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Added to that, my hard drive may be on the way out... :eek: |
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What a nice contradiction this early in the morning MM from the old boy....;):D
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So it won't be out in time for the Olympics after all :erm: |
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How dare you......;):D
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He meant it in jest Andrew.
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Oh right didn't understand
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Which will be never.....
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just hope full that virgin can secure some 4k content. bt/sky 4k channel on virgin not likely but 4k is still new so maybe virgin are negotiations for 4k content.perhaps the planets will line up and both sky/bt will allow their 4k channels on virginmedia.fingers crossed
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Do the current owners of LG, have some stake in the Discovery channel?
Maybe this relationship could bring some of the first 4K content to the new Tivo box, as I'm sure the Discovery Channel will have some 4K programmes of their own soon. |
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John Malone is the biggest individual shareholder in Discovery Communications and its previous holding company was spun off from his Liberty Media company. Liberty Global and Discovery also jointly own All3Media. So while independent businesses they probably do align on things when it makes commercial sense.
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There are a lot of channels out there as well that are not on Sky and which VM could tap into to provide a different feel to our TV offerings. I cannot understand why they don't do this. |
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Cable seems now to not be able to push the advantage it has always had over Sky. The ability to pick up signals from any satellite cluster they want & distribute it to their customers. Intelsat & Eutelsat used to provide many additional analogue services to cable customers in the past. Now all we see is what is already carried by Sky.
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Advantages of cable. Faster internet. Weather proof tv. Why didn't cable cable a lot of money on getting those facts out constantly. Why did Virgin sell their only channels therefore losing their only card in negotiations ? Who knows. Possible incompetence. But then again I'm incompetent in life so who am I to talk |
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The channels were sold to Sky in return to enable a long term agreement to carry Sky channels and get Sky HD channels for the first time. http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...media-channels Quote:
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And then Sky introduced a new channel and thus Virgin were caught with their pants down yet again...
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Any channel agreement is exactly that. Sky are not obligated to offer most of their channels (except the regulated Premiums), and are also under no obligation to tell a competitor about their future channel plans. Virgin Media could only get the agreement for which Sky were prepared to agree to. If Sky did the deal know that they had plans to launch Sky Atlantic, then fair play to them. But if Virgin Media hadn't done the deal and 'held out' then this forum would have been full of complaints that VM didn't have Sky HD channels, which was happening in 2010. No matter what VM do, the argument will always be about 'why didn't VM do something else'. Since the launch of Sky Atlantic, it's not Virgin Media's decision as to whether the terms that Sky may be offering the channel are at a level that Virgin Media see to be of value to their customers. Currently, if Sky are offering it to VM, then it's not see as worth it. |
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In this day and age if you are NOT a content provider you have no hand to play.
We all know Sky & BT would prefer to get the extra revenues from their channels being on VM. However when sat round the negotiating table these providers absolutely have the upper hand as they know full well many, many VM customers would walk away and find alternatives if BT/SKY channels were no longer on the VM platform. VM had a good chance of gaining ground with TIVO. But this clunky, slow piece of kit never set the world alight like it had the potential to. It made the once superior VM On Demand content a pain in the backside to watch. And now SKY have just as much (if not more) OD content with a better, quicker box with exclusive content and linear channels. VM are sadly lagging behind once again. I'm very interested to see the new TIVO box when it (eventually) comes out. Maybe that will change things. But for now VM are a company losing customers and beholden to others for content.... it's not a great situation to be in. Quote:
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But the alternative could have been not having any of the Sky HD channels for the last 6 years, or paying significantly more for the last 6 years in order for Virgin Media to have them and keep their own channels. It's great looking back over the last 6 years and going 'oh if only VM had done this that or the other' but channel deals aren't done with a time machine. Virgin Media customers were telling Virgin Media they wanting the Sky HD channels so Virgin Media did a deal that got their customers the Sky HD channels. |
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http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...sStatement.pdf http://webarchive.nationalarchives.g...ain_report.pdf |
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Good point. I had forgotten about OFCOM making that change.
So to amend my previous statement, Sky are not obligated to offer any of their channels. |
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Media Boy Sources has confirmed that Virgin Media UK has today started to test the following QVC Channels: -QVC Style -QVC Beauty ©copyright 2016 Media Boy 2006 - 2016. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production. |
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VM's argument for selling the channels was that its channels did not drive subscriptions whereas faster speeds and a bigger network do drive subscriptions. LGI does own stakes in some content businesses - 50% of All3Media, 100% of TV3 in Ireland and 9.9% of ITV so things may change here in the future. |
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Apart from VM are losing customers...higher broadband speeds or not.
Sky withdrawing their basic channels from VM had minimal effect. I'm also not saying that when the 9 year contract comes up for re-newel then Sky will withdraw ANY channels; I'm merely pointing out that at the start of the 9 year contract negotiations VM had a bargaining tool; they had channels to sell. What do they have now? A reduced customer base! Not brilliant eh! Quote:
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Apologies I was referring to an article on here about how VM have lost customers as a % relative to last year not as a whole since 10 years ago...but still, not a great position.
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Virgin Media UK's deal for Sky is not up til 2019.
http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...ike-major.html Virgin did re sign that 9 year deal in 2014 this time just for 5 years so that Sky Sports 3 HD, Sky Sports 4 HD, Sky Sports 5 HD (from launch) and Sky Sports F1 HD, with Sky Sports News HD and Sky News HD all launch on Virgin Media UK. |
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Where did we see John C. Malone name before? |
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I'm surprised that they don't appear to be putting QVC Beauty HD and QVC+1 HD on at the same time; perhaps these are Freeview exclusives to drive up sales of Freeview HD boxes like Channel 4+1 HD etc?? |
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-Expedia, Inc. -Time Warner Inc. (1% through Liberty Capital and 2% through Liberty Interactive) -Viacom Inc. (1%) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Interactive |
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Sky Sports Mix, looks like a sky customer exclusive
In its latest attempt to get one over BT, Sky has announced Sky Sports Mix, a new channel that’ll be free for all of its TV customers across the UK and Ireland. It’s set to launch this summer, and will televise a variety of live sporting events, including both men’s and women’s football from home and abroad, as well as cricket and golf. But mainly football (hopefully). http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/03/new...otball-to-all/ |
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It is a Sky exclusive.
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I`m wondering though if much of it`s content will be mirrored on one of their other sports channels like sky sports 5 often has the same live football match on as on other sky sports channel? Still it`ll be good for non sky sports subscribers. Thought it might of been on virgin too though but I understand why it isn`t.
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Well, we don't know for sure until Virgin Media tell us what's going on (or if it doesn't arrive on the start date!).
However, I wouldn't get your hopes up... :no::no: |
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For example I switched to Sky TV from VM last year but then if I want BT Sports in HD then it's £23.99 per month. However if I take BT broadband I can get the same package for £9.00 (or less at the moment). Or if I take VM XL TV I get it free! I don't believe that's unfair, it's simply competition and you have the option to pay whichever company you wish to provide the services you require. Sky are fighting back at BT and offering some free sports to their customers who don't subscribe to Sky Sports. If you want this new channel then Sky is the place to be (unless you have the Sky Sports package on another provider). You have the option to pay whomever you wish for your pay TV package so use your consumer power and choose the best one for you. That will then be fair! |
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I used to watch how Sky was developing its product with keen interest, figuring that if it moved ahead of cable, I would happily switch to Sky. But now, I am disinclined to make such a step because I am so annoyed at the disdain they show for their customers. It's not only their non satellite subscribers, either. They make it as awkward as they possibly can for people to cancel their Sky subscriptions, for example. Sky think they are being clever, but I reckon they are shooting themselves in the foot. They could attract so many more customers and make more money still if they treated us all with respect. Even if I had a bargepole, I wouldn't touch Sky with it if I had the choice at the moment. |
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I agree with you on this, it doesn't matter where there customers come from we should all be treated equal
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Sky isn't denying VM any content the content is all available through a Sky Sports subscription. On Sky it's making certain sporting events free for it's entire customer base as I say a sound business move and probably one they'll use to push hefty price increases through this June.
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I have heard stories about customers wanting to leave sky but unable to due to sky being persisant and even discounts require what I consider private information
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You are free to leave at anytime from any company once you fulfill your contract no-one is preventing anyone from leaving, all SKY and VM are doing is trying to retain customers and throwing in sweetners such as discounts. |
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Yes these tactics are not surprising in my book and are quite common in this industry.
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If IPTV really takes off, as is predicted by many, we may well see this happen... |
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I read the full transcript; almost unbelievable. |
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I must have been lucky I've always found Sky customer services excellent likewise I've had no issues with cancelling the service over the years.
The worst customer services I've ever dealt with bar none are BT. |
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Yes l remember BT many many moons ago and its seems they have never learnt their lessons.
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I had already phoned Virgin got my parents a deal before canceling the sky. I was on for almost 2 hours while the arrogant douche on the other end slagged off virgin media and would not take no for an answer. In the 2 hours i said i wanted to cancel over 30 times. I have never had anything but a professional reply from Virgin when changing or canceling services |
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People will always have differing views and experiences on customer service , look at the Ofcom complaints figures to get the average. I can only give my experience with Sky and they have always been helpful and on numerous occasions given me follow up phone calls. |
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Firstly I was told if I went to Sky I would only get 2mb broadband as that's all Sky offer, then I was told it's not even sky's service its renamed BT adsl. Then I was told I would lose my picture from Sky TV at least once a month due to weather an potentially every time it rained. I was told if I had a line fault BT would charge me over £100 just to come an look at the fault and even more f to required fixing. Then I thought I had disconnected and a week later a new contract dropped through my letter box. Then on ringing up to cancel for the 2nd time (after a previous 50 minute phone call) whilst being transferred for some reason the line got dropped. Anyway after a total of 3 phone calls and nearly 3 hours on the phone............ I went with sky on their LLU ADSL 2 at 19mb then their fibre service and and connected @80mb and I think the picture has dropped once in 3 years. An as for the £100 call out fee, I've never had a single issue with my line so never needed a call out. But it's untrue anyway, |
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Can anybody here receive 'That's Oxford'? Rumours are going round that they have today gone off air. |
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We have complained to the relevant bodies and emailed BBC watchdog, but nothing back yet. EDIT I also know of a very recent case where a Virginmedia doorstep thug advised someone to use a different name! I have advised they ring the sales guy and record the meeting. |
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I know of a man well into his 80's, he didn't even have a computer, yet a salesman had persuaded/pressured him into taking a very high speed broadband service. He went to his neighbour for help as he didn't understand what was going on. The lady rang VM to explain/complain/cancel. They initially tried to fob her off with the "we can't talk to you as it's not your account", "data protection" blah blah. She persisted and eventually got it cancelled. Does anybody here live in Oxford? I'm keen to know if That's Oxford is still off air on Freeview and/or VM (if they carry it). |
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Is this thread still called 'Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV' or have I somehow entered a parallel universe?
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Exactly, we are now on about "doorstep" thugs................:rolleyes: |
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BBC Three TV Channel will close on March 31st - Info from Virgin Media Forum.
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The only thing coming soon seems to be more price rises...
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Personally I feel with all the channels people are asking for, I don't think QVC extra type channels are not a priority. They are focusing on even faster broadband, aging TiVo, no real new channels to shout home about, if the only thing coming soon is even faster broadband and QVC God help us
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Apologies if this has been mentioned, but CBBC and CBeebies Picks are available On Demand for TV XL customers with TiVo
http://www.virginmediapresents.com/#...cpicks_issue12 |
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New ITV HD Channels coming soon to Virgin Media UK.
http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...g-soon-to.html ---------- Post added at 17:16 ---------- Previous post was at 16:40 ---------- MB Views: Where will the Sky Sports Mix EPG Slot comes from? Here's our views. http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...e-for-sky.html |
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Sky Sports Mix will be available in HD for Sky
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So if Sky Sports Mix is set to have an HD Channel on Sky we now feel that Sky Sports F1 and Sky Sports F1 HD will close on all networks for Sky to reuse their EPG Slots on Sky for Sky Sports Mix and Sky Sports Mix HD. F1 Motor Racing will then move to other Sky Sports Channels. We saw listing this past weekend for F1 Motor Racing Live on BOTH Sky Sports 1 and Sky Sports F1. |
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I can now see a problem arising from this.
Sky, could move some big games from the PL to Sky Sports Mix. Therefore, those wanting to watch a big game. Can't And VM now block any streaming of live games. Why doesn't VM and Sky, just sit round a table and thrash this out. But, at the end of the day ITS US THAT END UP PAYING FOR IT. |
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Not sure if Sky wants to talk really, they want to promote their own platform which is understandable but frustrating at times. |
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The interesting question would be will it be on nowtv because that would be a game changer; with the envisaged increase in prices, there is not a lot of difference between skysports via VM, sky or nowtv |
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They've taken the lead from BT Sports Showcase but all signs suggest SKY intend to run SKY Sports Mix as a proper channel fulltime channel. BT Sports Showcase is pretty much an infomercial channel which shows around 4 hours of live action per week, when European football is played. There's been weeks when there's been nothing more on there than their looped promos. |
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So we don't know if "Sky TV homes" includes Now TV as well. Certainly, Sky Sports News HQ is only available to Now TV subscribers with a sports pass, not with just an entertainment pass. |
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