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Must be too busy preparing the room to reply.

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Like Bob Geldof...

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Source

And so it starts. :(

Where next? Haringay, Tower Hamlets, Lambeth. Place your bets now.

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That would mean affecting Labour voters, so won't happen.

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Well there's no way this is going to stir up resentment is there?... :rolleyes:

Sooner or later someone will top themselves because they're being evicted or something and then that'll occupy the airwaves as the media descends en masse expecting a backlash to report on and raising all the inevitable and entirely foreseeable consequences of this madness.

I sometimes wonder if the people running the show are for real - are they totally stupid or is all this part of some grand sinister scheme intended to result in chaos 'requiring' drastic measures to control, thereby providing the chosen 'elite' with the opportunity to protect themselves and their lifestyles forever at the expense of us and ours. Seems far-fetched I'll grant you but, could so many people really be so stupid? If they are there's precious little hope for us anyway surely... :erm:

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He's practically quoted me word for word.

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manhunt of six Afghan illegal immigrants.......who shot at a farm worker in the West Midlands earlier this week has been called off after just 36 unsuccessful hours

Bloody Nora! :rolleyes::dozey::(

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Reading the article on this right-wing news and opinion website make the Daily Mail readers' comments seem very tame:

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Why are you ignoring the information I have presented in favour of commenting about the political bias of the news source and some comments from the Mail? :confused:

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I am commenting on the veracity of the "news" source

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Are you saying that the news source I linked to is, in this case, making the story up or some such? :confused:

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I have no idea if it's true but, given the large numbers of migrants who've come here in the back of lorries over the years and the extreme lengths they're clearly prepared to go to, in Calais for example, why would such a scenario be deemed totally implausible? :confused:

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If people started posting articles from the Socialist Worker or videos from this guy then I imagine people would also be inclined not to trust it.

People do find it easier to just dismiss sources they don't trust. I would be surprised if you don't see something and distrust it from experience. I don't trust Michael Moore films as they have a frequent habit of misleading and I don't have the time to check each citation or fact to see if it's true. We all have to rely on trusting a source to an extent which is why we often dismiss sources we don't trust.

Might be better to link to the local paper they sourced the story from: http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/UPDAT...ail/story.html

or The Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rvices-M6.html

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But my source wasn't in that league. :shrug:

I don't trust the Guardian but I don't dismiss it's news stories out of hand but that's what happened to my posted link.

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It would appear that it is true.

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Yes well that wouldn't surprise me at all but then I'm not in denial about the serious problems our porous borders and ridiculous immigration policy are causing us.

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Our local forestry commission centre is having trouble with loads of migrants sleeping rough in barns and out buildings, it might be 'overlookable' if they didn't make such a mess and abuse the volunteers who are no offence little old ladies.

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http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10...by-polar-bear/

Pity the bear was caged.now that would have been a deterrent for future chancers.:)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34535983

I thought that only happened in xenophobic Britain... :rolleyes:

Anyway the flow hasn't ceased, the deaths are still occurring and the problems are being widely felt yet the media seems to have lost interest in all of that and moved on to the much more serious problem of carrier bags...

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Link

Looks like the Bulgarians don't take prisoners.

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I'm only surprised that this hasn't happened already but I don't suppose it'll be the last time either.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reu...tion-help.html

You have got to laugh at the European union "pillocks" latest idea to turkey to try to stem the flood of migrants through their country.Bribe them with cash and promise to speed up their application to join the European union.Just what the European union needs, another potential 78 million muslims free to"flee" to the west.Beggars belief.

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Quid pro quo. Yes Turkish entry into the EU without serious reform of the free movement of people rules would make the current flow of migrants look like a trickle.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34562209



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34561531

Another victim of the madness.

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http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/w...cle4587109.ece (Paywall)

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34568499

Somebody's going to have to sort something out or we're going to see huge problems as winter sets in.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34569227

I see the beefed up security is working so well... :rolleyes:

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They should have armed soldiers with guns the other side of the fence and France should be censured for giving free Calais rail tickets to migrants.

If Europe continues to welcome people with open arms, millions of them are going to risk their lives crossing the Mediterranean and the long walk in winter conditions.

This madness will never end until the EU gets real and finally accepts the misguided nature of its policies.

And if France thinks that the Calais mafia are coming here, they have another think coming. The French authorities need to move them on and clear up the site to stop all this lawlessness. They can't come here and that's that.

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Well it is staggering quite just how inept the EU seems to be. Calais aside, this has been going on long enough for them to have come up with some form of credible action but things have been allowed to simmer away nicely with ever increasing numbers tempted to take their chances. It didn't take the brain of Einstein to realise that's what would happen and it doesn't take a genius to work out that unless the authorities get a grip on this situation things will turn very nasty indeed. IMHO it's already be too late to prevent major problems but the more people who're encouraged to come here by the lack of any credible deterrent, the bigger and more protracted the crisis will be. Never mind though because the EU's great at having emergency meetings... :rolleyes:

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The border of Britain is not in Calais. If the French wanted too they could remove that perk and we would have to deal with these camps in Dover. I doubt we would tolerate it if it were the other way around so being too aggressive towards France might not be in our best interests.

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IIRC it is by treaty and can only be changed with the agreement of both sides. Of course the French being a law unto themselves when it suits, I wouldn't bank on them honouring that however...

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The treaty has a break clause that would allow France to bow out with a 2 year notice period.

http://www.thelocal.fr/20150806/will...ve-border-home

There is a reason why the UK Government has been very careful not to implicate France or otherwise criticise them for the problems in Calais. This is treaty that benefits us more than it benefits them and the only reason France continues to abide by it is so that they don't sour diplomatic relations.

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Of course there is, regardless of any treaty, there's nothing for us to gain by antagonising them. The French are prepared to flout the rules when it suits them to do so and they've acted unilaterally in the past.

That being said, they'd much rather not have a constant flow of migrants through their country so it's in both our interests to prove to these people that there's no point coming to France and expecting to get to the UK. I believe that'd be the quickest way to cut the numbers.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34569634

Methinks Merkel has acquired Thatcher Syndrome - she started to believe she could do no wrong. I reckon a lot of knives are being sharpened...

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....And how exactly would they be getting to Dover? Even the Germans baulked at crossing the Channel in the Second World War!

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That'll be interesting if word spreads, and it's classed as UK turf & they apply for asylum, badum UK here we go & it's only across a little bit of sea.

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Word will spread very quickly and you can bet the numbers will soon rise dramatically. The same happens every time a new route across borders is discovered. As harsh as it seems the only way to stop this happening is to take these people straight back to where they came from but that's not a decision many people would feel comfortable with and would become progressively difficult.

My worry is that as the numbers increase, as they inevitably will, it will get to the point where the only way to stop places being overwhelmed will be the use of force. That's a scenario nobody wants to contemplate but it's the awful reality IMHO. Irrespective of what sympathy we have for them, we cannot allow the EU to be effectively 'stormed' by countless people from around the globe who are simply desperate to come here.

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Trains, Boats? If the passport control is in Dover that poses a problem. There might be additional security checks like we have for Ireland which could help but otherwise the ability to check who should and shouldn't be coming over would be done in England not France.

Also WW2 isn't a useful reference point.

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I wonder how long it'll be before a boat load of terrorists turn up somewhere and start shooting or blowing things up. Allowing unknown people to turn up on a military base is a big mistake - we need to send out a clear message that it will not be tolerated.

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Pack them into a C35 and drop them off where they came from. :D

Trying to get into a military base by force is likely to have fatal consequences.

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Yes and so it should. However turning up amongst a boat load of seemingly innocent people (who may be under threat of their lives) quite possibly isn't going to attract any attention until it's too late. It'd be interesting to know what precautions are being taken by the RAF.

The longer this goes on the more I think back to the days when we were considering joining the Euro and there were those who insisted it'd be the best thing since sliced bread. They dismissed those who had the temerity to disagree as xenophobes, short sighted, idiots, sheep following the tabloid agenda blah blah blah. Funny how they all seem to have disappeared eh? Wasn't such a good idea after all was it! Now we have a huge new Euro-crisis and still people like that use the same insults to those with whom they disagree. Well it's patently obvious that those who predicted this problem would start to mushroom out of control have been proved right and yet there are still those who prefer to exist in denial and rely on name calling because that's all they've got. Well deny away but wait and see how many more migrants pitch up on our borders in coming months/years if nothing is done to stop them and maybe one day you'll see. Trouble is it'll be too late by then because Europe will have seen irrevocable change and the creation of huge irreversible social problems which will result in unrest.

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Why? Because it doesn't suit your argument?

Crossing the Channel is a completely different proposition from crossing the Med.

If you are talking about commercial boats and trains, all the Government has to do is make the appropriate companies pay the cost for any 'returnees'. They would then have to satisfy themselves that all their passengers were entitled to cross before boarding.

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Steady on, old chap!

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Because it ended 70 years ago! You really think the failure of Germany to invade Britain in 1940 offers useful information on how to deal with mass migration in 2015?

If it were this easy then we wouldn't have felt the need to negotiate this treaty in France in the first place. The cost of sending them back isn't the main concern or expense in processing these applications. It is much easier from Britain's point of view for them to never arrive on British soil and hence this treaty works for us and winding up the French helps no one.

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sadly the use of force seems inevitable.

Remember these people are fleeing a war zone, so to them things like border controls and hunger is better than been in a war zone as they have escaped the violence, only new violence will make them reconsider. Also we have the situation I expect there is economic migrants pretending to be syrians.

Tough situation I got no idea what a proper solution is, but it isnt to allow them to all migrate to europe in unlimited numbers.

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Increasing numbers of migrants are now entering Norway via Russia. Word's got out that it's a safer route.

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Exploitation all around I'd say. People smugglers, bike sellers, boat owners etc etc etc. So many people making money out of this misery and it's the better off migrants who can pay...

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34621032

Migrants crossing Slovenian border under cover of darkness. Not sure they're too keen on official procedures.

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http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...ion-of-europe/
Happy days......
:(

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They said they will take over the world.

we laughed

They said watch the news.

we read "Muslim Invasion of Europe"

They said you'll follow our rules.

we laughed again.

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Too true.

There's going to be a lot of trouble when the Germans start turning people away and trying to remove migrants. If anyone had wanted to destabilise Europe could they have done a better job? Maybe someone wants to distract us from other looming issues? Create chaos then impose the emergency measures needed to tackle it. Blame it all on international/humanitarian problems as opposed to a failed Euro project amongst other things. Just thinking out loud...

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http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/eur...igrant-n451166

I think he's right about one thing but wrong in his conclusion. IMHO the EU has already started to fall apart an the legacy of this problem will be serious resentment in large parts of the EU.

Meanwhile the Polish elections are sending out a fairly clear message aren't they...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34631826

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Wasn't sure whether this should go in the JC thread but here it is:

Linky

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We all know what Labour's true intentions with regard to immigration have been for many years. They've tried to dress it up and spin it in many different ways but the truth came out and what they've done knocks Shirley Porter's Westminster experiment into a cocked hat. They knew it would be irreversible and that's what they wanted - more fool the idiots who believed them because we're going to be left with the legacy. for decades to come just as we are with their failed economic policy. As you say, there are many, many more on the way and unless we get real we are going to see serious unrest - the only question is how serious.

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Labour has always loved low paid immigrants as they were more likely to get their votes.

The Conservatives loved low paid immigrants because they cost business a lot less in wages.

The Tax Credits and Child Benefit changes might do a hard reset though, except for those very polygamous immigrant "families". And a few indigenous ones too of course.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34648574

Has he only just realised that? :shrug:

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Linky

Tells it like it is rather than the supine response of the EU leaders.

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As unpleasant as the thought is, he is right and it will have to happen if we're going to have any chance of preventing Europe being flooded. Encouraging migrants to come to the EU is really no different from the UK allowing free access to EU citizens and look how many came here. The main differences are: a) there are many more people around the world who want that chance and are utterly desperate to take it and b) the cultural and other differences and usually far greater, both of which will mean successfully integrating and accommodating them will be impossible. For those who are rightly concerned about the plight of refugees, well taking in economic migrants in such vast numbers simply means the public appetite for and means by which to assist genuine refugees will be severely diminished.

We really do have to get real - it's no good the Eurocrats bandying around terms like 'grave emergency' whilst standing there wringing their hand and watching the disaster unfold. We have to be decisive and proactive not reactive - the EU has proven itself to be neither.

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Shotguns Have ‘Virtually Sold Out’ In Austria

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That doesn't sound very 'welcoming' does it... :erm:

Anyway closer to home:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34666386

Get it right??!! At what point has any UK government since WWII really got it right on immigration?

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The government said "careful planning" was needed to "ensure we get it right".

Britain can't trust any government that doubts itself.
and allows kids to die in their care. and say the bonus is that we'll learn by all these mistakes.

the country will be strife with crime, rape, murder and everything else.
don't be stupid and believe that this isn't the case. because it is.

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I'd rather have a Government that doubted itself, than one who assumed they knew everything, and never reviewed/revised anything.

It must be nice being perfect and never making mistakes or doubting yourself.

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Yes and there's one undeniable truth that, whatever Govts. do, they'll be damned by someone or other.

In other news:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34683056

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34634709

That ought to be the EU's motto.

Quid pro quo? Facilitated Turkish entry into the EU? How much more uncontrolled immigration would that result in?

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Orban: ‘The People Of Europe Are Beginning To Wake Up’

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He's right. Big trouble is brewing and what's been allowed to happen within Europe isn't ever going to be forgotten by those whose countries have been worst affected and I include in that the German people. A whole lot of people are now discovering that in the grand EU scheme of things, their views no longer matter - they and their Govts. get told what to do...

Not only have the Germans engineered EU economic and political policy to suit their own ends as best they can but, to add insult to grievous injury, they're now going to be roundly condemned for creating a tidal wave of migration which is destabilising far poorer nations and the legacy of which is going to last for decades.

The arrogance, lack of foresight, organisation, unity and empathy being demonstrated within the EU is staggering but it's really no surprise to those of us who could predict the inevitable consequences of its single state obsession.

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Germans I talked to think Merkel wanted an end to Gast Werkers from Turkey (right to work, but no right of abode or right to vote) and replace the unskilled labour force with eastern Europeans (right to work, right of abode and right to vote).

She is totally against Turkey entering the EU, citing "civil rights abuses" among other things.

Well, she appears to have started the exodus of Turks from Germany, but has another lot coming through the door via Turkey.

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Interesting. Well if she is she's in between a rock and a very hard place because the Turks have the whip hand so far as I can see and they're going to exact a heavy price for making any serious attempts to stop the flood.

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Sweden ‘Facing Collapse’ Thanks To Migrant Influx, Foreign Minister Warns

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Now that's negative for you. ;)

How on Earth did we arrive at a situation in which EU leaders are talking like this? :confused: :rolleyes:

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When the word spreads amongst the foreigners that the British Police are a bunch of fairies and are softer than cotton wool. then Britain is in trouble.

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I drove through an area of Manchester last week that reminded me of a bad area of Luxor in Egypt i once travelled through. I felt safer in Belfast at the hight of the troubles that i did in Manchester the other day.

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Never mind eh? Who cares what you think? Our glorious leaders know best and it's not as though they've led us into one crisis after another without seeming to learn anything is it??... :rolleyes:

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Birmingham's really bad. you can pretend you're on holiday thousands of miles away. just park the car and walk up and down the road. you'll suddenly become a tourist.

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Today's Turkish vote is going to be critical to Europe.

And to Turkey's secular stance under Erdogan.

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Turkey being granted entry into the EU is going to be just another reason for us to leave IMHO. At what point are the Eurocrats going to accept that they can't manage the 'union' they have let alone a larger one?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34700104

Many are from Syria? Well we know that but far more are not from Syria so why does the BBC insist on making that point repeatedly.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34715877

This time they're mostly Syrians. It's almost as if the other nationalities don't matter.

In any even they clearly don't want the sanctuary they're being offered but want to go where they choose.

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With a bit of luck, word will spread and RAF Akrotiri won't get any more visitors - job done.

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That's what needs to happen and it's been where the authorities have been found wanting that the worst problems have occurred as people seize their chance to travel further into Europe than ought to have been possible prior to them being screened. As it stands there's a lot of refugees wandering around Europe but far more people who are purely economic migrants exploiting the chaos.

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I liked this for the hand wringers and fair play lefty types from another forum

Courtesy of arrse (http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/thr...5501/page-1228) it's Armed Forces so don't get all upset because it's not all PC & cosy.

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"Interesting" site ARRSE got it from.....

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Mmm, chemtrails.

You know, I fully expected chemtrails to get underlined as a spelling mistake. Seems someone in Cupertino has a sense of humour (or maybe is just massively paranoid).

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Mm Fascinating Chris & Hugh, and that has.. what exactly to do with migration? At least try and keep on topic rather than quoting some weirdness from somewhere that's not.

It's no good trying to discredit Arsse, I daresay you could go into any forum - including this one, and find some weirdo obscure thread somewhere and use it to try and make said forum look like swivel eyed loons. I already made the disclaimer that it's a Forces site so you won't get all your lovely liberal PC ******** there, what you DO get however is a viewpoint from serving & ex-serving members who have a viewpoint that as valid as any of the handwringers ones you find lurking here.

In the case of the population density to migrant numbers it serves to put into context how some countries fare much better than others.

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Completely agree.....

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In other news....link

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I wasn't trying to discredit ARRSE (as ex-Services, I am a frequent visitor to the site).

If you read my post, you would have seen I pointed out that ARRSE got it from a site that looks to be based on paranoid ramblings on a number of subjects, which IMHO lessens that site's (not ARRSE's) credibility.

btw, love your proposition that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a hand wringer and a lefty - heaven forbid that they just don't agree with you.

I think you may find that any 'left wingers' on this forum do not count Chris and I as fellow-travellers...;)

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Heh I wasn't referring to you as a lefty, If I were I'd quite clearly say 'Hugh you're a lefty luvvie' so don't assume stuff til its very clear. Interestingly enough much of the lefty types here seem to have dropped off the radar as the migration saga has rumbled on and shown no sign of stopping. Funny that.

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Yes, they're probably still in therapy after telling us all the Euro was the best thing since sliced bread and denigrating anyone who had the temerity to disagree. I recall being told my fears were all a function of xenophobic paranoia but that all seems to have gone quiet now for some strange reason... :shrug:

The EU, the Euro and the single European state are very fine concepts in theory but they don't take into account basic human nature.

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More EU 'madness'?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...or-Africa.html

I'd have thought qualified people, doctors, entrepreneurs etc. are just the sort of people we ought to be encouraging to stay put in order to benefit their own countries. We're only just emerging from a medical crisis in which doctors/nurses from all around the world were sent to Africa in order to contain the ebola outbreak. :confused:

If Cameron can't by now see what sort of people he's dealing with and how broken the EU is he must be as stupid/misguided as they are. Perhaps he believes we should stay in the EU no matter what the cost - shackling us to a sinking ship. It'll be interesting to see what his stance is when he finds that nothing of any significance is going to change as a result of his 'negotiations'.

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That's exactly what I thought when I read the article this morning. Plus, does the EU really think that the African countries will happily take back their unskilled people for a few sheckles and happily give up their skilled people? :confused:

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interesting page
I know that this data is a few years old but I doubt that much has changed.

......and more up to date info

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Taken from the comments section of one of those articles:

King Alfred: And now my lords we march to fight Guthrum and his great Viking army.
Priest: I am sorry my Lord but that is against their human rights. You see they have been here for a few years.
King Alfred: What about when they wiped out the whole of East Anglia?
Priest: Well you see that is a part of their culture which we must respect my lord.
King Alfred: Okay then I will send you to negotiate with them lets see how long you will last...
Priest: I believe we can integrate them, my Lord.
King Alfred: But what about their raping?
Priest: Diversity, my Lord.
King Alfred: And their pillaging?
Priest: Enrichment, my Lord.
King Alfred: Their looting?
Priest: Vibrancy, my Lord.
King Alfred: This integration you speak of ... it looks a lot like, well, what we used to call 'losing'.
:D

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Yes, we've been consistently fed misinformation in order to justify and even disguise mass migration and its true costs to UK plc, both social and economic. Who was it who coined the phrase 'joined up thinking'? There's precious little evidence of that when it comes to immigration.

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Al Qaeda Terror Boss Discovered On Migrant Boat.......Authorities ‘Tried To Hide News’

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You can be sure there are a lot more of his kind now in the EU area. ISIS are not stupid and this rush of migrants in to the EU has given them a perfect way to get their fighters into mainland Europe. By this time next year we will have seen far more terrorist incidents than we have before and that any terrorist attacks will most likely be aimed at holiday locations within the EU.

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I would prefer they start in London and around number 10.

but yeh. we have opened a secret back door to let terrorists in to blow us all up.

but we're British and dumb.
even James Bond thinks we're thick.

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Do we expect anything less from these people? They've consistently tried to downplay the impact (social, economic or anything else) of what been going on as they sit their wringing their hands, having meetings about meetings. and propagating European 'unity'.

For me just as real a danger is going to be the countless disaffected thousands whose experience of 'acceptance' and a better life in the EU won't be at all what they'd hoped for. They're likely become disillusioned and extremely bitter (it's already happening) having often risked their lives and/or gambled everything to make their journeys. If these people aren't going to prove a very fertile recruiting ground for ISIS and others I'd be very surprised. No matter eh? I'm sure Europe will be just as effective dealing with the enemy it allowed within as it's proved dealing with the enemy without... :rolleyes:

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You have to wonder how many terrorists have got into the UK through this backdoor thing.
a few, tens, hundreds or thousands?
will they all be synchronised?
do you think it will be this side of Xmas when they announce their arrival with a bang?

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I presume I am one of the lefties you talk about?

There isn't much left to say is there? People post articles on here but the fundamental issue hasn't changed for months. There is a big problem and we don't know the solution. The migrants will keep coming and a crisis continues to develop.

But really, with the exception of maybe Osem who posts links to mainstream stuff, this thread is becoming increasingly more weird to the point where Hugh and Chris are dismissed as liberals, stuff about chemtrails and '5th Columnist Traitors' who are 'evil'. If I wanted to listen to paranoid ravings then Alex Jones is much better for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUEy55r49fY

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

Umm don't presume anything... it'll be made very clear if I call you something, it won't be subtle. No one was dismissed as anything by me. sounds more like a case of guilt conscience perhaps ?

As already stated thrice now. I'll be sure to name any lefty luvvies, there will be no misunderstanding. Until then don't presume anything, it diminishes you.

Re: Unstoppable migration?
 

I can just see the african heads of state welcoming the 1.3 billion euro's in"aid"."More stupid westerners giving us money"more new palaces,more mercedes,more swiss bank deposits more like.