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Thanks for the update MB

:)

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Unfortunately, that is no big deal, MB. Nice to have but I won't be waiting up all night for them to appear!

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I would really prefer some decent channels that I want to watch, not more total crap!

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Me too. And don`t you have to pay the `rip off` sky hd fee to get (when they come) sky news and sky sports in hd?

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Hopefully these will be included in the XL pack.

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Both Channels are "Sky Basic" HD Channels so will appear in XL Package (Just like Sky1 HD do).

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But what are these 'decent' channels?

Sky Atlantic is the only one we haven't got that floats my boat, and that has plenty of rubbish associated with it as well.

I would like to see an Australian channel showing the best of their programming. Unfortunately, that country doesn't seem to have done anything to 'internationalise' any of their channels - at least I am unaware of them.

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Atlantic is a defo for me anyway, you wanting re runs of Neighbours mate .....:D

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No, I wasn't thinking of Neighbours or Home and Away; I'm not that sad!

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The Young Doctors and The Sullivans ? :D

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So we know SSNHQ HD will be 511 but what channel will snhd be?

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I wonder when this stupid SD only of BBC regional English news will be lifted, the other day I watched BBC London in HD on the News channel at 6:30am

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603 is currently free

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Not surprising as the two emminate from the same studios. They could just output the London BBC1 HD output to all regions during the local news, but no doubt this would also get complaints.

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When there are the same number of BBC HD regions as there are SD (or when the SD regions are reduced to match the HD ones)

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They do that if you're watching BBC One live via iPlayer, and I think it has indeed been complained about.

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This is something both the BBC and ITV need to address next year. I`m not technically minded but surely adding local hd variants to BBC and ITV isn`t that difficult? The only thing that I can see that`s holding them back is money.
Anyway I`d like to take this opportunity to wish everyone A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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Cost is in the way upgrading the regional news centres, networks and serial new hd frequencies, across cable, satellite and freeview. Want an increase in license fee, to pay for it!

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Certainly not! I object to this over-priced `tv tax` as it is!:mad:

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Why does the regional programming have to be in hd? Is it not possible to cut the current version into the hd broadcast? Non hd content is shown on hd channels all the time.

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:sleep:Yes, but the costs of transmission are still steap

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But you don't object to paying more for your soap powder etc. to fund the advertising on ITV? It's still a 'Tax'; just not collected in such an obvious way.

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No I'd like the BBC to stop wasting money and spend it more wisely.

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I'm not hear to justify the BBC license fee. These upgrades have to be paid for somehow.

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We can fund it by scraping the new silly BBC1+1 channel :)

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Or not boosting the BBC1 drama budget which is already over what it should be by 30 million.

The BBC is run by fools that have no idea how to spend money wisely.

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If they just kept the regional versions in standard definition, but switched to them on the hd channel why would the transmission costs be any different? They're already being broadcast. I can understand it would cost to start transmitting them in hd, I'm just not sure that's really wanted.

Genuine question.

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People should leave the BBC alone it's cheaper than Sky and ITV use advertising to pay for there content with adverts every 15 mins. If the BBC loses the license fee and will have to use advertising which would be taken a way from other channels causing them to close so less choice so stop moaning and enjoy before its gone

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If the BBC were to do this, they'd still need to broadcast multiple copies of the HD channel, as well as the existing multiple SD channels. This is what costs.

I suppose in theory the STB could do the switching at the appropriate times by retuning to the local SD channel (in a similar way to how the STB retunes to the off-air slate on the part-time channels), but that would require substantial software and system development by VM.

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Sky, itv don't send bullies around to harras people and lie to them to obtain funding though.

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Well said.

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Looking forward to SSNHQ and SN arriving in HD in Jan and hopefully 2015 will bring us more than just the (ridiculously high!) Feb price rise.

:xmas: everyone, I hope you all have a good 'un whatever you are doing :)

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Merry Christmas to all!;)

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Christmas wishes thread is here

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/22...g-you-all.html

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Thanks for the answer. Obviously it's not for Virgin or Sky etc to do the switching for the BBC.

I won't risk going off topic by wishing everyone a merry Christmas :rolleyes:

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Do we have any potential launches in January other than the two sky hd channels? I'm trying to think what we are really missing out on. Other than the channel which must not be named *cough* Atlantic

Part of thinks it may come soon. This is not based on any evidence other than sky have had it exclusive for a while, the impact of it is dwindling, they need additional advertising funds to add to the coffers for EPL bid, now tv has taken off for people who wanted Atlantic that way, a few people get sky tv for Christmas so announcing it coming to VM in January after that's all died down makes sense. Plus it would make sense as to why sky sports news and sky news hd were kept back till new year

Keep the contract secret, wait till the Christmas now tv and sky subscriptions have died down and then in January you can have the lot... Would make sense for the price increase?

Fantasy? A nonsense theory? Who knows! I'm sure the adventure we will embark on next year on here will be wild enough ..

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Makes me wonder what will happen when the BBC launches BBC1+1 to replace BBC3 next year. Are they going to put a loop into each regional centre to delay local output by an hour? ITV have shied away from doing this due to costs in some areas.

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Afraid to dash your hopes- it will be BBC London in England, feeding all the English regions.
Even with stb switching which was looked into for satellite, this is not possible, they will still need multiple transmission feeds from the English regions. It would be the same cost to switch a few times a day.

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The difference is I can CHOOSE which brand of soap powder I buy i.e. one that doesn`t advertise and hence is cheaper. I can`t choose not to buy a tv licence or shop around for a cheaper one,can I?

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This argument that if the BBC took adverts it would take advertising revenue away from other commercial stations is `old hat` and just isn`t true. The beeb said this long before there was multi commercial channels but now they`re here I see ITV are still around and doing okay. So are the others. Why can`t the beeb be partly funded by adverts and as a subscription channel anyway? Like sky 1,Watch,Alibi etc.

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And where does all this anti BBC rubbish come from apart from other TV stations? Oh yes The Sun, Times Sunday Times Daily Mail, Daily Express and what do they have in common?- yes all have investments in TV stations, hardly unbiased commentators.

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Well said my friend and so true

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If you look at other countries where the erosion of license fee has occurred and a former state broadcaster takes advertising all those things happen. It weakens the investment in programming to only have advertisers, reduces the content available and quality.

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This will now launch by Wednesday.

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So, you analyse every advert on ITV for every product that you buy and then make sure that you buy a brand that isn't advertised?

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Of course not! The point I`m trying to make though is I can choose what products I want to buy and compare prices to get the best deal. Can I do this with the licence fee? Can I shop around for the best deal? No I have no choice, if I want to watch tv,regardless whether it`s the beeb channels or not,or use my pc,or even my mobile, I have to pay the BBC for the privillage of doing so. That`s what I object to - NO CHOICE!.

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Yes you have, just don't watch live TV and stick to catch up.

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It's not a nonsense theory at all, Vince, and in fact I have been saying this, much to the annoyance of a sector of this forum, for some time.

However, the talks that have taken place with Sky have been in secret and so it is impossible for anyone to say for sure, but I think things started to change last year, and the results of these negotiations may well be seen next month. If my suspicions are correct, we should be getting all the missing Sky channels, including Atlantic and Sky 1+1.

However, if this doesn't happen early in the New Year, I think I will finally have to concede defeat on this theory which is based on earlier reports that have been discussed in this forum. I do think these reports have some basis in fact but I won't be able to prove this until it happens.

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If the negotiations are in secret, how do you know they are happening? ;)

i would love to see them but I seen no evidence of any change of circumstance or "negotiations". Maybe you see a glass half full whereas I see a glass half empty but as much as you can wish it there has been no move or stance change from Sky in this matter

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I'm quite capable of forming an opinion on the poor management of the BBC and the tv tax without relying on comment from the Sun, etc, thank you very much.

You only have to look at the channel 4 stable to see how public service television can be run by a public organisation but be self-funding.

Re: Maggie's comment I suggest the spirit of goodwill might have lasted longer if people hadn't been told off for wishing each other a Merry Christmas!

@Old Boy, I applaud your optimism, but it isn't going to happen!

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Andy, we were responding to the query about why there is a delay in the english regions joining the BBC HD lineup, stb switching. it was for others complaining about the broadcaster. Channel 4 isn't a shining beacon of PSB.

Anyhow Merry Christmas one and all.

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your dreaming about SA OB we not get that no chance

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+1

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The fact that Virgin were in discussions with Sky on the missing Sky channels was reported, but what has been a secret is the state of those negotiations.

It is possible that the deal has been done already, but you can't blame Sky from getting as much traction as possible with the Now TV box and also get the lucrative Christmas period out of the way before announcing anything.

Anyhow, we will soon find out now, one way or the other.

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Well, I know that's your view, Dave, but there is no back up reported information that you can point to in order to back up your opinion.

My view is based on information from the Autumn before last and I had good cause to believe that there was a credible reason for thinking that things were changing.

Negotiations can take a long time, and if I'm right, we will hear more about this in January.

Anyway, let's wait and see. Just days to go now.

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Lol, still banging on about that one, solitary report. If it happens it probably has very little to do with that report from the autumn before last. Iirc, was that report not about the back haul of internet services?

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The Broadcast report was one of those I'm referring to. The back haul services was a separate report and simply demonstrated increasing co-operation between the companies.

It wasn't me who raised this matter again, I was simply answering a post, and on the contrary, if SA does turn up in January, it all stems from those negotiations. It has taken so long to take into account the launch of the Now box if I am right about this.

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Aye it makes sense oldboy. I still think this is what happened with bt sport and virgin media. a sort of we'll do the deal to be in XL but keep quiet, announce it on the day of launch and we'll use the time to bang our drum that bt sport is exclusive to BT and how VM customers cant get it.

If so its a strategy VM have done before to acquire channels. Once the christmas period is over the missing sky core channels could be announced...fingers crossed. always good to discuss though!

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Exactly, Vince.

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Indeed you were just replying to a post, as was I. Care to share which other reports you were referring to?

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Oh, come on, we've been through all this. Let's just wait and see.

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If they replace BBC 3 with BBC 1 +1, the plans are for a part-time service from 8PM, conveniently missing the early evening regional news variations. The 10 minute news opt outs following the 10PM news broadcast wouldn't really justify the cost of any extra infrastructure required to provide a fully regional +1 service on cable and satellite. A fully regional service on Freeview would be relatively simple to introduce, the multiplex carrying the service is already regional. It's unlikely, however, that the BBC would provide a regional service on only one platform.

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A Broadcast report isn't a guarantee that something is going to happen. They will take a good journalistic approach and report what seems to be a possible outcome of negotiations taking place at a given point in time. The actual outcome of the negotiations may actually be very different to what is reported at an early stage. The report to which you refer would have had little merit if the suggested outcome didn't materialise within, say, 3 months. After 6 months the validity period has well and truly expired. To trust it after around 18 months is incredibly optimistic. But we can all dream. ;)

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If bbc3 goes internet only i hope there would be a streaming option for freeview, like MotorsTV and Vintage TV, i'd be happy with that.

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Fair points. I assume the Broadcast article in question this one from 27 June 2013? As far as I'm aware, it was the only article on the subject.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/virgin...057814.article

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It may well come, but it will have nothing to do with those negotiations mentioned in that report. It will be due to the customer surveys sent out by e-mail to people (a couple of us on here received them) asking what customers wanted in return for a big price increase. Plus they would have had to cave into Sky's asking price too. If VM got Atlantic at a reduced price, all the other suppliers would want it at that price too.

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Well the big price increase is happening in February so let's see what turns up.

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Indeed. From the questions I was asked, we could a receive a number of different services. SA, was just one of a number of options. We may of course get nothing.

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It will be nothing. There's no need to soften the blow of price rises in February, because everybody will be used to the idea by then and since nothing was announced or rumoured around the time that this year's rises were announced I, personally, think it's fair to conclude that they aren't linked to anything other than the ongoing provision of current services.

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You still need a licence to watch catch up tv!

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Erm no you don't

http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-i...nd-online-top8

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Joining Arqiva's Connect service will cost them money. It is likely the service will become part of the iPlayer service. With the majority of new TV's now accessing Smart content as standard, this is an obvious progression. Who knows, it may even become available via the TiVO app.

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Watch it on your TV if you have the capability to do so.

Just because you have a TV doesn't mean you watch (or record to watch later) live TV.

Without a licence you can only:

Watch on demand – including catch-up TV and on demand previews – through services like BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4oD, Demand 5, BT Vision, Virgin Media, Sky Go, Now TV, Apple TV, Chromecast, Roku and Amazon Fire TV.
Watch on demand movies from providers like Sky, Virgin Media, BT Vision, Netflix and Amazon Instant Video.
Watch recorded films and programmes either from a disc (e.g. DVD or Blu-ray) or downloaded from the internet.
Watch on demand internet video clips through services like YouTube.
Play video games.

All of the above can be done on a TV


Anyway this is way off topic, sorry mods.

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Have they been hassling you since you went on line only?

The last time that I ascertained the cost of SA to VM was something like 22p per week per subscriber (I posted it in here). Maybe the new owners of VM are prepared to pay it or have negotiated a reduction??

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Maybe they would let the BBC use their service for nothing, kind of like a loss leader to encourage others to use their service (there don't seem to be many takers so far and I think some have already closed)??

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I completely disagree. It is fairly well known I think that negotiations of this nature can take a long time to agree.

It seems to me that negotiations were well under way in the late summer of 2013, and Sky were trying to get VM to take a new channel (Sky Bravo). I think that it is a very likely possibility that VM decided to stand firm against taking that channel until there was an agreement on Sky Atlantic.

The launch of the Now Tv box I believe was a last ditch attempt by Sky to wrangle as many people as possible from potential subscribers before finally allowing VM to screen the channel, and it was necessary to wait until the end of the Christmas rush before conceding this.

Of course, no-one really knows, but my guess at what is happening here is legitimate. I think that using Sky Atlantic as the USP has just about been done to death now and Sky will welcome the additional advertising revenue that will result in the channel coming to VM.

I think that January will be a very interesting month, but as I said, let's wait and see.

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Any news on Universal HD? And is SKY News still launching in Jan? Looking forward to seeing Nazaneen in HD.

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Popped around once to check everything and said "see you in two years" i still get them knocking lol, i wind them up by inviting them in for a cuppa you should see their faces lol.

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As far as i'm aware there is no development yet regarding UniversalHD coming onto vm.

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Maybe a link could be posted to the relevant thread?

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Sky News HD launches in January. There is no news yet on Universal HD.

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Of course SA on Now TV was a money spinner.

Yeah, negotiations can take a long time, but I am amazed you think it has taken a year and a half to agree on a fee. Plus, as I have said before, there is/was probably very little negotiating going on considering Sky want one fee and fee only. As I said before, if VM get a good deal, all the other suppliers will want the same deal and Sky will not let that happen.

January may well be interesting, but if SA launches, I think it will be down to the customer survey e-mails that were sent out a few months ago, not because of potential negotiations which started 18 months ago.

Either way, if VM get SA, the end will surely justify the means.:).

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Fair enough Andy. There were numerous options given to us via the e-mail. I can't remember them all, the one that stood out the most for me was the possibility of Netflix being bundled in with XL.

I think some changes will be coming with the rises, purely through the wording of the first page of the survey, but I will not be disappointed or surprised if nothing materializes. Ultimately, every company has to stay profitable and cover their increases in costs first and foremost. If VM cant afford to add anything to the service, I, personally, would rather pay more to keep VM afloat than have VM waste money on SA.

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The vm forum team saying "good things are coming" seemed possibly cheeky

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I wouldn't get too excited if i were you from what i've heard apart from skysportsnews and newshd only international channels are launching.

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Thanks.

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ill take international channels. sometimes then im drunk i like to sit watching spanish television for no particular reason but boredom. it seems more funny

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Lmao i was like that with the international channels on Sky before i went on demand only.

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And I disagree with pretty much all that you said here

I fail to see how you have concluded that these negotiations take a long time, if any negotiation are even taken place, I don't think it well known because negotiations take as long or as short as possible depending on co operation of side. Based on official releases sky reckon they gave a "fair" price , VM thinks not (and neither does any other provider). In that scenario I reckon talks are had but certainly not involving SA.

I fail to see what this channel sky bravo anything to do with this; the missing HD channels that have arrived or about to arrive have demonstrated agreements can be made without SA let alone a mystery non existent channel that was Rumoured to be starting, I fail to see that's it's non agreement with VM would fail to launch, ITV encore can without VM why not this bravo

I fail to see how NowTV is as you describe a last ditch attempt; TV over Internet is very much the future and sky is using this as a method to ensure its presence in this new(ish) market in light of new competition against its traditional model. Now offers a new market audience who don't wish to take expensive contracts.

i give you the fact that no one knows, and maybe deals with missing HD might see a new light of co operation but unless advertisers or regulation force sky hand to ensure bigger coverage or HBO requires it they ain't going to budge soon on this

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Sky Atlantic is not going to arrive on VM anytime soon only 2 Sky channels are pencilled in for first half of 2015 and these have already been mentioned.
As for nowtv that was in the pipeline before Sky Atlantic even launched it was originally going to be a pay service on freeview called picnic this was delayed and delayed for some reason finally Sky went with nowtv.
I'm getting bored of reading about Sky Atlantic launching on VM simple answer VM were offered it VM refused to pay the silly ammount SKY were asking and good on VM i say.
Sky bravo is dead in the water all it ever was was a idea that got floated around and was quickly dismissed.
Sorry i quoted your post Anypermitedroute i was just using it as a reference and not to dismiss anything you was saying.
Will Sky Atlantic launch on VM? Not anytime soon is the simple answer.

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How is ITV encore doing at the moment? Haven't heard much surrounding it, has it got a release date for Virgin Media in 2015?

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There is no release date currently.

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The channel launch was part of a 4 year partnership deal Sky. At the time they started broadcasting the press releases stated it would be exclusive to Sky customers for some, if not all of that period.

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Spot on.

And Now TV is probably attracting some VM TV customers who really want to see HBO content and are prepared to shell out a bit more money to watch it.

I can see no real advantage for Sky to add Atlantic to VM. Well, unless the upcoming Premiership bid leaves them strapped for cash :D

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And also for Cord Cutters who want to choose the TV content that they pay for, in a more selective way.

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With all the buffering problems that go with Now TV. I all but unwatchable and that's with 152mb connection

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No buffering at all on my 80mb plusnet connection although i suffered buffering when i was with VMs 100mb service which makes me wonder if VM are throttling still.

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We never see any buffering issues on a BT Infinity connection most devices are wired or connected via homeplugs.

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Sorry for my ignorance but what is `throttling`? Incidently I have buffering issues more often now I`m with virgin and their `superfast` broadband which I didn`t get when I was with Sky broadband. Makes you think,doesn`t it?

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Throttling just means slowing down the speeds. VM say they don't throttle but it's bull they do throttle and i've caught them out on more than one occasion.

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I access it via the web and an LG Bluray player with no problems whatsoever.

What device are you using to watch Now TV on?

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I have no problems with my Now TV - I do have a 152mb connection though... :)

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Thanks for that. I agree,I think Virgin slow down the speeds too.