's not replay the arguments on here, just sit back and watch.

https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2023/08/1.gif

Forbes disagree...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbest...h=34fbcad51c72

Quote:

What This Means For The Future Of Television

Industry conversations and developments tell us that many streaming platforms will go the way of CuriosityStream, abandoning the subscription model in favor of FAST across as many platforms as possible, driving revenue on existing content libraries. The unit economics of a $5 to $10 subscription doesn't make much sense if, on average, you are paying $50 to $75 to acquire a subscriber and they churn out in six to nine months.

The model provides a lot of opportunities for content providers and platforms but also challenges. Platforms are once again having to plan programming rather than letting consumers simply select on demand. It also assumes that consumers will continue to have an appetite for whatever content is programmed. It's important to remember that on-demand options surged for a reason.

Conclusion
Consumer viewing habits have continued to develop as streaming options and models have advanced. With the rise of FAST, consumers are getting free content (via ad exposure), content providers are getting new revenue channels and platforms are getting more content to engage users.

When factoring in the options and content that now exist in the streaming universe—such as subscriptions that deliver original content and blockbuster movies on demand, live news or sports, and FAST channels—the landscape has undoubtedly changed and will continue to do so as the rise of new options like FAST channels aims to offer consumers exactly what they want.
https://advanced-television.com/2023...20in%20revenue.

Quote:

Free ad-supported streaming TV (FAST) channel revenue grew almost 20 times between 2019 and 2022, and is set to triple between 2022 and 2027 to reach $12 billion (€11.9bn) according to research from analyst firm Omdia.

FAST channels are increasing rapidly with more than 1,500 channels already available in the US, according to Omdia.
Flash in the pan?

OLD BOY 02-08-2023 13:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36157778)


Flash in the pan?

We’ll see, but I’ve yet to meet anyone who watches them. Maybe they will improve with better material and choice being offered over time, but that doesn’t alter my prediction about our main broadcast channels going streaming only. Of course, that is predicated by the expectation that industry drives this. If governments interfere, obviously things may change, but there is no sign of that yet.

Here comes another FAST Channel…

https://advanced-television.com/2023...-media-launch/

Comedy-on-demand streaming service NextUp has partnered with sports and entertainment programmer EXTREME to be available as a FAST channel on Virgin Media in the UK.

The linear ad-supported channel NextUp Live Comedy features its best stand-up comedy content including livestreams from the Edinburgh Fringe Comedy Festival throughout August, offering Virgin Media TV customers with TV 360, Stream or a V6 box access to hours of entertainment at no extra cost. NextUp is also working with EXTREME to launch its FAST channels on further platforms later in August.

MatthewEastaugh 02-08-2023 13:56

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It's not 'another' one - NextUp is one of the fourteen added the other day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36157668)
My Source has just confirmed that 14
*Inside Crime UK - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 220.
*Real Wild - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 221.
*Mystery TV - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 222.
*HauntTV - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 223.
*History Hit - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 224.
*Homes under the Hammer - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 230.
*Great British Menu - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 231.
*Tastemade - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 232.
*NextUp Live Comedy - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 242.
*The Chat Show Channel - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 243.
*Baywatch - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 244.
*Deal or no Deal USA - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 250.
*Fear Factor - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 251.
*Wipeout Xtra - is set to launch on Virgin UK Channel 252.


OLD BOY 02-08-2023 13:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewEastaugh (Post 36157793)
It's not 'another' one - NextUp is one of the fourteen added the other day.

Thanks.

Hugh 02-08-2023 14:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157790)
We’ll see, but I’ve yet to meet anyone who watches them. Maybe they will improve with better material and choice being offered over time, but that doesn’t alter my prediction about our main broadcast channels going streaming only. Of course, that is predicated by the expectation that industry drives this. If governments interfere, obviously things may change, but there is no sign of that yet.

Here comes another FAST Channel…

https://advanced-television.com/2023...-media-launch/

Comedy-on-demand streaming service NextUp has partnered with sports and entertainment programmer EXTREME to be available as a FAST channel on Virgin Media in the UK.

The linear ad-supported channel NextUp Live Comedy features its best stand-up comedy content including livestreams from the Edinburgh Fringe Comedy Festival throughout August, offering Virgin Media TV customers with TV 360, Stream or a V6 box access to hours of entertainment at no extra cost. NextUp is also working with EXTREME to launch its FAST channels on further platforms later in August.

Does your prediction about streaming include the streaming format mix - what mixture of linear/on-demand do you foresee?

50/50 (OD/linear). 75/25 (OD/linear), or ??/??

jfman 02-08-2023 14:49

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“I’ve never met anyone”

The final haven of anecdotal evidence. TV ratings since the beginning of widespread digital TV would demonstrate the vast, vast majority of people don’t watch the vast, vast majority of it. Why? The market is saturated.

It’d be as pointless as saying “I’ve never met anyone who has watched” the vast majority of any of the content on any streaming provider. Why? The market is also saturated.

The question is who is running a sustainable business model.

OLD BOY 02-08-2023 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36157798)
Does your prediction about streaming include the streaming format mix - what mixture of linear/on-demand do you foresee?

50/50 (OD/linear). 75/25 (OD/linear), or ??/??

I think it is most likely that all the channels that each broadcaster owns will morph under the one banner - BBC, ITV, etc and all on demand. That would be the most straight forward thing for them to do and I have said so all along since 2015.

I don’t discount that they may offer a scheduled service at the time the changeover commences (ie the switch off of transmitter-broadcast TV) as a means of assisting the transition, but it is more likely, in my view, that they will grasp the opportunity to go for on demand only unless forced to do otherwise by the government.

---------- Post added at 15:29 ---------- Previous post was at 15:23 ----------

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36157801)
“I’ve never met anyone”

The final haven of anecdotal evidence. TV ratings since the beginning of widespread digital TV would demonstrate the vast, vast majority of people don’t watch the vast, vast majority of it. Why? The market is saturated.

It’d be as pointless as saying “I’ve never met anyone who has watched” the vast majority of any of the content on any streaming provider. Why? The market is also saturated.

The question is who is running a sustainable business model.

Well, I haven’t met anyone who has heard of FAST channels or know what I am talking about when I mention Pluto TV.

Yes, I’m sure that some people will watch FAST channels, particularly if they don’t subscribe to a streamer, and as long as the owners of the FAST channels make enough money from advertising, they will continue to operate. I guess they wouldn’t need that many people to view to make it worthwhile.

I don’t think the bigger broadcasters will see it that way, though.

None of us will know until it happens. I’m just expressing a point of view - one that I have held for early 10 years now. I accept that others may disagree.

Hugh 02-08-2023 16:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157804)
I think it is most likely that all the channels that each broadcaster owns will morph under the one banner - BBC, ITV, etc and all on demand. That would be the most straight forward thing for them to do and I have said so all along since 2015.

I don’t discount that they may offer a scheduled service at the time the changeover commences (ie the switch off of transmitter-broadcast TV) as a means of assisting the transition, but it is more likely, in my view, that they will grasp the opportunity to go for on demand only unless forced to do otherwise by the government.

---------- Post added at 15:29 ---------- Previous post was at 15:23 ----------



Well, I haven’t met anyone who has heard of FAST channels or know what I am talking about when I mention Pluto TV.

Yes, I’m sure that some people will watch FAST channels, particularly if they don’t subscribe to a streamer, and as long as the owners of the FAST channels make enough money from advertising, they will continue to operate. I guess they wouldn’t need that many people to view to make it worthwhile.

I don’t think the bigger broadcasters will see it that way, though.

None of us will know until it happens. I’m just expressing a point of view - one that I have held for early 10 years now. I accept that others may disagree.

Do you mean like Roku, Paramount's (CBS) Pluto, Fox's Tubi, Comcast's Xumo, or Amazon’s Freeview?

ozsat 02-08-2023 20:06

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But no doubt many will have heard of ITVX? They may not have heard of FAST channels - but ITVX has them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157804)
Well, I haven’t met anyone who has heard of FAST channels or know what I am talking about when I mention Pluto TV.


OLD BOY 02-08-2023 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36157824)
But no doubt many will have heard of ITVX? They may not have heard of FAST channels - but ITVX has them.

ITVX is fine, and is not a part of my debate

---------- Post added at 22:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:45 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36157808)
Do you mean like Roku, Paramount's (CBS) Pluto, Fox's Tubi, Comcast's Xumo, or Amazon’s Freeview?

Actually I was talking about the likes of BBC, ITV, Sky, etc, which you probably know I was talking about. Not the more obscure channels which more obsessive people on here are into.

Sorry to you. Hugh, it you need to burst that bubble you are into.

Hugh 02-08-2023 22:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157831)
ITVX is fine, and is not a part of my debate

---------- Post added at 22:13 ---------- Previous post was at 21:45 ----------



Actually I was talking about the likes of BBC, ITV, Sky, etc, which you probably know I was talking about. Not the more obscure channels which more obsessive people on here are into.

Sorry to you. Hugh, it you need to burst that bubble you are into.

I quote
Quote:

I don’t think the bigger broadcasters will see it that way, though.
Are you stating that Amazon, Paramount/CBS, Fox, NBC/Universal, & Comcast aren’t some of the, to use your words, "biggest broadcasters"?

So you were talking about the likes of ITV, but when someone mentions ITVX’s FAST channels, they are "not part of your debate"?

OLD BOY 03-08-2023 09:53

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We are at cross purposes because we are conflating two different subjects - the FAST channels on one hand and the broadcasters like the Beeb and ITV on the other.

My point is simply that the myriad of traditional broadcast channels (ie those published in the TV magazines) are likely to present all their programmes under one banner in the future and would not be divided up into individual channels as now (ITV1,2,3,4) and so on.

The FAST channels are a relatively new phenomenon that tend to be subject related (eg Baywatch, Friends, etc). While I agree that these FAST channels will continue to exist if operators can make money out of them, I believe the main channels that we watch now will simply be streamed under one banner. That’s all I’m saying.

We are currently in a transitional period, but once the broadcasting is switched to online only there will be no point in carrying on with categorising programmes in that way. The big streamers of course categorise their offerings by programme type, eg new releases, dramas, etc and not by labels such as Netflix 1, Netflix 2, and so on.

So while for example you can still look up your programmes by channel at present, as you can on ITVX and the BBCi-Player, I don’t think the broadcasters will display their content in that way after the transmitters are no longer used for TV.

The FAST channels are likely to continue to exist for the foreseeable future.

jfman 03-08-2023 11:14

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Linear channels delivered over the internet then?

epsilon 03-08-2023 11:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36157858)
We are at cross purposes because we are conflating two different subjects - the FAST channels on one hand and the broadcasters like the Beeb and ITV on the other.

My point is simply that the myriad of traditional broadcast channels (ie those published in the TV magazines) are likely to present all their programmes under one banner in the future and would not be divided up into individual channels as now (ITV1,2,3,4) and so on.

TV magazines in which country? Maybe we could simplify that and just say the ones that people you know have heard of..

Quote:

The FAST channels are a relatively new phenomenon that tend to be subject related (eg Baywatch, Friends, etc). While I agree that these FAST channels will continue to exist if operators can make money out of them, I believe the main channels that we watch now will simply be streamed under one banner. That’s all I’m saying.
The ones we are seeing at the moment but there are thousands of them globally and not all of them are meant for bingeing on a single show.

Quote:

We are currently in a transitional period, but once the broadcasting is switched to online only there will be no point in carrying on with categorising programmes in that way. The big streamers of course categorise their offerings by programme type, eg new releases, dramas, etc and not by labels such as Netflix 1, Netflix 2, and so on.

So while for example you can still look up your programmes by channel at present, as you can on ITVX and the BBCi-Player, I don’t think the broadcasters will display their content in that way after the transmitters are no longer used for TV.

The FAST channels are likely to continue to exist for the foreseeable future.
So, put simply, it doesn't fit in with your vision of the path to 2035 so is doomed to failure?

jfman 03-08-2023 15:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36157868)
TV magazines in which country? Maybe we could simplify that and just say the ones that people you know have heard of..

The ones we are seeing at the moment but there are thousands of them globally and not all of them are meant for bingeing on a single show.

So, put simply, it doesn't fit in with your vision of the path to 2035 so is doomed to failure?

Hang on he might be onto something with this new definition. If “linear tv” relies upon the existence of TV magazines, and those go out of business, there’s no more linear TV. :rofl:

SonicMaster 05-08-2023 00:42

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What to watch in Ultra HD this August

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...tra-hd-channel

Quote:

This month on the Virgin TV Ultra HD Channel (CH 175/999), the UK’s first and only dedicated Ultra HD channel, you can see the world in super-sharp Ultra High Definition with incredible movies and documentaries. Experience the stunning urban landscapes of New York in the thriller Premium Rush and Paris in the inventive biopic Julie & Julia, or enjoy a slice of colourful small-town life in Big Fish.

Travel through the African savannah in Elephants Up Close and view Antarctica in a new way in Dancing On Icebergs. And from ancient hunting grounds to modern farms, it’s a real feast for the eyes in The History Of Food.

You can get the absolute best picture quality of any TV channel in the UK on Virgin TV Ultra HD, watching superb drama series, films, documentaries and more in stunning, pixel-perfect UHD.

SonicMaster 06-08-2023 11:36

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I'm sure it's already been pointed out, but 8 of these 14 'new' FAST channels were actually already available on VM via the Pluto TV app:

- Inside Crime
- Mystery TV
- Homes Under The Hammer
- Great British Menu
- Fear Factor
- Wipeout
- Haunt TV
- Baywatch

gilburton 07-08-2023 12:55

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Flicked through the "new" fast channels and what a load of old crap.
Seems to me Virgin are just desperate to fill up space with any old rubbish especially with the loss of TCM.
Not really impressed with Pluto either as it seems to be all US programmes that I've never heard of.
Yes it's all free but ,as with 3d, rubbish is rubbish in whatever format.
To me Virgin needs some "proper" movie channels to replace TCM.
I remember years ago when 24hr tv was proposed and it was predicted that quality would suffer.
They were correct.

OLD BOY 07-08-2023 13:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gilburton (Post 36158063)
Flicked through the "new" fast channels and what a load of old crap.
Seems to me Virgin are just desperate to fill up space with any old rubbish especially with the loss of TCM.
Not really impressed with Pluto either as it seems to be all US programmes that I've never heard of.
Yes it's all free but ,as with 3d, rubbish is rubbish in whatever format.
To me Virgin needs some "proper" movie channels to replace TCM.
I remember years ago when 24hr tv was proposed and it was predicted that quality would suffer.
They were correct.

I’m glad someone agrees with me on this. All the FAST channels I’ve looked at are low quality programmes with advertisements thrown in. The ads appear to be of better quality than the programmes themselves.

I maintain my view that they are a flash in the pan, although the fact that so many people are happy with watching dumbed down material is frankly worrying, so who knows?

Media Boy UK 15-08-2023 15:58

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Warner Bros Discovery new Virgin Media deal update:

My Sources has just told me that Warner Bros Discovery are not happy with the money being offered by Virgin Media that is on the table for the new deal to be signed and Warner Bros Discovery are ready to walk away.

gilburton 15-08-2023 16:19

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Well if Discovery channels go it'll be back to Freeview when my contract runs out..

Frazz 15-08-2023 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36158645)
Warner Bros Discovery new Virgin Media deal update:

My Sources has just told me that Warner Bros Discovery are not happen with the money being offered by Virgin Media that is on the table for the new deal to be signed and Warner Bros Discovery are ready to walk away.

Virgin media fleece you with the prices they charge, if they want to retain customers they need to keep the channel carriage deals they have and not replace them with crap

OLD BOY 15-08-2023 17:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 36158651)
Virgin media fleece you with the prices they charge, if they want to retain customers they need to keep the channel carriage deals they have and not replace them with crap

I am very pleased with my deal, and at least in my experience, I find VM cheaper than Sky.

My only concern really is that we don’t have Apple+ and Discovery+ yer. I’m no longer worried about Sky Atlantic. They just don’t seem to be getting the shows these days, so I’m cancelling NOW (TV).

Look before you leap, Frazz.

1701-e 15-08-2023 17:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36158654)
My only concern really is that we don’t have Apple+ and Discovery+ yer..

What's on Discovery plus that isn't on VM maxit package?

I reckon this is the usual business posturing . No need to make any decisions yet on suppliers.

The TNT sports deal is the big one for next year.

TimeLord2018 15-08-2023 18:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frazz (Post 36158651)
Virgin media fleece you with the prices they charge, if they want to retain customers they need to keep the channel carriage deals they have and not replace them with crap

Assuming it's about channel carriage alone and not Discovery+ and cost of including it into Virgin TV packages.

RichardCoulter 15-08-2023 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36158654)
I am very pleased with my deal, and at least in my experience, I find VM cheaper than Sky.

My only concern really is that we don’t have Apple+ and Discovery+ yer. I’m no longer worried about Sky Atlantic. They just don’t seem to be getting the shows these days, so I’m cancelling NOW (TV).

Look before you leap, Frazz.

To find out if they are cheaper people have to factor in what they're paying for the streaming services that are free on Sky & the cost of Now TV. In order to get Sky Atlantic (if you want these).

epsilon 16-08-2023 07:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36157744)
That news to me so thanks for heads up mate.

3 of them have been renamed, given different EPG slots and added back to a couple of internal networks. The new names should be visible on digitalbitrate.com.

Legendkiller2k 16-08-2023 14:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36158671)
To find out if they are cheaper people have to factor in what they're paying for the streaming services that are free on Sky & the cost of Now TV. In order to get Sky Atlantic (if you want these).

At the moment with SKY stream i'm paying £30p/m for entertainment, netflix, discovery+, cinema, paramount+ and ad skipping, sometimes it pays to ask if there are any offers available.
Sport as most of you know i get via other methods not illegal but grey area.

Media Boy UK 16-08-2023 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36158645)
Warner Bros Discovery new Virgin Media deal update:

My Sources has just told me that Warner Bros Discovery are not happy with the money being offered by Virgin Media that is on the table for the new deal to be signed and Warner Bros Discovery are ready to walk away.

UPDATE - The following channels brands may close soon on Virgin MedIa if Warner Bros Discovery walk away:

*Really
*Quest
*TLC
*ID
*Quest Red
*DMAX
*Discovery Channel
*Animal Planet
*Discovery Science
*Discovery Turbo
*Discovery History
*Food Network
*HGTV
*Eurosport
*TNT Sports
*Cartoon Network
*Cartoonito
*Boomerang

Itshim 16-08-2023 17:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36158717)
UPDATE - The following channels brands may close soon on Virgin MedIa if Warner Bros Discovery walk away:

*Really
*Quest
*TLC
*ID
*Quest Red
*DMAX
*Discovery Channel
*Animal Planet
*Discovery Science
*Discovery Turbo
*Discovery History
*Food Network
*HGTV
*Eurosport
*TNT Sports
*Cartoon Network
*Cartoonito
*Boomerang

Wow what a price cut coming :rolleyes:

007stuart 16-08-2023 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gilburton (Post 36158648)
Well if Discovery channels go it'll be back to Freeview when my contract runs out..

Yes me too, I'm watching more and more programmes in streaming apps. Time to ditch VM

TimeLord2018 16-08-2023 17:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Perhaps they should get rid all of the Discovery non sport channels and just pay for Discovery+ app to be included , although I am not sure if WBD would agree to that.

Cartoon Network went HD only in January and into lower TV packages with the SD version removed so can't see that going.

gilburton 16-08-2023 18:23

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I do watch a lot of Discovery and Eurosport/TNT sports so basically Freeview along with Prime and the diccovery+ app at £30 will be enough for me. It'll be less than I pay now but it depends on the Broadband.I'm on 500mbs but that could be really cut back as I don't download much
I'm on the monthly package now so I can leave anytime.
If Virgin do lose these channels then they have to actually drop prices.
I'll wait and see what happens. These new Fast channels have no appeal whatsover. It's junk tv.

Dingbat 16-08-2023 19:39

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If Eurosport, TNT, and Quest go, then I probably will ditch VM and go back to Sky. And if Food Network goes with them, my wife will be in total agreement with that decision.

Or is this WBD and VM playing some sort of brinkmanship game?

OLD BOY 16-08-2023 20:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36158656)
What's on Discovery plus that isn't on VM maxit package?

I reckon this is the usual business posturing . No need to make any decisions yet on suppliers.

The TNT sports deal is the big one for next year.

A lot more is coming, but for the moment, you get all the archived stuff and you sometimes get the box set whereas the TV channel gets you programmes a week at a time.

For me, a plus would be that it would be one step closer to getting Virgin Stream.

jfman 16-08-2023 20:32

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What’s going to end up on Virgin Stream that isn’t going to be on a V6?

OLD BOY 16-08-2023 20:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36158671)
To find out if they are cheaper people have to factor in what they're paying for the streaming services that are free on Sky & the cost of Now TV. In order to get Sky Atlantic (if you want these).

That’s right. However, I think Sky Atlantic is a spent force now. At the end of my current knock down deal, I’m cancelling it because it’s no better than other Sky channels now, which are mainly junk.

---------- Post added at 20:37 ---------- Previous post was at 20:33 ----------

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36158741)
What’s going to end up on Virgin Stream that isn’t going to be on a V6?

The point of it is, you won’t be paying for loads of channels you don’t want.

jfman 16-08-2023 21:40

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You pay for content you don’t watch wherever you go. It’s a red herring.

If you really wanted to bin Virgin, you could. But don’t.

TMLeafs 16-08-2023 21:55

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Not sure if this has been said but TNT Sports Ultimate is broadcasting in HDR right now, seems to be better than skys, though the logo is very bright

RichardCoulter 16-08-2023 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36158720)
Wow what a price cut coming :rolleyes:

When the UKTV channels were removed Virgin refused to cut subscription prices and started getting awkward when customers wanted to leave, so Ofcom had to get involved.

TimeLord2018 16-08-2023 22:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLeafs (Post 36158755)
Not sure if this has been said but TNT Sports Ultimate is broadcasting in HDR right now, seems to be better than skys, though the logo is very bright

Yes it was upgraded to HDR on 31st July, It was only SDR on Virgin when it was BT Sport...

OLD BOY 17-08-2023 08:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36158754)
You pay for content you don’t watch wherever you go. It’s a red herring.

If you really wanted to bin Virgin, you could. But don’t.

I'll bin what I don't want when I'm ready.

There is no red herring. While you are right about paying for content you don't watch, it's a matter of degree. There's plenty on the streamers I want to watch, but if I exhaust the stuff I want to see on one streamer I can cancel it and put my money into another with no contract to worry about. There is very little on the TV channels now that is not easily available elsewhere.

Virgin Stream comes very close to what I am looking for, but I want all the popular streamers such as AppleTV+ on there before I make a move with all content capable of being added to my Virgin watchlist.

I'm hoping that by the end of 2024, when I'm out of contract, I'll be able to make my move.

epsilon 17-08-2023 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36158765)
I'll bin what I don't want when I'm ready

2035?

Legendkiller2k 17-08-2023 12:14

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BT is dropping the AMC channel, i recall stating last year this was going to happen this year https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/bt-tv-...g-amc-channel/
Quote:

In a surprising turn of events, BT TV subscribers received emails today announcing the removal of the long-running AMC channel from BT’s TV platform.

Effective September 28, 2023, both the linear AMC channel and all its on-demand content will no longer be available on BT TV.

From iconic shows like Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, to more contemporary hits like Fear the Walking Dead, The AMC channel has been a staple on BT TV since its UK launch in 2015.

Of course, many of AMC’s programmes have also been available elsewhere in the UK (such as on Netflix, Disney+ and other streaming platforms) – but the channel was available at no extra cost on some of BT TV’s bundles, so it did bring with it some added value.

The decision to remove the AMC channel is bound to impact a significant number of viewers who have grown fond of the channel’s diverse content offerings, even though it’s been getting a bit… empty, in recent years.

But is this the end of AMC’s direct presence in the UK, or are we likely to see a UK version of their international streaming service – AMC+?

TimeLord2018 17-08-2023 12:20

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It wouldn't be hard to launch it on Amazon Prime Video channels and Apple TV channels via the Apple TV (not+ version) app at short notice.

Legendkiller2k 17-08-2023 12:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36158802)
It wouldn't be hard to launch it on Amazon Prime Video channels and Apple TV channels via the Apple TV (not+ version) app at short notice.

I think this is what will happen to start with then with apps for roku, firetvs, android etc rolling out.

1andrew1 17-08-2023 22:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36158805)
I think this is what will happen to start with then with apps for roku, firetvs, android etc rolling out.

I wonder if they might tie up with an existing provider as oppose to launching a stand-alone service? Perhaps Now TV, Paramount + or Amazon Prime?

Either way, the demise of AMC UK is not unexpected. It's been on the cards ever since the BT Sport-EuroSport announcement.

gilburton 17-08-2023 22:45

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They will ditch the TV service and hand it over to sky and concentrate on Broadband.

TimeLord2018 17-08-2023 22:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36158831)
I wonder if they might tie up with an existing provider as oppose to launching a stand-alone service? Perhaps Now TV, Paramount + or Amazon Prime?

Either way, the demise of AMC UK is not unexpected. It's been on the cards ever since the BT Sport-EuroSport announcement.

Virgin crossed my mind as a launch partner in some way

AMC channel launched on Virgin Media Ireland in February, the social media pages stopped being updated a month later and BT subsequently stopped marketing the channel.

They did a deal with AMC Networks in some way but it wasn't announced.

AMC+ streaming bundle did launch a year ago with no app in Spain only available via some TV providers and Amazon Prime and Apple TV channels.
https://amcplus.es/conoce-amc/

Media Boy UK 17-08-2023 23:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36158833)
Virgin crossed my mind as a launch partner.

AMC launched on Virgin Media Ireland in February, the social media pages stopped being updated a month later and BT subsequently stopped marketing the channel.

They did a deal with AMC Networks of some kind but it wasn't announced

AMC+ did launch a year ago with no app in Spain (which includes Acorn TV), only available via some TV providers and Amazon Prime and Apple TV channels

Seen reports on X that AMC may move to AMC +.

Will AMC axe the following channels next?

*Legend
*CBS Reality
*RealityXtra
*HorrorXtra

I know their own by CBS AMC Networks UK Channels Partnership but I feel AMC runs the channels on Paramount Global behalf and has no say in the day to day running of channels.

If anyone can find links to say I am wrong - I apologize.

TimeLord2018 17-08-2023 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36158834)
Seen reports on X that AMC may move to AMC +.

Will AMC axe the following channels next?

*Legend
*CBS Reality
*RealityXtra
*HorrorXtra

I know their own by CBS AMC Networks UK Channels Partnership but I feel AMC runs the channels on Paramount Global behalf and has no say in the day to day running of channels.

If anyone can find links to say I am wrong - I apologize.

Doesn't look like the channels will be closing the channels anytime soon, a New content group was launched recently
[https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2023...s-uk-and-emea/

Legendkiller2k 18-08-2023 02:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36158831)
I wonder if they might tie up with an existing provider as oppose to launching a stand-alone service? Perhaps Now TV, Paramount + or Amazon Prime?

Either way, the demise of AMC UK is not unexpected. It's been on the cards ever since the BT Sport-EuroSport announcement.

AMC Networks have been in talks with SKY for quite awhile, so we may see a AMC+ service show up on SKYQ,Stream,Glass.

1701-e 18-08-2023 08:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Looks like Sky sports arena changing to Tennis as the guide showing only Tennis from 28 August. Action being used for alternative courts though all courts will be on the red button.

1andrew1 18-08-2023 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36158837)
AMC Networks have been in talks with SKY for quite awhile, so we may see a AMC+ service show up on SKYQ,Stream,Glass.

Do they have enough content for a UK streaming service? The AMC channel was a bit light on the content front and it was effectively a value-added freebie, not a stand-alone offering.

TimeLord2018 18-08-2023 08:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36158847)
Do they have enough content for a UK streaming service? The AMC channel was a bit light on the content front and it was effectively a value-added freebie, not a stand-alone offering.

AMC+ would presumably content from Acorn TV (aswell as Shudder and Sundance Now) for 1 price which already exist in the UK

Also certain AMC content has been held back in the last year despite being renewed Interview With The Vampire and Mayfair Witches haven't appeared elsewhere, the lack of any news on The Walking: Dead City either.

AMC Studios programming until 2019/2020 was distributed by Entertainment One , that ended for new productions.

Phunkenstein 18-08-2023 11:25

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I think the saturated market doesn’t help AMC if they go OTT… there’s a nice bench of shows there to build a modest SVOD service in the Lionsgate Plus mould but even if you pull in some of the Shudder & Acorn stuff into a theoretical AMC Plus service I still don’t know if it’s really enough to truly cut through in the U.K. market? Couldn’t say to be honest!

If they keep it cheap and perhaps like in Spain opt to have others carry it on their backends, it may be viable? (But given how often L+ seem to have promo deals across Prime and their own app it does beg the question how are they really doing!)

Maybe this may ignite the furore of the anti linear brigade but part of me thinks they should side-step the normal D2C approach and instead re-launch the linear channel (much bolstered however) with a strong VOD component and get it onto Sky, Now and Virgin instead… doesn’t stop you launching a Prime/Apple channel either but that way you get some marketing muscle behind you, a bit of financial certainty and a couple of partners who’ll benefit from a regular cadence of premium programming on their platforms?

Whatever they do, whether it’s D2C, linear, slate deals or selling shows the old fashioned way they have options so curious to see what they opt to do.

Legendkiller2k 18-08-2023 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36158847)
Do they have enough content for a UK streaming service? The AMC channel was a bit light on the content front and it was effectively a value-added freebie, not a stand-alone offering.

AMC networks would most likely combine content from their CBS partnership channels aswell as AMC+, Shudder an d Sundance content.
AMC was light because AMC saw no value with it being on the smallest tv platform if AMC had been on VM and SKY then it may have been a different story.
Also as Timelord stated there is a bit of AMC content that hasn't been picked up yet too.

Media Boy UK 19-08-2023 01:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Virgin Media's EPG has confirmed that ITV's CITV Channel will close at 9pm on September 1st.

Media Boy UK 24-08-2023 14:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Digital Bit Rates is reporting that Virgin Media UK are testing in Virgin Media HQ the following channels for the US Tennis open:

*Sky Sports Tennis HD 1 to Sky Sports Tennis HD 16

My sources say the extra Sky Sports Tennis HD Channels will appear on the EPG from 561.

TimeLord2018 24-08-2023 17:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36158858)
Whatever they do, whether it’s D2C, linear, slate deals or selling shows the old fashioned way they have options so curious to see what they opt to do.

I don't think entirely rule out The Walking Dead spin offs being licensed to Disney+ UK perhaps they couldn’t because of contract with BT in the UK, I found out recently Tales Of The Walking Dead was licensed to Disney+ in Italy.

I will be suprised The Walking Dead: Dead City and The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon don’t appear somewhere by end of the year.

Legendkiller2k 25-08-2023 02:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36159129)
I don't think entirely rule out The Walking Dead spin offs being licensed to Disney+ UK perhaps they couldn’t because of contract with BT in the UK, I found out recently Tales Of The Walking Dead was licensed to Disney+ in Italy.

I will be suprised The Walking Dead: Dead City and The Walking Dead: Daryl Dixon don’t appear somewhere by end of the year.

Disney+ are making cutbacks so TWD spinoffs might not be in their plans.

TimeLord2018 25-08-2023 08:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
It's hard to know exactly where they would end up if AMC+ doesn't launch in the UK.

AMC+ was supposed to launch in Central and Eastern Europe at the start of the year but doesn't appear to happened, Definitely won't be launching in Germany anytime soon.
https://www.4kfilme.de/the-walking-d...auf-magentatv/

1701-e 25-08-2023 09:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36159175)
Disney+ are making cutbacks so TWD spinoffs might not be in their plans.

However with production halted on many shows they might want the option to buy especially with the pending price rises

vincerooney 01-09-2023 00:53

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Happy September all. Anything on the horizon?

Kevc69 01-09-2023 07:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Wall to wall Christmas movies on channel 424 from the end of next week to really dispirit those of us who are not lovers of Christmas.
I did wonder since these now take up 5 months of space already whether VM would go to 11 months with a 1 month break for valentines:D

1andrew1 01-09-2023 08:51

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36159510)
Happy September all. Anything on the horizon?

Excitement before Christmas is probably around the Premier League auction - will DAZN win any matches? Plus what will happen to Viaplay UK? Otherwise, I expect things to be business as usual.


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