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andrewstevenson 15-03-2016 00:17

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35827077)
I have info on new tivo sadly i'm not allowed to post it but i will say it is looking very good.
Also a eta for new tivo is summer/autumn 2016.

Can you give any little snippet, the smallest clue

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827068)
Base on info we have seen Virgin Media UK hope to give out more info by August 2016.;)

So it sounds like it might miss the olympics but defo in time for festive season

denphone 15-03-2016 06:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827068)
Base on info we have seen Virgin Media UK hope to give out more info by August 2016.;)

So they have moved it back a few more months it seems.

OLD BOY 15-03-2016 06:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35827077)
I have info on new tivo sadly i'm not allowed to post it but i will say it is looking very good.
Also a eta for new tivo is summer/autumn 2016.

Sooner rather than later, I hope! The end of the summer was when I was hoping for - my recordings are at their minimum at that time of the year due to the lack of good material to record in the summer months.

Added to that, my hard drive may be on the way out... :eek:

muppetman11 15-03-2016 07:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35827110)
Sooner rather than later, I hope! The end of the summer was when I was hoping for - my recordings are at their minimum at that time of the year due to the lack of good material to record in the summer months.

Added to that, my hard drive may be on the way out... :eek:

So you record a lot of linear tv.;):D

denphone 15-03-2016 07:45

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What a nice contradiction this early in the morning MM from the old boy....;):D

Tricky Trevor 15-03-2016 09:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827068)
Base on info we have seen Virgin Media UK hope to give out more info by August 2016.;)


So it won't be out in time for the Olympics after all :erm:

telegramsam 15-03-2016 09:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 35826908)
Isn't the charge £7 for HD Movies and Sports though? It's not like it's £3.50 each.

IE. Like Sky is £10 a month for HD it's your own fault if you don't subscribe to Movies and only Sports it is still the £7 in our case or the £10 in Skys per month?
Therefore I can't see us getting any reduction.

That`s a very good point. I only have Sky Sports in sd but if I want hd I have to pay an extra £7. A friend down the road has both movies and sports but still only pays £7 for the hd version.

Media Boy UK 15-03-2016 09:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricky Trevor (Post 35827147)
So it won't be out in time for the Olympics after all :erm:

We did mean in time for Olympics.

andrewstevenson 15-03-2016 10:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827149)
We did mean in time for Olympics.

But if there is a update in August and the olympics start of the 5th August that's not a lot of time

muppetman11 15-03-2016 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827149)
We did mean in time for Olympics.

Translation 'You haven't a clue'.:D

denphone 15-03-2016 10:37

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How dare you......;):D

andrewstevenson 15-03-2016 10:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35827167)
Translation 'You haven't a clue'.:D

That's a bit unfair media boy shares more information that virgin ever do, some respect is deserved

denphone 15-03-2016 11:15

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He meant it in jest Andrew.

andrewstevenson 15-03-2016 11:16

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Oh right didn't understand

OLD BOY 15-03-2016 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35827117)
So you record a lot of linear tv.;):D

Ha ha! Yes, I do, and will continue to do so while they remain in existence with decent material!;)

passingbat 15-03-2016 12:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35827117)
So you record a lot of linear tv.;):D

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35827179)
Ha ha! Yes, I do, and will continue to do so while they remain in existence with decent material!;)

One of the problems of relying purely on streaming is the point I made here

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35826919-post792.html

Until all streaming services start to keep back episodes and seasons, there will still be a requirement for linear channels and a PVR.

OLD BOY 15-03-2016 15:47

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35827191)
One of the problems of relying purely on streaming is the point I made here

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35826919-post792.html

Until all streaming services start to keep back episodes and seasons, there will still be a requirement for linear channels and a PVR.

Well, we will still need our PVRs until the last of the broadcast linears goes belly up.

denphone 15-03-2016 16:07

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Which will be never.....

blue666666 15-03-2016 18:37

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just hope full that virgin can secure some 4k content. bt/sky 4k channel on virgin not likely but 4k is still new so maybe virgin are negotiations for 4k content.perhaps the planets will line up and both sky/bt will allow their 4k channels on virginmedia.fingers crossed

Mad Max 15-03-2016 19:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35827278)
just hope full that virgin can secure some 4k content. bt/sky 4k channel on virgin not likely but 4k is still new so maybe virgin are negotiations for 4k content.perhaps the planets will line up and both sky/bt will allow their 4k channels on virginmedia.fingers crossed

The Tivo will need to be updated will it not to be able to display 4K?

muppetman11 15-03-2016 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35827290)
The Tivo will need to be updated will it not to be able to display 4K?

The current Tivo can't handle 4K , it will require a new box.

andrewstevenson 15-03-2016 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35827290)
The Tivo will need to be updated will it not to be able to display 4K?

Well defo the current TiVo would struggle if a software update was planned but I think it will be planned into a future tivo

Ultimate.Conj 16-03-2016 08:28

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Do the current owners of LG, have some stake in the Discovery channel?
Maybe this relationship could bring some of the first 4K content to the new Tivo box, as I'm sure the Discovery Channel will have some 4K programmes of their own soon.

theone2k10 16-03-2016 08:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35827360)
Do the current owners of LG, have some stake in the Discovery channel?
Maybe this relationship could bring some of the first 4K content to the new Tivo box, as I'm sure the Discovery Channel will have some 4K programmes of their own soon.

I think Liberty global do have a stake in Discovery networks, MB may be able to confirm this.

denphone 16-03-2016 09:14

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l think this is what you are thinking of.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ty-global-deal

devilincarnate 16-03-2016 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35827365)
l think this is what you are thinking of.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...ty-global-deal

Quote:

Malone, the chairman of Virgin Media's parent company Liberty Global, is one of the largest shareholders in Discovery Communications. Malone, chief executive of Discovery from 2005 until 2008 when the company was taken public in the US, holds a stake which gives him almost 30% of the voting power.

steveh 16-03-2016 11:24

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John Malone is the biggest individual shareholder in Discovery Communications and its previous holding company was spun off from his Liberty Media company. Liberty Global and Discovery also jointly own All3Media. So while independent businesses they probably do align on things when it makes commercial sense.

OLD BOY 16-03-2016 11:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steveh (Post 35827392)
John Malone is the biggest individual shareholder in Discovery Communications and its previous holding company was spun off from his Liberty Media company. Liberty Global and Discovery also jointly own All3Media. So while independent businesses they probably do align on things when it makes commercial sense.

It's a pity he can't provide us with additional versions of Discovery programmes on channels made specially for the Virgin Media audience.

There are a lot of channels out there as well that are not on Sky and which VM could tap into to provide a different feel to our TV offerings. I cannot understand why they don't do this.

nodrogd 16-03-2016 12:34

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Cable seems now to not be able to push the advantage it has always had over Sky. The ability to pick up signals from any satellite cluster they want & distribute it to their customers. Intelsat & Eutelsat used to provide many additional analogue services to cable customers in the past. Now all we see is what is already carried by Sky.

vincerooney 17-03-2016 08:19

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35827411)
Cable seems now to not be able to push the advantage it has always had over Sky. The ability to pick up signals from any satellite cluster they want & distribute it to their customers. Intelsat & Eutelsat used to provide many additional analogue services to cable customers in the past. Now all we see is what is already carried by Sky.

Absolutely agree. Cable is so much superior than sky. How did sky win? Corrupt Murdoch money? Probably

Advantages of cable. Faster internet. Weather proof tv. Why didn't cable cable a lot of money on getting those facts out constantly. Why did Virgin sell their only channels therefore losing their only card in negotiations ?

Who knows. Possible incompetence. But then again I'm incompetent in life so who am I to talk

BenMcr 17-03-2016 08:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35827607)
Why did Virgin sell their only channels therefore losing their only card in negotiations ?

Who knows. Possible incompetence. But then again I'm incompetent in life so who am I to talk

I would not call it incompetence and we do know why it was done.

The channels were sold to Sky in return to enable a long term agreement to carry Sky channels and get Sky HD channels for the first time.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...media-channels

Quote:

As part of the deal, Virgin Media has secured new long-term carriage agreements for its cable TV network for wholesale distribution of Sky's basic subscription channels, including Sky1, Sky News and Sky Arts, and the services it is selling.

The new carriage deals are understood to be for up to nine years. Previously the carriage deals tended to be struck every three years.

For an incremental wholesale fee, Virgin Media will also for the first time have the option of carrying any of Sky's basic HD channels, Sky Sports HD 1 and Sky Sports HD 2, and all Sky Movies HD channels.
If the timescale is correct then in return for selling the channels, we still have 3 years left to run on the agreement. Which seems to be a good deal to me.

denphone 17-03-2016 08:46

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And then Sky introduced a new channel and thus Virgin were caught with their pants down yet again...

BenMcr 17-03-2016 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35827621)
And then Sky introduced a new channel and thus Virgin were caught with their pants down yet again...

Have no say again no.

Any channel agreement is exactly that. Sky are not obligated to offer most of their channels (except the regulated Premiums), and are also under no obligation to tell a competitor about their future channel plans.

Virgin Media could only get the agreement for which Sky were prepared to agree to. If Sky did the deal know that they had plans to launch Sky Atlantic, then fair play to them.

But if Virgin Media hadn't done the deal and 'held out' then this forum would have been full of complaints that VM didn't have Sky HD channels, which was happening in 2010. No matter what VM do, the argument will always be about 'why didn't VM do something else'.

Since the launch of Sky Atlantic, it's not Virgin Media's decision as to whether the terms that Sky may be offering the channel are at a level that Virgin Media see to be of value to their customers. Currently, if Sky are offering it to VM, then it's not see as worth it.

harry_hitch 17-03-2016 09:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35827617)
I would not call it incompetence and we do know why it was done.

The channels were sold to Sky in return to enable a long term agreement to carry Sky channels and get Sky HD channels for the first time.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...media-channels



If the timescale is correct then in return for selling the channels, we still have 3 years left to run on the agreement. Which seems to be a good deal to me.

What happens after the 9 years though? Seems like sky still hold all the cards, what have VM left to offer if Sky play hardball again?

Mobes 17-03-2016 09:08

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In this day and age if you are NOT a content provider you have no hand to play.

We all know Sky & BT would prefer to get the extra revenues from their channels being on VM.

However when sat round the negotiating table these providers absolutely have the upper hand as they know full well many, many VM customers would walk away and find alternatives if BT/SKY channels were no longer on the VM platform.

VM had a good chance of gaining ground with TIVO. But this clunky, slow piece of kit never set the world alight like it had the potential to. It made the once superior VM On Demand content a pain in the backside to watch.

And now SKY have just as much (if not more) OD content with a better, quicker box with exclusive content and linear channels. VM are sadly lagging behind once again.

I'm very interested to see the new TIVO box when it (eventually) comes out.

Maybe that will change things. But for now VM are a company losing customers and beholden to others for content.... it's not a great situation to be in.


Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35827624)
Have no say again no.

Any channel agreement is exactly that. Sky are not obligated to offer most of their channels (except the regulated Premiums), and are also under no obligation to tell a competitor about their future channel plans.

Virgin Media could only get the agreement for which Sky were prepared to agree to. If Sky did the deal know that they had plans to launch Sky Atlantic, then fair play to them.

But if Virgin Media hadn't done the deal and 'held out' then this forum would have been full of complaints that VM didn't have Sky HD channels, which was happening in 2010

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post1119.html

Since the launch of Sky Atlantic, it's not Virgin Media's decision as to whether the terms that Sky may be offering the channel are at a level that Virgin Media see to be of value to their customers. Currently, if Sky are offering it to VM, then it's not see as worth it.


BenMcr 17-03-2016 09:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35827626)
What happens after the 9 years though? Seems like sky still hold all the cards, what have VM left to offer if Sky play hardball again?

I don't know.

But the alternative could have been not having any of the Sky HD channels for the last 6 years, or paying significantly more for the last 6 years in order for Virgin Media to have them and keep their own channels.

It's great looking back over the last 6 years and going 'oh if only VM had done this that or the other' but channel deals aren't done with a time machine.

Virgin Media customers were telling Virgin Media they wanting the Sky HD channels so Virgin Media did a deal that got their customers the Sky HD channels.

steveh 17-03-2016 10:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35827624)
Have no say again no.
Any channel agreement is exactly that. Sky are not obligated to offer most of their channels (except the regulated Premiums), and are also under no obligation to tell a competitor about their future channel plans.

I thought none of the premiums were regulated now? Sky Sports 1 + 2 were removed from the "wholesale must offer" requirement last November and the Competition Commission decided in 2012 that Sky did not have a monopoly on first-run movies with the arrival of new services so they are not regulated either.

http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...sStatement.pdf
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ain_report.pdf

BenMcr 17-03-2016 10:10

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Good point. I had forgotten about OFCOM making that change.

So to amend my previous statement, Sky are not obligated to offer any of their channels.

Media Boy UK 17-03-2016 10:28

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Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Two new channels start tests on Virgin Media UK.

Media Boy Sources has confirmed that Virgin Media UK has today started to test the following QVC Channels:

-QVC Style
-QVC Beauty

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

denphone 17-03-2016 10:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35827641)
I don't know.

But the alternative could have been not having any of the Sky HD channels for the last 6 years, or paying significantly more for the last 6 years in order for Virgin Media to have them and keep their own channels.

It's great looking back over the last 6 years and going 'oh if only VM had done this that or the other' but channel deals aren't done with a time machine.

Virgin Media customers were telling Virgin Media they wanting the Sky HD channels so Virgin Media did a deal that got their customers the Sky HD channels.

And now Virgin Media customers are now telling Virgin Media they want several other things ;) so lets hope they start listening again soon instead of being overly obsessed with their broadband speeds and not much else it seems.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827653)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Two new channels start tests on Virgin Media UK.

Media Boy Sources has confirmed that Virgin Media UK has today started to test the following QVC Channels:

-QVC Style
-QVC Beauty

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Well if they did their research surveys l would be very surprised if these two would be the must have two channels that customers wanted.;)

1andrew1 17-03-2016 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35827627)
In this day and age if you are NOT a content provider you have no hand to play.

You do have a hand to play, you have viewer numbers (for advertising) and money.
VM's argument for selling the channels was that its channels did not drive subscriptions whereas faster speeds and a bigger network do drive subscriptions. LGI does own stakes in some content businesses - 50% of All3Media, 100% of TV3 in Ireland and 9.9% of ITV so things may change here in the future.

Mobes 17-03-2016 11:24

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Apart from VM are losing customers...higher broadband speeds or not.

Sky withdrawing their basic channels from VM had minimal effect.

I'm also not saying that when the 9 year contract comes up for re-newel then Sky will withdraw ANY channels; I'm merely pointing out that at the start of the 9 year contract negotiations VM had a bargaining tool; they had channels to sell.

What do they have now? A reduced customer base!

Not brilliant eh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35827665)
You do have a hand to play, you have viewer numbers (for advertising) and money.
VM's argument for selling the channels was that its channels did not drive subscriptions whereas faster speeds and a bigger network do drive subscriptions. LGI does own stakes in some content businesses - 50% of All3Media, 100% of TV3 in Ireland and 9.9% of ITV so things may change here in the future.


1andrew1 17-03-2016 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mobes (Post 35827681)
I'm merely pointing out that at the start of the 9 year contract negotiations VM had a bargaining tool; they had channels to sell.

What do they have now? A reduced customer base!

Not brilliant eh!

I think that's incorrect. VM's customer base is far larger now than ten years ago. Don't forget LGI also owns VM Ireland and bought Smallworld as well.

Mobes 17-03-2016 12:21

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Apologies I was referring to an article on here about how VM have lost customers as a % relative to last year not as a whole since 10 years ago...but still, not a great position.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35827684)
I think that's incorrect. VM's customer base is far larger now than ten years ago. Don't forget LGI also owns VM Ireland and bought Smallworld as well.


Media Boy UK 17-03-2016 14:20

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Virgin Media UK's deal for Sky is not up til 2019.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...ike-major.html

Virgin did re sign that 9 year deal in 2014 this time just for 5 years so that Sky Sports 3 HD, Sky Sports 4 HD, Sky Sports 5 HD (from launch) and Sky Sports F1 HD, with Sky Sports News HD and Sky News HD all launch on Virgin Media UK.

Media Boy UK 17-03-2016 19:50

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827653)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Two new channels start tests on Virgin Media UK.

Media Boy Sources has confirmed that Virgin Media UK has today started to test the following QVC Channels:

-QVC Style
-QVC Beauty

©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

QVC is own by Liberty Interactive

Quote:

Liberty Interactive Corporation, commonly referred to as Liberty Interactive, is an American media conglomerate controlled by company Chairman John C. Malone, who owns a majority of the voting shares.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Interactive

Where did we see John C. Malone name before?

RichardCoulter 17-03-2016 20:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35827757)
QVC is own by Liberty Interactive



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Interactive

Where did we see John C. Malone name before?

This probably explains why we are now getting the missing QVC channels.

I'm surprised that they don't appear to be putting QVC Beauty HD and QVC+1 HD on at the same time; perhaps these are Freeview exclusives to drive up sales of Freeview HD boxes like Channel 4+1 HD etc??

Media Boy UK 17-03-2016 20:26

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35827762)
This probably explains why we are now getting the missing QVC channels.

I'm surprised that they don't appear to be putting QVC Beauty HD and QVC+1 HD on at the same time; perhaps these are Freeview exclusives to drive up sales of Freeview HD boxes like Channel 4+1 HD etc??

On that link we posted we found Liberty Interactive also own:

-Expedia, Inc.
-Time Warner Inc. (1% through Liberty Capital and 2% through Liberty Interactive)
-Viacom Inc. (1%)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Interactive

Ultimate.Conj 18-03-2016 13:21

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Sky Sports Mix, looks like a sky customer exclusive

In its latest attempt to get one over BT, Sky has announced Sky Sports Mix, a new channel that’ll be free for all of its TV customers across the UK and Ireland. It’s set to launch this summer, and will televise a variety of live sporting events, including both men’s and women’s football from home and abroad, as well as cricket and golf. But mainly football (hopefully).

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/03/new...otball-to-all/

denphone 18-03-2016 13:30

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It is a Sky exclusive.

telegramsam 18-03-2016 13:37

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I`m wondering though if much of it`s content will be mirrored on one of their other sports channels like sky sports 5 often has the same live football match on as on other sky sports channel? Still it`ll be good for non sky sports subscribers. Thought it might of been on virgin too though but I understand why it isn`t.

muppetman11 18-03-2016 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35827855)
I`m wondering though if much of it`s content will be mirrored on one of their other sports channels like sky sports 5 often has the same live football match on as on other sky sports channel? Still it`ll be good for non sky sports subscribers. Thought it might of been on virgin too though but I understand why it isn`t.

All its content will mirror the Sky Sports channels , it's being used to give those subscribers who don't take Sky Sports a taste of certain sports.

andrewstevenson 18-03-2016 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35827856)
All its content will mirror the Sky Sports channels , it's being used to give those subscribers who don't take Sky Sports a taste of certain sports.

So it's a new game by Sky, if you are a virgin media sky sports customer you get access to all, virgin media non sky sports then nothing but sky customers who don't subscribe to sky sports get access to some sports so not fair

OLD BOY 18-03-2016 18:16

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Well, we don't know for sure until Virgin Media tell us what's going on (or if it doesn't arrive on the start date!).

However, I wouldn't get your hopes up... :no::no:

Superblade7 18-03-2016 20:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35827897)
So it's a new game by Sky, if you are a virgin media sky sports customer you get access to all, virgin media non sky sports then nothing but sky customers who don't subscribe to sky sports get access to some sports so not fair

Why is it not fair Andrew? Each provider has the right to do as they wish. If you wish to get all the benefits Sky have to offer then you subscribe to Sky, same with Virgin Media and BT.

For example I switched to Sky TV from VM last year but then if I want BT Sports in HD then it's £23.99 per month. However if I take BT broadband I can get the same package for £9.00 (or less at the moment). Or if I take VM XL TV I get it free! I don't believe that's unfair, it's simply competition and you have the option to pay whichever company you wish to provide the services you require.

Sky are fighting back at BT and offering some free sports to their customers who don't subscribe to Sky Sports. If you want this new channel then Sky is the place to be (unless you have the Sky Sports package on another provider).

You have the option to pay whomever you wish for your pay TV package so use your consumer power and choose the best one for you. That will then be fair!

andrewstevenson 18-03-2016 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35827920)
Why is it not fair Andrew? Each provider has the right to do as they wish. If you wish to get all the benefits Sky have to offer then you subscribe to Sky, same with Virgin Media and BT.

For example I switched to Sky TV from VM last year but then if I want BT Sports in HD then it's £23.99 per month. However if I take BT broadband I can get the same package for £9.00 (or less at the moment). Or if I take VM XL TV I get it free! I don't believe that's unfair, it's simply competition and you have the option to pay whichever company you wish to provide the services you require.

Sky are fighting back at BT and offering some free sports to their customers who don't subscribe to Sky Sports. If you want this new channel then Sky is the place to be (unless you have the Sky Sports package on another provider).

You have the option to pay whomever you wish for your pay TV package so use your consumer power and choose the best one for you. That will then be fair!

That is a good point but I do have sky sports with virgin so we are entitled to that

OLD BOY 19-03-2016 09:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35827939)
That is a good point but I do have sky sports with virgin so we are entitled to that

I agree, Andrew. Sky are treating sections of its customers appallingly. Whether we subscribe to Sky channels through Virgin Media, BT or the Sky satellite system, we should all have the ability to access all their channels, as long as the operator the customer was with was prepared to pay the appropriate price for them.

I used to watch how Sky was developing its product with keen interest, figuring that if it moved ahead of cable, I would happily switch to Sky. But now, I am disinclined to make such a step because I am so annoyed at the disdain they show for their customers.

It's not only their non satellite subscribers, either. They make it as awkward as they possibly can for people to cancel their Sky subscriptions, for example.

Sky think they are being clever, but I reckon they are shooting themselves in the foot. They could attract so many more customers and make more money still if they treated us all with respect.

Even if I had a bargepole, I wouldn't touch Sky with it if I had the choice at the moment.

andrewstevenson 19-03-2016 09:57

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I agree with you on this, it doesn't matter where there customers come from we should all be treated equal

muppetman11 19-03-2016 10:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Sky isn't denying VM any content the content is all available through a Sky Sports subscription. On Sky it's making certain sporting events free for it's entire customer base as I say a sound business move and probably one they'll use to push hefty price increases through this June.

theone2k10 19-03-2016 11:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35827981)
I agree, Andrew. Sky are treating sections of its customers appallingly. Whether we subscribe to Sky channels through Virgin Media, BT or the Sky satellite system, we should all have the ability to access all their channels, as long as the operator the customer was with was prepared to pay the appropriate price for them.

I used to watch how Sky was developing its product with keen interest, figuring that if it moved ahead of cable, I would happily switch to Sky. But now, I am disinclined to make such a step because I am so annoyed at the disdain they show for their customers.

It's not only their non satellite subscribers, either. They make it as awkward as they possibly can for people to cancel their Sky subscriptions, for example.

Sky think they are being clever, but I reckon they are shooting themselves in the foot. They could attract so many more customers and make more money still if they treated us all with respect.

Even if I had a bargepole, I wouldn't touch Sky with it if I had the choice at the moment.

Because vm have opened up their network haven't they? :rolleyes:

andrewstevenson 19-03-2016 15:02

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I have heard stories about customers wanting to leave sky but unable to due to sky being persisant and even discounts require what I consider private information

theone2k10 19-03-2016 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35828049)
I have heard stories about customers wanting to leave sky but unable to due to sky being persisant and even discounts require what I consider private information

They are just doing what most businesses do try to retain customers, vm also offer deals if you try to leave as do BT and many others it is called business.
You are free to leave at anytime from any company once you fulfill your contract no-one is preventing anyone from leaving, all SKY and VM are doing is trying to retain customers and throwing in sweetners such as discounts.

OLD BOY 19-03-2016 15:49

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35828053)
They are just doing what most businesses do try to retain customers, vm also offer deals if you try to leave as do BT and many others it is called business.
You are free to leave at anytime from any company once you fulfill your contract no-one is preventing anyone from leaving, all SKY and VM are doing is trying to retain customers and throwing in sweetners such as discounts.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/p...-to-leave.html

denphone 19-03-2016 16:31

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Yes these tactics are not surprising in my book and are quite common in this industry.

RichardCoulter 19-03-2016 16:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35827855)
I`m wondering though if much of it`s content will be mirrored on one of their other sports channels like sky sports 5 often has the same live football match on as on other sky sports channel? Still it`ll be good for non sky sports subscribers. Thought it might of been on virgin too though but I understand why it isn`t.

I don't understand why, if the idea is to stimulate interest in the Sky Sports channels, it isn't on VM to do exactly the same job.


Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35827981)
I agree, Andrew. Sky are treating sections of its customers appallingly. Whether we subscribe to Sky channels through Virgin Media, BT or the Sky satellite system, we should all have the ability to access all their channels, as long as the operator the customer was with was prepared to pay the appropriate price for them.

I used to watch how Sky was developing its product with keen interest, figuring that if it moved ahead of cable, I would happily switch to Sky. But now, I am disinclined to make such a step because I am so annoyed at the disdain they show for their customers.

It's not only their non satellite subscribers, either. They make it as awkward as they possibly can for people to cancel their Sky subscriptions, for example.

Sky think they are being clever, but I reckon they are shooting themselves in the foot. They could attract so many more customers and make more money still if they treated us all with respect.

Even if I had a bargepole, I wouldn't touch Sky with it if I had the choice at the moment.

I couldn't agree more. Sky will never get another penny out of me and I will continue to bar them from any properties that I have control of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35828053)
They are just doing what most businesses do try to retain customers, vm also offer deals if you try to leave as do BT and many others it is called business.
You are free to leave at anytime from any company once you fulfill your contract no-one is preventing anyone from leaving, all SKY and VM are doing is trying to retain customers and throwing in sweetners such as discounts.

But they take it to a whole new level... I'd love to see this vile, disgusting company go bust after investing so much, then watch someone pick up the assets for a song.

If IPTV really takes off, as is predicted by many, we may well see this happen...

passingbat 19-03-2016 17:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35828054)


I read the full transcript; almost unbelievable.

muppetman11 19-03-2016 18:16

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I must have been lucky I've always found Sky customer services excellent likewise I've had no issues with cancelling the service over the years.

The worst customer services I've ever dealt with bar none are BT.

denphone 19-03-2016 18:51

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Yes l remember BT many many moons ago and its seems they have never learnt their lessons.

theone2k10 19-03-2016 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35828078)
I don't understand why, if the idea is to stimulate interest in the Sky Sports channels, it isn't on VM to do exactly the same job.




I couldn't agree more. Sky will never get another penny out of me and I will continue to bar them from any properties that I have control of.



But they take it to a whole new level... I'd love to see this vile, disgusting company go bust after investing so much, then watch someone pick up the assets for a song.

If IPTV really takes off, as is predicted by many, we may well see this happen...

Personally i wouldn't wish any company to go bust at the moment as a lot of jobs would be lost in the process, iptv will no doubt take off but i think we will see the likes of SKY and possibly vm change tactics and offer a iptv based service, SKY already do this with nowtv, vm possibly could do something if they pull out their finger and start going for the rights of shows that are still yet to be picked up prime examples being Salem, Izombie. Both superb shows that do well in the USA that haven't been picked up in UK.

---------- Post added at 22:49 ---------- Previous post was at 22:48 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35828094)
I must have been lucky I've always found Sky customer services excellent likewise I've had no issues with cancelling the service over the years.

The worst customer services I've ever dealt with bar none are BT.

Have to agree about BT very poor customer service.

Bananaman_007 20-03-2016 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35828094)
I must have been lucky I've always found Sky customer services excellent likewise I've had no issues with cancelling the service over the years.

The worst customer services I've ever dealt with bar none are BT.

I had to cancel a Sky account for my parents and it was like pulling teeth. Sky had been nothing but rude and impersonal sending threatening letters to my parents about disconnecting the box from the phone line. I Know my parents they would not touch anything like that yet when Sky came to check it was fine every time. This went on for years until Sky then started just taking money from my mams account for her not having the box connected.

I had already phoned Virgin got my parents a deal before canceling the sky. I was on for almost 2 hours while the arrogant douche on the other end slagged off virgin media and would not take no for an answer. In the 2 hours i said i wanted to cancel over 30 times.

I have never had anything but a professional reply from Virgin when changing or canceling services

muppetman11 20-03-2016 14:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35828186)
I had to cancel a Sky account for my parents and it was like pulling teeth. Sky had been nothing but rude and impersonal sending threatening letters to my parents about disconnecting the box from the phone line. I Know my parents they would not touch anything like that yet when Sky came to check it was fine every time. This went on for years until Sky then started just taking money from my mams account for her not having the box connected.

I had already phoned Virgin got my parents a deal before canceling the sky. I was on for almost 2 hours while the arrogant douche on the other end slagged off virgin media and would not take no for an answer. In the 2 hours i said i wanted to cancel over 30 times.

I have never had anything but a professional reply from Virgin when changing or canceling services

Nobody would ever keep me on for 2 hrs if all I was looking to do was cancel.

People will always have differing views and experiences on customer service , look at the Ofcom complaints figures to get the average.

I can only give my experience with Sky and they have always been helpful and on numerous occasions given me follow up phone calls.

tweedle 20-03-2016 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35828186)

I have never had anything but a professional reply from Virgin when changing or canceling services

I wish I could say the same, when I canceled Virginmedia I was lied to, ignored and even hung up on.

Firstly I was told if I went to Sky I would only get 2mb broadband as that's all Sky offer, then I was told it's not even sky's service its renamed BT adsl. Then I was told I would lose my picture from Sky TV at least once a month due to weather an potentially every time it rained. I was told if I had a line fault BT would charge me over £100 just to come an look at the fault and even more f to required fixing.

Then I thought I had disconnected and a week later a new contract dropped through my letter box. Then on ringing up to cancel for the 2nd time (after a previous 50 minute phone call) whilst being transferred for some reason the line got dropped. Anyway after a total of 3 phone calls and nearly 3 hours on the phone............

I went with sky on their LLU ADSL 2 at 19mb then their fibre service and and connected @80mb and I think the picture has dropped once in 3 years. An as for the £100 call out fee, I've never had a single issue with my line so never needed a call out. But it's untrue anyway,

RichardCoulter 20-03-2016 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35828119)
Personally i wouldn't wish any company to go bust at the moment as a lot of jobs would be lost in the process, iptv will no doubt take off but i think we will see the likes of SKY and possibly vm change tactics and offer a iptv based service, SKY already do this with nowtv, vm possibly could do something if they pull out their finger and start going for the rights of shows that are still yet to be picked up prime examples being Salem, Izombie. Both superb shows that do well in the USA that haven't been picked up in UK.[COLOR="Silver"]

I don't wish for the vast majority of Sky employees to lose their jobs, which is why I hope that if it was taken over for a song, the vast majority would keep their jobs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35828186)
I had to cancel a Sky account for my parents and it was like pulling teeth. Sky had been nothing but rude and impersonal sending threatening letters to my parents about disconnecting the box from the phone line. I Know my parents they would not touch anything like that yet when Sky came to check it was fine every time. This went on for years until Sky then started just taking money from my mams account for her not having the box connected.

I had already phoned Virgin got my parents a deal before canceling the sky. I was on for almost 2 hours while the arrogant douche on the other end slagged off virgin media and would not take no for an answer. In the 2 hours i said i wanted to cancel over 30 times.

I have never had anything but a professional reply from Virgin when changing or canceling services

Sounds about right for Sky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35828201)
Nobody would ever keep me on for 2 hrs if all I was looking to do was cancel.

Same here, but some people are too timid, shy or afraid of being seen to be impolite- which Sky ruthlessly abuse.

Can anybody here receive 'That's Oxford'?

Rumours are going round that they have today gone off air.

tweedle 20-03-2016 19:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35828208)
Same here, but some people are too timid, shy or afraid of being seen to be impolite- which Sky ruthlessly abuse.

Just like Virginmedia sending unsolicited doorstep "thugs" trying to get my wife's 82 year old mother to sign up to 200mb broadband even though the area is well known for being over subscribed with "live" fault codes. Even on the official VM forums the forum staff admit the area is suffering "utilisation" issues but still try to sell vulnerable people a service that cannot be provided.

We have complained to the relevant bodies and emailed BBC watchdog, but nothing back yet.


EDIT I also know of a very recent case where a Virginmedia doorstep thug advised someone to use a different name! I have advised they ring the sales guy and record the meeting.

RichardCoulter 21-03-2016 10:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tweedle (Post 35828242)
Just like Virginmedia sending unsolicited doorstep "thugs" trying to get my wife's 82 year old mother to sign up to 200mb broadband even though the area is well known for being over subscribed with "live" fault codes. Even on the official VM forums the forum staff admit the area is suffering "utilisation" issues but still try to sell vulnerable people a service that cannot be provided.

We have complained to the relevant bodies and emailed BBC watchdog, but nothing back yet.


EDIT I also know of a very recent case where a Virginmedia doorstep thug advised someone to use a different name! I have advised they ring the sales guy and record the meeting.

Sounds like commission hungry sales people again.

I know of a man well into his 80's, he didn't even have a computer, yet a salesman had persuaded/pressured him into taking a very high speed broadband service.

He went to his neighbour for help as he didn't understand what was going on. The lady rang VM to explain/complain/cancel.

They initially tried to fob her off with the "we can't talk to you as it's not your account", "data protection" blah blah.

She persisted and eventually got it cancelled.

Does anybody here live in Oxford? I'm keen to know if That's Oxford is still off air on Freeview and/or VM (if they carry it).

heavyside 21-03-2016 10:40

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Is this thread still called 'Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV' or have I somehow entered a parallel universe?

Mad Max 21-03-2016 10:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35828327)
Is this thread still called 'Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV' or have I somehow entered a parallel universe?


Exactly, we are now on about "doorstep" thugs................:rolleyes:

Media Boy UK 21-03-2016 10:55

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
BBC Three TV Channel will close on March 31st - Info from Virgin Media Forum.

denphone 21-03-2016 10:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
The only thing coming soon seems to be more price rises...

andrewstevenson 21-03-2016 13:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Personally I feel with all the channels people are asking for, I don't think QVC extra type channels are not a priority. They are focusing on even faster broadband, aging TiVo, no real new channels to shout home about, if the only thing coming soon is even faster broadband and QVC God help us

1andrew1 21-03-2016 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andrewstevenson (Post 35828363)
Personally I feel with all the channels people are asking for, I don't think QVC extra type channels are not a priority. They are focusing on even faster broadband, aging TiVo, no real new channels to shout home about, if the only thing coming soon is even faster broadband and QVC God help us

QVC will pay money to VM so they will be a priority for the company. A new Tivo and enhanced TV offering look on the cards for 2016.

BenMcr 21-03-2016 14:39

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Apologies if this has been mentioned, but CBBC and CBeebies Picks are available On Demand for TV XL customers with TiVo

http://www.virginmediapresents.com/#...cpicks_issue12

Media Boy UK 21-03-2016 16:16

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
New ITV HD Channels coming soon to Virgin Media UK.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...g-soon-to.html

---------- Post added at 17:16 ---------- Previous post was at 16:40 ----------

MB Views: Where will the Sky Sports Mix EPG Slot comes from?

Here's our views.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...e-for-sky.html

muppetman11 21-03-2016 16:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Sky Sports Mix will be available in HD for Sky
HD subscribers.

Media Boy UK 21-03-2016 16:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35828409)
Sky Sports Mix will be available in HD for Sky
HD subscribers.

We like this wee bit on the Sky Sports web site:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky Sports (Post 35828368)
Sky Sports Mix will be available in the same number of Sky TV homes as Sky Sports News HQ, a channel with an annual reach of 17m viewers.

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...sky-sports-mix

muppetman11 21-03-2016 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35828413)
We like this wee bit on the Sky Sports web site:



http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...sky-sports-mix

Why what's so special about that ?

johnathome 21-03-2016 17:37

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35828425)
Why what's so special about that ?

Agreed, it does specify SkyTV homes.

Media Boy UK 21-03-2016 20:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35828425)
Why what's so special about that ?

We did not read right before posting.

theone2k10 21-03-2016 21:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35828395)
New ITV HD Channels coming soon to Virgin Media UK.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...g-soon-to.html

---------- Post added at 17:16 ---------- Previous post was at 16:40 ----------

MB Views: Where will the Sky Sports Mix EPG Slot comes from?

Here's our views.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...e-for-sky.html

SKY Sports mix will not be on vm.

Media Boy UK 21-03-2016 22:01

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35828488)
SKY Sports mix will not be on vm.

Sky Sources confirmed that to us tonight saying: "Very Unlikely that Sky Sports Mix will be on Virgin Media in the near future."

So if Sky Sports Mix is set to have an HD Channel on Sky we now feel that Sky Sports F1 and Sky Sports F1 HD will close on all networks for Sky to reuse their EPG Slots on Sky for Sky Sports Mix and Sky Sports Mix HD.

F1 Motor Racing will then move to other Sky Sports Channels.

We saw listing this past weekend for F1 Motor Racing Live on BOTH Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports F1.

Arthurgray50@blu 21-03-2016 22:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
I can now see a problem arising from this.

Sky, could move some big games from the PL to Sky Sports Mix. Therefore, those wanting to watch a big game. Can't

And VM now block any streaming of live games.

Why doesn't VM and Sky, just sit round a table and thrash this out.

But, at the end of the day ITS US THAT END UP PAYING FOR IT.

1andrew1 21-03-2016 23:42

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35828496)
I can now see a problem arising from this.

Sky, could move some big games from the PL to Sky Sports Mix. Therefore, those wanting to watch a big game. Can't

And VM now block any streaming of live games.

Why doesn't VM and Sky, just sit round a table and thrash this out.

But, at the end of the day ITS US THAT END UP PAYING FOR IT.

I think the regulators and Premier League would object if this happened but you're right, VM needs to be wary of this.
Not sure if Sky wants to talk really, they want to promote their own platform which is understandable but frustrating at times.

Media Boy UK 21-03-2016 23:48

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35828498)
I think the regulators and Premier League would object if this happened but you're right, VM needs to be wary of this.
Not sure if Sky wants to talk really, they want to promote their own platform which is understandable but frustrating at times.

Maybe for all we know Sky will launch Sky Sports Mix along the same lines of BT Sport Showcase re Showing the same thing on two channels.

Sky Sports Mix look like an part time channel.

Anypermitedroute 22-03-2016 05:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35828498)
I think the regulators and Premier League would object if this happened but you're right, VM needs to be wary of this.
Not sure if Sky wants to talk really, they want to promote their own platform which is understandable but frustrating at times.

This will be a simulcast channel similar to BT sports free, I cannot foresee a situation where a fee paying skysports customer cannot see the sport because they moved it exclusively to skysports mix, this channel is a method of enticing new people to the full package

The interesting question would be will it be on nowtv because that would be a game changer; with the envisaged increase in prices, there is not a lot of difference between skysports via VM, sky or nowtv

Chad 22-03-2016 09:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35828504)
The interesting question would be will it be on nowtv because that would be a game changer; with the envisaged increase in prices, there is not a lot of difference between skysports via VM, sky or nowtv

It's a very good point. With NOWTV launching a new box later in the year, with a freeview tuner built in, SKY Sports Mix would make it even more appealing. A PVR version would have been the icing on the cake however I think the catch up services on NOWTV makes a PVR option less essential, especially if UKTV launches on there soon.

OLD BOY 22-03-2016 09:32

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35828496)
I can now see a problem arising from this.

Sky, could move some big games from the PL to Sky Sports Mix. Therefore, those wanting to watch a big game. Can't

And VM now block any streaming of live games.

Why doesn't VM and Sky, just sit round a table and thrash this out.

But, at the end of the day ITS US THAT END UP PAYING FOR IT.

That's a bit of a stretch, to think that some Premier league games would transfer to Sky Sports Mix, which is just a showcase channel.

Sky Sports Mix might duplicate a premier league game but it won't be shown exclusively on that channel.

---------- Post added at 10:32 ---------- Previous post was at 10:31 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35828504)
This will be a simulcast channel similar to BT sports free, I cannot foresee a situation where a fee paying skysports customer cannot see the sport because they moved it exclusively to skysports mix, this channel is a method of enticing new people to the full package

The interesting question would be will it be on nowtv because that would be a game changer; with the envisaged increase in prices, there is not a lot of difference between skysports via VM, sky or nowtv

Agreed!

Chad 22-03-2016 09:34

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35828499)
Maybe for all we know Sky will launch Sky Sports Mix along the same lines of BT Sport Showcase re Showing the same thing on two channels.

Sky Sports Mix look like an part time channel.

From the surveys last year the intention is to show around 10 hours a week of live action on the channel. The rest of the time will be padded out with documentaries, archive sports events, highlights of recent events and shows like Soccer AM and The F1 Show. From there I'm sure any additional time will be filled with SKY Sports News.

They've taken the lead from BT Sports Showcase but all signs suggest SKY intend to run SKY Sports Mix as a proper channel fulltime channel. BT Sports Showcase is pretty much an infomercial channel which shows around 4 hours of live action per week, when European football is played. There's been weeks when there's been nothing more on there than their looped promos.

1andrew1 22-03-2016 09:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35828504)
The interesting question would be will it be on nowtv because that would be a game changer; with the envisaged increase in prices, there is not a lot of difference between skysports via VM, sky or nowtv

According to Sky "Sky Sports Mix will be available in the same number of Sky TV homes as Sky Sports News HQ, a channel with an annual reach of 17m viewers."
So we don't know if "Sky TV homes" includes Now TV as well. Certainly, Sky Sports News HQ is only available to Now TV subscribers with a sports pass, not with just an entertainment pass.

Chad 22-03-2016 10:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35828558)
According to Sky "Sky Sports Mix will be available in the same number of Sky TV homes as Sky Sports News HQ, a channel with an annual reach of 17m viewers."
So we don't know if "Sky TV homes" includes Now TV as well. Certainly, Sky Sports News HQ is only available to Now TV subscribers with a sports pass, not with just an entertainment pass.

You get SKY Sports News on NOW TV with any of the passes be it entertainment, movies or SKY Sports. Even a SKY Sports day pass gives you the channel for a month.

http://www.uswitch.com/tv/news/2014/...to_now_tv_box/

1andrew1 22-03-2016 10:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35828561)
You get SKY Sports News on NOW TV with any of the passes be it entertainment, movies or SKY Sports. Even a SKY Sports day pass gives you the channel for a month.

http://www.uswitch.com/tv/news/2014/...to_now_tv_box/

That was true a couple of years ago but I believe it now it requires a Sky Sports pass; I've tried it via a free NPower three months' Entertainment offer and it says you need a sports pass to view. There are lots of links to when SSNHQ was available in the other packs but I can't find one when it ended being available in them.


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