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heero_yuy 18-03-2020 17:11

Re: Coronavirus
 
Eastenders to be rationed. I wonder how many will get withdrawal symptoms.

Never watch soaps anyway.

denphone 18-03-2020 17:18

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36027938)
Eastenders to be rationed. I wonder how many will get withdrawal symptoms.

Never watch soaps anyway.

A certain amount of yet to be aired episodes would have been filmed months ago but how many l am not sure.

RichardCoulter 18-03-2020 17:19

Re: Coronavirus
 
Ocado has closed its website to all orders *until Saturday* as it struggles to cope with huge spike in orders. It shut down its app earlier. Existing orders will be delivered and there’s a cap on handgel, cleaning products and loo roll to one or two per order.

On TV now: Schools to close on Friday until further notice.

denphone 18-03-2020 17:21

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gba93 (Post 36027908)
UK education secretary to make statement at 17:00GMT

Looks like you were right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51939591

Schools to close from this Friday just announced by the Education secretary.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51939591

Paul 18-03-2020 17:26

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36027876)
The streets are empty but the supermarkets are rammed this is not isolation.

Funny you should mention that.

My wife went to Morrisons this morning (as usual), it was packed. :(
I went to the pub this afternoon to get my dinner, it was almost empty. :erm:

So remind me again who was at the higher risk ? :dozey:

peanut 18-03-2020 17:29

Re: Coronavirus
 
Schools to close but not for kids with parents that are 'key workers'. Who are classed as key workers. Supermarket staff? They are right in the thick of it and should be classed as key workers.

denphone 18-03-2020 17:46

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36027943)
Schools to close but not for kids with parents that are 'key workers'. Who are classed as key workers. Supermarket staff? They are right in the thick of it and should be classed as key workers.

Indeed supermarket staff are very important in these times and should be classed as key workers as you can't feed the nation otherwise..

heero_yuy 18-03-2020 17:48

Re: Coronavirus
 
My local was pretty sparse but in mid afternoon that's not unusual. Easy to be 2m+ from the nearest person. Went to Sainsbury's afterwards and the place had been stripped. Even the wine aisle was damaged.

Good thing I keep well stocked cupboards and freezers. Probably got a dozen different types of pasta and noodles, I like to have a choice. Only real pain is lack of fresh veg: I wanted an Iceberg lettuce but made do with a couple of little gem. Very similar. No whole mushrooms but got a punnet of ready sliced. Mainly get cooked down with noodles and other flavourings.

denphone 18-03-2020 17:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36027946)
My local was pretty sparse but in mid afternoon that's not unusual. Easy to be 2m+ from the nearest person. Went to Sainsbury's afterwards and the place had been stripped. Even the wine aisle was damaged.

Good thing I keep well stocked cupboards and freezers. Probably got a dozen different types of pasta and noodles, I like to have a choice. Only real pain is lack of fresh veg: I wanted an Iceberg lettuce but made do with a couple of little gem. Very similar. No whole mushrooms but got a punnet of ready sliced. Mainly get cooked down with noodles and other flavourings.

Frozen veg is just as good heero if you can get it.

peanut 18-03-2020 17:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
If all you worry about is lettuce and mushrooms.... Wow.

heero_yuy 18-03-2020 18:07

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Quote from denphone: Frozen veg is just as good heero if you can get it.
Frozen cabs were also stripped.

Quote:

Quote from peanut: If all you worry about is lettuce and mushrooms.... Wow.
I like to keep things well stocked as you never know what is around the corner. They had someone on the radio lunchtime complaining they only had 3 days food in the house. WTF.

We probably have enough for 4 months.

peanut 18-03-2020 18:08

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36027953)
Frozen cabs were also stripped.



I like to keep things well stocked as you never know what is around the corner. They had someone on the radio lunchtime complaining they only had 3 days food in the house. WTF.

We probably have enough for 4 months.

How many days does a food parcel last from a food bank?

heero_yuy 18-03-2020 18:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
One thing I did notice in the store was the food donation box had nothing in it. Normally has quite a lot of stuff.

peanut 18-03-2020 18:16

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36027956)
One thing I did notice in the store was the food donation box had nothing in it. Normally has quite a lot of stuff.

You've got 4 months worth, did you put anything in the box? Is this a wind up?

heero_yuy 18-03-2020 18:17

Re: Coronavirus
 
Even if I was minded to there wasn't anything useful in the store buy and put in the box.

pip08456 18-03-2020 18:22

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36027955)
How many days does a food parcel last from a food bank?

https://vale.foodbank.org.uk/get-hel...a-food-parcel/

peanut 18-03-2020 18:27

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36027960)

It was a rhetorical question... :rolleyes: Though that it was blatantly obvious..

pip08456 18-03-2020 18:35

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36027961)
It was a rhetorical question... :rolleyes: Though that it was blatantly obvious..

There are others who may wish to know. No need to get on your high horse.

Chad 18-03-2020 18:39

Re: Coronavirus
 
Chinook and Apache helicopters apparently arriving and departing Edinburgh Airport dispatching troops. Reports of military vehicles full of soldiers on motorways surrounding Edinburgh and Glasgow

pip08456 18-03-2020 18:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Chris 18-03-2020 19:49

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36027944)
Indeed supermarket staff are very important in these times and should be classed as key workers as you can't feed the nation otherwise..

Err no. No disrespect to them but most most supermarket work is unskilled or low skilled, many of them work variable hours that can be increased and additional casual labour can easily be procured. Especially as other sectors of the economy are now making large numbers of people redundant. Supermarket staff are not key workers.

NHS staff on the other hand are with only relatively few exceptions skilled, highly skilled or professionally qualified and their absence at a time like this will not lengthen food queues, it will put lives at direct mortal risk.

There is no comparison here whatsoever.

Hugh 18-03-2020 19:52

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 36027965)
Chinook and Apache helicopters apparently arriving and departing Edinburgh Airport dispatching troops. Reports of military vehicles full of soldiers on motorways surrounding Edinburgh and Glasgow

Any links, otherwise this is just scaremongering.

Apache helicopters are used for close-air support ground-attack roles - unless there has been a zombie outbreak in Glasgow (I know, how could you tell?), it’s unlikely they would be deployed on mainland U.K..

peanut 18-03-2020 19:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36027973)
Err no. No disrespect to them but most most supermarket work is unskilled or low skilled, many of them work variable hours that can be increased and additional casual labour can easily be procured. Especially as other sectors of the economy are now making large numbers of people redundant. Supermarket staff are not key workers.

NHS staff on the other hand are with only relatively few exceptions skilled, highly skilled or professionally qualified and their absence at a time like this will not lengthen food queues, it will put lives at direct mortal risk.

There is no comparison here whatsoever.

I'm sure I heard Supermarket delivery drivers will be classed as key workers, and on some news sites supermarket workers will be too.

Chad 18-03-2020 20:09

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36027974)
Any links, otherwise this is just scaremongering.

Apache helicopters are used for close-air support ground-attack roles - unless there has been a zombie outbreak in Glasgow (I know, how could you tell?), it’s unlikely they would be deployed on mainland U.K..

Sorry no links or proof. Just passing on what I heard. 3rd hand news from an employee of the airport. It could all be poppy cock. I

pip08456 18-03-2020 20:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36027973)
Err no. No disrespect to them but most most supermarket work is unskilled or low skilled, many of them work variable hours that can be increased and additional casual labour can easily be procured. Especially as other sectors of the economy are now making large numbers of people redundant. Supermarket staff are not key workers.

NHS staff on the other hand are with only relatively few exceptions skilled, highly skilled or professionally qualified and their absence at a time like this will not lengthen food queues, it will put lives at direct mortal risk.

There is no comparison here whatsoever.

So does this mean that in some areas of the economy key staff are being laid off and those unskilled/low skilled are being reilied upon to keep the nation fed?

djfunkdup 18-03-2020 20:18

Re: Coronavirus
 
My pal from Erskine just outside Glasgow and beside Glasgow airport just messaged to say at least 8 army helicopters just flew over her house heading for the airport. So maybe the reports of them at Edinburgh airport as well are indeed Correct ..

Henkesghost 18-03-2020 20:24

Re: Coronavirus
 
Have tried to carry on pretty much as normal but have the distinct feeling that the option to do that is about to be taken away.

Chris 18-03-2020 20:39

Re: Coronavirus
 
A lot of panic and speculation about the army is being fuelled by the usual ignorant bolleaux doing the rounds on Farcebook and Twatter.

Here’s the UK Defence Journal’s take on that.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-t...-for-lockdown/

djfunkdup 18-03-2020 20:46

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36027986)
A lot of panic and speculation about the army is being fuelled by the usual ignorant bolleaux doing the rounds on Farcebook and Twatter.

Here’s the UK Defence Journal’s take on that.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-t...-for-lockdown/


I don't think its panic when a girl texts to say she saw army helicopters landing at glasgow airport when its usually ryan air and easy jet etc that land and take off from there lol it was just a text to say she saw them heading for the airport that was all really and she found it a bit unusal otherwise she was perfectly calm tbh :)


PS: You could spit onto the runway from Erskine if you were a decent spitter :) . it's right beside the Airport.
you can make up your own mind what the reasons behind it are ;)

Chris 18-03-2020 20:50

Re: Coronavirus
 
There are plenty of army and RAF bases in Scotland. There’s no need for them to use Glasgow Int’l even if they are planning to deploy on riot suppression. It’s unnecessarily complicated and costly for them to use civilian runways when they have their own, conveniently located next to their barracks and their vehicles.

Uncle Peter 18-03-2020 20:53

Re: Coronavirus
 
Chinooks routinely refuel at Aberdeen on training ops, fly down the coast and are often seen zipping around the Forth Estuary

Hugh 18-03-2020 20:53

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36027988)
There are plenty of army and RAF bases in Scotland. There’s no need for them to use Glasgow Int’l even if they are planning to deploy on riot suppression. It’s unnecessarily complicated and costly for them to use civilian runways when they have their own, conveniently located next to their barracks and their vehicles.

Also, using an Apache for riot suppression is like using a steamroller to iron your shirt... ;-)

Damien 18-03-2020 21:44

Re: Coronavirus
 
I've got a mate who cleans the grill at a McDonalds frequented quite often by the children of the people who assist middle-management at the MOD. He tells me that the army will be deployed at 24:00 hours (they use military time, that's how you know this story is legit) tonight and they have been given orders to use - and I quote - 'disproportionate overwhelming force' against anyone seen breaking the lockdown.

djfunkdup 18-03-2020 21:45

Re: Coronavirus
 
4 army trucks just been spotted on Govan Road turning into the QEUH. Prob dropping off medical supplies ? Who knows

Damien 18-03-2020 21:45

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36027990)
Also, using an Apache for riot suppression is like using a steamroller to iron your shirt... ;-)


According to my source the Apache is for people spotted coughing.

Hugh 18-03-2020 22:02

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36027993)
According to my source the Apache is for people spotted coughing.

Ah, the thermal imaging confirmation, then the Hellfire to "sterilise" the area (well, from Govan Cross to Elder Street - better to be safe than sorry...).

spiderplant 18-03-2020 22:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36027956)
One thing I did notice in the store was the food donation box had nothing in it. Normally has quite a lot of stuff.

Maybe it had just been emptied? At my local Tesco, the box was overflowing. More pasta in there than on the shelves.

Pierre 18-03-2020 23:23

Re: Coronavirus
 
I’m going to bed. The world will still be there in the morning.

Julian 18-03-2020 23:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
I went to Tesco after work tonight to pick up some Oxo cubes.

I got three boxes and put them on top of each other on the belt at the checkout only to be told I couldn’t have them as I was stockpiling........ :(

RichardCoulter 19-03-2020 03:11

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 36028005)
I went to Tesco after work tonight to pick up some Oxo cubes.

I got three boxes and put them on top of each other on the belt at the checkout only to be told I couldn’t have them as I was stockpiling........ :(

Tesco have sent shareholders (and I assume customers) an email- the jist of which is:

All Tesco stores to start closing at 10pm- no more 24 hour opening.

All Fish/salad/meat/deli counters closed until further notice.

Online customers who can are to be asked to shop instore to free up online delivery slots for elderly/disabled/vulnerable people.

Rationing introduced on goods. Customers will be asked to buy only what they need and max of three items on every grocery item.

Distancing measures to be introduced at checkouts. Customers to be asked to pay by card if they can.

Mon, Wed, Fri 9am to 10am instore will be reserved for elderly/disabled/vulnerable customers.

All multibuy offers immediately cancelled.



So I don't know why you were refused those three items??

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36027986)
A lot of panic and speculation about the army is being fuelled by the usual ignorant bolleaux doing the rounds on Farcebook and Twatter.

Here’s the UK Defence Journal’s take on that.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/no-t...-for-lockdown/

It's now been on the news that 20,000 army personnel are on standby. It was said that they are going to assist the police and will shortly be taking over the guarding of no 10.

The PM looked tired, stressed and confused at todays briefing- it must be a tremendous burden having this responsibility on his mind, so he probably isn't sleeping.

As he will obviously be taking advice from experts, we are now effectively in a wartime situation, party political dogma has been ripped up and opposition parties have dropped rivalries in an effort to help as much as they can I think that it might now be an idea to form a coalition government of solidarity.

Chris 19-03-2020 08:13

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36028007)
Tesco have sent shareholders (and I assume customers) an email- the jist of which is:

All Tesco stores to start closing at 10pm- no more 24 hour opening.

All Fish/salad/meat/deli counters closed until further notice.

Online customers who can are to be asked to shop instore to free up online delivery slots for elderly/disabled/vulnerable people.

Rationing introduced on goods. Customers will be asked to buy only what they need and max of three items on every grocery item.

Distancing measures to be introduced at checkouts. Customers to be asked to pay by card if they can.

Mon, Wed, Fri 9am to 10am instore will be reserved for elderly/disabled/vulnerable customers.

All multibuy offers immediately cancelled.



So I don't know why you were refused those three items??

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It's now been on the news that 20,000 army personnel are on standby. It was said that they are going to assist the police and will shortly be taking over the guarding of no 10.

The PM looked tired, stressed and confused at todays briefing- it must be a tremendous burden having this responsibility on his mind, so he probably isn't sleeping.

As he will obviously be taking advice from experts, we are now effectively in a wartime situation, party political dogma has been ripped up and opposition parties have dropped rivalries in an effort to help as much as they can I think that it might now be an idea to form a coalition government of solidarity.

I have no doubt that Boris has his best biro poised over the Civil Contingencies Act as we speak. There is obviously a risk that critical services are going to run short of personnel if too many people are off sick at once. What is obviously fanciful is the idea that the army is flying front line combat hardware into civilian airports, or using heavy lift helicopters to drop personnel or equipment off in our cities. This isn’t Kandahar. They can just use the motorways.

Sephiroth 19-03-2020 08:25

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36028007)
<SNIP>

As he will obviously be taking advice from experts, we are now effectively in a wartime situation, party political dogma has been ripped up and opposition parties have dropped rivalries in an effort to help as much as they can I think that it might now be an idea to form a coalition government of solidarity.

I'm astonished at your suggestion. Have you really thought this through?

We have a parliament of national unity at the moment and a Labour leadership/party with vitriolic hate of the governing party and its leadership. There is absolutely no need for a coalition government.

It is a pity that you came up with this ludicrous suggestion because I know you want to be taken seriously.


Hugh 19-03-2020 09:01

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36028011)
I have no doubt that Boris has his best biro poised over the Civil Contingencies Act as we speak. There is obviously a risk that critical services are going to run short of personnel if too many people are off sick at once. What is obviously fanciful is the idea that the army is flying front line combat hardware into civilian airports, or using heavy lift helicopters to drop personnel or equipment off in our cities. This isn’t Kandahar.. They can just use the motorways.

Nitshill (in Glasgow) used to be described as "Beirut without the sunshine’*

*(late 70s/early 80s when the Lebanese Civil War was happening)

downquark1 19-03-2020 11:09

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36028012)
I'm astonished at your suggestion. Have you really thought this through?

We have a parliament of national unity at the moment and a Labour leadership/party with vitriolic hate of the governing party and its leadership. There is absolutely no need for a coalition government.

It is a pity that you came up with this ludicrous suggestion because I know you want to be taken seriously.


Boris has almost turned the country into a communist dictatorship overnight and McDonnell is still complaining he should just nationalise everything. The only thing stopping me from freaking out is the belief Boris will at least try to put things back to normal after this is over.

mrmistoffelees 19-03-2020 11:17

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36028024)
Boris has almost turned the country into a communist dictatorship overnight and McDonnell is still complaining he should just nationalise everything. The only thing stopping me from freaking out is the belief Boris will at least try to put things back to normal after this is over.

People are openly flouting government advice thinking 'it won't happen to them' (see people celebrating St. Patricks day in pubs as an example) and they're either to thick to realise or don't care about the potential consequences of their actions on others.

I'm no Boris fan, but what do you expect him to do?

denphone 19-03-2020 11:17

Re: Coronavirus
 
It seems lockdown in London is pretty inevitable now within days as its highly likely the supermarkets there will have Police support as well given the great gravity of the crisis.

downquark1 19-03-2020 11:22

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36028025)
People are openly flouting government advice thinking 'it won't happen to them' (see people celebrating St. Patricks day in pubs as an example) and they're either to thick to realise or don't care about the potential consequences of their actions on others.

I'm no Boris fan, but what do you expect him to do?

I'm not disputing this is necessary, but governments have a habit of being slow to return power (a la WWII). A labour government would be inclined to be far slower.

mrmistoffelees 19-03-2020 11:41

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36028027)
I'm not disputing this is necessary, but governments have a habit of being slow to return power (a la WWII). A labour government would be inclined to be far slower.


So, if it's necessary we implement it and then we have to deal with the consequences later.

This is the reality in which we are living

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and here is why it's necessary

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/19/toile...-6am-12421784/

Hugh 19-03-2020 11:48

Re: Coronavirus
 
This made me chuckle...

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/...SbsX2T5t_J1pNE
Quote:

Waitrose limits food sales to people with detached houses

ANYONE who does not live in a detached house will be barred from shopping in Waitrose during the coronavirus crisis.

As the pandemic continues to disrupt shopping, the supermarket has introduced restrictions to ensure only ‘their kind of people’ stockpile its overpriced items.

Waitrose & Partners director Denys Finch Hatton said: “Until now we’ve been incredibly generous by letting the riff-raff browse our shelves, fondle our locally-sourced produce and drink from our KeepCups. But desperate times call for desperate measures.

“We’re slamming the door on the hoi polloi who don’t live in standalone domiciles. It’s not like the plebs in their terraced shoeboxes appreciate our vermicelli nests anyway.

“Shoppers will need to present mortgage documents, floor plans and photographs of their home interiors before being allowed to shop. If we don’t like the sound of your postcode we’ll happily turn you away.”

Aspirational semi-detached homeowner Emma Bradford said: “Where am I meant to get my ridiculously expensive lardons from now?”

Dude111 19-03-2020 12:00

This whole thing is quite nerve racking...


I hope everyone stays ok!!

tweetiepooh 19-03-2020 12:25

Re: Coronavirus
 
Just had a nice call to my 81 yr young mum. She is well.

She shared that my sister who runs a small cafe was worried that she would have to let staff go as people aren't coming in for evening meals. So she started to look at deliveries to elderly in village starting with one or two then expanding if interest increased. She now has to venture out to get more stock as demand has gone through the roof and others in village have offered to deliver for free.
So she can keep going while also supporting vulnerable people and the village will keep their cafe and folk keep working. Much better than the me first shown in the media and in the supermarkets.

Hugh 19-03-2020 13:31

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Nice letter (in my email) from the Morrisons CEO.

joglynne 19-03-2020 13:36

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh (Post 36028044)
Just had a nice call to my 81 yr young mum. She is well.

She shared that my sister who runs a small cafe was worried that she would have to let staff go as people aren't coming in for evening meals. So she started to look at deliveries to elderly in village starting with one or two then expanding if interest increased. She now has to venture out to get more stock as demand has gone through the roof and others in village have offered to deliver for free.
So she can keep going while also supporting vulnerable people and the village will keep their cafe and folk keep working. Much better than the me first shown in the media and in the supermarkets.

I like the sound of your sister. A win win solution to a problem at a time when everything seems to be going downhill gives me hope.

Paul 19-03-2020 14:51

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028049)
Nice letter (in my email) from the Morrisons CEO.

You work for Morrisons ?

Hugh 19-03-2020 14:57

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36028055)
You work for Morrisons ?

No, I have an online shopping account, so I assume it was sent to all customers who have one.

denphone 19-03-2020 15:15

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028056)
No, I have an online shopping account, so I assume it was sent to all customers who have one.

Yes it was Hugh as we had several email messages from different supermarkets.

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Coronavirus deaths in England rise to 128.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...o-128-11960226

Quote:

The number of people who have died after contracting coronavirus in England has risen to 128 - an increase of 29 in 24 hours..

joglynne 19-03-2020 16:00

Re: Coronavirus
 
Interesting article
Quote:

How huge regional differences in intensive care bed numbers threaten coronavirus postcode lottery
Those living in rural areas, the south west and midlands are most vulnerable, while London is best equipped


Snippet .....We know the NHS as a whole has too little capacity to cope with the coronavirus outbreak. That’s why all hospitals were on Tuesday ordered to send “medically fit” patients home and cancel all non-urgent operations, moves which will impact tens of thousands.

“Covid-19 presents the NHS with arguably the greatest challenge it has faced since its creation”, said its boss Simon Stevens, in a letter to all trust and hospital chief executives.

Despite such announcements, it’s a mistake to think of the NHS as a single service. It is anything but. Health care in the UK is run independently in each of the four nations. Even in England, the service Mr Stevens’ presides over, the NHS is not really one entity run and controlled from the centre. In reality it's a federation of sometimes competing services.

The analysis below showing huge regional variation in the NHS’s ability to respond to the Covid-19 outbreak is partly explained by this and partly by the nature of the virus itself.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...bers-threaten/

RichardCoulter 19-03-2020 17:31

Re: Coronavirus
 
Aldi stores are normally open until 10pm Monday to Saturday. From Friday, this will be cut back until 8pm until further notice.

Sunday opening hours remain the same at 10am to 4pm, or 10am to 6pm in Scotland.

heero_yuy 19-03-2020 18:23

Re: Coronavirus
 
Up at the local today for a couple of pints and one of the regulars was getting 1/2 a dozen eggs from the kitchen staff. I guess trade supplies are getting through OK.

If this keeps up the black marketeers will have a field day.

papa smurf 19-03-2020 18:32

Re: Coronavirus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36028065)
Up at the local today for a couple of pints and one of the regulars was getting 1/2 a dozen eggs from the kitchen staff. I guess trade supplies are getting through OK.

If this keeps up the black marketeers will have a field day.

I managed to get 15 eggs today if i had some flour i could have Yorkshire pud.


Meanwhile Bus services are to be cut back from Monday to 7am -7pm i suppose if you work outside those hours your walking.


https://www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/n...hanges-3965131

Hugh 19-03-2020 18:53

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36028065)
Up at the local today for a couple of pints and one of the regulars was getting 1/2 a dozen eggs from the kitchen staff. I guess trade supplies are getting through OK.

If this keeps up the black marketeers will have a field day.

FYI...

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1584643989

btw, there are 10 confirmed cases in West Sussex.

RichardCoulter 19-03-2020 18:54

Re: Coronavirus
 
Ours has gone to a Saturday service all week. BBC News says trains will be running a Sunday service.

London Underground ask people not to use them to allow key workers to get to work. 40 stations have been closed.

People have turned to using kitchen towel instead of toilet paper; this blocks up the sewage pipes, so It's best to put it into a bin. Reminds me of going to Turkey!

denphone 19-03-2020 18:58

Re: Coronavirus
 
We just had a order delivered from one of the supermarkets and 17 items were out of stock or were not able to be substituted.

heero_yuy 19-03-2020 19:10

Re: Coronavirus
 
@Hugh. Being in the local at least 2m away from the nearest punter is much less risky than going to the supermarket with those parents of snotty nosed children that are virus factories.

pip08456 19-03-2020 19:26

Re: Coronavirus
 
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Message from Her Maj.

Hugh 19-03-2020 19:59

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Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36028071)
@Hugh. Being in the local at least 2m away from the nearest punter is much less risky than going to the supermarket with those parents of snotty nosed children that are virus factories.

It’s not an either/or situation- the more people mix, the higher the transmission rate...

As HMaj said https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...3&d=1584648069

RichardCoulter 19-03-2020 20:00

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36028072)
Message from Her Maj.

I hope she signed today's new law before she turned off the water and cancelled the papers at Buckingham Palace.

Will BJ still be having weekly meeting.with the Queen? Surely not :confused:

Mr K 19-03-2020 20:04

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We just had a order delivered from one of the supermarkets and 17 items were out of stock or were not able to be substituted.

But did you get bog roll Den is the big question ?

Paul 19-03-2020 20:37

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028056)
No, I have an online shopping account, so I assume it was sent to all customers who have one.

As do I, just not received that particular email yet. :)

nomadking 19-03-2020 20:44

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36028082)
As do I, just not received that particular email yet. :)

Might depend on your marketing preference settings.

Paul 19-03-2020 20:50

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36028083)
Might depend on your marketing preference settings.

Possibly.


Interesting site for stats ;

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

denphone 19-03-2020 21:08

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36028077)
But did you get bog roll Den is the big question ?

We ordered some of that 2 weeks ago with several marketplace sellers so there is no problem there.

Hugh 20-03-2020 09:07

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https://www.politico.com/states/cali...ckdown-1268248
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BERKELEY — Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday ordered California's nearly 40 million residents to stay home, making it the first state to impose that strict mandate on all residents to counteract a looming surge of new infections.

The order takes effect immediately and remains in place "until further notice." Californians are not allowed to leave home except for essential purposes. They are allowed to purchase groceries, prescriptions and health care, as well as commute to jobs deemed essential.

heero_yuy 20-03-2020 10:45

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Nurse Dawn Bilbrough appeals for panic buying to stop after a 48 hour shift and no food in the supermarket:


denphone 20-03-2020 10:50

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Man arrested for failing to self-isolate on the Isle of Man.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...f-man-11960799

tweetiepooh 20-03-2020 11:04

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Wife just back from Sainsbury's doing small shop for us and also for 2 families self-isolating (one poor lady has 4 ADHD kids all at home). Fruit/veg OK but no pasta, rice, sliced bread. Looking on line and rice is really short or being priced up so high - do we need anti gouging laws?
She now just down to Waitrose for our weekend supplies, we are trying to keep to normal just buy as need. Not risking Aldi.

Chris 20-03-2020 11:09

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Just had my weekly visit from a very frazzled Asda delivery man who has horror stories a-plenty from his base supermarket, where they’re queueing round the block from dawn, despite the ban on non-pensioners entering the shop for the first hour, and entire families (adults and kids) are attending the shop together so they can load 4 or 5 trolleys with stuff.

We as a nation have disgraced ourselves this week.

papa smurf 20-03-2020 11:29

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36028124)
Just had my weekly visit from a very frazzled Asda delivery man who has horror stories a-plenty from his base supermarket, where they’re queueing round the block from dawn, despite the ban on non-pensioners entering the shop for the first hour, and entire families (adults and kids) are attending the shop together so they can load 4 or 5 trolleys with stuff.

We as a nation have disgraced ourselves this week.

If you haven't been in a supermarket lately you would be horrified at what's going on,i haven't seen anything like it in my lifetime,but on the plus side you're completely safe if you have over 50 toilet rolls :(

denphone 20-03-2020 12:05

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36028128)
If you haven't been in a supermarket lately you would be horrified at what's going on,i haven't seen anything like it in my lifetime,but on the plus side you're completely safe if you have over 50 toilet rolls :(

The Sainsburys delivery man who came yesterday was pretty stressed because as soon as we opened the door he kept apoligising to us but we told him that it is not your fault and we understood the situation fully.

In situations like this you see who are the selfish *******s and those who care about their community and fellow humans.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36028128)
If you haven't been in a supermarket lately you would be horrified at what's going on,i haven't seen anything like it in my lifetime,but on the plus side you're completely safe if you have over 50 toilet rolls :(

This picture summed it up.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp

Chris 20-03-2020 12:07

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36028128)
If you haven't been in a supermarket lately you would be horrified at what's going on,i haven't seen anything like it in my lifetime,but on the plus side you're completely safe if you have over 50 toilet rolls :(

Not for the first time I’m very glad I live a little way outside of what passes for “civilisation”. We haven’t done a full-scale family shop in a supermarket in years, just the occasional bits and pieces. The main shop always comes weekly on the Asda van.

Maggy 20-03-2020 12:07

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Thank heavens for our local independent bakery and fruit and veg shop who will deliver.

papa smurf 20-03-2020 12:23

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36028132)
Thank heavens for our local independent bakery and fruit and veg shop who will deliver.

our local bakery /butchers/ fruit and veg shop have all gone,this is a wake up call to support local shops.

Ken W 20-03-2020 12:23

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Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36028132)
Thank heavens for our local independent bakery and fruit and veg shop who will deliver.



The local Sainsburys are not delivering for 5 weeks as they are full with delivery bookings

denphone 20-03-2020 12:43

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This is a simple but effective idea.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/h...box=1584706112

joglynne 20-03-2020 12:45

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We have just signed up with Creamline (covers Manchester and the North West) on the recommendation of a neighbour who has been using them for a couple of years. Well worth having a look what they deliver if you live in their area.

denphone 20-03-2020 12:53

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Social distancing restrictions need to be in place for "at least most of a year", according to scientists advising the government.


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...isers-11960920

Hugh 20-03-2020 12:54

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To support our local restaurant, we're ordering a delivery meal tonight (we're "socially distancing" because 4 days ago we passed through multiple busy airports and travelled on packed airplanes, so if we have caught it, we don't want to infect others whilst we (if we are) in the initial contagious stage).

nomadking 20-03-2020 13:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36028140)
Social distancing restrictions need to be in place for "at least most of a year", according to scientists advising the government.


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...isers-11960920

Tell that to the teenagers out there. Even if you keep your distance from them, they move around so much it becomes irrelevant.

pip08456 20-03-2020 13:51

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I can't see people keeping social distancing up for nearly a year. We are by nature social animals.

denphone 20-03-2020 14:01

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36028146)
I can't see people keeping social distancing up for nearly a year. We are by nature social animals.

The government has to lead on this and that means ruling nothing out if the need arises.

Advice has obviously not worked up to now.

nomadking 20-03-2020 14:09

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36028146)
I can't see people keeping social distancing up for nearly a year. We are by nature social animals.

What is the problem with staying still for a few minutes?:rolleyes:

jonbxx 20-03-2020 14:24

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Woo, finally, our office has finally decided that people don't need to work there if there is any way that they can work remotely! It seems like a senior HR manager was resistant to this based on a call yesterday where he said that working from home was not showing full commitment. Read the room sir!

Apparently, I am a key worker and could send my kids to school if I wanted. I don't see any need as I work from home anyway but it has been fun to wind them up about it. They have school provided iPads or Chromebooks and they have been assigned work to do so I will be cracking the whip from home :-)

Hugh 20-03-2020 14:25

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Two things I saw on social media today, one funny, one serious.

RichardCoulter 20-03-2020 14:32

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36028141)
To support our local restaurant, we're ordering a delivery meal tonight (we're "socially distancing" because 4 days ago we passed through multiple busy airports and travelled on packed airplanes, so if we have caught it, we don't want to infect others whilst we (if we are) in the initial contagious stage).

Let's hope to God that you and your good lady are ok. That's a good idea; the Government have relaxed the planning laws to allow bars to do takeaways to help them try and survice.

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People have turned to using kitchen towel instead of toilet paper; this blocks up the sewage pipes, so It's best to put it into a bin. Reminds me of going to Turkey!

I shouldn't have quoted your post Hugh, we need to social distance as much as we can :D

Paul 20-03-2020 14:41

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36028149)
What is the problem with staying still for a few minutes?:rolleyes:

A year isnt exactly a few minutes. :dozey:

I dont see how it would be practical to follow the current "advice" for a year.

Business would collapse, and how would we afford to bail out the owners, the money has to come from taxes, and they are going to take a large hit if people have no jobs anymore etc to pay tax. People will get fed up, then angry, then the riots will start. :erm:

People keep comparing it to the "spirit of the war".
In the war period you still had pubs open, plays, concerts etc, you could still go out.

RichardCoulter 20-03-2020 14:44

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Spot on. The future is frightening, even if we get this vile thing under control. They have no alternative but to intervene and borrrow huge amounts of money, if they don't I fear that society will collapse.

Nobody likes borrowing, but if your roof falls off, you have no choice but to use an expensive credit card if that's the only way you can fund repairs.

It's crossed my mind that the Government might even do the unthinkable and legislate to freeze their interest payments or write off some of the debt in the same way that debt councillors do for individuals in dire financial circumstances. Experts say that this crisis is like 9/11 and the banking crisis combined.

1andrew1 20-03-2020 15:05

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36028160)
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People keep comparing it to the "spirit of the war".
In the war period you still had pubs open, plays, concerts etc, you could still go out.

Exactly. As others have said, you can't catch the blitz so you could still go out.

denphone 20-03-2020 15:40

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A further 39 people who have been diagnosed with the coronavirus have died, NHS England has announced. The total death toll now stands at 167.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...ools-lockdown/

Dude111 20-03-2020 15:49

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Originally Posted by Paul
I dont see how it would be practical to follow the current "advice" for a year.

Neither Do I.... Many think this is being way overblown.......

I dunno........

RichardCoulter 20-03-2020 15:51

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I'm frightend tbh, haven't slept for days and my anxiety levels have never been higher. Staff are worried that they will lose pay and have to feed their families and pay their bills, but we have to do this. I know everyone has different views, which I respect, but i've been praying and begging God to help us. I'm losing money, but I couldn't care less.

My stint on this Earth is nearly done, but I feel so sorry for the next generations, even if we find a vaccine, the world's economies are f****d and I fear Paul is right about riots.

I keep thinking about people who I have fallen out with in life and online and them with me for what are now trivialities in comparison and now realise that these are unimportant.

Whatever and whoever we are, we are going to have to stick together as it's our only hope.


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