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And gun sales will go up ,as peop;e rush to defend themselves from people with guns:spin:

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So do I but I don't use my middle in general use

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Americans do, more initials, names, the better. Size is everything there.

If they insist on a gun free for all, wish they'd get shooting on the national curriculum, the standard is appalling.

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It's crazy how the shooter managed to get into such a position and fire off those shots. Big security failing.

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Squeaky bum time for somebody.:D

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I assume you're just taking the mickey.
According to that, all that was said is "So, we’re done talking about the debate, it’s time to put Trump in a bullseye." Which just means focus your attention on him, not assasinate him - besides which, the shooter was a member of his own party.

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Which begs the question is this some kind of setup to garner sympathetic support for Trump?

Now where's that tin foil?:D

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Seen that idea posted elsewhere :(

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The BBC showed the picture of an advertising van that had the message that Democrates where behind the assassination attempt.


Despite the fact the shooter was a registered Republican voter

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He also donated to Biden according to this https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ssination.html

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Nigel's is flying over to kiss him better.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...esperate-hour/

Clacton's potholes can go swivel.

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The tin foil hat brigade are in full flow on X formally known as Twatter. :LOL:

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Way too early to extrapolate motive, also i wouldn’t be too confident in statements on social media. “Demolition Ranch” is not a “Far Right MAGA Militia”, it’s a you tube channel about guns.

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It was tongue in cheek, yes. But Trump also never said to storm the Capitol on Jan 6th………..

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Conspiracy Bingo

1. It was the CIA
2. It was the FBI
3. It was his own supporters
4. MAGA wanted to start a civil war
5. It was Biden
6. It was Putin
7. It was Ukraine
8. It is a publicity Stunt
9. The shooter was not working alone.
10. There was a second shooter
11. The secret service wanted him dead.
12. It was Aliens
13. Payback by long suffering Melania (or Marla or Ivana)

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You missed payback by long suffering Melania (or Marla or Ivana).

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Edited :LOL:

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14. Trump tried to shoot himself and missed.

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Nigel only looking at a different hole.....

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The classified documents case has been dismissed with the judge ruling that the special counsel was improperly appointed.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/15/p...-aileen-cannon

Likely to be appealed.

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Absolutely certain to be appealed, and also likely that Smith has been waiting for an excuse to go over Cannon’s head. She has been obstructing this case for months but until now has avoided doing anything to give Smith an opportunity to go to the appeals court and get her replaced.

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At least he’s kept up the idea of being respectful.

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I’m struggling to understand the timing around this though. Cannon has until now been careful not to give Smith anything to appeal. It has seemed as if she was very keen to drag the thing out and limit its scope as much as she could but not actually risk losing control of the proceedings. Why suddenly so careless? The timing, right after Saturday’s events, is highly suspicious. Does she think that Smith won’t appeal it under these circumstances? Or that the Federal appeals court will be less sympathetic to Smith if he does? On the other hand, I’m reading that she has not dismissed with prejudice, which allows the case to be restarted, and because in any case it had yet to come to trial Trump doesn’t have an acquittal so re-starting it woudn’t be double jeopardy. Is she perhaps suddenly wanting to distance herself from anything to do with Donald J Trump?

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I didn't watch, I'm not insane, but the write up seems to be his speech was an hour and a half stream of consciousness pure drivel.

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That ear bandage gets bigger all the time! Does he genuinely need it or us it just being used for effect?

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So the Trumpanzees said we looked stupid wearing masks, but they don’t look stupid sellotaping a gerbil pillow to the side of their heads? Riiiiiight.

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Is it mandatory for everyone to wear a gerbil pillow?

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According to the Trumpanzees it is. But as you’ll no doubt be aware I wasn’t talking about mandate.

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Trump has reached official cult status

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He reached that a long time ago.

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Cult?


Is that a typo :D

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Europe is going to be up ****** creek once he is in. Unless Democrats choose someone else they'll have no hope of winning, and if its Harris it won't be much better :shocked:

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We've survived Trump before, we'll survive him again.

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Survive in the literal sense, yes but a lot of what we see now in terms of US defence support will change. The world will be a more dangerous place I suspect.

What is most alarming is that Trump has learned from his first term i.e. what he can do and what he can't do and will be very focused on what to do to change things in his favour as well as going after those who confronted him in the past. His first term was a clown show but his second will be more sinister.

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While this kind of stuff is still allowed on social media…. :D

https://x.com/nancysinatra/status/18...685507030?s=46

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Have not laughed so hard in a while. Genius. Shared by Nancy Sinatra too *chefs kiss*

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Some people really, really don’t like the Donald.

https://www.psychopac.org/

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You call the last 14 years surviving. I am so grateful I don't need the UK for my life style ;)

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I didn't call the last 14 years. surviving.

Did you mean four years? It may have felt like 14 years to some, but Trump was only in power for four of them! ;)

Meanwhile, it looks like Trump was able to swerve Farage.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...f6fe1749&ei=19

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So you were happy with the tories guess. The value of my families trust has struggled with Biden in post , so have the staff that work for us, profit sharing has dropped their bonus by something like 20% from the Trump time:shocked: not happy with the main choices of president can't see the Democrats winning no matter whom they force into stand. ( who would be draft enough to bother and has the funds is really the question, Harris is not well liked, however I can't see anyone wanting to run is time.) For cause Trump could always try doing a "Putin"

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Verbatim, from last night’s rally in Michigan…

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And?

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Well "incomprehensible drivel" springs to mind.

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Hopefully the media will give Trump's cognitive issues - as demonstrated by his rambling speeches - more scrutiny, now that Biden has withdrawn. I fear they won't but you can but hope.

Thanx Hugh.....I think Donny is crazy for going to anymore Rallys..... Its apparent they dont care what happens....

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It’s not incomprehensible.

It doesn’t read well, but that’s the way he always talked.

Hugh, with reliable tedium, has posted the transcript as some kind of “gotcha”, when you could do it with any speech he’s ever made in the last decade.

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In what world does that make sense. It's inane drivel.

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If you're a Trump cultist, it makes perfect sense and gives the Bard a run for his money. If you're anyone else it is exactly as you described.

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It doesn't, just more ramblings from a total lunatic.

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I think Bletchley Park would have had a few problems with that one.

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I think his delivery of it, as stream of consciousness, is certainly better than it appears as a wall of text without paragraphs.

In terms of a speech I find his stream of consciousness more authentic than something that’s been run over by seven speechwriters and five focus groups. He usually gets something worthy of social media - his self depreciating comments about his hair were classic Trump comedy lines. It’s better than:

“It’s great to be here in <name>, isn’t Governor/Senator (delete as appropriate) <name> fantastic.

Five minutes on national security

Five minutes on the economy, in particular any local issues that might have reached national attention. Quote some economic stat that’s probably irrelevant to most people - the Nasdaq or mortgage approval rates.

Five minutes weaponising Roe v Wade

Five minutes accusing the other party of stealing the last election, or comparing the other to Hitler <delete as appropriate>

Vote jfman 2024!”

However, I do think just as with calling into question Biden it’s entirely appropriate to call into question Trump in this regard. Trump would be older at inauguration than Biden was in 2021. Does America want another declining old man as leader?

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Which bit?

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This is great.

What’s a “Trump cultist”, when he’s at home….?


There’s a few “cultists” on here, no doubt…..not sure Trump is involved though…….

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If you're one of those people at a Trump rally with slightly glazed eyes clapping enthusiastically as the Don rambles on, then that ticks my definition of someone who it makes sense to.

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Yep, it is. I suppose someone else who talks incomprehensible drivel might understand it.

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*Mic drop*

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I didn’t listen to the speech, so only the transcript Hugh posted, to make sense of.


So here he’s commenting that he thinks Xi of China is a very good dictator, that controls his population with an iron fist and how gets a lot of flack from the press for saying so,


Here he’s waffling about the use of the world “fierce” in the common parlance it is used in the US.


Referring to him losing and Biden winning the last election, and saying that Xi thinking it must be a joke Trump is playing, that Biden is the President.

Referring that strong countries require strong leaders

Referring that Biden had an IQ of 70 and he has one of 210 ( citation needed), and that he’ll win and be back in the White House.

I’m around to interpret future monologues if required.

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No problem, hold my beer

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The future of the free world is secure, we have secured a word salad interpreter :)

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I actually think the world is less secure by Trump’s opponents developing a caricature of him then competing against the caricature, rather than the man.

It might win some kind of online meme battle, and get some laughs among people who won’t vote for him anyway, but it won’t win elections.

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It'd be rude not to question it, especially the amount of times donny gets people's names wrong or confuses them with someone else, hilariously when challenging sleepy joe to a cognitive test and confusing Ronnie jackson with Ronnie Johnson, calling Nikki Hayley Nancy Pelosi (apparently he meant that one), calling Sleepy joe Obama, getting his own vp running mate name wrong and somewhat oddly warning us of the dangers of starting WW2, whilst not forgetting his friend the late great Hannibal Lecter (also done on purpose apparently) or his wistful ramble down dementia ally trying to decide on electrocution or being eaten by a shark but it's okay the man with have us believe I'm just there cognitively , okay donnie time for your nap.

It makes no sense to anyone else, this is where Harris might shock people too, she's a very uninspiring speech orator but she is an excellent debater and she'll nail donnie on his lack of detail or lies like sir beer does here. I think she could do worse than have another woman as vp as well, maybe a white woman? donnie and vance are misogynists vance even more so than donnie given his views on women staying in violent abusive marriages so could two women work well against that, the moment one of them slips up and says something controversial against the women could cost them dear and who'd bet against that happening.

Dunno, they seemed restless, looking at watches and fidgeting in the last one as he rambled on for ages after time, I don't think this divine intervention assassination rhetoric will play well either or at least it shouldn't as in saving donny someone else innocent died but considering that chaps wife wouldn't take a call from Biden but is still waiting for donnies what do I know.

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Bad day for the Donald. Someone under 60 and vaguely compos mentis, that's a real challenge.

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It's going to be interesting to see how it goes. I think it's about 43%-45% Harris v 55%-57% Trump. Of course, Harris has not started campaigning and I don't believe is confirmed yet, but all the money piling in should ensure she is the Democratic candidate.

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The word “vaguely”. Working overtime in that sentence.

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Less vaguely than Trump, who needs someone to interpret his speeches into English for him. :D

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It's 50/50 whether Donny will be in a good enough state come November, let alone 4 years. He's in no better health than Biden, look at some of his recent rants/speeches... The Dems might win this by acting first to face up to reality.

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Trump is clearly in better health than President Biden.

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Downfall: Unburdened Edition

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Trump is clearly suffering dementia and is declining noticeably. It no longer matters how healthy he is compared to Joe (though you’d be forgiven for thinking so, if you read what Trump and his lickspittles have been spewing out over the past 48 hours - it’s almost as if they don’t quite believe he’s going).

All the questions the Trumpers have been demanding of Biden have always applied to Trump too. It’s just that previously they could reasonably be directed at the man who looks much more physically frail. Now, though, they apply uniquely to Trump, and Trump can’t hide behind the thin excuse of being younger and fitter than the other guy. He might (just) be able to string a sentence together now, but what about late 2025? What about 2028, when he’ll be turning 82 (assuming he lives that long)?

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From now on, please discuss Trump and Harris and anything they say/do that is connected with the 2024 election in this new thread here:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...5#post36179565

Please use this thread only for ongoing discussion of Trump’s Troubles, basically the many prosecutions he is facing.

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Maybe Musk can be encouraged to buy it?
https://www.ft.com/content/8ab41c18-...d-1ad12b281063

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No need for it now. Should find a way to ditch it.

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I don’t think he can - Trump owes a lot of people a lot of money, including lawyers who he still badly needs. He’s famous for not paying his bills and if they start thinking he might not be able to pony up they might stop turning up at court. Truth Social’s paper value is keeping his net worth respectable, on paper at least. I doubt he can afford to cash in at the current price.

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That's why he needs to twist Musk's arm. Otherwise it will continue burning through cash until the cash runs out or someone decides to proactively end the business in its current form.

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1724785096

Point of information

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Lay down in a darkened room with a wet towel on your head,it'll soon pass;)

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If that’s how you deal with reality, it explains a lot…

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Perhaps you could explain the issue ?

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Trump is alleging that the White House leaned on Mark Zuckerberg to suppress a scandal about Hunter Biden (Joe Biden’s son). He is alleging that this means the 2020 election was rigged.

The only problem is, Trump was in the White House in 2020. Anything the Biden White House may or may not have done to take the heat off Hunter took place in 2021 or later and can have had nothing whatsoever to do with the 2020 election.

However, Trump seems to have it fixed in his head that the White House might have been doing things to rig the 2020 election. If so, it was the Trump administration that was doing the rigging. Trump is frequently observed to be accusing other people of doing what he himself has done. This tweet may be rather revealing, and not in the way Trump hoped.

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Trump was in the white house then...

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Sorry, I’m having a blonde moment ( misogyny, no doubt Cooper will send the cops round)

What does your “point of information” have to do with that statement from Trump?

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Oh OK, thanks. “White House” another mis-step from Trump. I think the Hunter Biden Lap Top issue, it has been pretty much common knowledge that sympathetic Democrats in the FBI/ CIA leant on Facebook and the MSM (not that they needed leaning on) not to run with the Hunter Biden story.

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/pr...ies-about-hack

Not really.

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Did someone mention Trump and the 2020 election?

https://www.ft.com/content/acf27586-...7-78472fbcd958

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https://wapo.st/4dIARUm

The families can’t "give permission" for campaign photos/video at Arlington.

btw, here’s one of those "respectful" photos.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1724831964

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outrageous, arrest him immediately and those dis-respectful family members too.

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It’s not a question of prosecuting him for lack of respect - using the cemetery for political campaigning is illegal and he ought to be investigated for that.

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A bit like allegedly using dead peoples votes to win an election is illegal .

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It is. Do you have evidence of it ( like the photograph above is evidence) ?
Or is it more Trumpylies for the gullible cult morons...

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https://wapo.st/4fZrMb9

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This might be the final nail for Trump.

Or perhaps the next Cable Forum jolly boys' outing. Mick or Pierre can introduce the film. :D

The Apprentice https://g.co/kgs/jf37Qsa

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The problem here, and always has been, is the report in Hugh's post plus whatever is depicted in that film will simply infuriate Trumpanzees even more into voting for him. They don't care he's a crook, a sex offender, and a fraud. They just want to see his detractors lose, even if it means putting a senile old fraudulent woman-groper back in the White House for 4 years.

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Yes!!!


I just want to see it, to see everyone have a massive meltdown.

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You'll see it either way. Last time Trump lost it was a 3-month hissy fit followed by his supporters storming the capitol.

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Looks like someone was out to get him again.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq5eewvy3nlo

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Another card-carrying Republican by all accounts. They really don’t like him, do they.

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2 out of how many millions ?

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You say ‘2’ as if any number greater than zero doesn’t indicate a problem. :rofl:

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It's the many millions guns and millions of nutters is the US problem. Weird and increasingly dangerous country.

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Millions of guns isnt an issue on its own, nor is millions of nutters, their issue is they let the nutters have the guns.

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Technically , it’s the nutters with guns AND ammunition that’s the issue…

Chris Rock did an excellent skit on gun control

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I think I prefer the British way for nutters to show their displeasure by lobbying milkshakes.

I have been reading alot about Donny on the political base on CD.. Many think he doesnt have a chance.......

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Who knows? A lot of your country is bonkers , so it's difficult to say. You're one of the more sane ones Dude ;)

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True, without bullets they are less useful, you can only batter things with them (which could still kill).

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Despite being told that the only people firing shots were the secret service (who had spotted a gun poking out of the bushes), Trump is still going round telling people that the Secret Service knew Trump was getting shot at (which he wasn’t).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgwwqkgzx0o

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He doesn’t say that in article you just posted.

I would expect there to be a secret service detail in ahead of Trump that fired shots, meaning that the secret service that was with him “knew immediately it was bullets”

Any way there have two attempts on his life in as many months, and when you his opponents and media commentators calling him a threat to democracy, a threat to the country, etc, etc Out of a country with 350million people with access to guns, there will be idiots that take those comments seriously and think they are saving the country.

The Dems have to take % of responsibility for this.