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Well they are nearer to you than the scousers and did supply half of your 'team'. :p:

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And a point above your wealthy billionaires last time l looked.:p:

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What, Saints?

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Ayoze Perez scores in 23 seconds as Brighton concede, Newcastle 3 points clear at the summit as it stands. It's 1-1 at Newcastle. Wouldn't be Newcastle without two horror mistakes.

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l think you know the answer to that but have answered it like a typical politician.;)

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Well your mob get two weeks holiday now, out of everything and only a point in front of a team still in four comps. :p:

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Well if one spends £50 million and the other spends about a billion then l would hazard a guess who has got the best value out of their transfer dealings.;)

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Barcelona got steamrolled by PSG last night. If PSG played like that over the course, they'd win it outright. Barca were lucky it didn't finish 8-0. Messi got absolutely skinned from the offset. Never a good sign.

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Yes, the ones who didn't get knocked out of the cup by a lower championship side.

Need to check your figures as well, those sound like they came from the Sun.:rolleyes:

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Alas we don't read factitious and spurious rubbish like The Sun in our household.;)

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Well here is a list that makes your £50 million versus a billion look a bit stupid. :)

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/prem...t-five-seasons

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All in good jest ;) but at least l am making you work hard for once Jim.;):D

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comme l'eau sur le dos d'un canard. :p:

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Queens English please as this uneducated man cannot understand much of the foreign lingo.:)

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Well Arsenal haven't collapsed to the Germans so that's new.

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Well there is quite a while to go yet so there is plenty of time for it yet to go belly up.

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Ridiculous penalty decision.

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Yeah I wondered whether that was actually a penalty or not :erm:

They must be saving the cave in for the Emirates.

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As always but as we know football supporters just have to accept the swings and roundabouts of these inconsistent decisions as nothing will change.

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Scratch that, the yearly cave in commences.

What do you reckon? 5-1? Arsenal need to shut it down asap, Bayern are awake.

Damn, Arsenal are hanging on by a thread. Ruthless from Bayern. Lewandowski should have 7. The amount of chances they're getting though.

Edit: 4-1, second half destruction and it'll only get worse, Same old Bayern, same old Arsenal. It's alright saying they need a goal.. Bayern are trouble every time they come forward.

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It's gotten so much worse since Kos came off too and the bigger concern is how long is he out for.

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Needing 3-0 at home to a team like Bayern isn't an impossible scoreline, it's just unlikely. Bayern just need a single goal at the Emirates and it's done and that's the more likely :erm:

Lewandowski is a right dodgy one isn't he? He's always looking to go down and play dead as well as taking the chance to give someone a good kicking when the opportunity arises, sly bugger.

If not for Ospina, this is 8-1.

Yes, yes I do. Quoting myself.

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And the trouble is as always Arsenal lack a adequate competent replacement when their main players get injured.

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Clutterbuck off to Saudi Arabia, didn't see that coming.:shocked:

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Well he will certainly have a nice big regular fat wallet Jim as money is no object in these oil rich countries.

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Can we talk about Wenger and the future of Arsenal with it's loyal fans after last night?

Obviously alerting Damien to come in.

I feel like after last night, there's never been more uncertainty around Arsene Wenger and this comes about having watched this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps97etOjV_k extremely NSFW language.

I wouldn't question it normally but these are obviously not the armchair type fans.

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I think those fans are extremely out of order. That's is not a balanced reaction to last night, it's not a balanced reaction to football in general, and people need to get a sense of perspective. Even if we weren't talking about one of the best, if not the best, managers in Arsenal's history that video is wrong. I don't like the reactionary traits of Arsenal Fan TV. It's an internet comments section made live. I also hate the ways fans are lifted onto some sort of untouchable guardians of football no matter how nutty their rants are.

At the same time I do think Wenger should leave at the end of the season. Announce it ahead of time as well so that the vast majority of the fans can get behind him and the team for the rest of the reason. People like that guy in the video will still abuse him but most fans will not.

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Well that game won't live long in the memory, still a 3-0 win when playing as badly as that, the gods are smiling on us for once. Stuffy free kick, good work from Rashford for second and a very dubious penalty. Possibly the first one awarded at OT this season and there have been three or four much clearer ones than that not given .

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It comes off as your average fan lunacy after a defeat but man he was having a right one there. Next week they'll win and he'll be Mr Happy.

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Well this is what the FA Cup is all about.:D

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Upset for a mate of mine who is a big Burnley fan but so glad that waste of space Barton has been knocked out. Just a pity Rhead didn't really stick one on him. :(

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Leicester City are rotten, there's taking advantage of the top clubs doing abysmal last year then there's this. :erm:
Losing to a league one side with ten men.

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Yes Barton is certainly not none of my favourite footballers either.:td:

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Well two Italian managers must be getting close to receiving their P45 that is for sure.:redcard::redcard:

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Premier League title or not, it will be remarkable for Claudio to still be at Leicester after Monday.

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Watching a clip of Sunday Supplement and the commentary is so poor. It's really 'down the pub' stuff, very little original insight. They're listing possible managers for Arsenal and talking about a manager's team have a good 'passing style' as if that means anything at all.

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Too many media clones hacks who always paint the worst of everything rather then any positive.

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Spurs are certain to break an Arsenal record today, they have now gone 3,283 days without winning a trophy beating the Gunners record from 2005 to 2014.:D

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Well it won't be long before both our teams join them.;)

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How so, United won the FA Cup last season, the Charity/Community shield so far this season, in one final on Sunday with another two still to play for. Just because Liverpool are once again out of everything doesn't mean others are. ;)

I make that another nine years before United equal that dismal record. :p:

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Now calm down as it was simply meant in jest dear.;)

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I just get a bit worried when you associate THE REDS with the reds :D

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l am waiting for your beloved to catch up in regards to England's most successful team in Europe which l am sure you know who that is.;):D

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Quite nervous about this. Although BBC One already annoying me with inane commentary. "People for whom Costa is a coffee and Kane is a stick". Sutton fans do know about upper league football as well, they're not some simple folk from a bygone age.

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We've got to stop giving away cheap free kicks.

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Great the idiot commentators now laugh at an obviously dangerous tackle.

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Surely Walcott was interfering with play?

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Wasn't offside.

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Hah! We're playing Sanchez!

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Meh. Poor performance from Arsenal, great performance from Sutton. Arsenal still had enough about them though. You go down far enough and you realise how much we take things like crossing and first touches for granted at the top levels. Arsenal were poor but basic technique essentially did it for them.

Someone threw a water bottle at Wenger for some reason and a pitch invasion. Problem with playing at those grounds I guess.

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Well as you know you have to make great history to start with to go on the wider mainstream TV channels.;):p:

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Falcao, couldn't hit a barn door at United. :(

Now that one was world class from Falcao, stunning.

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Well you must have been pleased with the end result last night though.;):D

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Always support English sides in Europe, ref was pretty useless, it was never a 10 card match.

City might just have done enough as long as they can score over there which given the defending from both sides should be possible.

A great game to watch for the neutrals. :)

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l am glad that like most you can separate the support for your beloved and the local tribalism which comes with that and supporting our teams in Europe.:tu:

Yes l thought the ref was pretty poor IMO :td: as was the keystone cops defending from both sides.:td:

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Mission accomplished for United tonight, my one big worry with these three games before the EFL cup final on Sunday was an injury to a crucial player, sadly it looks like we may be without Henry Mick and Michael Carrick. :(

Have a good day out Julian, I know I will enjoy myself whatever the result.

Jim.

GGMU:devsmoke:

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Outrageous....:(:(:td::td:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39070927

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Not a massive surprise though

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No l am not surprised in the least but what a shabby way to treat a manager who brought them something they could only dream about in their history.

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People are talking nonsense. Do they have to become Villa or Forest before it's acceptable to sack a manager of a team that's won 5 league games all season and are literally destined to be relegated in their current form. They have a single win in their last 11 games, have lost 6 in a row, have failed to score in 11 games this season. Something is rotten and something needed to change. Claudio failed to develop the team, came back into a season against improved sides whilst he changed relatively nothing, now he's paid that price.

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Sadly, this happens in football. Hopefully after tonight gme with Gent. Spurs sack Poch. Spurs could be 5-0 up and Ali, nearly breaks a players leg - red fully deserved.

And l am a Spurs fan. Now Spurs have to score 2 goals. If Gent score its all over - our season soon to be over. Same old Spurs

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Yup. He would have been fired already if not for the league win. It's very sad, it's horrible and given the fairytale of last season it's hard for many to understand but they've been awful.

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Nufc, Totally agree. City won the title. And as far as l know they are the bookies favourites to be relegated this season.

Claudio should have cleared out the squad and started again.

The funny thing is, City won the league last season, and sack the manager this season due to poor results.

But think of this. Arsenal fans have been crying out for Wengers head for not spending money, and they have been poor this season. He still has a job

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Huge difference. Arsenal aren't putting up a title fight, that's akin to your typical top four/six dismissal, i.e Brendan Rodgers, LVG, Moyes, Mancini and so forth.

If either of those teams were sat in 17th they'd dismiss the manager including Arsenal. Wenger is there because they're the last club with the Fergie mentality of sticking by their man. Sometimes the grass isn't greener either.

Jose Mourinho wins title, is sacked with Chelsea near the bottom months later. I thought it was a bit early for him to be shot off but there's an example.

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Football today is all about MONEY. if a club chairman/directors know that relegation is on the arisen then its there money in the club that will be effected.

So bang goes the main man.

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Wenger consistently meets the realistic, but unambitious, expectations of the Arsenal board. Champions League every year is decent enough even if us fans are disappointed. Ranieri wasn't being judged relative to winning the league but the reasonable expectation that they should not be drawn into a relegation fight - a expectation that wasn't being met.

I think had Leicester stuck by him then few would have objected but equally this isn't totally unreasonable either.

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Also Arsenal can literally afford to back Wenger, can Leicester to back Ranieri if relegation is on the cards?

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Damien.
I may be a Spurs fan, but Arsenal used to be a powerful force. But with fans being mad at the lack of spending (WENGER thinks its own money).

He hasn't brought in any decent players for several years. And Walcott or Giroud are not playing regular. And for Ian Wright the legend in view, to critise Wenger. There must be something behind it.

I used to love going to derby games of Spurs v Arsenal, but its not the same anymore. Both are the same - burn out each season.

Its like tonight game with Gent. Spurs paid 17 million pound for Janssen. In the last three games he has played - approx. 15 minutes.

And Spurs fans are whining he hasn't scored from normal play. Players are NOT robots. For Janssen to have any effect. He should have gone on with twenty minutes. Kane, yes he is a striker. But he should have come off.

I always compare our strikers - Son is like Walcott - as poacher. Giroux like Kane- you feed the striker, then he will strike

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Pah they've been relegated loads of times...

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I'm a bit surprised really.

I really don't get the shock from so many Leicester fans. Take last year out of the equasion and they are exactly in the position you'd expect. You can't deny how well they played last season and yes he's experimented (IMO) unecessarily this season but.....and their fans need to understand this no matter how bitter a pill it would be to swallow... Leicester City FC is NOT a big club.

Don't get me wrong, they have a big club mentality and again no matter how you view it not only did they win the league last season but did so with authority. But similar to the slightly-bigger Spurs, they won't ever be consider part of a Premier League "Big 4" collection of teams.

After living there for years I do have a bit of a soft spot for Leicester and certainly did not want to see them finish less than mid table and definitely not in/around the relegation zone. But like the title-winning sides of Leeds and Blackburn of the early-to-mid 90s, it's essential they know their place.

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Leicester City in the relegation zone as it stands. Could go into tomorrow in 19th place if Hull win.

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They are going down sadly.

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Well come on you saints.:cleader::cleader::cleader:

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Hat-trick in the 1st half for Kane puts him at the top of the premier leagues goal scoreres

https://www.premierleague.com/stats/...rs/goals?se=54

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On the train into Waterloo ATM. Just hope it doesn't go to extra time and penalties.

GGMU. :cool:

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You might have bumped into my brother as he is travelling back from Carlisle today and has to go through Waterloo.;)

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Mourinho does it again.

Hope everyone enjoyed club football at Wembley... one day lads. I take it you went from Waterloo tube straight to Wembley Park and just walked down? I tend to stay in that Premier Inn on the right when you're coming down the steps from the station. Naturally it's either a week away or boxing seen as though football is off the cards there for me :erm:

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Third visit in less than three years. Always stay at my brothers in Woking for a few days.

United played very poorly for long periods and Saints deserved extra time at least. Just boarded the train back to Woking, returning home on Tuesday.

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You must be a happy chappie tonight Jim as you are in Europe now.;)

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Would still prefer a better performance but it did look like five games in two weeks finally caught up with United. I wouldn't have fancied them in extra time. Couldn't see anything wrong with the disallowed goal from my seat either.

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No it looked a fair goal most definitely.

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At least Liverpool are defending like arse. :dunce: Soon to be leapfrogged by United too. Klopp's really giving it to Brendan :erm:

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Was there any reaction from the stands at the beginning of the game in reference to Ranieri?

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Not as much or even really as expected. The armchair fans are out though, especially on BBC's re-tweets.

Yet, any other manager sacking at the bottom of the table that then follows with a new guy winning is absolutely applauded as genius... See Sunderland every season. :erm:

The way people are still on this is ridiculous.

As for the game, it's not the way it's being made out either, Leicester aren't suddenly champion level quality again, Liverpool are playing absolutely rotten. The passing is shocking, players slipping all over and Klopp's just stood there not saying a word or doing a thing. They won't be pulling two back like this.

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One word from last night and that is pathetic........:(:(

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Klopp out

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Well l will wait for yours to go first.;)

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Julian is keeping very quiet?

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Perhaps he has gone abroad to some luxury destination to drown his sorrows..;)

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Posting elsewhere on the forums yesterday. ;)

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Well at least we know that he is alive and that has to be good news. :)

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Hmmm, according to this extract from an article in todays Telegraph, Leicester have performed better than lots of sides in the past 20 years, Spurs and the Hammers included. ;)


The notion that Leicester are a nonentity who should simply be grateful is somewhat undermined by their place in the trophy roll call of recent years. If one goes back to 1997, taking into account the three domestic trophies won in that year, and every year since then, the picture is quite striking.
From the 1996-97 season Manchester United have won the most with a combined total of 17 Premier League titles, FA Cups and League Cups. Next come Chelsea (14); Arsenal (9); Manchester City and Liverpool (5) and, in sixth place, are Leicester with three.

Leicester have more trophies than Spurs since 1997.
Historically they are ahead of clubs such as Tottenham, on two trophies since 1996-97, and Swansea City, Middlesbrough, Blackburn, Birmingham City, Portsmouth and Wigan Athletic, all on one.*
It should be said, as politely as possible, that the likes of Everton, West Ham, Southampton, Stoke City, Sunderland, Newcastle United, Aston Villa, West Bromwich Albion – we could go on here – have won none at all in those 21 years. :angel:

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Hey, Spurs are fair game now. But us? Sunderland? WBA :rolleyes:

Fair enough in the 90's we came close and probably should have won the title on occasions as well as the FA Cup and repeated Semi finals and QF's in the Uefa Cup but using us now is no comparison for making them look better. We're a fallen club that's taken near enough 12 years just to get itself out of a hole. Sure we can lay claim to having a hefty stadium, a loyal fanbase and decent profits with cash reserves but by Christ we've been a broken club for years.

In better terms, Newcastle were once what Spurs are now...:erm: We're not expected to win trophies, the big club mantra that people talk about is non existent, it was just entitled people thinking Newcastle were owed a trophy, deserving of one maybe, but entitled to one? nah We've had the champions league nights, the close finishes and so forth, absolutely no different from Spurs rather than silly comparisons to United, Liverpool and so forth. Chelsea quickly rose and took the gap we left, after that we never came close to taking it back. It's fair so say they solidified it too.

Sunderland are in an absolute mess, the owner has no desire to fix it and they've all been thrown under the bus. Sunderland are not exactly shy of the experience in going down but they're in real trouble at the minute, similar to the Aston Villa meltdown.

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But then the hammers are only one of seven teams iirc who have never been relegated out of the top 2 divisions (might not be 7 but it's low and Leicester aren't one of them), besides which my post was actually a joke about how dreadful it was to treat a manager that way when he'd brought them something they could only dream of etc

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But which would you sooner have on your CV, never in the third tier in 21 years or two League cups and one Premiership title. ;)

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Never relegated to third tier ever let alone 21 years. It's not what you want on your cv it's what you want to watch, I've enjoyed previous relegations as at least you watch the team win most weeks but that last season under fat boy was to much and no fun at all, I wouldn't swop it for anything let alone a poxy league cup.

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Nail and head, loving it so far :D

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Well Man Utd like Liverpool won't be qualifying for the Champions league judging by this performance this dinnertime.

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Yet again we let their keeper win MOM. Pretty poor performance all round, ref included.

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Tyrone Mings stamp was disgusting. Glad he at the least got an elbow for his troubles. He looks back when running over Ibra too, he knows he's there and in my opinion it's borderline deliberate. Credit to Ibra for not acting like a fanny though and delivering the people's elbow as fair justice.

Both will likely get bans on Monday for clear sending off offences missed by the ref. Ref had no control over the game to be fair.

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Well at least our team has turned up this evening.:D:D

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Delivering the people's elbow??

Any credibility you had as a true football fan just disappeared.

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You best tell Alan Shearer that then, the master at sticking the elbow in when he got crunched from behind. That's exactly what Zlatan did, good old fashioned retribution from a classic strong forward. I much preferred the more physical side of the game we got 10-15 years ago over this ''I'll flop on the floor because he's blew on my shirt nonsense''. I miss the now rare breed of physical centre forward. Zlatan is exactly that though. I don't take it back, someones stuck one on him and he's done it right back.

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It was a quite amusing line though to be fair

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Man City and their bogey :erm:

Great game earlier though between Spurs and Everton.

Nevermind, Aguero had other ideas.