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passingbat 19-02-2015 13:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760242)
Indeed. Virgin Media TiVo hardware was designed from scratch with three tuners, but as the TiVo Premier had two TiVo had to rewrite the software to support it http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1092...turns-on-tuner

So it turned out to be good practice for the Tivo software developers before having to rewrite it for six tuners! :D

OLD BOY 19-02-2015 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35760254)
So it turned out to be good practice for the Tivo software developers before having to rewrite it for six tuners! :D

We won't need those six tuners for video streaming in the new world! :D:D:D;)

Ultimate.Conj 19-02-2015 14:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760266)
We won't need those six tuners for video streaming in the new world! :D:D:D;)

With the current state of the UK broadband, is it fair to assume we might actually need those 6 tuners :D

Video streaming will eventually come to the mainstream, but our internet infrastructure at the moment couldnt support it throughout the whole of the country.

ase001 19-02-2015 14:08

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You need to move away from the concept of tuners, any new box will have a single modem. The number of streams (channels in the old world) will be dependent on the bandwidth. In most cases recordings will be cloud based, not that it stores a fresh copy of the program! It will just set a record in a database that this registered user has requested on demand access to that program for 90days.

So any new Tivo box or whatever it maybe will resemble the Amazon Fire TV set top box, it maybe even an app on your smart TV!

These simple set top boxes probably cost £20-£30 each to buy in 10s of thousands, where as the Tivo boxes are north of £100 each. The value will be in the functionality of the software, not the features of the hardware.

VM are going to save millions in hardware costs, at £20-£30 each VM would just put one in the post if you current one failed. Fewer customer visits, no repairs equals less staff, reduced costs.

Media Boy UK 19-02-2015 14:30

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February List update - February 19th update.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV.

NOTE: I DO NOT WORK FOR VIRGIN MEDIA SO ALL THE INFORMATION ON THIS LIST IS STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Virgin Media News and links.
Media Boy = Local TV news, other Media news/Things.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== Freeviews on Virgin Media ===
???. ??th. (Put channels names here) is having an freeview to all M, M+ and L packages on Virgin Channels (Put channels numbers here) right now untill ???. ??th 2015.

=== Soon ===
-That's Solent will soon launch in Southampton and surrounding areas.


=== February ===
28th. Local TV Broadcaster Big Centre TV may launch on Virgin Channel 159 in some Birmingham areas from today.

=== March ===
2nd. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies SciFi as Sky Movies Monsters on Virgin Channel 411.
2nd. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies SciFi HD as Sky Movies Monsters HD on Virgin Channel 441.
31st. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Oscars back to Sky Movies Greats on Virgin Channel 404.
31st. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Monsters back to Sky Movies SciFi on Virgin Channel 411.
31st. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Oscars HD back to Sky Movies Greats HD on Virgin Channel 434.
31st. Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Monsters HD back to Sky Movies SciFi HD on Virgin Channel 441.
31st. Sky Sports to rebrand Sky Sports World Cup back to Sky Sports 2 on Virgin Channel 503.
31st. Sky Sports to rebrand Sky Sports World Cup HD back to Sky Sports 2 HD on Virgin Channel 513.

=== April ===
No News...

=== May ===
No News...

=== June ===
No News...

=== July ===
No News...

=== August ===
No News...

=== Autumn ===
-The BBC may close BBC Three on Virgin Media subject to approved by the BBC Trust.
-The BBC may close BBC Three HD on Virgin Media subject to approved by the BBC Trust.
-The BBC may launch BBC One +1 as an 24 hour channel on Virgin Media subject to approved by the BBC Trust.
-The BBC may add two extra hours per day to CBBC and CBBC HD on Virgin Media subject to approved by the BBC Trust.

=== September ===
No News...

=== October ===
No News...

=== November ===
No News...

=== December ===
No News...

=== By 2016 ===
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc1 as Sky Movies Aliens on Virgin Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Sky Movies Aliens as Sky Movies tbc1 on Virgin Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc1 HD as Sky Movies Aliens HD on Virgin Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Aliens HD as Sky Movies tbc1 HD on Virgin Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc2 as Sky Movies Gangsters on Virgin Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Gangsters as Sky Movies tbc2 on Virgin Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies tbc2 HD as Sky Movies Gangsters HD on Virgin Channel 4??.
-Sky Movies to rebrand Sky Movies Gangsters HD as Sky Movies tbc2 HD on Virgin Channel 4??.

=== January 2016 ===
No News...

=== February 2016 ===
No News...

=== March 2016 ===
No News...

=== April 2016 ===
No News...

=== May 2016 ===
No News...

=== June 2016 ===
No News...

=== July 2016 ===
No News...

=== August 2016 ===
No News...

=== September 2016 ===
No News...

=== October 2016 ===
No News...

=== November 2016 ===
No News...

=== December 2016 ===
No News...

=== Local TV on Virgin Media ===
-All the following Local TV broadcasters may launch by 2016 on Virgin Channel 159:

-YourTV Manchester
-YourTV Blackpool & Preston
-Cambridge Presents
-That’s Basingstoke
-That’s Surrey
-That’s Reading
-That’s Salisbury
-That's Oxford


=== Unknown dates ===
-The BBC hope to launch English regional variants of its existing BBC One HD service as well as Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland editions of BBC Two HD - but still need to be approved by the BBC Trust.

=== Channels ONLY in UPC Ireland areas ===
List last updated on January 5th 2015.

ONLY TV CHANNELS THAT ONLY BROADCAST IN THE UK ON OTHER NETWORKS WILL APPEAR ON THIS PART OF THE LIST.

ALSO THE FOLLOWING LIST OF CHANNELS IS CURRENTLY BROADCASTING ON UPC IRELAND BUT NOT ON VIRGIN MEDIA:


Documentaries:
-History HD
-Nat Geo Wild HD
-CI HD

Lifestyle:
-Fashion TV

Music:
-MTV Classic

Kids:
-Disney Channel HD

Specialist:
-EWTN

Radio:
-UCB Ireland

Channels only in UPC Ireland areas.

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
Full list now at: http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/p...adcasters.html

This part of list has now moved to my blog - follow link.

=== What is Media Boy on about??? ===
Here is what I mean when I post the following on Cable Forum:

Virgin Insiders - means just that.
'Do Not Post' order - means an Virgin insider has given me some info on things that set to happen but has told me not to reveal it right now.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
Liberty Global - http://www.lgi.com/
Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin TV - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/
Follow Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/


=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated January 5th 2015.

Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: Media Boy HQ gets all info from Virgin Media viewers, some Virgin Media workers (I called them Virgin Insiders or Virgin Sources) and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WHY HAVE YOU ADDED 'ONLY IN UPC IRELAND AREAS' WHEN THIS THREAD IS FOR VIRGIN MEDIA?
A: Virgin Media and UPC Ireland are now both own by Liberty Global.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''DISNEY CHANNEL HD'' FOR?
A: Disney Channel HD is only broadcasting in UPC Ireland areas right now.

Q: WHY HAVE YOU REMOVED 'ONLY IN SMALLWORLD AREAS' FROM YOUR LIST FOR?
A: Virgin Media have now axe the Smallworld brand. Viewers in the old Smallworld areas will now get the Virgin Media Channel lineup..

==== See you later ===
List last updated on February 19th 2015.

Next update: TBC.

A) If Virgin Media are set to launch more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin TV areas.
B) If Virgin Media are set to move more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) about in Virgin TV areas.
C) If Virgin Media are set to close or repackage more then TWO channels (TV or Radio) in Virgin TV areas.

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

BenMcr 19-02-2015 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ase001 (Post 35760276)
You need to move away from the concept of tuners, any new box will have a single modem. The number of streams (channels in the old world) will be dependent on the bandwidth. In most cases recordings will be cloud based, not that it stores a fresh copy of the program! It will just set a record in a database that this registered user has requested on demand access to that program for 90days.

So any new Tivo box or whatever it maybe will resemble the Amazon Fire TV set top box, it maybe even an app on your smart TV!

These simple set top boxes probably cost £20-£30 each to buy in 10s of thousands, where as the Tivo boxes are north of £100 each. The value will be in the functionality of the software, not the features of the hardware.

VM are going to save millions in hardware costs, at £20-£30 each VM would just put one in the post if you current one failed. Fewer customer visits, no repairs equals less staff, reduced costs.

I can't see that happening in the short or medium term - Virgin Media have hardware to broadcast dedicated linear TV streams that don't impact broadband capacity, and has a guaranteed QoS.

Ultimate.Conj 19-02-2015 14:36

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ase001 (Post 35760276)
You need to move away from the concept of tuners, any new box will have a single modem. The number of streams (channels in the old world) will be dependent on the bandwidth. In most cases recordings will be cloud based, not that it stores a fresh copy of the program! It will just set a record in a database that this registered user has requested on demand access to that program for 90days.

So any new Tivo box or whatever it maybe will resemble the Amazon Fire TV set top box, it maybe even an app on your smart TV!

These simple set top boxes probably cost £20-£30 each to buy in 10s of thousands, where as the Tivo boxes are north of £100 each. The value will be in the functionality of the software, not the features of the hardware.

VM are going to save millions in hardware costs, at £20-£30 each VM would just put one in the post if you current one failed. Fewer customer visits, no repairs equals less staff, reduced costs.

Will this cloud-based concept need a stable, quick internet speed?
Not everyone has access to this at the moment. Would this also put internet prices up as everyone will be demanding more bandwidth (more channels)?

Sorry for the questions, but Its a good discussion and I like the way that VM would take it based on what you have said in your post.

---------- Post added at 14:36 ---------- Previous post was at 14:34 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760284)
I can't see that happening in the short or medium term - Virgin Media have hardware to broadcast dedicated linear TV streams that don't impact broadband capacity, and has a guaranteed QoS.

Ben, do you know if VM have any plans with the TiVo at the moment?

Media Boy UK 19-02-2015 14:45

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Local TV: New look for local TV in Edinburgh and Glasgow from March 2nd.

STV Glasgow and STV Edinburgh will be on air from the earlier time of 7am from Monday March 2. They will feature hourly week day news bulletins from midday, as well as 30-minute news programmes at 6pm, 8pm and 10pm bringing viewers across central Scotland all the latest updates.

http://news.stv.tv/west-central/3109...mission-hours/

ase001 19-02-2015 14:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760284)
I can't see that happening in the short or medium term - Virgin Media have hardware to broadcast dedicated linear TV streams that don't impact broadband capacity, and has a guaranteed QoS.

It all comes down the same cable or fiber, less linear streams frees up bandwidth thus reducing cost! QoS can be setup on any sort of data link, Tiscali were doing it years ago with there IPTV set top box. That worked well down a 2.5Mbit link, setting QoS on 1Mbit of that for TV streaming!

denphone 19-02-2015 14:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760266)
We won't need those six tuners for video streaming in the new world! :D:D:D;)

Oh yes we do in our household where the female is in charge and l have to say yes dear on a regular basis.;):D

---------- Post added at 14:53 ---------- Previous post was at 14:52 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760285)
Will this cloud-based concept need a stable, quick internet speed?
Not everyone has access to this at the moment. Would this also put internet prices up as everyone will be demanding more bandwidth (more channels)?

Sorry for the questions, but Its a good discussion and I like the way that VM would take it based on what you have said in your post.

---------- Post added at 14:36 ---------- Previous post was at 14:34 ----------



Ben, do you know if VM have any plans with the TiVo at the moment?

Come on UC he is not going to answer that as that's more then his jobs worth.;):D

ase001 19-02-2015 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760285)
Will this cloud-based concept need a stable, quick internet speed?
Not everyone has access to this at the moment. Would this also put internet prices up as everyone will be demanding more bandwidth (more channels)?

You need about 1Mbits for SD channels and 2Mbits for HD channels (assuming MP4 or equivalent is used?), the beauty of IPTV is that it is on demand channel streaming. It only streams the channel you request to watch, a bit like VOD.

muppetman11 19-02-2015 15:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760285)
Will this cloud-based concept need a stable, quick internet speed?
Not everyone has access to this at the moment. Would this also put internet prices up as everyone will be demanding more bandwidth (more channels)?

Sorry for the questions, but Its a good discussion and I like the way that VM would take it based on what you have said in your post.

Comcast's DVR in the USA currently records a show to the local HDD like most PVR's but also makes the show available in the cloud so recordings can be accessed on mobile devices , tablets , laptops etc.

If everything was solely recorded in the cloud you would indeed need a reliable broadband connection.

Ultimate.Conj 19-02-2015 15:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35760295)
Oh yes we do in our household where the female is in charge and l have to say yes dear on a regular basis.;):D

---------- Post added at 14:53 ---------- Previous post was at 14:52 ----------



Come on UC he is not going to answer that as that's more then his jobs worth.;):D

It was only after a posted did I think "That was a dumb question to ask" hahahaha

BenMcr 19-02-2015 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ase001 (Post 35760300)
You need about 1Mbits for SD channels and 2Mbits for HD channels (assuming MP4 or equivalent is used?), the beauty of IPTV is that it is on demand channel streaming. It only streams the channel you request to watch, a bit like VOD.

Netflix actually suggests 5Mbit for it's HD streams https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306 (and 25Mbit for Ultra HD!)

And remember that's per stream per box, whereas linear TV is fixed.

Ultimate.Conj 19-02-2015 15:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760308)
Netflix actually suggests 5Mbit for it's HD streams https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306 (and 25Mbit for Ultra HD!)

And remember that's per stream per box, whereas linear TV is fixed.

Will Sky/VM/Talk Talk/BT want us to move away from linear TV and move to a cloud-based on-demand service?

Isn't there more revenue to be earned through advertising on linear TV at the moment? Or would this advertising be pushed across to on-demand programmes too?

I guess this isnt really for Coming soon to VM TV, but it is kinda related :angel:

4K TiVO anyone? lol

muppetman11 19-02-2015 15:41

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On Demand is already delivered from the cloud , this is moving your recorded shows into the cloud making them accessible from anywhere on a multitude of devices , it also enables cloud bookmarking start a show whilst out on the ipad and continue where you left off on the STB.

Media Boy UK 19-02-2015 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35760318)
On Demand is already delivered from the cloud , this is moving your recorded shows into the cloud making them accessible from anywhere on a multitude of devices , it also enables cloud bookmarking start a show whilst out on the ipad and continue where you left off on the STB.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...aunch-new.html

---------- Post added at 15:52 ---------- Previous post was at 15:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760312)
...I guess this isnt really for Coming soon to VM TV, but it is kinda related :angel:....


It all add up to where you will go in December (If you post in all of this years treads.)

Media Boy HQ is delighted to announce that Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 2 will launch on April 6th only on Cable Forum.

passingbat 19-02-2015 16:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760308)
Netflix actually suggests 5Mbit for it's HD streams .

And there top HD stream (which they used to refer to as Super HD) is 5800kbps.

Mad Max 19-02-2015 17:12

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Quote:

It all add up to where you will go in December (If you post in all of this years treads.)

Will we change the name to the Michelin tread then? :D

DaMac 19-02-2015 18:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760308)
(and 25Mbit for Ultra HD!).

which is quite efficient seeing as Astras's 4k test channel on 19.2 & 28.2 is broadcasting at 29Mbit currently without surround sound, it does look awesome though, Netflix 4k is also awesome with the right source. (The blacklist was brilliant).

spiderplant 19-02-2015 18:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35760227)
Well, it happened with the current VM Tivo, which was based on the Tivo Premier.

The software was, but not the hardware. If you were to take the lid off a Premiere, a VM Cisco TiVo and a VM Samsung TiVo, you'd find they are all very different inside.

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35760254)
So it turned out to be good practice for the Tivo software developers before having to rewrite it for six tuners! :D

Sensibly, when developing for VM, they didn't make it support three. They made it support any number. So 4, 6 or anything else then became possible without any extra software development.

Media Boy UK 19-02-2015 18:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35760350)
Will we change the name to the Michelin tread then? :D

Sorry Mad Mix I did mean to say "threads" but I forgot to put in an "H".

passingbat 19-02-2015 19:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35760365)
The software was, .

Which is really the key bit.

If the Premier does get an Amazon Prime app, which is supposedly imminent according to the Tivo community forums, then it does open the door, from a technical perspective, for a potential VM/Amazon deal.

Quote:

Sensibly, when developing for VM, they didn't make it support three. They made it support any number. So 4, 6 or anything else then became possible without any extra software development.
And, if VM were to want a box with more tuners or larger HDD, it is possible.

RichardCoulter 20-02-2015 11:36

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Premier Sports ceased to be BARB reported from 15 February 2015.

They obviously aren't making enough from advertising to make it worth paying the fee.

OLD BOY 20-02-2015 12:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2015) Vol. 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ase001 (Post 35760276)
You need to move away from the concept of tuners, any new box will have a single modem. The number of streams (channels in the old world) will be dependent on the bandwidth. In most cases recordings will be cloud based, not that it stores a fresh copy of the program! It will just set a record in a database that this registered user has requested on demand access to that program for 90days.

So any new Tivo box or whatever it maybe will resemble the Amazon Fire TV set top box, it maybe even an app on your smart TV!

These simple set top boxes probably cost £20-£30 each to buy in 10s of thousands, where as the Tivo boxes are north of £100 each. The value will be in the functionality of the software, not the features of the hardware.

VM are going to save millions in hardware costs, at £20-£30 each VM would just put one in the post if you current one failed. Fewer customer visits, no repairs equals less staff, reduced costs.

I sincerely hope on demand access will be considerably longer than 90 days!

My recordings go back over a year and I would want to be able to access anything I flagged up on the cloud for a similar period.

Is 90 days some sort of industry standard or did you make that up as an example?

muppetman11 20-02-2015 12:55

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I believe in the USA cloud recordings with Comcast stay in the cloud for a year.

OLD BOY 20-02-2015 13:17

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I could just about cope with that!

ase001 20-02-2015 14:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760491)
Is 90 days some sort of industry standard or did you make that up as an example?

Just an example, but it wouldn't surprise me if it is tiered depending on the channel and package you pay for.

vincerooney 20-02-2015 19:20

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greetings friends. just had an email about sky movies free for march if i click a button in an email...anyone else had it.

denphone 20-02-2015 19:25

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No Vince.

vincerooney 20-02-2015 19:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35760553)
No Vince.

Apparently some people on sky sports only package from what i'm gathering...

Don't miss your chance to get a Sky Movies
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Hit the button now.
You really don't want to miss out on your Sky Movies free trial. It's exclusively for you. Just hit the button before 25th February and you'll get all of this from 1st to 31st March:



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All 11 Sky Movies channels, including the exclusive Sky Movies Disney channel



All movies are available to watch at home or on the go using the Sky Movies website on your laptop, or you can download the app to watch on your compatible phone or tablet



Up to 5 premieres a week and more of the year's biggest box office hits 12 months before online subscription services*



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Mad Max 20-02-2015 20:38

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Sky movies is prettty crap imo.

vincerooney 20-02-2015 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35760559)
Sky movies is prettty crap imo.

True max I just wondered if anyone else had the offer .. Slow day here

telegramsam 20-02-2015 21:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760552)
greetings friends. just had an email about sky movies free for march if i click a button in an email...anyone else had it.

Yes I`ve had the same email offer. I wont be taking up the offer as Sky movies is crap,and also you have to remember to phone and cancel before the end of the month or you start being charged for it.:td:

OLD BOY 21-02-2015 00:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760552)
greetings friends. just had an email about sky movies free for march if i click a button in an email...anyone else had it.

You are special, Vince. Make the most of it!

I would watch the content while you can, if I were you!

DaMac 21-02-2015 07:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35760559)
Sky movies is prettty crap imo.

It's so much more worse than Tru Movies, Movies for Men and TCM.

Superblade7 21-02-2015 07:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760552)
greetings friends. just had an email about sky movies free for march if i click a button in an email...anyone else had it.

Take the offer vince, Sky Movies is good to have for a month every now and again and cram in all the films you want to see. Obviously even better if that month is free.

It does get very repetitive if you have Sky Movies all the time though so take other people's points about it being crap in that sense.

denphone 21-02-2015 07:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35760596)
It's so much more worse than Tru Movies, Movies for Men and TCM.

That's a bold statement Sir.

Perfect Choice 21-02-2015 09:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760491)
I sincerely hope on demand access will be considerably longer than 90 days!

My recordings go back over a year and I would want to be able to access anything I flagged up on the cloud for a similar period.

Is 90 days some sort of industry standard or did you make that up as an example?

Agreed, restricting to 90 days would actually be crazy and a reduction in service. Like you I keep recordings much longer than that and typically watch a whole series well after it was originally shown.

If VM ONLY had a cloud base option for storing recordings and limiting them to 90 days availability it would be exit time for me. In fact more I think about this, it would be commercial suicide for VM IMHO:shocked: Cloud based storage is normally limited by capacity not time anyway so that is the route I expect VM to go down. It may be a case of 500MB cloud storage free then pay for uplifts in 500MB increments, but what you store and how long is up to you.

vincerooney 21-02-2015 11:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Superblade7 (Post 35760597)
Take the offer vince, Sky Movies is good to have for a month every now and again and cram in all the films you want to see. Obviously even better if that month is free.

It does get very repetitive if you have Sky Movies all the time though so take other people's points about it being crap in that sense.

i have! hitting the big red button in the email was what enticed me. apparently i can cancel it online before the month ends as well by following some link in the email. someone just remind me nearer april...

theone2k10 21-02-2015 12:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760616)
i have! hitting the big red button in the email was what enticed me. apparently i can cancel it online before the month ends as well by following some link in the email. someone just remind me nearer april...

You need to give a months notice i think mate.

johnathome 21-02-2015 12:47

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760556)



Even better, after your Sky Movies free trial, the fun won't end because you'll automatically receive Sky Movies for just £7 a month. But if you'd rather not, you can opt out at any time during your trial period and still enjoy the full 31-day movies trial. So don't hang around. Hit that big button now.

The £7 a month is pretty darn cheap, that's cheaper than NowTV. Or is that the standard price if you have Sports as well?

muppetman11 21-02-2015 12:48

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35760625)
The £7 a month is pretty darn cheap, that's cheaper than NowTV. Or is that the standard price if you have Sports as well?

That's if you have sport as well.

telegramsam 22-02-2015 21:09

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35760625)
The £7 a month is pretty darn cheap, that's cheaper than NowTV. Or is that the standard price if you have Sports as well?

7 quid is the usual price if you have sky sports. I`m not being tempted by the free month though as I never have enough time to watch films even if there`s a decent one to watch.

RichardCoulter 23-02-2015 10:35

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Further to my report that i'd heard that changes were afoot at Viacom:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201502223...#axzz3SYvkZAy0

Maybe we will see the missing Viacom channels from the MTV suite coming to VM as Viacom seek to negate declining audiences for their channels?

Which are we missing?

1andrew1 23-02-2015 10:59

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35760916)
Further to my report that i'd heard that changes were afoot at Viacom:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201502223...#axzz3SYvkZAy0

Maybe we will see the missing Viacom channels from the MTV suite coming to VM as Viacom seek to negate declining audiences for their channels?

Which are we missing?

Wonder which of the two categories the Channel 5 Group will fall into as in my mind it fits into both!

1. Music and Entertainment (MTV, MTV2, Logo, VH1, Comedy Central and Spike.)

2. Kids and Family Group (Nickelodeon Group , TV Land, CMT and CMT Pure Country).

Media Boy UK 23-02-2015 11:39

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Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to axe Picturebox from April.

Virgin Sources have told Media Boy HQ that Picturebox will be removed from Virgin Media on April 1st.

We are told this is due to its small customer base and to make room for more services in the future.

We have also seen info on an new channel testing on Virgin Media right now called "ARABIC HAFLA".

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 11:58

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35760924)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to axe Picturebox from April.

Virgin Sources have told Media Boy HQ that Picturebox will be removed from Virgin Media on April 1st.

We are told this is due to its small customer base and to make room for more services in the future.

We have also seen info on an new channel testing on Virgin Media right now called "ARABIC HAFLA".

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

I'm not surprised by this...The films that Picturebox wanted payment for, seemed to be older films that are already on Netflix if you wanted to watch them. Seems a good move.

Wonder what future services they are trying to make room for...

denphone 23-02-2015 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35760924)
Media Boy EXCLUSIVE: Virgin Media to axe Picturebox from April.

Virgin Sources have told Media Boy HQ that Picturebox will be removed from Virgin Media on April 1st.

We are told this is due to its small customer base and to make room for more services in the future.

We have also seen info on an new channel testing on Virgin Media right now called "ARABIC HAFLA".

©copyright 2015 Media Boy 2006 - 2015. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

Good riddance to rubbish l say.

OLD BOY 23-02-2015 12:19

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760930)
I'm not surprised by this...The films that Picturebox wanted payment for, seemed to be older films that are already on Netflix if you wanted to watch them. Seems a good move.

Wonder what future services they are trying to make room for...

Amazon Prime, hopefully!

Dave42 23-02-2015 12:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760937)
Amazon Prime, hopefully!

yes that would be great to have OB

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 12:27

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760937)
Amazon Prime, hopefully!

Are you thinking of just the App, or do you think VM would try to incorporate the whole subscription somehow?

OLD BOY 23-02-2015 13:11

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760941)
Are you thinking of just the App, or do you think VM would try to incorporate the whole subscription somehow?

I would like to think we would have the subscription service. Watching everything on pay per view could turn out rather expensive.

denphone 23-02-2015 13:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760937)
Amazon Prime, hopefully!

Yes that would be nice OB.

Media Boy UK 23-02-2015 13:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35760916)
Further to my report that i'd heard that changes were afoot at Viacom:

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201502223...#axzz3SYvkZAy0

Maybe we will see the missing Viacom channels from the MTV suite coming to VM as Viacom seek to negate declining audiences for their channels?

Which are we missing?

It just US Telly news.

From your link:

Quote:

BET CEO Deborah Lee, Bob Bakish of Viacom International Media and Brad Grey of Paramount Pictures will keep their roles.
Viacom channels in UK and Ireland are own by:

-Nickelodeon channels are own by Nickelodeon UK (Viacom International Media Networks Europe/British Sky Broadcasting).
-Comedy Central Channels are own by Paramount UK Partnership (Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting).
-Channel 5 and MTV are own by Viacom International Media Networks (Europe)

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Just an head up Media Boy HQ has seen big information from Virgin Sources but we need to put under DNP.

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 13:33

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35760957)
It just US Telly news.

From your link:



Viacom channels in UK and Ireland are own by:

-Nickelodeon channels are own by Nickelodeon UK (Viacom International Media Networks Europe/British Sky Broadcasting).
-Comedy Central Channels are own by Paramount UK Partnership (Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting).
-Channel 5 and MTV are own by Viacom International Media Networks (Europe)

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Just an head up Media Boy HQ has seen big information from Virgin Sources but we need to put under DNP.

"Big Information"...Would this fall into the "BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF" category of DNPs? :D

vincerooney 23-02-2015 13:48

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I've been thinking that the new owners of virgin media appear a lot more sh*t than the previous owners. No channel launches, big time rises to bills etc. so the new owners seem to be treating virgin media as a gravy train. Shame I thought we'd be getting more treats

BenMcr 23-02-2015 13:50

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760967)
No channel launches

Erm, so what are these then

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...-to-tv-service

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Virgin Media is adding ten more international channels to its TV service.

Mad Max 23-02-2015 13:59

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760969)


A load of more crap imo!

BenMcr 23-02-2015 14:01

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Whether you think it's 'crap' or not is a different thing.

The argument was that Virgin Media haven't launched new channels since LGI bought them, which is clearly wrong.

vincerooney 23-02-2015 14:06

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760969)

I don't speak these languages so as much as they're interesting I don't understand what they are saying. So the 100 quid + bills don't justify a Spanish speaking channel. Erm so that

denphone 23-02-2015 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35760957)
It just US Telly news.

From your link:



Viacom channels in UK and Ireland are own by:

-Nickelodeon channels are own by Nickelodeon UK (Viacom International Media Networks Europe/British Sky Broadcasting).
-Comedy Central Channels are own by Paramount UK Partnership (Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting).
-Channel 5 and MTV are own by Viacom International Media Networks (Europe)

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Just an head up Media Boy HQ has seen big information from Virgin Sources but we need to put under DNP.

;)

BenMcr 23-02-2015 14:12

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760974)
I don't speak these languages so as much as they're interesting I don't understand what they are saying. So the 100 quid + bills don't justify a Spanish speaking channel. Erm so that

Except your 100+ bills aren't just for those.

To be honest, you can't have a TV base of millions of customers and then launch a channel everyone likes.

BT Sport launched after the LGI takeover completed however no everyone likes that, so wouldn't think that 'justifies' anything in regards to their costs.

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 14:16

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760977)
Except your 100+ bills aren't just for those.

To be honest, you can't have a TV base of millions of customers and then launch a channel everyone likes.

BT Sport launched after the LGI takeover completed however no everyone likes that, so wouldn't think that 'justifies' anything in regards to their costs.

Isn't this the reason for Market Research...so TV companies can justify a launch of a TV Channel if it is proven that the majority of people would want/pay for it.

denphone 23-02-2015 14:16

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What we want to know is BT Sport going to be staying in the XL pack because if it ain't then one suspects you will have to have something up your sleeve to replace it.:)

Mad Max 23-02-2015 14:20

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760979)
Isn't this the reason for Market Research...so TV companies can justify a launch of a TV Channel if it is proven that the majority of people would want/pay for it.


:clap::clap::clap:

BenMcr 23-02-2015 14:21

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760979)
Isn't this the reason for Market Research...so TV companies can justify a launch of a TV Channel if it is proven that the majority of people would want/pay for it.

Right, but 'a majority' isn't everyone.

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 14:38

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760982)
A majority isn't everyone.

I know...but I agreed with you, that you couldn't please everyone with certain channel launches. I just tried to back it up by saying that Market Research was a tool for the companies to explain this to their customers

vincerooney 23-02-2015 14:59

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35760977)
Except your 100+ bills aren't just for those.

To be honest, you can't have a TV base of millions of customers and then launch a channel everyone likes.

BT Sport launched after the LGI takeover completed however no everyone likes that, so wouldn't think that 'justifies' anything in regards to their costs.

Ben i know you're trying to help but we've had two years of price increases above inflation.

2014 had basically no new channel launches
2015 so far has nothing new launching

We've got another ABOVE inflation price increase coming. BT sport is coming out of the XL package in 18 months lets be brutally honest.

I'm 29 years old so i'll take the "erm what about these" as a reasonable comment as i know what you're referring to. my mum as a 60 year old woman wouldnt nor would the majority of virgin media customers know what on earth youre talking about (most dont have tivo/or know about the apps folder)

1) pay extra money for spanish and channels from portugal
2) accept above inflation price increases without actual improvements

Fact is the price i was paying in 2013 was fair. Since then i've had sod all except for a few HD channels but had 4 price increases. So yeah a virgin media response of

"erm what about these"

then referring to some spanish channels in an odd little app tucked away on tivo isnt helpful. in fact its shocking that its being used as an excuse ?!??

BenMcr 23-02-2015 15:07

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760989)
Ben i know you're trying to help but we've had two years of price increases above inflation.

2014 had basically no new channel launches

2014 was mainly about the Sky agreement and increasing parity between TV Anywhere and the TV packs

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...tion-agreement

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...5-new-channels

http://about.virginmedia.com/press-r...x-new-channels

Quote:

2015 so far has nothing new launching
There are still 45 weeks left in this year.

Quote:

We've got another ABOVE inflation price increase coming.
Where?

Quote:

nor would the majority of virgin media customers know what on earth youre talking about (most dont have tivo/or know about the apps folder)
The majority of Virgin Media's TV customers do have TiVo.

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Fact is the price i was paying in 2013 was fair. Since then i've had sod all except for a few HD channels but had 4 price increases.
There have been two price main price increases under Virgin Media's control since 2013 - one in Feb 2014 and one this month.

theone2k10 23-02-2015 15:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760937)
Amazon Prime, hopefully!

If it's what my dnp order is it isn't prime.

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 15:24

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35760992)
If it's what my dnp order is it isn't prime.

Does your DNP fall into "BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF" too? :D

OLD BOY 23-02-2015 16:02

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35760992)
If it's what my dnp order is it isn't prime.

Well that doesn't really surprise me because as far as I know, Amazon has not yet responded positively to VM's approach for a presence on their platform.

There's only one channel that would 'blow my socks off'! And you know what that is :D

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760979)
Isn't this the reason for Market Research...so TV companies can justify a launch of a TV Channel if it is proven that the majority of people would want/pay for it.

I hope they do not go by what the 'majority' wants! If that were the case, we would get very few intellectual type channels and more reality channels.

We need to have the maximum choice of content; that is what is important to me. Whether delivered by broadcast channels, VOD or streaming, I really don't care.

theone2k10 23-02-2015 16:17

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35760994)
Does your DNP fall into "BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF" too? :D

I'd say satisfying.

OLD BOY 23-02-2015 16:25

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I've decided that if Amazon Prime Instant Video doesn't come to my TIVO box by the end of the year, I'm getting an Amazon Fire TV box. I'll probably ditch my Sky Sports subscription to pay for the monthly subscription!

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 16:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35760999)
Well that doesn't really surprise me because as far as I know, Amazon has not yet responded positively to VM's approach for a presence on their platform.

There's only one channel that would 'blow my socks off'! And you know what that is :D

---------- Post added at 16:02 ---------- Previous post was at 16:00 ----------

I hope they do not go by what the 'majority' wants! If that were the case, we would get very few intellectual type channels and more reality channels.

We need to have the maximum choice of content; that is what is important to me. Whether delivered by broadcast channels, VOD or streaming, I really don't care.

All of the content that you/we/the customers want, all comes from demand. VM won't deliver unless there is demand for certain content or a way of delivering that content. They will use Market Research as their tool of finding this out.

If they find only 10% of customers want to use VOD or Picturebox then ultimately it's not worth it. Therefore going with the majority they can aim to please the maximum number of customers as possible...and those that arent satisfied...well, we will have Market Research thrown back in our faces haha

theone2k10 23-02-2015 16:35

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35761005)
I've decided that if Amazon Prime Instant Video doesn't come to my TIVO box by the end of the year, I'm getting an Amazon Fire TV box. I'll probably ditch my Sky Sports subscription to pay for the monthly subscription!

Get one anyway mate trust me you'll love it they're £64 at mo on amazon and in Argos.

OLD BOY 23-02-2015 16:41

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Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35761008)
All of the content that you/we/the customers want, all comes from demand. VM won't deliver unless there is demand for certain content or a way of delivering that content. They will use Market Research as their tool of finding this out.

If they find only 10% of customers want to use VOD or Picturebox then ultimately it's not worth it. Therefore going with the majority they can aim to please the maximum number of customers as possible...and those that arent satisfied...well, we will have Market Research thrown back in our faces haha

Virgin Media have already put out feelers with Amazon to carry Prime; it's not that they aren't interested! In the end, it's down to Amazon whether we get carriage on TIVO.

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35761009)
Get one anyway mate trust me you'll love it they're £64 at mo on amazon and in Argos.

Yes, you're right, I've been reading about it and I like what I have read. I will put it on my Christmas list!

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 16:46

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35761010)
Virgin Media have already put out feelers with Amazon to carry Prime; it's not that they aren't interested! In the end, it's down to Amazon whether we get carriage on TIVO.[COLOR="Silver"]

Yeah you're right...Also at the end of the day, we could have the whole customer base wanting a certain aspect to come to VM, but if they arent willing to play ball and pay the money then we won't get it anyway.

I'd be interested in Prime if it was part of the XL TV Package, not sure I would subscribe if VM just secured the App.

muppetman11 23-02-2015 16:46

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I prefer the ease of my smart TV has all the apps without the extra wiring and much faster to access apps over a STB failing that I'd go with fire TV or one of the other good streaming devices.

Ultimate.Conj 23-02-2015 16:50

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761013)
I prefer the ease of my smart TV has all the apps without the extra wiring and much faster to access apps over a STB failing that I'd go with fire TV or one of the other good streaming devices.

A lot of people have consoles hooked up to their tvs which also carry the apps, specially Netflix and Prime.

But I get your point of them being all in one location specially for ease of use.

theone2k10 23-02-2015 17:05

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761013)
I prefer the ease of my smart TV has all the apps without the extra wiring and much faster to access apps over a STB failing that I'd go with fire TV or one of the other good streaming devices.

The nexus tv player which is Googles own tv is coming out in March in uk too i believe.
This is something i'm monitoring as has very very good reviews in the states.

passingbat 23-02-2015 17:27

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761013)
I prefer the ease of my smart TV has .

Some of us only have dumb TVs :D

BenMcr 23-02-2015 17:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761013)
I prefer the ease of my smart TV

Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35761018)
Some of us only have dumb TVs :D

To be honest most Smart TVs will become dumb eventually - as the TV manufacturers move on to the 'next' platform

At least with TiVo (and other add on boxes) it's easier to update them to ensure you still have access to the apps

muppetman11 23-02-2015 17:38

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35761018)
Some of us only have dumb TVs :D

Yes :D reading that back I think I'm the dumb one. :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35761019)
To be honest most Smart TVs will become dumb eventually - as the TV manufacturers move on to the 'next' platform

At least with TiVo (and other add on boxes) it's easier to update them to ensure you still have access to the apps

We have an older Samsung in a bedroom what still seems to get app updates however I take your point , for me personally though the STB's are just too slow when using streaming services , my YV box whilst acceptable is considerably slower to load and navigate. At the end of the day all devices will become obsolete at some point however I agree with a streaming box your losing far less than a TV.

1andrew1 23-02-2015 18:13

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35760967)
I've been thinking that the new owners of virgin media appear a lot more sh*t than the previous owners. No channel launches, big time rises to bills etc. so the new owners seem to be treating virgin media as a gravy train. Shame I thought we'd be getting more treats

I wondered if LibertyGlobal would just milk Virgin Media when they bought it. However, I've been pleasantly surprised to see this has not been the case and they're investing in areas like network expansion, buying Smallworld and getting the remaining Sky Sports channels in HD.
I think all telecoms providers have been guilty of above-inflation price rises but someone needs to keep those footballers in the style to which they are accustomed and a bit more as well!

---------- Post added at 18:13 ---------- Previous post was at 17:53 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761020)
Yes :D reading that back I think I'm the dumb one. :D

---------- Post added at 17:38 ---------- Previous post was at 17:31 ----------


We have an older Samsung in a bedroom what still seems to get app updates however I take your point , for me personally though the STB's are just too slow when using streaming services , my YV box whilst acceptable is considerably slower to load and navigate. At the end of the day all devices will become obsolete at some point however I agree with a streaming box your losing far less than a TV.

Vestel and Panasonic will be producing FreeviewPlay Smart TVs and Sony will be producing YouView TVs. These platforms should stay the course of time. However, that's not to say that the TVs themselves won't end up being relatively slow in the way that you've found with YouView.

DaMac 23-02-2015 18:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35761019)
To be honest most Smart TVs will become dumb eventually - as the TV manufacturers move on to the 'next' platform

At least with TiVo (and other add on boxes) it's easier to update them to ensure you still have access to the apps

But you have to have access to the apps in the first place... I have Netflix, Amazon in 4k and I have just downloaded and installed to my samsung TV m:go which is also a 4k service, so you can add new apps, you can update them, Samsung will even trust you to run your own developed apps on their tv's, let me see you update your TiVo to run hevc...

undertakereddie 23-02-2015 18:22

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Did Anyone Notice that the BBC iPlayer app has changed on Tivo?

passingbat 23-02-2015 18:40

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35761020)
Yes :D reading that back I think I'm the dumb one. :D
.

Not at all; it's a valid point.

My bedroom TV is nearly seven years old and the lounge one nearly five. But they were very well regarded at the time of purchase, and still produce a good picture now. I see no point in upgrading them, as the only significant gain would be smart functions, that I can get with a couple of extra boxes totalling £75. Of course, if I had oodles of spare cash, I may think differently :D

denphone 23-02-2015 18:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35761034)
Did Anyone Notice that the BBC iPlayer app has changed on Tivo?

Yes its certainly far better then it was before.

passingbat 23-02-2015 18:50

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Originally Posted by DaMac (Post 35761033)
But you have to have access to the apps in the first place... I have Netflix, Amazon in 4k and I have just downloaded and installed to my samsung TV m:go which is also a 4k service, so you can add new apps, you can update them, Samsung will even trust you to run your own developed apps on their tv's, let me see you update your TiVo to run hevc...

But aren't 4K TV's the only way you can currently get Amazon and Netflix in 4K?

Why just pick on Tivo? What about all the other devices that can stream Netflix/Amazon? They will need new boxes to do 4K.

Gavin-D 23-02-2015 19:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by undertakereddie (Post 35761034)
Did Anyone Notice that the BBC iPlayer app has changed on Tivo?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...d-on-tivo.html

:)

RichardCoulter 23-02-2015 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35760980)
What we want to know is BT Sport going to be staying in the XL pack because if it ain't then one suspects you will have to have something up your sleeve to replace it.:)

Premier Sports?? They have basically given up on hoping to make much out of advertising revenue by the cessation of BARB reporting. I can't see them having that many subscribers from what i've read; maybe they've done a deal with VM to let all XL customers have it ;-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35761026)
I wondered if LibertyGlobal would just milk Virgin Media when they bought it. However, I've been pleasantly surprised to see this has not been the case and they're investing in areas like network expansion, buying Smallworld and getting the remaining Sky Sports channels in HD.
I think all telecoms providers have been guilty of above-inflation price rises but someone needs to keep those footballers in the style to which they are accustomed and a bit more as well!

---------- Post added at 18:13 ---------- Previous post was at 17:53 ----------

Vestel and Panasonic will be producing FreeviewPlay Smart TVs and Sony will be producing YouView TVs. These platforms should stay the course of time. However, that's not to say that the TVs themselves won't end up being relatively slow in the way that you've found with YouView.

YouView is to be enhanced and rebranded; i'm not sure if this will improve this or not.

1andrew1 23-02-2015 21:13

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35761077)
YouView is to be enhanced and rebranded; i'm not sure if this will improve this or not.

I think you mean that NowTV is being rebranded and will have a new box this year? YouView like Tivo and Sky is continuously improved anyway.

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Premier Sports?? They have basically given up on hoping to make much out of advertising revenue by the cessation of BARB reporting. I can't see them having that many subscribers from what i've read; maybe they've done a deal with VM to let all XL customers have it ;-)

I can't really see Premier Sports being in XL. I think BT Sport will stay there. But if not, I could see Virgin providing its own Netflix-style service as UPC has done in Europe.

theone2k10 23-02-2015 21:33

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35761086)
I think you mean that NowTV is being rebranded and will have a new box this year? YouView like Tivo and Sky is continuously improved anyway.

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I can't really see Premier Sports being in XL. I think BT Sport will stay there but if not. I could see Virgin providing its own Netflix-style service as UPC has done in Europe.

I don't think Premier sport will be around much longer.

1andrew1 23-02-2015 21:46

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35761098)
I don't think Premier sport will be around much longer.

Is this inside knowledge? Or do you think they are rebranding to Setanta instead? They are launching in HD in the Summer on the Sky and possibly other platforms and have just re-signed Nascar.

RichardCoulter 23-02-2015 22:01

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35761086)
I think you mean that NowTV is being rebranded and will have a new box this year? YouView like Tivo and Sky is continuously improved anyway.

YouView rebrand info.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...now-tv-youview

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I don't think Premier sport will be around much longer.

From what i've read on the internet, those into sport don't seem to like or subscribe to this channel. They've stopped BARB reporting, so they can't be doing anything advertising wise, so I do tend to agree with you.

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...They are launching in HD in the Summer on the Sky and possibly other platforms and have just re-signed Nascar.

But then there's this to consider from Andrew, so maybe they have enough subscribers to make the operation worthwhile after all.

1andrew1 23-02-2015 22:30

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Off topic, sorry but confusingly, that's a new service from Freeview, Freeview Play which will compete against YouView. YouView itself is set to continue as it is, with Sony incorporating YouView into a new range of televisions.

All the free TV service platforms have slightly different shareholders hence the overlapping; but separate; offerings:
Freeview: Arqiva, BBC, Channel 4, ITV and Sky.
Freeview Play: Arqiva, BBC, Channel 4 and ITV.
Freesat: BBC, ITV. The company's Freetime software, a YouView equivalent, is available on some DTT televisions.
YouView: Arqiva, BBC, BT, Channel 4, Channel 5, ITV and TalkTalk.

theone2k10 23-02-2015 23:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35761102)
Is this inside knowledge? Or do you think they are rebranding to Setanta instead? They are launching in HD in the Summer on the Sky and possibly other platforms and have just re-signed Nascar.

They've been saying they're launching in HD for the last 2 years mate, it's just a feeling i have that Premier sports may not survive much longer.

andy_m 24-02-2015 06:33

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So if the dnp is in the "satisfying" rather than "blow your socks off" category it's obviously not Atlantic, but is probably History and Universal in hd.


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