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Whether it is fixed or not, those guys are huge athletes and train very hard. Put it this way look how big they are, it is not like they can't hurt you, would you fight one of them? Many wrestles have broken multiple bones and had horrendous injuries and put their body through things that would make a normal human cringe.

I stopped watching a long time ago, it may not be a sport but if you enjoy it it doesn't really matter.

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Because I was replying directly to a post about the use of the licence fee.

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I'm not blaming WWE for it being on Sky Sports, I'm merely saying it shouldn't be.

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There are posts on the internet suggesting that Sky are blocking this to stifle competition with Now TV. The suggestion is that their investment in Roku gives them that sort of clout. It does seem strange that Amazon Instant is on the US Roku. Netflix is there, but that was an existing app before Sky got involved with Roku.

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Could be the case who knows , I've also heard Roku are now looking for improved commercial deals with its channel owners so could as easily be that as I'd imagine Amazon would get high use meaning Roku may want a favourable deal.

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I know Apple are negotiating deals direct with Networks in both usa and uk i wonder if this is the route ROKU and possibly Google will take too.

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Historically because of the Lovefilm acquisition, Amazon's streaming in the UK was via different tech to that in the USA. While that's no longer the case it may also explain why it didn't appear on the Roku boxes.

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But Amazon Prime UK has been going long enough now for Roku to have ported the US app to a UK version if they wanted to.

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WWE network launch in uk has been postponed http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/wwe/...own_Match.html

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Interesting article about Netflix appearing on YouView , it also mentions talks to sign commercial agreements with BT and Talk Talk to bundle the service.

Story

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The video streaming site Netflix will release its first feature-length film next year after striking a deal with the Weinstein Company.

Story

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No mention of a subscription arrangement as part of a bundle with VM, which is frustrating.

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All i'm going to say is you may be pleasantly surprised.

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I'm sure it's coming, theone, but it takes so looooooong :sleep:

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Maybe from January next year? Just had an email to say that as a Virgin media/SamKnows Broadband panellist I will be getting 6 months free NetFlix from Jan' 2015 as a reward for running their SamKnows unit instead of the previous draws for Amazon vouchers we used to get entered in for.

I'm guessing if by then Virgin have NetFlix as a subscription option it will be easier for them to offer their panellists this? but obviously it could just be a total coincidence :D

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Now that would be nice UnStable!

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@UnStable, I got that email too.

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BSKYB and 21st Century Fox have made additional investments in Roku today.

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Trying to access "The Killing" (the American version) on Netflix, but can't seem to do it. Could someone else try and see if they can get it please? Everything else is available, but not that. :confused:

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uk or us? As don't know if i have right version here but is working ok on netflix usa.

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The UK version via the tivo app. It's just struck me that it may have been pulled because the story is about a teenage girl who is murdered and found in water, which is unfortunately topical!

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Just checked via my ROKU for you which is set to uk netflix and both versions are there, i tested a episode and it played no issues.

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Just checked and it's back now. Weird that, don't know what happened but thanks for your help anyway.

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Netflix chief Reed Hastings takes on telcos, cinemas and global expansion

Interesting read here

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BBC iPlayer shows now available for 30 days

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Any further updates on this mate?

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I am assuming the six months free is only for new customers to Virgin and us old customers only get the free month offer?

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You assume correctly!!

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Thanks

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Nothing concrete yet mate i've been told March 2015 will see Netflix roled out into the XL pack but my source doesn't have a very good track record i'm waiting for a couple of other sources to give me clarification on this.
One suggestion is netflix will be free for xl, £2p/m for L £3.99 for m+ and usual price for moretv and m.

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Blimey, if Netflix does get rolled out into the XL package, does that mean that I can still the website version? As I use the US region more on Netflix (on laptop and xBox). Never tried watching a whole show on the TiVo box through Netflix.

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You'll get the basic Netflix as standard which will allow access from pc etc however you'll only be allowed one stream at a time unless you upgrade to the relevant Netflix package.
This is all speculation at the moment i'm working hard to try and get some concrete information on it all.

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You must "do better" theone, we need you to use your influence to get us Atlantic, we will not accept anything less....;)

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Atlantic is coming on April 31st 2015 :D

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Chortle, chortle........:p:

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EE to launch TV set-top box

http://www.theguardian.com/business/...tv-set-top-box

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Aren't plusnet running tv trials too?

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Wonder why they'd need to, rather than just launch a version of the BT product with Plusnet branding (considering BT own them)

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I was thinking that tbf mate i know they offer bt sports now for £5p/m but you only get access via a sky box and no online access.
Ah found a link http://community.plus.net/blog/2013/...ts-tv-service/

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Just received a code from Virgin via email today for 6 months free on Netflix, and it says this................... Hurry, you’ve only got until the 30th September to redeem your code. Your 6 month gift will commence from the date you redeem it.......:D:D I tried to redeem the voucher on Netflix, and it says this....................Sorry, we are unable to process your request. Please try again later. :D

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HBO is planning to allow people to watch it's shows without the need of a cable sub it seems HBO is planning to let you watch it's shows without the need of cable in 2015 it seems.
I personally think this is a great idea.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/15/6...scription-2015

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Sounds good mate, what are the top shows on HBO? and would we in the UK be able to access it through Tivo?

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Will be interesting to see if we get it. I can not think of any objection sky will be able to raise.

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Some grat shows are Game of thrones, The leftovers, i like angry boys which is a Australian comedy. Also HBO has a lot of movies too for example some of the ones i've noticed this month on HBOGO are Prisoner, Ride along, Riddick amongst many others.
There is no info at the moment if it'll be on Tivo it's launching in USA first but plans to launch in other countries too at a later date.

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Edit i've added a couple of screenshots of my hbogo so you get a fair idea of what it's like.
The app is much better than the browser though imo.

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Isn't 40% of Sky Atlantic's content from HBO so a lot of those shows would not be available. And Sky Movies has a deal with all the Hollywood Studios so a lot of its film content would be unavailable too.
It will be interesting to see if it comes to the UK. Certainly, HBO's approach of being available on all networks via direct subscriptions in the US contrasts with its content largely being on one platform - Sky via Sky Atlantic - in the UK.

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I reported HBO was doing this last year if some of you remember?
Anyway what i think will happen if HBO launches in uk which i think it will, sky will probably have first run rights then HBO will just have the content via on demand like they do on HBOGo.
Sky do have many agreements with hollywood studios but this hasn't stopped the likes of film4, netflix and amazon getting first run rights to movies what HBO will do i think is show movies via on demand but i wouldn't expect any latest releases maybe it'll be movies that have already premiered on sky etc?
Either way this shows HBO are now taking the onlinetv industry very seriously and i think others will follow suite such as Showtime, starz etc.
Very exciting times ahead i think.

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Yes, I've commented on that previously. Is the fact that it's only on one provider in the UK, due to Sky taking advantage of HBO's greed?

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Both companies are trying to maximise their profits, call it greed, call it business.

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Now you mention it, yes.

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I'm going for greed ;)


The strange thing is, one of the HBO big wigs boasts about how GOT is the most illegally downloaded show and seems to revel in it, but limits the number of legal ways available to view it via streaming. Thankfully they seem to have woken up to the modern way of accessing media.

With the Sky deal in place, I think it will be a while before we get an official HBO streaming service in the UK.

Now TV provides a half baked way of doing it, but the lack of permanent back season availability and delays in showing new HBO shows and seasons, makes it a poor substitute IMHO.

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Whilst keeping GoT Sky Atlantic-only will encourage some downloading in the UK, it wouldn't be enough to make it the most illegally downloaded show worldwide so that's credit to the show itself. But I never think it's a great idea to alienate those who want to buy your content but can't.

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This, 100 times over, well said PB.

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Sky's current deal with HBO runs until 2020 , do you really think that many in the UK would pay for HBO content as a standalone sub can't see it myself.

Half baked or not Now TV still offers premium HBO content along with content from many other studios and for the price of £6.99 how much would you expect a HBO standalone offering to be ?

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Basing this on USA price it is $9.99p/m i believe in USA if they keep that same price structure when launched in uk it would be about £6.20.
The other option could be they launch a HBOGO service similar to HBOnordic which offers content from other providers too.
I think quite a few people will take the sub tbh, but i think Sky will probably get something like HBOGO included in a sub too.

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Are you going thru a VPN?

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Yes but also a friend has given me a login for their Verizon account too.

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Most providers are charging $17.99 -$19.99 for HBO , HBO On Demand and HBOGO. I'd be amazed if the UK gets a version whilst the Sky deal is in place but that's just my opinion.

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I'm still optimistic about that, but given the Sky exclusivity deal with HBO, the first run shows will have to be aired on Sky Atlantic first. The shows are likely then to be accessible on a PPV basis (as they are currently via Amazon Prime) for the following two years and after that could be part of an HBO subscription.

I don't see any reason why that wouldn't work and I would be happy to take an HBO streaming service on that basis via the TIVO.

I can wait to watch material under a subscription three years after becoming available as a new series on Sky Atlantic. After all, I'm a year behind watching my recordings!

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You are correct i've not long got of phone to my friend in the states and she has confirmed that she is only paying $9.99p/m as she is on a special offer for having showtime otherwise it'd be $19.99p/m which is crazy as it's $19.99p/m for both showtime and hbo anyway lol.

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But for anyone who is only interested in Premium US cable content from the likes of HBO, Starz and Showtime etc., Now TV is very poor compared to HBO Nordic, which is only £1.40 p/m more.

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I decided against getting Now TV when they pulled all the previous series of Game of Thrones when the new one started airing.

The programming available via streaming needs to be reliable - I don't want to start watching a series only to find it pulled, and I don't want to be locked in to a pre-set restricted period to view it either.

I much prefer the Netflix model. Watched Breaking Bad over a period of about three months and still haven't completed the first series of Orange is the New Black. I'm not happy at all with watching programmes back to back although I know some enjoy doing so.

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Spot on mate, i think this is how HBO will launch HBOGO globally by doing a similar service to HBOnordic.

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Sounds good. Let's hope it comes to TIVO sooner rather than later!

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This is where a proper HBO service would be different (based on how they operate in the Nordic region); all back seasons are always available and new episodes are available the day after they aired in the states.

It is such a shame that Sky have the rights tied up for such a long period, as in my view, it will prevent a proper HBO service launching in the UK for a long time.

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And how many in the UK actually know anything about HBO Nordic ? Very few I'd say.

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I totally agree with the arrangement in your first paragraph.

As far as Sky rights are concerned, my understanding is that the exclusivity only relates to first run shows. This means that once the new series has been shown, they would be available to other platforms.

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I was purely comparing the services. The UK needs an HBO service such as HBO Nordic as it is clearly better than Now TV for premium cable content. I fear that Sky's long term deal with HBO will prevent that and leave us with the inferior Now TV version for a long time. I sincerely hope that I am wrong on this.

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It would make sense to do it that way and I hope you are right.

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What's the whole spotify offer? It appears in "offers" but offers me the opportunity to link my account to spotify (what is the point?) and states there are no deals currently. I don't even see why vm were advertising spotify?

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If you were HBO, would you prefer a) guaranteed income over 7 years from a single company who handle everything for you in a particular territory and are paying a premium for exclusivity or b) implementing IPTV technology, billing systems, customer support, marketing and everything else needed to go it alone?

Maybe also worth pointing out that HBO Nordic is in partnership with and delivered by a local company with extensive pay TV experience in that market.

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CBS are doing the same?

http://crackberry.com/cbs-launches-a...out-need-cable

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Nice find just had a peek and it will cost $5.99p/m i think more networks will follow suite and i can see companies such as uktv in the uk starting similar services in the future too.

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Cool. If all companies follow suite, in 5 years time I could see VM/TIVO offering customers tv packages (as they currently stand) or an app based streaming service package with the free TV package. I, for one, would happily drop my XL TV package (and the vast amount of dross shown on it) and choose and pay for what streaming services I would prefer to watch.

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Considering I watch content on a multitude of channels from numerous US studios ie ABC , NBC , Fox , HBO , Showtime , The CW etc this kind of pricing would probably cost me a whole lot more than the current pay TV bundles , it may be suitable for some people sadly I'm not sure I'm one.

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I think the companies will continue working with providers going by what HBO are saying they said they basically intend to work with it's current partners but the aim of going solo is there are 80 million households in the US without HBO and they want to basically get as many as they can.

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This is a big reason why HBO have previously resisted a streaming service (independent of a cable subscription) in the US. The increasing popularity of 'Cord Cutting' has changed the landscape.

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YouView finally gets BBC Connected Red Button plus 30 day iPlayer catch-ups

Link

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Regarding WWE Network this post from Dspy is rather interesting it basically states that WWE Network will never be part of Skys programming.
<--- that link will take you direct to Skys WWE forums.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...postcount=1635

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I wonder what the delay is then? Wwe begging sky to change their mind?

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Just seen this post, Steve. I guess that the reason that b) in this country might be more attractive to HBO is that it will be able to reach more of its audience and reduce piracy by making its programmes available to all those who want to subscribe.

HBO must be reducing its ability to make money by putting all its eggs in Sky's basket.

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Its called selling out for the big buck.

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No idea mate i'm trying to find out i will ofcourse provide updates once i get information.

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As from Friday Vince,I had been unable to access my Spotify Premium account on any of my 5 devices via Virgin and kept getting messages to upgrade to Premium. After being on the phone for 50 minutes and passed around 5 CS ops (between uk and India and back again) they finally told me that the partnership between Spotify and Virgin Media has now ended.

I have now started my Premium account directly with Spotify.

Why don't they tell their customers this in advance? Yet another example of lack of communication between Virgin Media and their customers. :mad:

Same here, although it was Saturday when we lost Spotify.
Called up Sunday, Scottish guy who had to find out from his manager that VM don't offer Spotify anymore.
I haven't had any warning of this, which is really bad from VM.
Also my bill had just generated so I am being charged £9.99 for next month.

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The first guy I spoke to was scottish and while I was talking I was cut off! He and another CS Op tried to blame it on a broadband outage which was BS considering I couldn't get Spotify on my mobile through my date.

After the call finished I noticed on my desktop Spotify app that there was a message that the partnership with Virgin Media had ended with a link to pay them directly.

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I think Steve's point is that the premium which HBO is able to charge Sky for exclusitivity more than makes up for the reduction in potential viewers by not being on more platforms.

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A new streaming stick out from Amazon in the US. Looks quite powerful.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2014/...le-chromecast/

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Much as I hate to admit it, if HBO launched a streaming version in the UK and dumped the Sky deal, I think HBO would see their UK income down by many millions of pounds.

Given that they can't dump the Sky deal for several years, it's academic anyway.

When the Sky deal does expire, streaming will be more popular, but I still wouldn't rule out another HBO/Sky deal at that point.

I think Sky want it for 'up-market' prestige and a perceived USP and don't care if the number of viewers they get doesn't justify the cost.

I don't think there is a big enough demand for the HBO type of gritty show in the UK, otherwise, why would Channel 5 have dropped such shows as Justified and Sons of Anarchy?

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I have just checked on my Apps page on My Virgin Media and my Spotify is still showing as Premium that im on.

also had no problems with using Spotify but they do seem to be with Virgin 1 month then gone again so not sure whats going on with them.

Also on my Spotify account page this is message i get

Subscription status
You are currently using Spotify Premium. Your account is associated with our partner Virgin Media, please refer to Virgin Media for questions regarding your subscription.

so it seems that they are still with Virgin.

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Stepping aside from technology, HBO Go would effecctively be a stand-alone drama channel albeit one with the possible benefit of box set archives. Stand-alone channels have worked well for films and sport but I'm unaware of any for drama. People subscribe to sports channels pretty much regardless of how their teams are performing but if HBO had a poor season of drama I could see people cancelling quite quickly.

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HBO must have a large back-catalogue by now. That alone might be worth subscribing to.

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when i checked on apps there were no offers on spotify? is it back on again?

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I can see Sky still having first run exclusives for many years, with the episodes moving to HBO Go after a certain period of time.
I fail to see why Sky and HBO will cancel their arrangement after the newest deal runs out. IF HBO Go launches over here, it will simply give non-Sky subscribers a cheaper and easier way of watching their back catalogue.
I can't see it effecting Sky too much, it will only really hurt Sky if they lose the first run exclusivity or the rights to have the on-demand stuff on Sky too. Like PB says, HBO would probably lose a fair chunk of money if they cancelled their Sky deal. So I can see them keeping the deal with Sky as it stands, and also possibly making more money from possible launching HBO Go.

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I don't think I'm alone in these forums when I say that I would like to watch more HBO material.

I would like to see them offer either a channel with past productions on it, with a red button facility to more recent pay per view material, or alternatively a subscription streaming service with the most recent material being PPV.

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Exactly, yes, although I can see HBO being popular for some time to come!

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Yes, Sky's deal runs to 2020, but the exclusivity is only for the first run stuff. HBO can only benefit from adding a subscription channel and/or streaming service in the UK without breaching Sky's contract.

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If HBO entered the streaming service game they'd have to make the pricing pretty competitive i.e. much cheaper than Now TV which offers HBO content and more.

I certainly wouldn't be subscribing to an HBO only service unless it offered me something more than I already get.

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I haven't actually seen the content of the Now Tv box but I think I'm right in saying that it doesn't provided the complete back catalogue of programmes we have been talking about here.

I was tempted by Now Tv until I realised that programmes were pulled with little notice - this is no good for me. If we could have a more stable system in terms of programmes remaining on the site for a good period of time (like Netflix), together with first run PPV, I would be more than happy. I would also rather have everything on my TIVO rather than have to purchase alternative equipment.

So a subscription service through Virgin Media would be perfect for me.

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Thanks awfully for rewording my post. Cheers.

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Rupert Murdoch urges media firms to unite to fight Amazon and Netflix.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...netflix-amazon

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I was agreeing with you, Harry, and also making the point clear for those who may be a bit confused about this. ;)

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I'm sure they have our best interests at heart :shocked:

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What? Mr Murdoch wants a bit of competition?

Well blow me down. :shocked: However, glad to see he's catching up. :rolleyes:

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WWE network will be available in UK from November 18th you can sign up on November 3rd and it will be free during November.
Also they are scrapping the 6 month commitment too it will now be $9.99p/m on a month by month basis.
The WWE Network will cost the equivalant of $9.99p/m which works out at about £6.20p/m, i have included a screenshot of the email i got from WWE.

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He only wants competition when it suits his interests.