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GrimUpNorth 19-06-2021 08:18
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36083853)
The third episode of ‘Until We Die’ from Channel 4 hasn’t been added to the ‘on demand’ system on the 360, annoyingly.

Does it appear on the V6s?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083854)
"Before We Die" on the V6 - episodes 1,2,4,5,6 are available; no episode 3.
Series 1 episodes 1 to 10 and series 2 episodes 1 to 8 are all available on Sky Q ;).

cheekyangus 19-06-2021 09:04
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083854)
"Before We Die" on the V6 - episodes 1,2,4,5,6 are available; no episode 3.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36083860)
Series 1 episodes 1 to 10 and series 2 episodes 1 to 8 are all available on Sky Q ;).
The drama that's showing on Channel 4 is a remake/adaptation of a Swedish show from a few years ago. There hasn't been a Series 2 of the UK one, and there aren't as many episodes per series either. Those are also available on All4 in the Walter Presents area.

Richardr 19-06-2021 11:52
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36083860)
Series 1 episodes 1 to 10 and series 2 episodes 1 to 8 are all available on Sky Q ;).
The 6 episodes of this series are available as well on Sky Q, rather then the earlier series it is based on.

Back to Virgin, on the V6 all six are available on the All4 app, one of the reasons it is an issue that app isn't available on the 360. Perhaps the earlier poster will have access to All4 on their TV, or another box, if not, it can be seen on All4 on a computer.

Virgin TV Go claims 5 episodes (so is missing one) but I can't seem to get that to work on C4 content at all at the moment to check.

OLD BOY 19-06-2021 14:50
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Yes, I have access to All4 on my TV, but I’d rather not watch it that way owing to the unskippable advertisements.

Perhaps someone at VM could upload the missing episode? (Pretty please?)!

RobboEdin 19-06-2021 14:52
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Of course, sensible people don’t rely on On Demand; they record.

OLD BOY 19-06-2021 15:08
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36083880)
Of course, sensible people don’t rely on On Demand; they record.
Nice theory.

But with 1Tb available on the Virgin hard drives, that won’t record much.

jfman 19-06-2021 16:25
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36083881)
Nice theory.

But with 1Tb available on the Virgin hard drives, that won’t record much.
How many E180 tapes did you have back in the day, Old Boy?

cheekyangus 19-06-2021 17:27
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36083881)
Nice theory.

But with 1Tb available on the Virgin hard drives, that won’t record much.
Our household record a lot (IMHO) and our V6 never really moves out of the 40-50% range (currently 39%). Most of that is long held content that the mood has never been quite right for.

1TB is fine, especially with the reduced space required as the new encoders have been implemented by VM. We used to be 50-60% full before that.

RobboEdin 19-06-2021 17:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36083881)
Nice theory.

But with 1Tb available on the Virgin hard drives, that won’t record much.
That’s just ridiculous. Plenty room for recording and watching then deleting. These devices are not for archiving material that doesn’t belong to you and you will likely never watch.

OLD BOY 19-06-2021 20:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36083883)
How many E180 tapes did you have back in the day, Old Boy?
56, some of which were four rather than three hours duration. Most of them were full! At least you could buy more if you needed them.

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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36083886)
That’s just ridiculous. Plenty room for recording and watching then deleting. These devices are not for archiving material that doesn’t belong to you and you will likely never watch.
I watch everything within about an 18 month period, and then they are deleted.

I appreciate that you may do things differently, but I watch TV when it is convenient to me. I even record News at 10 because I’m not always ready to watch it at the scheduled time. Watching it at 2am is not that unusual.

We all use our TVs in different ways. I am watching it exactly in the way that Virgin advocated.

If it wasn’t for the bookmark (watchlist) alternative, it would be absolutely hopeless.

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36083885)
Our household record a lot (IMHO) and our V6 never really moves out of the 40-50% range (currently 39%). Most of that is long held content that the mood has never been quite right for.

1TB is fine, especially with the reduced space required as the new encoders have been implemented by VM. We used to be 50-60% full before that.
Yes, 1Tb I’m sure is ok for the way you use it, but you probably watch a lot of TV ‘live’. I don’t. Everything is pre-recorded or bookmarked. Scheduled TV does my head in - I don’t have the hours in the day to waste so much time.

cheekyangus 19-06-2021 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36083892)
Yes, 1Tb I’m sure is ok for the way you use it, but you probably watch a lot of TV ‘live’. I don’t. Everything is pre-recorded or bookmarked. Scheduled TV does my head in - I don’t have the hours in the day to waste so much time.
If we watched most of our TV live (proportionally) we wouldn't need a recording facility. 70% is recorded.

But A LOT of TV is watched. And that's not even including streaming content.

RichardCoulter 20-06-2021 11:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36083886)
That’s just ridiculous. Plenty room for recording and watching then deleting. These devices are not for archiving material that doesn’t belong to you and you will likely never watch.
The number of people prosecuted for archiving material for their own use is precisely nil. That's how much they care about it.

Not that archiving on a PVR can really be considered as archiving as the disc will eventually fail at some point.

RobboEdin 20-06-2021 12:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36083919)
The number of people prosecuted for archiving material for their own use is precisely nil. That's how much they care about it.

Not that archiving on a PVR can really be considered as archiving as the disc will eventually fail at some point.
Richard, you talk a load of rot.
Doing something and not getting caught or prosecuted doesn’t make it right.

cheekyangus 20-06-2021 12:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36083919)
The number of people prosecuted for archiving material for their own use is precisely nil. That's how much they care about it.

Not that archiving on a PVR can really be considered as archiving as the disc will eventually fail at some point.
They might not get as far as prosecution, but they are making it progressively harder. The number of features that have been removed from successive generations of Audiovisual equipment shows the industry wants increasing amounts of control over content.

V+ had a function for those who wished to backup via SCART, gone in Tivo. Virtually all Freeview Recorders are HDD only, no DVD Writers built-in. And Recorders themselves aren't widely available anyway these days. Much less choice, from much smaller range of manufacturers.

Archiving in every medium ever has an expiration date, whether it be disk, tape, parchment, paper or stone.

RichardCoulter 21-06-2021 06:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36083922)
Richard, you talk a load of rot.
Doing something and not getting caught or prosecuted doesn’t make it right.
I couldn't care less about this particular law as couldn't the vast majority of people. Most people have more important things to worry about. You clearly don't.

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36083925)
They might not get as far as prosecution, but they are making it progressively harder. The number of features that have been removed from successive generations of Audiovisual equipment shows the industry wants increasing amounts of control over content.

V+ had a function for those who wished to backup via SCART, gone in Tivo. Virtually all Freeview Recorders are HDD only, no DVD Writers built-in. And Recorders themselves aren't widely available anyway these days. Much less choice, from much smaller range of manufacturers.

Archiving in every medium ever has an expiration date, whether it be disk, tape, parchment, paper or stone.
Absolutely agree.

RobboEdin 21-06-2021 14:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36083952)
I couldn't care less about this particular law as couldn't the vast majority of people. Most people have more important things to worry about. You clearly don't.
… and that says it all about you, Richard or do your friends call you Dick.

RichardCoulter 21-06-2021 15:42
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
If you're only capable of offering puerile comments (and not even an original one at that) instead of debating like an adult, it's time to end this conversation.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36083919)
The number of people prosecuted for archiving material for their own use is precisely nil. That's how much they care about it.

Not that archiving on a PVR can really be considered as archiving as the disc will eventually fail at some point.
Thinking about it, it's a good job that this law is widely ignored. If the late Bob Monkhouse hadn't of kept the many recordings that he made, hours and hours of content would have been lost forever. Some has even been used by the BBC to broadcast archive programming that they no longer held themselves.

The same goes for employees that 'stole' material destined for the bin.

The 'Missing believed wiped' archive is all the richer for it.

spiderplant 22-06-2021 22:46
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083854)
"Before We Die" on the V6 - episodes 1,2,4,5,6 are available; no episode 3.
This is fixed now.

OLD BOY 22-06-2021 23:02
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Thanks, spiderplant.

ozsat 23-06-2021 05:32
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Bob Monkhouse was charged for making his collection and although the judge threw it out - he did not get many items from his collection back.

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36083982)
Thinking about it, it's a good job that this law is widely ignored. If the late Bob Monkhouse hadn't of kept the many recordings that he made, hours and hours of content would have been lost forever. Some has even been used by the BBC to broadcast archive programming that they no longer held themselves.

The same goes for employees that 'stole' material destined for the bin.

The 'Missing believed wiped' archive is all the richer for it.

RichardCoulter 23-06-2021 05:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36084116)
Bob Monkhouse was charged for making his collection and although the judge threw it out - he did not get many items from his collection back.
Surely they won't have been destroyed?

The Bob Monkhouse case was an oddity all round.

BenMcr 23-06-2021 08:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36084116)
Bob Monkhouse was charged for making his collection and although the judge threw it out - he did not get many items from his collection back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36084119)
Surely they won't have been destroyed?

The Bob Monkhouse case was an oddity all round.
Not his VHS collection though, it was his film collection

https://www.filmstories.co.uk/featur...me-squad-case/

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The case went on for eleven days in all, before the judge had had enough. He dismissed the jury, told Monkhouse there was no case to answer (there’d been no evidence at all that he’d been renting the films out, for instance), and all charges were dropped. The trial had been expected to go on for three months. It was over in under two weeks.

The case, sadly, had ramifications for cinema. Whilst some of his films were returned, not all of them came back. The Cameraman? Gone. Ghost Train? Gone. “My successful defence had failed to establish my right of ownership without each film title requiring its individual claim in civil court”, Monkhouse wrote, meaning some of the films could never be returned.

Many were destroyed as a consequence.

jfman 23-06-2021 10:55
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I have to laugh that there's nothing worth watching on linear television yet there's so much of it for OB to record it takes 18 months to get round to it.

1andrew1 23-06-2021 17:41
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36083881)
Nice theory.

But with 1Tb available on the Virgin hard drives, that won’t record much.
Do you have a backlog of News at Ten, Old Boy? :) That's a lot of hours to watch, unless you have a large household?
If you can't catch up with your recordings during a pandemic, you never will!

OLD BOY 23-06-2021 18:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36084136)
I have to laugh that there's nothing worth watching on linear television yet there's so much of it for OB to record it takes 18 months to get round to it.
120 hours of recordings equates to under six 22-part series. If you record everything you watch, clearly 1Tb is seriously deficient.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36084161)
Do you have a backlog of News at Ten, Old Boy? :) That's a lot of hours to watch, unless you have a large household?
If you can't catch up with your recordings during a pandemic, you never will!
No, I watch the news within four or five hours of it being broadcast.

The pandemic has made no difference to my viewing habits. I only watch TV for about 2 hours each evening (more on Friday and Saturday nights when I am not going out).

jfman 23-06-2021 18:40
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So despite this glorious streaming future in place you have a three month backlog of linear content to catch up on?

I’d be hitting the cancel button on all those subs for three months and save yourself a small fortune. Who knows by the end of month three you might have found a further 40 hours worth watching or so.

OLD BOY 23-06-2021 23:12
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36084166)
So despite this glorious streaming future in place you have a three month backlog of linear content to catch up on?

I’d be hitting the cancel button on all those subs for three months and save yourself a small fortune. Who knows by the end of month three you might have found a further 40 hours worth watching or so.
Why are you having such difficulty separating the present from the future?

Quite extraordinary.

Hugh 23-06-2021 23:15
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Speaking of the present…

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...-b1869617.html

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Netflix will reportedly be subject to regulation under UK broadcast watchdog Ofcom, with government plans set to be announced this week.

Along with other streaming services such as Amazon Prime Video and Disney Plus, Netflix currently falls outside Ofcom’s jurisdiction.

The prospective changes would see the regulator given the power to adjudicate on complaints over issues of rule relating to bias and inaccuracy.

It is hoped that the changes would provide a boost to the nation’s traditional broadcasters, such as the BBC.
And as Oliver Dowden recently said in the Times.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/o...flix-n3w26x5fz
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It’s a golden age for TV and I want to keep it that way. But to do that we need the healthiest broadcasting landscape: one that is diverse, free and pluralistic. One where streamers can keep churning out brilliant shows, while traditional public service broadcasters retain their place at the centre of the UK’s media ecosystem.
Looks as if PSB will be with us for quite a while…

jfman 24-06-2021 00:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36084194)
Why are you having such difficulty separating the present from the future?

Quite extraordinary.
The next 3 months is the future!

Happy viewing.

spiderplant 24-06-2021 14:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36084194)
Why are you having such difficulty separating the present from the future?

Quite extraordinary.
With compression improvements and a larger HDD, the V6 /360 can record around 24 times as much as a V+, yet you still manage to fill it. Just imagine how much you'll be recording by 2035 ;)

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2021 10:04
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I've got my new remotes being delivered today, how difficult is the upgrade of the V6 box to 360 ?

Rob King 06-07-2021 10:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36085373)
I've got my new remotes being delivered today, how difficult is the upgrade of the V6 box to 360 ?
Mine took about 15 mins just make a note of any series links / recordings as it wipes the lot

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2021 10:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob King (Post 36085380)
Mine took about 15 mins just make a note of any series links / recordings as it wipes the lot
TBH the V6 boxes have got 5 years of series links that I've never bothered to housekeep, recordings same thing :D

spiderplant 06-07-2021 11:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36085373)
I've got my new remotes being delivered today, how difficult is the upgrade of the V6 box to 360 ?
Should be easy. Make sure both boxes are turned on, then run the conversion app on either one of the boxes (using the old V6 remote). It will tell you when to switch to using the new remote. The second box should then convert itself automatically.

mrmistoffelees 06-07-2021 13:11
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Yep, really easy upgrade process, pleasantly surprised at how smooth it was

Mad Max 08-07-2021 20:08
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What's Virgin Media's plan for these new boxes, are they wanting everyone changed over to them? I haven't even been offered Horizon, my V6 boxes do a good enough job.

thelem 09-07-2021 17:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36085697)
What's Virgin Media's plan for these new boxes, are they wanting everyone changed over to them?
Eventually, yes, because they won't want to pay for the maintenance of two systems. A lot of that will happen through normal churn as customers leave and new customers are given a 360/Horizon box. If a box fails I imagine it will be replaced with a 360 box too, unless there are other V6s in the home and the customer doesn't want to lose their recordings.

At some point they'll start to forcibly move customers onto the new platform so they can turn off the old one, but there are no indications that will be any time soon. They still have "Tivo" boxes (pre-V6), and it's not that long ago that they got rid of the final ntl/Telewest era boxes.

Ask again in a few years.

jobbie8 10-07-2021 14:21
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I've had the 360 software for a few months now, I'm pleased with it and have not had many issues to note.
I do miss being able to choose a tuner and rewind, although I've found the 'restart' option has filled in for most things I watch.

How is everybody else finding the 360?

OLD BOY 10-07-2021 20:15
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 36085832)
I've had the 360 software for a few months now, I'm pleased with it and have not had many issues to note.
I do miss being able to choose a tuner and rewind, although I've found the 'restart' option has filled in for most things I watch.

How is everybody else finding the 360?
It’s good. My wife and I have our own watchlists, and there is a separate wish list for both of us. Bookmarks are much easier to set. I find it strange that we can separate the wish lists in this way, but we can’t do that with the recordings.

We still haven’t got All4, which is annoying. And of course you cannot add Netflix content to the watchlist (due to current Netflix policy).

One thing that I find lacking in respect of the system is the ability to set a manual recording. That would be useful. At present, if we want to set the recorder for the regional news after News At 10, we have to set each programme separately, otherwise all three bulletins each day get recorded.

Overall, I am happy that I made the change.

vincerooney 11-07-2021 02:12
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I have 3 tivo boxes so i assume we're still unable to move to horizon software without an engineer coming?

What else is still missing from the apps other than All4?

Last time i checked people told me to just keep with my current V6 boxes so i'm wondering if this advice has changed!

heavyside 11-07-2021 07:14
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 36085832)
I've had the 360 software for a few months now, I'm pleased with it and have not had many issues to note.
I do miss being able to choose a tuner and rewind, although I've found the 'restart' option has filled in for most things I watch.

How is everybody else finding the 360?
It took a little getting used to but I like the 360. Once I stopped thinking V6 and started thinking 360 I began to enjoy it. The remote control is much neater than the clunky V6 variety (I like the backlights) and the GUI is light-years ahead. I find the interface fast and easy to use. There is still room for improvement and features to be added - sooner rather than later, I hope. But the thing I really, really miss is the All4 app and access to the very watchable foreign drama series there (neither of my smart TVs has this app built-in).

spiderplant 11-07-2021 07:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36085881)
I have 3 tivo boxes so i assume we're still unable to move to horizon software without an engineer coming?
Correct

fox35 11-07-2021 08:45
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36085851)
It’s good. My wife and I have our own watchlists, and there is a separate wish list for both of us. Bookmarks are much easier to set..
Really? Am I missing the trick here?
I can't find the Bookmark function. Is it called something else, and if so how does it work?
I find the Search function to be very poor, compared to the V6. It is a hit or miss affair and not as comprehensive in searching titles, actors, directors or genres.
Sorry I ever transitioned to the 360. Big mistake.

OLD BOY 11-07-2021 10:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36085888)
Really? Am I missing the trick here?
I can't find the Bookmark function. Is it called something else, and if so how does it work?
I find the Search function to be very poor, compared to the V6. It is a hit or miss affair and not as comprehensive in searching titles, actors, directors or genres.
Sorry I ever transitioned to the 360. Big mistake.
On the 360, the 'watchlist' function is where you bookmark your shows for later viewing. When you search for a programme or click the show from the guide, if it is available on demand, the 'watchlist' option appears next to the record option.

If you want to separate these bookmarked programmes for you and your wife, select profiles by pressing the button on the right hand side of the remote.

I have not encountered a problem with the search function, to be honest, but I search only by titles, not by actors, genres, etc.

SonicMaster 11-07-2021 11:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paul0363 (Post 36077229)
List taken from my 360:

Al Jazeera
BBC iPlayer
BBC Sounds
CNN
Deutsche Welle
France 24
My5
Netflix
Prime Video
RadioLine
STV Player
TV Upgrades
Vevo
VM Store
Wall Street Journal
You Tube

I believe ITV Hub is available south of the border (I'm in Scotland so it's not on my box).

Apart from All4 the only other streamers that seem to be missing, from memory, are PlutoTV (although some of its content is avaialble via My5) and MTV Play.
Please could someone confirm whether the above list is still current, and All4, Pluto TV and MTV Play are not yet available on the 360?

If the missing apps were added, along with the addition of Disney+ and Discovery+, that would get me to switch over, now that the Series Link issue appears to be fixed.

fox35 11-07-2021 11:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36085895)
On the 360, the 'watchlist' function is where you bookmark your shows for later viewing. When you search for a programme or click the show from the guide, if it is available on demand, the 'watchlist' option appears next to the record option.

If you want to separate these bookmarked programmes for you and your wife, select profiles by pressing the button on the right hand side of the remote.

I have not encountered a problem with the search function, to be honest, but I search only by titles, not by actors, genres, etc.
Thanks OB, I will try to get my head around it! However, does the Search facility then "Watchlist" function work with Prime Video too? I am already aware of the Netflix situation.

RobboEdin 11-07-2021 12:10
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Yes, Prime Video assets can be added to TV 360 Watchlist.

cheekyangus 11-07-2021 12:19
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Seems counterintuitive to only be able to Bookmark in a Watchlist.

The obvious (IMHO anyway) way to implement it is have a Bookmark option on every separate piece of programming (that's compatible) and/or a 1-press option on the EPG.

I so little use the Seach function I forgot there's a dedicated button on the V6 remote.

Everyone's different though.

RobboEdin 11-07-2021 12:30
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Of course, you can add to Watchlist from the Guide:

cheekyangus 11-07-2021 13:11
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Originally Posted by RobboEdin (Post 36085913)
Of course, you can add to Watchlist from the Guide:
Thanks.

I think when I read Watchlist I think of something it maybe isn't.

OLD BOY 11-07-2021 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36085914)
Thanks.

I think when I read Watchlist I think of something it maybe isn't.
Yes, it’s a watchlist, not a wish list!

fox35 11-07-2021 16:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36085916)
Yes, it’s a watchlist, not a wish list!
Yes. That's where I was getting confused OB. So essentially it just Bookmarks shows which are already available anyway via On Demand or Catchup.
Other shows from the live Guide which are not available On Demand or Watch From Start, you just need to use the "Set A Reminder" or set to "Record" instead.
Think I've eventually got it now, took me 7 months!!! LOL.

OLD BOY 11-07-2021 17:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36085918)
Yes. That's where I was getting confused OB. So essentially it just Bookmarks shows which are already available anyway via On Demand or Catchup.
Other shows from the live Guide which are not available On Demand or Watch From Start, you just need to use the "Set A Reminder" or set to "Record" instead.
Think I've eventually got it now, took me 7 months!!! LOL.
Yes, also it will bookmark shows from certain OTT services such as Prime.

jfman 11-07-2021 17:32
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Hang on, OB has upgraded go 360 and accumulated 18 months worth of recordings despite there being nothing on linear television?

That takes some doing when 360 has only been around for 20 minutes.

jobbie8 11-07-2021 20:39
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
My friend has an original TiVo, we watched England play on Saturday, it took almost 9 seconds to change channel when he typed 108 in. I don't remember them being that slow...

I liked the V6 for the TiVo software, which I still have a soft spot for and the speed of the V6.
I'm really pleased with the 360, the speed and I find myself using the voice command more than ever.
And that HD is by default.

I haven't missed the All4 app, but I believe it's not on a few TV's and devices. MTV, I record but would prefer the MTV Play app.

I do like how, you press play on a recording ,it plays at the channel ident, even though I have the recording set at 1 minute before and 3 mins after.
Also I like how you press back 10 seconds, on live TV or OnDemand works the same.

Like I said, I have a soft spot for TiVo, but I'm not missing it.

paul0363 11-07-2021 21:07
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36085900)
Please could someone confirm whether the above list is still current, and All4, Pluto TV and MTV Play are not yet available on the 360?

If the missing apps were added, along with the addition of Disney+ and Discovery+, that would get me to switch over, now that the Series Link issue appears to be fixed.
Still current. Still no All4, Pluto or MTV Play.

OLD BOY 11-07-2021 22:08
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36085920)
Hang on, OB has upgraded go 360 and accumulated 18 months worth of recordings despite there being nothing on linear television?

That takes some doing when 360 has only been around for 20 minutes.
What are you on about? In post #826, you detected I had three months’ worth of recordings. When did that become 18 months?

heavyside 12-07-2021 07:07
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 36085929)
I don't remember them being that slow...
I do. In speed terms, the V6 was a huge improvement and the 360 is an improvement on that.

Hugh 12-07-2021 13:36
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36085934)
What are you on about? In post #826, you detected I had three months’ worth of recordings. When did that become 18 months?
Maybe post #810, when you said
Quote:
I watch everything within about an 18 month period

OLD BOY 12-07-2021 13:39
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36085994)
Maybe post #810, when you said
Yes, I do, but I never said I had 18 months’ worth of stuff on my 360, which I acquired only this year.

Hugh 12-07-2021 13:42
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36085999)
Yes, I do, but I never said I had 18 months’ worth of stuff on my 360, which I acquired only this year.
Apologies - your use of the present tense, rather than past, led me to the incorrect assumption.

OLD BOY 12-07-2021 13:45
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36085900)
Please could someone confirm whether the above list is still current, and All4, Pluto TV and MTV Play are not yet available on the 360?

If the missing apps were added, along with the addition of Disney+ and Discovery+, that would get me to switch over, now that the Series Link issue appears to be fixed.
Yes, it’s still correct. While we don’t have the separate Pluto app, we do have the following channels on My5:

Pluto Drama
Pluto Food
Pluto Movies
Pluto Paranormal
Pluto Retro

jfman 12-07-2021 13:48
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Easy mistake for us to make.

It certainly sounds like there’s a lot more going on in linear television than you frequently let on.

OLD BOY 12-07-2021 18:47
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36086003)
Apologies - your use of the present tense, rather than past, led me to the incorrect assumption.
It's the general rule that I watch just about everything I'm going to watch within 18 months of recording, but I lost a chunk of recordings when I switched to the 360.

---------- Post added at 18:47 ---------- Previous post was at 18:43 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36086015)
Easy mistake for us to make.

It certainly sounds like there’s a lot more going on in linear television than you frequently let on.
A few years ago I was struggling to watch everything on my recordings, but over the last couple or three years, the reduction in quantity has been noticeable.

A sizeable proportion of my recordings is now for my wife - reality stuff, which has not diminished, unfortunately. The majority of mine is on my on demand watchlists.

vincerooney 13-07-2021 01:47
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 36085929)
My friend has an original TiVo, we watched England play on Saturday, it took almost 9 seconds to change channel when he typed 108 in. I don't remember them being that slow...

I liked the V6 for the TiVo software, which I still have a soft spot for and the speed of the V6.
I'm really pleased with the 360, the speed and I find myself using the voice command more than ever.
And that HD is by default.

I haven't missed the All4 app, but I believe it's not on a few TV's and devices. MTV, I record but would prefer the MTV Play app.

I do like how, you press play on a recording ,it plays at the channel ident, even though I have the recording set at 1 minute before and 3 mins after.
Also I like how you press back 10 seconds, on live TV or OnDemand works the same.

Like I said, I have a soft spot for TiVo, but I'm not missing it.
Is the only thing now missing from the tv 360 the All 4 app? I wonder what the timescale is for that?

Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36085886)
Correct
Cheers spider :)

spiderplant 13-07-2021 13:01
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36086102)
Is the only thing now missing from the tv 360 the All 4 app?
Other apps on V6 but not 360 (based on a quick scan - apologies for any errors or omissions):
YouTube Kids
Pluto TV (but see OB's post above)
MTV Play
Get Fit Today
Body In Balance
Eros Now
Voot
Games
Slots

And these apps are on 360 but aren't on V6:
Wall Street Journal
Deutsche Welle
CNN

OLD BOY 13-07-2021 17:50
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
My 360s were indicating I had an update today, but no new streamers appeared! Just some better functionality, it seems.

fox35 15-07-2021 16:26
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36086161)
My 360s were indicating I had an update today, but no new streamers appeared! Just some better functionality, it seems.
https://translate.google.com/transla...search&pto=aue Found this interesting bit of info on the Dutch version of the 360 software update. I can confirm you can search Youtube via the voice control. Appears to be the only significant difference apart from mainly bug fixes. You may need to use Google Translate to read the site. Scroll down to MediaBox Next > Knowing More > then down again to View Latest Updates.

RichardCoulter 15-07-2021 19:12
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Can you use QuickTime or something similarly named on the 360?

RobboEdin 15-07-2021 19:16
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086369)
Can you use QuickTime or something similarly named on the 360?
No.

cheekyangus 15-07-2021 19:28
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36086369)
Can you use QuickTime or something similarly named on the 360?
Nor Realplayer.

Sorry Richard, couldn't resist. :D

RichardCoulter 15-07-2021 19:30
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Lol, bloody Spellchecker :D

heavyside 20-07-2021 13:58
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
My 360 boxes have had a software update overnight to version 4.34. I have only had the briefest of looks but at first glance it seems that there are a few more options for selecting catch-up programmes and also for organizing recorded shows. I was secretly hoping that any update would include the All4 app - but no luck.

Sephiroth 05-01-2022 12:46
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom (Post 36062306)
First real problem, now had a couple of recordings fail.

Error code CS2200. Recording failed due to a technical issue??
Long thread but I'm not sure this has been answered. So - here goes:

In SETTINGS/SYSTEM do a factory reset on the Mini and the V6. That sorted it out for me.

hedgie 05-01-2022 12:58
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Hi all,

Apologies ive not been on this forum for a bit and being totally honest I havent read all of this thread.

We are really liking our 360 however there odes seem one lack of functionality regarding series links. the old box allowed you to select only new episodes whilst the 360 seems to default to everything.

Have a missed something in the options ?

otherwise its great, I use the voice remote way more than I thought and its smaller to boot.

Happy New year all

OLD BOY 05-01-2022 13:43
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
The series links option gives you all available series. Once you start watching, the system remembers what you have seen, and you can delete it once seen, and the watchlist will indicate what you have watched (on the 360), so it’s easy enough to see where you are.

It just works a different way.

Itshim 05-01-2022 18:54
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Keep reading about 360 can't say I have noticed anything worth changing for but will keep looking . Unless I quit due to price rise . Not advised as yet .

Meng 24-08-2022 15:14
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Just switched to 360. I assumed it would have Wishlists.

How naive of me. :(

OLD BOY 24-08-2022 20:05
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meng (Post 36132202)
Just switched to 360. I assumed it would have Wishlists.

How naive of me. :(
You can search for everything that is available, but not for what is not available. Suits me, frankly.

fox35 25-08-2022 14:47
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meng (Post 36132202)
Just switched to 360. I assumed it would have Wishlists.

How naive of me. :(
The WATCHLIST works in a similar way to the old TiVo Wishlist or Bookmarks, but only for content that is available in the epg, stream, catch up, or in the apps etc. Search for a title and it will list all available content or episodes and where they are available to view then select to Add To Watchlist for easy finding and viewing later. Took me a while to get used to it but mastered it now. Its now my most used feature!

lemarsh 01-10-2022 10:08
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Just received my 360 box. But have we lost the ability to search Netflix, and series links for netflix.
If i do a search, all i get is youtube stuff.
Must admit this is something i use a lot, and will be a pain if we loose that

muppetman11 01-10-2022 10:51
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lemarsh (Post 36135593)
Just received my 360 box. But have we lost the ability to search Netflix, and series links for netflix.
If i do a search, all i get is youtube stuff.
Must admit this is something i use a lot, and will be a pain if we loose that
To be fair searching Netflix titles also doesn’t work on the Virgin Media stream box neither does adding Netflix shows to your watchlist. Not sure who’s at fault here but I’d guess at Netflix not wanting you to search or add to watchlist outside of their own app.

lemarsh 01-10-2022 11:14
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
ok - but i could have (and did have before i lost them, which i knew would happen) Netflix series links, which each episode. But looks like that feature has gone. Pity
See I can do Dinsey+ watchlists, although not sure what a watchlist is so far!

RobboEdin 01-10-2022 11:36
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Try navigating to the drop-down that says ‘All’ and change it to ‘Netflix’.
Netflix want to be searched separately.

nashville 01-10-2022 15:42
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Just received a new Virgin box today. an upgrade from Tivo . We will fit it later. I hope there is no problems

OLD BOY 03-10-2022 19:35
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36135602)
To be fair searching Netflix titles also doesn’t work on the Virgin Media stream box neither does adding Netflix shows to your watchlist. Not sure who’s at fault here but I’d guess at Netflix not wanting you to search or add to watchlist outside of their own app.
It was a Netflix decision, although it will be reviewed, apparently. The logic doesn’t make sense. I’m now watching more Prime, StarzPlay and Disney + content and recordings as a result of not having programmes I’ve selected for my watchlist on the Netflix app displayed on the 360. That may lead some to make decisions to cancel Netflix. Ridiculous.

Gavin-D 04-01-2023 15:26
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Free upgrade offers seems to be going out to some existing customers, the offer is a free remote then upgrade your V6

Mr K 07-01-2023 11:14
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 36143106)
Free upgrade offers seems to be going out to some existing customers, the offer is a free remote then upgrade your V6
TV360 sounds like more of a downgrade to me. Beware of false prophets offering gifts...

denphone 07-01-2023 17:10
Re: Virgin TV 360 users (Horizon)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36143309)
TV360 sounds like more of a downgrade to me. Beware of false prophets offering gifts...
l much prefer the V6 personally.


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