Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36039710)

​There are going to be three satellite feeds for Pick. Pick SD, Pick HD and Pick alternate.

Apparently, Pick HD & SD will show the FTA football and Pick alternate will be used for the ROI where the football won't be shown on it (this will show 'Caught on Dashcam' instead).

Cheeky Angus and I think that VM will show the Sky Sports feed on channel 100 when the free football is on. I assume that this will be in HD as those wanting to watch it in SD could do so on Pick.

I wonder if VM Ireland will have to temporarily swap their feed to Pick alternate??

Just to confuse matters even more, it's been said that the FTA football will also be shown on the encrypted Sky One! Will VM have to temporarily black out Sky One in the ROI when the football is on!?

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36039726)

If the games are on Sky One HD why would Virgin do anything?

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36039730)

Well Sky1 HD isn't on all TV tiers and Pick HD existing is clearly to allow a wider audience to watch in HD. So VM either need to allow Pick HD on their platform or have a temporary Free period, say on Channel 100 like they often do for events, for any HD channel of Sky's when the matches are on.

Originally Posted by biddy (Post 36039724)

I checked out All4 yesterday and it's not got all the content. I specifically went looking for Scrubs and it tells you to watch it on a PC or Mobile.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36039805)

i know! people keep saying stuff about its not fully integrated yet but if we now have the web app....whats missing?!?

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36039808)

ER is missing, too. Both ER and Scrubs are featured in Virgin’s All 4 Press Release

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36039821)

You could report it to the 4Viewers team:

https://www.channel4.com/4viewers/contact-us

It seems odd that programmes specifically mentioned in VM's press release would be missing.

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36040039)

I’m noticing the PickTV picture On 165 is now HD

No EPG update as of yet but its looking a lot better during ads rather than the older program which is on just now.

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36040057)

I see what you mean ScottishSteve, I put it on this morning.

JJ20X on Forum Box says there is a "new version" and one marked "old" now.

Just looked on DigitalBitRate and there is a closed Pick stream and an active one that has a picture resolution that's HD.
https://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.p...&sec=0&lang=en

The channel name still doesn't say HD yet.

Originally Posted by ScottishSteve (Post 36040062)

Strangely enough the Freesat version is the same and doesn’t say HD

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36040069)

They haven't put the HD tag on the channel either. I press Blue to filter the guide to HD-only and it doesn't show. It looks like the EPG data is the old Pick, as none of the shows say HD either. Mine is no longer markes as a Favourite channel so I did have to re-add it, which makes sense as that normally happens in this sort of situation.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36040077)

There is some uncertainty about whether Pick will be re-branding to Sky Pick, so they may be waiting until then before updating the channel name and logo to include HD.

It's not unheard of for TV channels to broadcast in HD but not include HD in their name or logo, such as the Smithsonian Channel and Racing TV.

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36040105)

Well done SonicMaster! Your continual effort on the official VM forums to get these corrected is paying off. Much appreciated.:)

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36040287)

Due to the stream Virgin Media has launch Pick HD on it look like Sky will stop broadcasting Pick HD when the football ends.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36040287)

Due to the stream Virgin Media has launch Pick HD on it look like Sky will stop broadcasting Pick HD when the football ends.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36040291)

Wow, we really have reached the heights of top class entertainment....:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36040296)

It's so that Virgin Media customers on lower packages can enjoy the free-to-air Premier League games in HD. Seems a positive thing to me.

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 36040295)

That's terrible - Not that I watch Pick much, but surely they should do away with the SD channel and keep the HD one.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36040362)

As you may know 4Seven HD is set to close on Freeview HD this coming Monday (June 22nd) but base on TiVo listings 4Seven HD will still be on Virgin Media UK after Monday (At time of posting listings are up to June 27th.) Making Virgin Media the only UK network to broadcast 4Seven HD on Virgin UK Channel 203.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36040686)

MTV Pride now on channel 318, it has taken over from MTV 00s and will revert to MTV OMG on 29/06.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36040687)

Deary me....:rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 36040733)

Anyone noticed the red button isn't working on UKTV channels?

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36040734)

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

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Yes, they removed it rather than adding the missing shortcut to the Yesterday content when I reported to them.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36040734)

What exactly is that supposed to mean?

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Yes, they removed it rather than adding the missing shortcut to the Yesterday content when I reported to them.

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36040404)

VM CEO be like "hey we have an exclusive let's pop another £7p/m on peoples bills"

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36040874)

That's a cheap shot. I know it's a joke but this kind of comment is well wide of the mark. Does anybody actually pay more these days for VM TV than they did a few years ago? I pay less than £100 a month for the full TV and broadband and have an unlimited mobile SIM too.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040875)

Me too! I think VM is excellent value compared with Sky.

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36040874)

That's a cheap shot. I know it's a joke but this kind of comment is well wide of the mark. Does anybody actually pay more these days for VM TV than they did a few years ago? I pay less than £100 a month for the full TV and broadband and have an unlimited mobile SIM too.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040875)

Me too! I think VM is excellent value compared with Sky.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040875)

Me too! I think VM is excellent value compared with Sky.

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36040886)

I beg to differ all of SKY TV for me £37p/m this includes 2 mini q boxes the 1tb uhd skyq sky cinema, sports, entertainment + netflix and disney+ yes i know it's a offer but similar of vm was going to be £105p/m including bb.
BB i get from plusnet so bt sports + plusnet tv is only £15p/m in hd they threw hd in for free with bb it's £40p/m again offer so in total £77p/m.
So for me a combo of plusnet + SKY is incredible value, ofcourse i dread to think what it'd be at full price lol.

Jokes and jibes aside all companies have their plus and negative points except talktalk theirs is just negative.
I will always go for who offers me the best deal for my needs.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040928)

You can’t compare special offers on one platform with the standard price on another. The standard price for all the standard channels, BT Sport, Sky Sports and Sky Cinema and two V6 boxes, with super fast broadband and free landline calls is £99 on VM. Last time I looked, it was £130 on Sky, although that’s probably changed with the recent Sky/BT deal. Incidentally, the deal you quoted for Sky was for TV only.

Virgin do special offers, too.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040928)

You can’t compare special offers on one platform with the standard price on another. The standard price for all the standard channels, BT Sport, Sky Sports and Sky Cinema and two V6 boxes, with super fast broadband and free landline calls is £99 on VM. Last time I looked, it was £130 on Sky, although that’s probably changed with the recent Sky/BT deal. Incidentally, the deal you quoted for Sky was for TV only.

Virgin do special offers, too.

Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 36040944)

My virgin was considerably higher than £99pm until I got a substantial discount.

I cannot remember the exact amount off-hand but it is more like £120pm - still a bit cheaper than Sky.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040928)

You can’t compare special offers on one platform with the standard price on another. The standard price for all the standard channels, BT Sport, Sky Sports and Sky Cinema and two V6 boxes, with super fast broadband and free landline calls is £99 on VM. Last time I looked, it was £130 on Sky, although that’s probably changed with the recent Sky/BT deal. Incidentally, the deal you quoted for Sky was for TV only.

Virgin do special offers, too.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36040934)

Virgin are pretty good when it comes to cost where they fall down in our house is the TV side of things.

Originally Posted by Legendkiller2k (Post 36040947)

That quoted by vm to me was apparantly "a very special offer" according to sales guy.
The total was a combination of 2 companies sky offered me BB for £25p/m but i hate site blocking as sometimes linux needs torrents to update which is perfectly legal.
Plusnet as it stands do not block hence why i chose them for BB plus i can use my own router.
Also VM are at the mercy of SKY and BT if both decide they don't want VM to have their channels (very unlikely to happen) then what would vm have to offer?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36040950)

But apart from Sky Atlantic, what other channels worth watching are there? Plenty of junk channels, sure, but I would never watch them, would you?

I prefer the way you can access on demand directly rather than having to download it as you do with Sky. I also do not like the fact that you cannot record anything on the additional mini-boxes.

I'm not sure if you can bookmark programmes on Sky, but that is a very useful feature on the V6. I have about 100 films bookmarked on 'My Shows', alongside my recordings. We have been having 'film matinees' on the rainy days during the lockdown and my wife could not believe the good choice that had been accumulated. We could never have found the disk-space to record that lot!

Also, am I right to say that some channels on Sky have been downgraded to SD? I think VM may have more HD channels than Sky now.

The only thing I would complain about regarding the TV side of VM's operation is the UI, which is a bit outdated now, but that should be resolved with the introduction of Horizon 4 later this year. It's just a shame that the content of the channels has deteriorated so much in the last few years.

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Well, true, but as it will not happen, it is not something to concern VM subscribers. The future is in streaming, anyway.

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 36040952)

I'm more referring to the user interface , Virgin Tivo is now looking dated in my opinion and it seems in some regions their network is up and down like a yo-yo.

I guess its what you get used to , we've had Sky Q since launch so using it is second nature so I'm sure many who have had tivo since launch find it the same. I guess its what suits the individual user the best.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041041)

Contrary to suggestions that it was working as intended, the error has now been fixed.

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36041042)

It was working as intended and it still is. The intention has changed. :)

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041060)

So it was VM's intention to remove access for 6 weeks?

They sure do some strange things, but it's great to have it back.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36041068)

Was this for the same period where the linear channels became available on all tiers? Maybe they had to contractually remove them from VOD in order to move them down??

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041079)

No, it happened when they upgraded the Catch Up from SD to HD. Other channels had their content upgraded at the same time, like FOX, but access to them for Mix TV customers wasn't affected.

On another topic, I noticed the number of apps on the V6 has dropped from 24 to 23. Anyone know what has been removed? It can't be one that I used, but I'm still curious.

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36041178)

Disney Channel, Disney Junior and Disney XD to leave Sky and VM on 1st October, with all first-run content moving to Disney+.

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2...k-disney-plus/

Originally Posted by reddog (Post 36041187)

Why was Boxnation not unlocked for Premier Sports subscribers for the Inter game last night?

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Unlocked.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36041236)

Sky customers will retain content though via Disney+ and Sky Cinema.

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36041259)

They still have to pay the extra for Disney+, don't they?

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36041259)

They still have to pay the extra for Disney+, don't they?

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041264)

Agreed, that statement is a bit misleading.
What makes people retain access to that content is by forking out a further £5pm and subscribing to Disney+. You don't get it by grace of being a Sky customer.
All that Sky customers get extra is the option to have the Disney + app on their Sky Qs.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041264)

Agreed, that statement is a bit misleading.
What makes people retain access to that content is by forking out a further £5pm and subscribing to Disney+. You don't get it by grace of being a Sky customer.
All that Sky customers get extra is the option to have the Disney + app on their Sky Qs.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36041281)

It will be interesting to see what Sky and Virgin do now with the Kids pack, which will be devalued considerably with this change.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36041281)

It will be interesting to see what Sky and Virgin do now with the Kids pack, which will be devalued considerably with this change.

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36041318)

An extra zero after the decimal point is needed against those Disney ratings.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041319)

Yes, excuse the typos!

I would edit the post if CF would let me.

Disney Channel 0.07%
Disney Junior 0.09%
Disney XD 0.03%

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36041344)

Reports say that Sky are set to close Sky Cinema Premier +1 on July 23rd.

Reports also say that Sky will launch Sky Cinema Animation on July 23rd and reports say will be available at no extra cost to all non Cinema customers.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36041355)

Only on Sky AFAIK.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36041344)

Reports say that Sky are set to close Sky Cinema Premier +1 on July 23rd.

Reports also say that Sky will launch Sky Cinema Animation on July 23rd and reports say will be available at no extra cost to all non Cinema customers.

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36041360)

It seems odd to me that Sky would make a premium-branded channel available to all of its customers. My guess is that, either the reports are wrong and it will only be available to Cinema subscribers, or its Sky's way of softening the removal of the Disney channels.

I've only seen the reports on local newspaper websites. If correct, there seems to be a distinct lack of industry coverage of this strategic shift.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36041359)

Like they did with Sky Crime, Sky Comedy, Sky Nature and Sky Documentaries? Sky say the same thing.

I can see JJ20X reporting in early July that Channel C HD or Sky Cinema Animation HD has appeared on "the scanners".

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 36041378)

JJ20X is reporting that Virgin are running two 4K TV channels (they also have unseen channel numbers) tests on their network.

Early signs for Sky UHD?

Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 36041360)

It seems odd to me that Sky would make a premium-branded channel available to all of its customers. My guess is that, either the reports are wrong and it will only be available to Cinema subscribers, or its Sky's way of softening the removal of the Disney channels.

I've only seen the reports on local newspaper websites. If correct, there seems to be a distinct lack of industry coverage of this strategic shift.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041441)

I've noticed that VM has quietly dropped some of their kids on demand content. CITV and 'Virgin TV Kids' are no longer available in On Demand > Kids. I'm not sure if it was there before or not, but CITV isn't in Catch Up.

As a result, the red button menu on channel 700 has a couple of broken links, which result in the user getting bounced back to the menu - 'Playlists' and 'CITV'.

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36041473)

There's still a Kids section under Catch-up>Channels> ITV Hub in Scotland. I'd imagine this goes straight to the app in other parts of the UK as the STVPlayer tile does here under Catch-up>Channels>STVPlayer.

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36039926)

ive contacted them. just seems nonsencial to have so much missing

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041441)

The list of HD channels available on Virgin Media that aren't available on Sky continues to grow, with Sky dropping Animal Planet HD from July 1st.[COLOR="Silver"]

Ideally, they would get Spotify back.

Originally Posted by jobbie8 (Post 36041542)

You would think Sky (and other providers) would be dropping the SD versions over HD versions. Especially nature channels, or is this Sky wanting viewers to switch over to Sky Nature. Now TV removed Nat Geo Wild before Sky Nature launched too.

I wish Spotify would return to Virgin TV. It was the last straw a few years ago for me when they removed the app, I ditched my 3 Tivo's as we used Spotify daily through Tivo and my sound system.

I only got a V6 back because of a Black Friday deal last year. If Virgin added Disney+ and Spotify I would definitely stay in November. I do like everything on one box.

Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36041545)

I’m guessing Sky are no longer subsidising the cost of 3rd party HD channels like they have done in the past so for Discovery et al, it likely makes more sense for them to focus on their flagship linear channels and allow more HD content to be served via on demand only - their new deal with Sky is very much focused on direct to consumer products as well as video on demand so I’m not at all surprised if there is a decision to focus less resource/money on the linear channels.

Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36041655)

Thanks SonicMaster.

The Personal Pick pricing is certainly more sensible and attractive. I wonder how long the legacy tier will last for.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041640)

- No mention of Sky Documentaries HD and Sky Nature HD, which were both included in the Documentaries Pick according to:

https://www.virginmedia.com/content/...s_May_2020.pdf

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36041660)

I think that's the bit that is wrong so I see if I can get it fed back. The press release for them only mentioned Maxit

https://www.virginmedia.com/corporat...aries-channels

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 36041662)

Thanks Ben.

On the Channel Guide it has the '+' for Personal Picks next to both channels.

https://www.virginmedia.com/virgin-t...-channel-guide

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041664)

You should get VM TV free given all the proof-reading you do for them. :angel:

Originally Posted by Bofrok (Post 36041708)

It's been a while since I looked at the Channel Guide and noticed the '+' for Personal Picks is on channels 704-732 for the Maxit package.

Also the HD variants of Sky One, Sky Witness, Sky Crime, Sky Arts and E! are not listed as picks, is that another omission - or me overlooking something?