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pip08456 03-04-2018 15:03
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942438)
I do not agree he has been weak, the stance on North Korea proved the opposite, if the meeting they have planned works out. Other issues have been misguided. His approach to Russia is troubling. Chucking out 60 Russian diplomats and closing a Russian consulate, is not weak either, his new Security Advisor is not Russia friendly, neither is Mike Pompeo, the new Secretary of State.
The most worrying thing about this is that they will allow 60 replacement diplomats to enter making the hoo-ha about expulsion meaningless.

https://voiceofpeopletoday.com/us-ad...ian-diplomats/

1andrew1 03-04-2018 21:01
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35942450)
The most worrying thing about this is that they will allow 60 replacement diplomats to enter making the hoo-ha about expulsion meaningless.

https://voiceofpeopletoday.com/us-ad...ian-diplomats/
Is it just the US that operates that policy or has the rest of the world taken that approach as well?

Meanwhile, Trump is sending the military to guard the Mexican border.
Quote:
“We have very bad laws for our border, and we are going to be doing some things — I’ve been speaking with General Mattis — we’re going to be doing things militarily,” Mr. Trump said at the White House, seated beside the defense secretary at a meeting with visiting leaders of Baltic nations. “Until we can have a wall and proper security, we’re going to be guarding our border with the military. That’s a big step. We really haven’t done that before, or certainly not very much before.”

It was not immediately clear what Mr. Trump meant by the remarks, or what the rationale would be for deploying United States troops to patrol or even seal the border at a time when the numbers of people being apprehended crossing illegally are down to their lowest level since 1971.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/u...T.nav=top-news

Hugh 03-04-2018 21:42
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
If he is sending Military, it will have to be the National Guard or the Coast Guard, as the regular Military isn’t allowed to enforce domestic policies or undertake domestic law enforcement within the USA because of the Posse Comitatus Act.

1andrew1 03-04-2018 21:54
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35942513)
If he is sending Military, it will have to be the National Guard or the Coast Guard, as the regular Military isn’t allowed to enforce domestic policies or undertake domestic law enforcement within the USA because of the Posse Comitatus Act.
For fear of sounding disrespectful, is the National Guard the equivalent of Dad's Army?

Arthurgray50@blu 03-04-2018 22:45
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I have said this before. And l will say again. DT is a BUSINESSMAN and NOT a politician. He will cause major problems in America.
I think the American will see through DT.

What he is doing with the Mexican Border is stopping the work force. When l was in America many years ago. I saw loads of Mexican workers. He is trying to build a major gap between the two countries.

What amazed me was during the election. This was brought up where a property was actually on the border. There back garden was in Mexico. And the front was in American soil. She stated that there are patrols each day, as Mexicans use there garden to get into America. And she is NOT prepared to move or stop the Mexicans get into American.

She believe EVERYONE is equal, and NOT to stop someone looking for work to support there family.

And l personally thought that was brilliant. And that she had the right attitude.
Trump will cause trouble. From what l read in American newspapers. Trump is even thinking of sacking the special counsel, who is investigating the Russian stuff

1andrew1 03-04-2018 23:34
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Will be interesting to see how this goes. I think there is a good degree of sympathy for the US case over the theft of intellectual property rights but this threatens to become a lose-lose situation for both countries.
Quote:
The Trump administration said it will within weeks begin imposing a 25 per cent tariff on 1,333 products from China ranging from industrial robots and electric cars to locomotives, jet engines and snowblowers in retaliation for what it says has been decades of state-backed intellectual property theft by Beijing.
https://www.ft.com/content/2c427f96-...e-e06bde01c544

Mick 04-04-2018 01:37
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
BREAKING: Just in: Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.ba13eececb8b

Hugh 04-04-2018 09:32
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35942514)
For fear of sounding disrespectful, is the National Guard the equivalent of Dad's Army?
No, they are well trained and equipped (NG and National Air Guard units have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan).

Hugh 04-04-2018 16:14
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942536)
BREAKING: Just in: Mueller told Trump’s attorneys the president remains under investigation but is not currently a criminal target.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.ba13eececb8b
From the linked article
Quote:
according to three people familiar with the discussions.
From previous tweets by President Spanky
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Remember, when you hear the words "sources say" from the Fake Media, often times those sources are made up and do not exist.

11:32 AM - 12 Jul 2017
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

With all of its phony unnamed sources & highly slanted & even fraudulent reporting, #Fake News is DISTORTING DEMOCRACY in our country!

12:15 PM - 16 Jul 2017
Also from the linked article
Quote:
Mueller’s description of the president’s status has sparked friction within Trump’s inner circle as his advisers have debated his legal standing. The president and some of his allies seized on the special counsel’s words as an assurance that Trump’s risk of criminal jeopardy is low. Other advisers, however, noted that subjects of investigations can easily become indicted targets — and expressed concern that the special prosecutor was baiting Trump into an interview that could put the president in legal peril.

Mick 04-04-2018 16:31
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh
From previous tweets by President Spanky
Sorry, I don't know who President 'Spanky' is, could get easily confused and think you're talking about Bill Clinton, pretty sure there is a 'maturity' rule somewhere saying people have to refer to things as their proper names... I don't like Labour and referred to them by another name and I got called out for it. I suggest you do the same.

Stephen 04-04-2018 17:21
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942610)
Sorry, I don't know who President 'Spanky' is, could get easily confused and think you're talking about Bill Clinton, pretty sure there is a 'maturity' rule somewhere saying people have to refer to things as their proper names... I don't like Labour and referred to them by another name and I got called out for it. I suggest you do the same.
Funny mentioning Maturity and Trump when talking about his tweets and the names he calls people and generally says silly immature things, lol.

Mick 04-04-2018 18:11
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35942612)
Funny mentioning Maturity and Trump when talking about his tweets and the names he calls people and generally says silly immature things, lol.
What "immature" things has he tweeted ?

Don't post accusations without providing any substance. :rolleyes:

Damien 04-04-2018 18:22
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There was the time he said this news presenter he didn’t like was on her period....

---------- Post added at 18:22 ---------- Previous post was at 18:21 ----------

Or when he said the Boy Scouts leader has told him he made the best speech ever and he didn’t.

Mick 04-04-2018 18:47
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35942615)
There was the time he said this news presenter he didn’t like was on her period....

---------- Post added at 18:22 ---------- Previous post was at 18:21 ----------

Or when he said the Boy Scouts leader has told him he made the best speech ever and he didn’t.
I am talking about tweets that he is being accused of being 'immature', not ones where people want to disagree with what he has posted.

Either way, what Trump posts on Twitter, is Twitters problem to sort. My original post to Hugh still stands, we refer to people/things by their proper names on here. This is not a kindergarten.

Mr K 04-04-2018 19:52
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Lets face it most tweeting is immature and egocentric, it could have been made for Trump.

Mick 04-04-2018 21:57
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I just seen an impressive and sizzling bit of commentary, have to share it here....

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Re: Trump interview w/special counsel as and when it may happen, perhaps all can agree it should be under same terms @TheJusticeDept and FBI gave Hillary Clinton under the Obama Administration:

1. An exoneration letter is drafted in advance. (Former Director of the FBI Comey, Drafted one for Hillary way before ALL interviews were finished)

2. Immunity is given to top Trump aides (and they’re allowed to sit in on interview). (Many of Hillary's Aides were given immunity deals during her investigation).

3. Interview isn’t recorded. (Hillary's was not recorded)

4. Lead official (Mueller) doesn’t attend.

5. #2 official’s family has received large donations from Trump political friends.

6. Prior to the interview, lead official meets privately on plane tarmac with Trump's wife (to discuss grandchildren). (Precisely what happened on a tarmac in Phoenix, when President Bill Clinton met on back of a plane with former U.S Attorney General Loretta Lynch, days before the FBI announced it had concluded Hillary's email investigation, but they were only discussing the grandchildren for 40 minutes apparently).

7. Main interviewer has expressed disdain for Trump’s opponents, such as discussing an “insurance plan” with higher-ups to undermine them. If the same terms aren’t offered...Was Clinton’s interview process unfair? Or is the one proposed for Trump unfair? #FairIsFair

8. As long as they believe Trump didn't intend any harm, he's let off the hook for any violations. (FBI Investigators believed and concluded Hillary Clinton did not cause any harm, sending and receiving classified emails through an insecure server).

9. If Trump becomes a target, it should be referred to as a "matter" not an investigation. (Former U.S Attorney General Loretta Lynch instructed Director Comey not to refer it as a Criminial investigation of Hillary Clinton but to instead call it a 'matter' to the Press).

10. Trump aides should be permitted to destroy subpoenaed or relevant public records and wipe relevant servers with a cloth or something. (33,000 missing emails from Hillary devices were deleted or Acid washed via Bleachbit).
Love it..... :rofl:

Hugh 05-04-2018 08:01
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942610)
Sorry, I don't know who President 'Spanky' is, could get easily confused and think you're talking about Bill Clinton, pretty sure there is a 'maturity' rule somewhere saying people have to refer to things as their proper names... I don't like Labour and referred to them by another name and I got called out for it. I suggest you do the same.
Well, when people post things on threads like “Crooked Hillary", it’s easy to think this is acceptable (all these are in the last two weeks).

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I think it is crazy that Crooked Hillary has her core supporters still 'with her'
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The FISA abuses and the heavy bias with the agents wanting a Crooked Hillary Presidency
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The Fake News Media didn't appear to give a shit back then about the Crooked Clinton empire.
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We know why they did not want it releasing, because it describes the DNC and Crooked Hillary up to no good

Stephen 05-04-2018 09:16
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942613)
What "immature" things has he tweeted ?

Don't post accusations without providing any substance. :rolleyes:
Just look through his public tweets to see many examples of name calling and wild acusations.

you as well have used the term 'crooked Hilary' which is name calling and something you berated an other forum member for.

Pot and Kettle.

Mick 05-04-2018 12:28
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35942685)
Just look through his public tweets to see many examples of name calling and wild acusations.

you as well have used the term 'crooked Hilary' which is name calling and something you berated an other forum member for.

Pot and Kettle.
‘Just look through his tweets’, I have, I have asked for you for examples, do not cop out by saying look at them all. Any way, Regardless. What Trump does on Twitter, is twitters problem. What happens here is ours, or should be!

As for using ‘Crooked Hillary’, it is an accurate description of her. She is Crooked. Cheated Bernie Sanders in the election, that’s being ‘Crooked’, Also is now alleged to have paid a foreign entity for fake opposition research. That’s collusion. I have still used her real name. Just added a accurate description of her, that everyone else who cannot stand her who thinks she is a desperate liar, who cheated in the election but still lost thankfully.

Last time I looked, Hillary was her real name. I have never used ‘Hellary’ or ‘Killary’ (Reference to Benghazi scandal, in which four Americans died needlessly, at an Ambush in the American Embassy there). Or any other variation of her name. That’s the rule.

Hugh 05-04-2018 17:03
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
She has not been found guilty in a court of law of any civil or criminal offences.

It’s your opinion she is crooked, reflecting what you have read - I believe Trump spanked Stormy Weathers, reflecting what I read, so called him Spanky.

Here are some of his immature tweets.

Quote:
Truly weird Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky reminds me of a spoiled brat without a properly functioning brain.
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Why would Kim Jong-un insult me by calling me "old," when I would NEVER call him "short and fat?"
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Sorry, losers and haters, my IQ is one if the highest - and you all know it!
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Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his "no reason to be alarmed" statement.
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Crazy Joe Scarborough and dumb as a rock Mika are not bad people
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.@katyperry Katy, what the hell were you thinking when you married loser Russell Brand. There is a guy who has got nothing going, a waste!
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The cast and producers of Hamilton, which I hear is highly overrated, should immediately apologize to Mike Pence for their terrible behavior

Mick 05-04-2018 18:15
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35942728)
She has not been found guilty in a court of law of any civil or criminal offences.*

It’s your opinion she is crooked, reflecting what you have read - I believe Trump spanked Stormy Weathers, reflecting what I read, so called him Spanky.

Here are some of his immature tweets.
* Yet! ;)

You are using a sexual term as a name so it is inappropriate, I want you to stop using it, because there is no evidence any such event occurred.

As for using 'Crooked'... No, it's not my opinion that she is Crooked, it's millions of people's opinion, around the planet, who see sense, that she is and they are right because she cheated in the U.S Election in 2016. Got the questions to the debates, robbing Bernie Sanders of the nomination then there is indications that she and the crooked DNC funded the Fusion GPS Dossier, information said to have come from Russians, sick of saying it, that is the real collusion.

And let's have it right....She has not been found guilty because of shoddy investigations of her, from biased agents clearly working in her favour! Does Peter Strzok ring a bell, Deputy FBI Director Andy McCabe being rightly fired recently mean anything ?

Do remove those Hillary Rose tinted glasses Hugh for a minute, remember there is a Independent Investigation being carried out on the inconsideration's that took place during her FBI criminal investigations, by the Office of Inspector General, she clearly broke the law, classified emails belonging to her were found on Huma Abedins, perverted husbands laptop, he did not have security clearances to have them in his possession, not to mention they should not have been transferred to an insecure device, so why the hell were they there ?

Then there is this funding of the dossier, if there is documentation that clearly shows she funded a foreign entity to get research on her opponent, in order to damage him, I'd say that's another serious law broken. The same thing that Trump is being accused of but after such a lengthy investigation, to date, no evidence of collusion has been found.

Therefore, she is Crooked!

Sessions revealed last week that a U.S Attorney (John Huber) has been working with the OIG for around Six months, the Attorney has the power to impanel a Grand Jury and finally prosecute all the scandals that occurred under the Obama Administration's DoJ regarding the FISA abuses that took place to bring down Trump re "Insurance Policy".

Sorry, I forgot who Stormy is, must be a made up fantasy, cooked up by the biased Media, still reeling at a Crooked Hillary's loss. Still waiting on this DVD that is said to exist of it all..... It's bollocks, something like that would have been sold to the highest bidders already, those likely to be NYT or WaPo. Given they are very good at getting our Intel from a Terrorist Crime scene investigation, just several days after such an event has occurred.

Damien 05-04-2018 18:28
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
there really is no point to this thread but I do want to say that Hamilton is not overrated

ianch99 05-04-2018 19:01
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35942736)
there really is no point to this thread but I do want to say that Hamilton is not overrated
It was good but not that good! Dancing was great but I struggled to follow the plot via the Hip Hop singing ...

---------- Post added at 19:01 ---------- Previous post was at 18:59 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942733)
Sorry, I forgot who Stormy is
She's the one with the big pupils, remember?

Damien 05-04-2018 19:06
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Ah I thought Hamilton was amazing. Listen to the soundtrack again after seeing it, not too hard to follow imo

ianch99 05-04-2018 19:12
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35942742)
Ah I thought Hamilton was amazing. Listen to the soundtrack again after seeing it, not too hard to follow imo
Good advice :)

1andrew1 05-04-2018 19:15
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Speaking as a forum user, I appreciate all the hard work that goes on behind the scenes to keep the thousands of posts clean and relevant by people doing this work in a purely voluntary capacity.

It may be impossible, but it would be great to understand what adjectives can prefix politicians lest we cause unnecessary work for the mods. Are Crooked Hillary and Comrade Trump equally acceptable because people feel there is sufficient evidence to use the terms? Should neither be used? Or just one of them?

Back on Trump himself. China is now taking the US to the WTO, suggesting that the efforts to calm the markets by Washington were being contradicted by China's actions.
https://www.ft.com/content/fcf91440-...8-2f31af407cc8 (Or Google "China takes US to WTO over trade tariff plan" It's a long article.

Mick 05-04-2018 19:38
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I really do not think 'President Spanky' is at all acceptable, I really do not want to see language with sexual terms being used on this forum as peoples names, I have asked kindly on this and then next news, I am getting, 'Well Trump acts immature', I couldn't give a shit. What happens on Twitter, is Twitters problem.

I really don't know what people are getting precious on this request. I do not want sexual references being used as peoples names, it's pathetic and it will end.

Hugh 05-04-2018 20:31
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OK, I didn’t realise it was because it was a sexual reference - I won’t use that term again.

Apologies.

Mr Banana 05-04-2018 21:10
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942750)
I really do not think 'President Spanky' is at all acceptable, I really do not want to see language with sexual terms being used on this forum as peoples names, I have asked kindly on this and then next news, I am getting, 'Well Trump acts immature', I couldn't give a shit. What happens on Twitter, is Twitters problem.

I really don't know what people are getting precious on this request. I do not want sexual references being used as peoples names, it's pathetic and it will end.

So let me get this right a guy calls someone a name on a TV show but we are not allowed to repeat it on here. Rather hypocritical considering some people think the guy who said this - And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... grab them by the pussy - is gods gift to politics.

Pathetic

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...stormy-daniels

Mick 05-04-2018 21:45
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35942762)
So let me get this right a guy calls someone a name on a TV show but we are not allowed to repeat it on here. Rather hypocritical considering some people think the guy who said this - And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... grab them by the pussy - is gods gift to politics.

Pathetic

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...stormy-daniels
No it’s not pathetic.

We will not use sexual references as people’s names regardless what’s been said elsewhere. Either on Twitter or on TV.

It is not appropriate, to lower the tone of the discussion by using sexual terms for people’s names. That is not pathetic or hypocritical. It’s a rule about calling things properly, I was called out for calling Labour IRAbour, so I agreed not to use the term, but using sexual terms as names for people or groups is even worse. It’s not happening. I really don’t care how much you find it pathetic.

Mr Banana 05-04-2018 21:56
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942767)
No it’s not pathetic.

We will not use sexual references as people’s names regardless what’s been said elsewhere. Either on Twitter or on TV.

It is not appropriate, to lower the tone of the discussion by using sexual terms for people’s names. That is not pathetic or hypocritical. It’s a rule about calling things properly, I was called out for calling Labour IRAbour, so I agreed not to use the term, but using sexual terms as names for people or groups is even worse. It’s not happening. I really don’t care how much you find it pathetic.
What is sexual about President Spanky?

Mick 05-04-2018 22:02
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35942768)
What is sexual about President Spanky?
Seriously ?

Spank;

1. A disciplinary measure for children whereby the child is striken on the bottocks, either bared or clothed, with either the hand or an implement such as a wooden spoon.
2. A fetish where consenting adults strike each other on the butt to induce sexual pleasure.

Mr Banana 05-04-2018 22:07
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942770)
Seriously ?

Spank;

1. A disciplinary measure for children whereby the child is striken on the bottocks, either bared or clothed, with either the hand or an implement such as a wooden spoon.
2. A fetish where consenting adults strike each other on the butt to induce sexual pleasure.
Oh ok - I must have led a sheltered life - have not been or subjected anyone to that?

RizzyKing 05-04-2018 22:15
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Less sheltered and more off grid lol it's not an activity i take part in but I've been aware of it for a few decades now as being popular with certain people.

Mick 05-04-2018 22:22
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Banana (Post 35942772)
have not been or subjected anyone to that?
I’m curious, you asking or telling me? :erm:

Mr Banana 05-04-2018 22:32
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35942777)
I’m curious, you asking or telling me? :erm:
Lol - missed out the important I

RizzyKing 05-04-2018 22:36
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Back to the subject a bit more i think the reason Trump's twitter shenanigans create the problem they do is because people expected him to grow into the role of the president and behave a little more statesman like rather then him carrying on as he always has. That and his accuracy with the claims and accusations he makes being considerably wide of the mark quite a lot.

1andrew1 05-04-2018 23:56
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Trump makes his first public comment on Stormy Daniels payment.
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Donald Trump said he was not aware of a $130,000 payment from his lawyer to Stormy Daniels shortly before the 2016 election in his first public comments about the issue.
The president denied knowledge of the payment on Air Force One on Thursday, according to the White House press pool report...
Michael Avenatti, the lawyer representing Ms Clifford, responded on Twitter: “We very much look forward to testing the truthfulness of Mr Trump’s feigned lack of knowledge concerning the $130k payment”.
https://www.ft.com/content/e2a3b45a-...8-2f31af407cc8

Mick 06-04-2018 00:22
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Is that the same lawyer who said he had a DVD disc of the so called affair?

Where is it?

Like I said, it would have been released by now.

Mr K 06-04-2018 08:29
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I wonder how this is going down with his evangelical base (although they are quite in to the corporal punishment stuff !).

My sister is a US citizen, having lived there for so long. It's a strongly pro Republican area. They were all very pro Trump pre election, but now they refuse to discuss politics and change the subject as soon as his name is mentioned... They might not vote Democrat, but they might not vote at all. We shall see in the mid-terms.

ianch99 06-04-2018 09:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35942745)
Speaking as a forum user, I appreciate all the hard work that goes on behind the scenes to keep the thousands of posts clean and relevant by people doing this work in a purely voluntary capacity.
Totally agree :tu:

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35942745)
Are Crooked Hillary and Comrade Trump equally acceptable?
No, neither are. Calling people you do not like by childish names adds nothing to the debate and is just designed to wind people up.

Hugh 06-04-2018 10:09
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35942801)
Trump makes his first public comment on Stormy Daniels payment.

Quote:
Donald Trump said he was not aware of a $130,000 payment from his lawyer to Stormy Daniels shortly before the 2016 election in his first public comments about the issue.
The president denied knowledge of the payment on Air Force One on Thursday, according to the White House press pool report...
Michael Avenatti, the lawyer representing Ms Clifford, responded on Twitter: “We very much look forward to testing the truthfulness of Mr Trump’s feigned lack of knowledge concerning the $130k payment”.

https://www.ft.com/content/e2a3b45a-...8-2f31af407cc8
This statement puts his lawyer in a lot of trouble, and invalidates the non-disclosure agreement.

a) A lawyer who makes payments on behalf of a client, without the client's permission, is breaking the law
b) the non-disclosure agreement - Clifford’s case is based on the notion that the confidentiality agreement is invalid because Trump was not a party to it. By saying he was not aware of the payment or the agreement, Trump appeared to confirm that argument, which would mean neither party is legally bound by it, thus potentially paving the way for Clifford to break her silence without consequences.

Hugh 09-04-2018 21:18
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/u...?smid=pl-share
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F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen

The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump’s longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress.

Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen’s lawyer, who called the search “completely inappropriate and unnecessary.” The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller’s investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York...

...The payments to Ms. Clifford are only one of many topics being investigated, according to a person briefed on the search. The F.B.I. also seized emails, tax documents and business records, the person said.

Damien 09-04-2018 22:18
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Tax records eh?

Looks like you were right about the lawyer landing himself in it anyway.

Mick 09-04-2018 22:19
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
The witch hunt continues.... shut it down FFS.

Nothing to do with Russian Collusion. Mueller overstepped his boundaries he may have also breached client privileges laws (with other clients of Cohen] by raiding the office and seizing documents.

Damien 09-04-2018 22:23
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943148)
The witch hunt continues.... shut it down FFS.

Nothing to do with Russian Collusion. Mueller overstepped his boundaries he may have also breached client privileges laws (with other clients of Cohen] by raiding the office and seizing documents.
This isn't part of the Mueller investigation. It looks like he just passed something onto the prosecutors in Manhattan precisely because this isn't his remit.

Also those prosecutors obtained a warrant, they didn't just raid it without authorisation.

pip08456 09-04-2018 22:28
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Sorry Mick but he has not raided the office or seized documents.

If however the raid has been carried out as a result of a referral from Muller then it can be argued that Muller has overstepped the bounds of his investigative remit.

1andrew1 09-04-2018 22:29
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35943150)
This isn't part of the Mueller investigation. It looks like he just passed something onto the prosecutors in Manhattan precisely because this isn't his remit.

Also those prosecutors obtained a warrant, they didn't just raid it without authorisation.
Yes, I think it's a bit bizarre to ask Mueller to look the other way if he comes across something potentially unlawful during his investigations into the alleged Russian allegations.

pip08456 09-04-2018 23:36
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
No more bizzare than finding nothing that he was appointed to investigate.

1andrew1 09-04-2018 23:46
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35943168)
No more bizzare than finding nothing that he was appointed to investigate.
Investigating something and finding no evidence of it is not bizarre. However, ignoring other potential unlawful activities of that person is. Are you suggesting that the person being investigated gets a carte blanche to commit other crimes if they're unrelated to the one being investigated?

pip08456 10-04-2018 00:16
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35943171)
Investigating something and finding no evidence of it is not bizarre. However, ignoring other potential unlawful activities of that person is. Are you suggesting that the person being investigated gets a carte blanche to commit other crimes if they're unrelated to the one being investigated?
No, I'm suggesting the investigator doesn't have carte blanche. That would suggest a failure in law enforcement agencies.

Damien 10-04-2018 06:14
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35943154)
If however the raid has been carried out as a result of a referral from Muller then it can be argued that Muller has overstepped the bounds of his investigative remit.
There is nothing that says if you come across suspicion or evidence of a crime whilst investigating another, unrelated, crime that you cannot start a different investigation.

If the police obtain a warrant to raid your house during a fraud investigation but instead they find 1000 tons of crystal meth in your basement then they are allowed to refer that to a new investigation. It's not deemed inadmissible on the basis it was found during the course of a different investigation.

Obviously I am not a lawyer but it seems fantasy law people have invented on twitter that anything else Mueller finds outside of his remit in ineligible for investigation.

1andrew1 10-04-2018 07:44
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35943186)
There is nothing that says if you come across suspicion or evidence of a crime whilst investigating another, unrelated, crime that you cannot start a different investigation.

If the police obtain a warrant to raid your house during a fraud investigation but instead they find 1000 tons of crystal meth in your basement then they are allowed to refer that to a new investigation. It's not deemed inadmissible on the basis it was found during the course of a different investigation.

Obviously I am not a lawyer but it seems fantasy law people have invented on twitter that anything else Mueller finds outside of his remit in ineligible for investigation.
Nailed it.

Damien 10-04-2018 09:55
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
They must have something to persuade an attorney and judge to sign off on the searching of a lawyers office.

1andrew1 10-04-2018 10:07
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35943204)
They must have something to persuade an attorney and judge to sign off on the searching of a lawyers office.
Do bears like honey? ;)

Damien 10-04-2018 10:27
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Good breakdown here: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/...68444212482048

Hugh 10-04-2018 10:29
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
The process of getting a warrant to access client-privileged information (it's more difficult than getting a normal search warrant).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.786d322cfbb5
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1.Before obtaining a search warrant, investigators had to try to obtain the evidence in another way, such as by subpoena.
2. The authorization for the warrant had to come from either the U.S. attorney or an assistant attorney general. (Rosenstein is deputy attorney general, a higher position than assistant attorney general.)
3. The prosecutor had to confer with the criminal division of the department before seeking the warrant.
4. The team conducting the search had to “employ adequate precautions” to ensure that they weren’t improperly viewing privileged communications between Cohen and his clients.
5. The search team would have included a “privilege team,” including lawyers and agents not working the case, which would work to ensure that investigators conducting the search didn’t see privileged communications.
6. The investigators had to develop a review process for the seized material.

Even with those checks in place, the U.S. attorney wasn’t guaranteed a warrant. Search warrants granted to U.S. attorneys are approved by magistrate judges serving in U.S. District Court...

...The Cohen search warrant almost certainly included decision-making or approval on the part of the second-highest-ranking person at the Justice Department (Rosenstein), a federal judge and the U.S. attorney or an assistant attorney general. Before it was executed, the team would have needed to check a number of boxes meant to reduce the likelihood of improperly seizing privileged material and to make the case to a judge that evidence of criminal behavior would probably be found.

Mick 10-04-2018 11:51
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Judge who authorised it, probably Politically activist judge in New York, Clinton territory. This was a political move and just confirms that they (Mueller and co) have absolutely nothing on Trump with Russia collusion. Needs to be shut down now.

There is a lot of pissed of lawyers, not necessarily Trump supporting, but care greatly about the client privilege laws.

All the potential laws broken by Crooked Hillary, lying under Oath (Perjury) inproper handling of classified material, how many times has her lawyers office been raided.... ?

Oh yes that’s right, immunity deals handed out, no charges levied for tampering and destroying evidence and deleting 33,000 emails. The interview that was conducted with her, not recorded, key people allowed to sit in that interview. That’s why thankfully, the OIG in place that’s been investigating this shoddy criminal investigation of her for well over a year, his report is due imminently.

Damien 10-04-2018 11:55
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943211)
Judge who authorised it, probably Politically activist judge in New York, Clinton territory. This was a political move and just confirms that they (Mueller and co) have absolutely nothing on Trump with Russia collusion. Needs to be shut down now.
The US attorney who signed off is a registered Republican who was appointed by Trump:

https://twitter.com/tsgnews/status/983482270299369472

And Trump can attempt to shut it down but this investigation is being conducted elsewhere. Only so many people Trump can fire/attempt to shut down.

Mick 10-04-2018 12:06
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Still needed a Judge, he was in New York.

This is a shambles Investigation, politically triggered by the damn corrupt DNC and rogue ‘For Her’ agents in FBI, they got one of them and rightly fired him. A gofundme Page has been created, to cover legal expenses, probably to cover the legal ramifications coming down the road, Comey isn’t safe either.

Damien 10-04-2018 12:32
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Maybe best wait to see why they raided the office. As has been pointed out they would have needed something in order to do so.

1andrew1 10-04-2018 12:35
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35943215)
Maybe best wait to see why they raided the office. As has been pointed out they would have needed something in order to do so.
Agreed. I doubt a judge would sign off on these things willy-nilly.

Mick 10-04-2018 13:18
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Yes A judge would, if he was Anti-Trump. We’ve seen it before, Judges in Democrat heavy districts blocking his travel ban, when he has the Constitutional Authority to do so, is why the Supreme Court overruled that injunction and allowed parts of his Executive Order to stand, pending further hearing(s).

Damien 10-04-2018 13:27
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943217)
Yes A judge would, if he was Anti-Trump. We’ve seen it before, Judges in Democrat heavy districts blocking his travel ban, when he has the Constitutional Authority to do so, is why the Supreme Court overruled that injunction and allowed parts of his Executive Order to stand, pending further hearing(s).
Well we don't yet know who the Judge was but this still needed signing off by the Republican backing, Trump appointed, district attorney. Why did he sign off if it's a conspiracy against Trump?

Mick 10-04-2018 13:33
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
They'd sign anything with out verifying stuff, they signed the FISA warrants using a unverified source, the paid for Dossier paid by the DNC and Hillary.

Damien 10-04-2018 13:52
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943221)
They'd sign anything with out verifying stuff, they signed the FISA warrants using a unverified source, the paid for Dossier paid by the DNC and Hillary.
Well he actively sought the warrant so he went to a judge to ask for it without verifying what he wanted the warrant for?

I think it's more likely he felt he had a valid reason to request it and clearly a judge agreed. It's certainly more likely than the idea that a Trump appointed attorney asked for a warrant to investigate Trump's lawyer without verifying his own request and got away with this spectacular degree of incompetence because the judged was a crooked democrat.

Incidentally this also needed signing off by the FBI Director (appointed by Trump) and Rosenstein (also appointed by Trump).

Mick 10-04-2018 14:25
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Just because they are appointed by Trump does not mean they have to be politically aligned with him, and even if they were, they have to act on whatever they had, if they had anything legitimately, I don't think they had, this was a political move, to squeeze Trump's close lawyer, but IMO they have breached client privileges, they cannot use anything they have seized in the court room, so why else was it they took it for, to leak it to the press no doubt, any communications they find.

Most interesting is that the New York Times yet again, was aware of this raid taking place before it occurred, as it was them who broke the story. Obama holdovers leaking again to the Anti-Trump press.

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BREAKING: Just in: Trump cancels his South American Trip to focus on issues in Syria.

He is going to order a military strike isn't he? :erm:

Damien 10-04-2018 14:26
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943226)
Just because they are appointed by Trump does not mean they have to be politically aligned with him, and even if they were, they have to act on whatever they had, if they had anything legitimately, I don't think they had, this was a political move, to squeeze Trump's close lawyer, but IMO they have breached client privileges, they cannot use anything they have seized in the court room, so why else was it they took it for, to leak it to the press no doubt, any communications they find.
Why can't they use anything they seized? They obtained a legal warrant for this.

You also don't know if they had anything.

Mick 10-04-2018 14:41
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35943229)
Why can't they use anything they seized? They obtained a legal warrant for this.
Does not matter. That little detail known as 'client privilege', a privileged communication cannot be used as evidence in court.

Damien 10-04-2018 14:58
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943230)
Does not matter. That little detail known as 'client privilege', a privileged communication cannot be used as evidence in court.
I think there are exemptions if they believe the communications involved both the client and the lawyer intending to make a crime.

But fair enough. From the reporting it seems they might after stuff other than that which would be protected by attorney-client privilege. Mostly because this article: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ege/501564002/

Quote:
There will also be a "taint team" to examine everything before it is handed over to prosecutors to make sure that those conducting the case never see any material that might be "tainted" by attorney-client privilege.

The only way the prosecution would be permitted to examine any material that might otherwise fall under the attorney-client umbrella is if it is determined to be part of a crime jointly undertaken by the attorney and the client. But for the privilege to be nullified, Litman said the taint team would have to get the approval of the court to present the material to the prosecution.

In order to fall under attorney-client protection, the documents just have to be related to Cohen dispensing legal advice or gathering information in order to give that advice, Litman said. But merely having an attorney involved does not guarantee the protection.

Hugh 10-04-2018 16:02
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943217)
Yes A judge would, if he was Anti-Trump. We’ve seen it before, Judges in Democrat heavy districts blocking his travel ban, when he has the Constitutional Authority to do so, is why the Supreme Court overruled that injunction and allowed parts of his Executive Order to stand, pending further hearing(s).
New definition of biased against Trump - most of the people below would have been involved/notified of the warrant happening.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller is a Republican.

Attorney General Jeff Sessions is a Republican.

Deputy Attorney General Rob Rosenstein is a Republican.

The current Director of the FBI Christopher Wray is a Republican

The NY South Attorney General is a Republican, Geoffrey Berman, who Trump interviewed and nominated - not only is he a Republican, but he donated to the Trump campaign and Trump appointed him to his current office. It doesn't matter if a Judge signed it off the warrant, Berman is the guy who signed off on the FBI raid on Trump's lawyer, Michael Cohen, yesterday.

You would think if it was a witch hunt, some of the witch-hunters in this case would be Democrat...

Also, according to the American Bar Association, conversations between attorney and client when there is reason to suspect both are involved in an ongoing criminal activity are NOT actually protected by law and are subject to investigation. It's called the Crime-Fraud Exception, which says: The legal community does not deem discussions concerning future wrongdoings, such as fraud, that occur during an attorney-client communications worthy of protection. While the practice of law encourages full and frank communications between the attorney and client, ONLY communications concerning past wrongdoings are protected.

Mick 10-04-2018 16:40
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I'll stick to it being a witch hunt thanks.

I will say to you Hugh, what I said to Damien, you can be a Republican but not necessarily support the President, there are Republicans out there totally against the President, Senator John McCain being a prime example.

As for the witch hunt, we've gone from the 'Russian Collusion' narrative, long investigation, they found none, so instead of wrapping up, they are now on a fishing expedition, because Mueller still has a target. This sorry arse show needs to be shut down, it's now just a political shit show.

Damien 10-04-2018 17:26
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943250)
I'll stick to it being a witch hunt thanks.

I will say to you Hugh, what I said to Damien, you can be a Republican but not necessarily support the President, there are Republicans out there totally against the President, Senator John McCain being a prime example.
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But these were appointees of Trump. The Attorney who sought the warrant was even someone who donated to Trump's campaign.

It can't be that everyone who investigates or poses a challenge to Trump is dishonest or partisan. It's remarkable if it were true. If you extend a fraction of the sketism you have over the motives of those investigating Trump to that of Trump and his allies is it so hard to believe there might be some wrongdoing? You don't have an issue with believing the Democrats are corrupt, they aren't that different to Republicans.

Quote:
As for the witch hunt, we've gone from the 'Russian Collusion' narrative, long investigation, they found none, so instead of wrapping up, they are now on a fishing expedition, because Mueller still has a target. This sorry arse show needs to be shut down, it's now just a political shit show.
This is now a separate track to the Mueller investigation. So even if he fires Mueller this investigation would continue. Mueller did what he was meant to do and pass it on elsewhere.

Maybe Trump can fire the people in the NY Attorney's office too and then fire anyone who investigates his allies further but the US has checks and balances, you can't keep firing everyone who investigates the President.

Mick 10-04-2018 18:02
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
NEW DETAILS this from CNN: The FBI search warrant requested documents about Michael Cohen's ownership of taxi medallions in NY, sources tell CNN's @PamelaBrownCNN and @GloriaBorger. (The warrant also asked for info on Stormy Daniels and mentioned election laws.)

I cannot stop laughing..... this is hilarious, the raid was about taxi medallions LMFAO.....

Damien 10-04-2018 18:07
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
See, not everything is a conspiracy against Trump

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(Although we have to wait and see what other documents involving the women means I guess)

Hugh 11-04-2018 17:00
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Paul Ryan, Republican Speaker of the House (and 2nd in succession line for Presidency), has announced he will retire at the mid-term elections to spend more time with his children.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/u...n-speaker.html

Mick 11-04-2018 17:42
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Get Ted Cruz as speaker, he was fantastic against Mark Zuckerberg last night, criticizing him regarding Facebook censoring Conservative groups and opinions. Facebook branded, Black Trump supporters, Diamond and Silk as a "danger" to the community and banned them.

Hugh 11-04-2018 17:46
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
He's a Senator, the Speaker is in the House of Representatives - people tend to move from the House to the Senate.

Mick 11-04-2018 18:33
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I know, I was just saying he would make a great Speaker.

Hugh 11-04-2018 19:26
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943355)
I know, I was just saying he would make a great Speaker.
Well, considering Zuckerberg was called before the Committees to be questioned on the data controversy involving Cambridge Analytica, I wonder if the reason Cruz didn’t ask any question on this subject was because the "Cruz for President” campaign used Cambridge Analytica extensively, having spent $5.8 million between July 2015 and June 2016 with the company.

Mick 11-04-2018 19:35
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Obama used similar practices in his re-election campaign on the 2012-2013 Ticket, as well and was praised for his "tech genius" for doing so.

But now Trump/Cruz used to it in their election campaigns, it's suddenly a 'huge problem.' How convenient.

Damien 11-04-2018 20:04
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943364)
Obama used similar practices in his re-election campaign on the 2012-2013 Ticket, as well and was praised for his "tech genius" for doing so.

But now Trump/Cruz used to it in their election campaigns, it's suddenly a 'huge problem.' How convenient.
I posted on this a while ago. This is Facebook story is a nonsense. I really do not think journalists understand it properly.

First of all campaigning via social media utilising people's social connections and tailoring the message to different demographics is not new as you say. The coverage of this story keeps making it out to be some sort of advanced algorithm with CIA-style brainwashing ability. It's a bunch of stupid memes. :rolleyes: It's not new.

If it was so advanced how much Cruz lost?

The one thing I would say is that the 'scandal' isn't the same as Obama's techniques. The key difference being Obama's campaign was clear what is was going, you had to opt-in and they didn't scrape data without permission.

Also Facebook did not sell this data. It was obtained via a third-party application who then gave it to CA. This is where there are questions to an answered. But in the end this is old data that people. had uploaded to Facebook, hardly searing insight.

1andrew1 11-04-2018 20:35
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35943252)
But these were appointees of Trump. The Attorney who sought the warrant was even someone who donated to Trump's campaign.

It can't be that everyone who investigates or poses a challenge to Trump is dishonest or partisan. It's remarkable if it were true. If you extend a fraction of the sketism you have over the motives of those investigating Trump to that of Trump and his allies is it so hard to believe there might be some wrongdoing? You don't have an issue with believing the Democrats are corrupt, they aren't that different to Republicans.

This is now a separate track to the Mueller investigation. So even if he fires Mueller this investigation would continue. Mueller did what he was meant to do and pass it on elsewhere.

Maybe Trump can fire the people in the NY Attorney's office too and then fire anyone who investigates his allies further but the US has checks and balances, you can't keep firing everyone who investigates the President.
It seems that it is Rosenstein and not Mueller who is on Trump's list to be fired.
Mr Rozenshtein, a visiting assistant professor at the University of Minnesota Law School points out that "There is a certain logic for Trump to fire Rosenstein but not fire Mueller on the theory that acting gradually to hamstring the investigation is going to be politically much less problematic than acting really abruptly" said Mr Rozenshtein, a visiting assistant professor at the University of Minnesota Law School. Mr Trump could then attempt to install “a less independent, more pliant” deputy attorney-general in his place, he added.
https://www.ft.com/content/7c003426-...9-de94fa33a81e

Mick 11-04-2018 20:42
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Well, at the moment Devin Nunes is moving to apply a "Contempt of Congress" levy and a move to Impeach Rosenstein and Wray for ignoring congressional requests for FISA documentations surrounding Carter Page and the spying on him and Trump associates and potentially Trump himself. They requested the documentation over 6 months ago and the deadline passed last week.

Damien 11-04-2018 20:51
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943378)
Well, at the moment Devin Nunes is moving to apply a "Contempt of Congress" levy and a move to Impeach Rosenstein and Wray for ignoring congressional requests for FISA documentations surrounding Carter Page and the spying on him and Trump associates and potentially Trump himself. They requested the documentation over 6 months ago and the deadline passed last week.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...enstein-514518

It seems it would need the support of the leadership before a vote could take place.

Mick 11-04-2018 21:10
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Of course, he can't just act on his own, needs to move to a vote in the House... To me I think it's a stretch too far and pointless, the numbers won't be there, specifically in the Senate.

Hugh 12-04-2018 22:57
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943351)
Get Ted Cruz as speaker, he was fantastic against Mark Zuckerberg last night, criticizing him regarding Facebook censoring Conservative groups and opinions. Facebook branded, Black Trump supporters, Diamond and Silk as a "danger" to the community and banned them.
Do you mean this Facebook page, which has never been banned?

https://www.facebook.com/DiamondandSilk/

https://thinkprogress.org/diamond-an...mpression=true

Quote:
Data from Crowdtangle, a social media analytics platform owned by Facebook, show that total interactions on Diamond and Silk’s Facebook page were steady. The “total interactions” metric covers the total number of reactions, comments, and shares of content posted to the page. Diamond and Silk’s Facebook page actually received more total interactions in March 2018 (1,088,000), when they were supposedly being censored, than in March 2017 (1,060,000). Diamond and Silk received more interactions in January 2018 (1,328,000), when they began complaining about censorship, than in any month the previous year.

Mick 13-04-2018 00:11
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Rubbish. Yes it was blocked.

Zuckerberg confirmed the enforcement error himself!

Quote:
“In that specific case, our team made an enforcement error, and we have already gotten in touch with them to reverse it,” Mr. Zuckerberg said at a House committee hearing.
If it wasn’t banned as you wrongly state, why would Facebook’s CEO acknowledge the ban as an enforcement error? :rolleyes:

Wow, there’s even a YouTube clip of him acknowledging the blockage.



I question your motives taking 24 hours or more trying to rubbish what I posted. I’ll accept your apology.

Hugh 13-04-2018 07:54
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
From my earlier link
Quote:
A spokesperson for Facebook told ThinkProgress that the company regrets the way it communicated with Diamond and Silk, particularly the email in which they were told their content was “unsafe.” The Facebook spokesperson added that changes to Facebook’s monetization policies, implemented in September 2017, were not properly communicated to Diamond and Silk and may have added to the confusion.

Facebook’s spokesperson, however, categorically denied that any page, including Diamond and Silk, was targeted or penalized due to their political beliefs. Rather, any changes to their page performance over the last few months were not targeted at them, but the result of broader shifts across Facebook.

Indeed, many pages, including liberal pages, have suffered large declines because Facebook has reduced the distribution of videos and other content published by pages in favor of content from “friends and family.”

Diamond and Silk, however, have seen their total interactions increase slightly because the reach of their video content has more than replaced status updates that include links.
They were sent a note saying their “content and brand” were “unsafe to the community" this was later reversed - their page wasn’t banned.

They could still post to their page, they, and others, were not blocked from accessing it - how were they banned?

Even the pair haven't said they were banned - they said on Fox News
Quote:
they noticed reduced engagement on their page for months and received a note from the social media company about their content last week.

Mick 13-04-2018 10:46
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I couldn’t give a shit about your earlier link, it is wrong, as are you.

I will say it again. It was blocked. The vids of Mark Zuckerberg acknowledging the enforcement action on the FB Page, being in error, are there!!! :rolleyes:

Mick 13-04-2018 18:42
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
BREAKING: Hearing rumours President Trump is planning to fire Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein. Soon. Timeline is delayed because of Syria.

NBC News is reporting that Rosentien is preparing to be fired citing him saying: "History will prove he did right thing by firing Comey, claiming the American people do not have all facts about what led to his decision to write memo that led to Comey's dismissal"

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Trump just issued his 3rd full and unconditional Pardon to Scooter Libby, an American Lawyer and former advisor to Vice President Dick Cheney.

In 2007, he was indicted on five counts by a federal grand jury concerning the investigation of the leak of the covert identity of Central Intelligence Agency officer Valerie Plame Wilson. He was sentenced to 30 Months in jail and fined $250,000. However after his failed appeal, then President George Bush, commuted his sentence, but kept other parts of his sentence intact, he refused to issue a full pardon on recommendations from members of Congress.

However in 2015, a key witness recanted her testimony saying the prosecutor withheld information from her during her interviews that would have drastically altered significantly what she said.

1andrew1 13-04-2018 18:59
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943515)
I couldn’t give a shit about your earlier link, it is wrong, as are you.

I will say it again. It was blocked. The vids of Mark Zuckerberg acknowledging the enforcement action on the FB Page, being in error, are there!!! :rolleyes:
I guess we shoudn't rule out the possibility that Zuckerberg got it wrong. I would go for the latest piece of information being the most accurate

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943566)
BREAKING: Hearing rumours President Trump is planning to fire Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein. Soon. Timeline is delayed because of Syria.
Yes, I mentioned that earlier on in the week. Trump's aim is suggested as being to replace him with someone more compliant who will slow down the investigation. It was a political no-no to replace Robert Mueller but not Rod Rosenstein.

Mick 13-04-2018 19:17
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35943571)
I guess we shoudn't rule out the possibility that Zuckerberg got it wrong. I would go for the latest piece of information being the most accurate.
LOL - Zuckerburg owns Facebook, i'm pretty sure he did not get it wrong.

They were blocked or were being blocked, they are not now - it is not hard you know, jeez.

Hugh 13-04-2018 21:40
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943515)
I couldn’t give a shit about your earlier link, it is wrong, as are you.

I will say it again. It was blocked. The vids of Mark Zuckerberg acknowledging the enforcement action on the FB Page, being in error, are there!!! :rolleyes:
Nice...

Why be abusive? - people can have different views without swearing at each other.

You can say what you want, just repeating factual inaccuracies doesn’t make them right - their reach was diminished, the same as a lot of others, because Facebook increased the viewing priorities of Families and Friends over other things, in response to user feedback.

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Donald appears to be having a meltdown...

Quote:
Donald J. Trump
@realdonald trump

DOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!

13/04/2018 20:36

Damien 13-04-2018 21:50
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
I think Trump would see a good boost to his approval numbers if someone took Twitter away from him. He's lucky to be still on there, if I declared my intention to fire missiles at someone I would be banned from Twitter.

Mick 13-04-2018 22:37
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35943582)
Nice...

Why be abusive? - people can have different views without swearing at each other.

You can say what you want, just repeating factual inaccuracies doesn’t make them right - their reach was diminished, the same as a lot of others, because Facebook increased the viewing priorities of Families and Friends over other things, in response to user feedback.
I’m not being abusive, I’m saying in no uncertain terms that what your saying is not accurate, as is the article. I’ve demonstrated this by showing you a quote and a clip of that quote being said from the persons own mouth.

They was blocked, Facebook have acknowledged the enforcement error and have corrected it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh
Donald appears to be having a meltdown...
No he’s giving an honest opinion on a partial release of OIG report on Andy McCabe’s firing and boy is that Crooked fool in legal jeopardy, as is potentially Comey.

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BREAKING: Articles of Impeachment have drafted against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstien.

Damien 13-04-2018 23:03
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35943590)
No he’s giving an honest opinion on a partial release of OIG report on Andy McCabe’s firing and boy is that Crooked fool in legal jeopardy, as is potentially Comey.
From what I have seen reported it's bad for McCabe but not legally bad? I am not a lawyer tho.

Quote:
BREAKING: Articles of Impeachment have drafted against Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstien.
More likely to get fired by Trump than Impeached imo. Congress is unlikely to want to touch it.

Mick 13-04-2018 23:52
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
It’s all happening tonight. A New York Federal Judge has granted President Trump that he can intervene in documents seized in the FBI raid on his lawyer Michael Cohen.

1andrew1 14-04-2018 00:17
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Potential trouble for Trump, who apparently views the enquiry into Cohen as more of a threat than the Russian collusion enquiry.
Quote:
Mr. Trump called Mr. Cohen on Friday to “check in,” according to two people briefed on the call. Depending on what else was discussed, the call could be problematic, as lawyers typically advise their clients against discussing investigations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/13/u...T.nav=top-news

Mick 14-04-2018 01:06
Re: President Trump & U.S Election 2016 Investigation
 
Nope it’s not trouble. Cohen is his lawyer. Cohen hasn’t been indicted. He is free to talk to him.

Trump could Pardin him tomorrow if he wanted. Given a Federal Judge has granted Trump to intervene. Re. Client Privilege. He can talk to him about the lawsuit they won today.


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