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Dave42 13-10-2013 17:11
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631537)
The reason is that there are some good US dramas on there - better quality than on Universal.

However, I do concede, as I always have, that most of the programming I would not watch! But that is the way with digital channels. Mainly rubbish, but with one or two good programmes in a season.

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Oh, Dave, there really is no hope for you! Hope you've got your pants at the ready, soon be time to scoff them. We expect you to swallow!
ahem OB and where did I say I eat them I never ever did im not Mr Stokes you know

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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631553)
You are quite adament we wont get the missing channels from Sky but you are most looking forward to Sky Sports News?
SSN HD and sky news HD im sure we get cant see any of the other ones coming as said lots of time day we get them day sky lose lots of customers to VM sky don't want to lose customers

theone2k10 13-10-2013 17:14
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Originally Posted by devilincarnate (Post 35631567)
Why is he cooking your tea:D:D:D
Comment of the day :D:D:D

ocav 13-10-2013 17:16
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631573)
ahem OB and where did I say I eat them I never ever did im not Mr Stokes you know

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SSN HD and sky news HD im sure we get cant see any of the other ones coming as said lots of time day we get them day sky lose lots of customers to VM sky don't want to lose customers
Ive said it before, I doubt Sky will loose customers, it will just mean consumers will have a choice based on whats more cost effective for them, a lot of people cant get Virgin, a lot cant get Sky.

Personally having choice based down to cost will be a lot better for the companies and the consumers. Not only will it challenge the companies to be better and not have a "this is what we do, put up and shut up" attitude, but it will also help drive costs down.

Dave42 13-10-2013 17:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631579)
Ive said it before, I doubt Sky will loose customers, it will just mean consumers will have a choice based on whats more cost effective for them, a lot of people cant get Virgin, a lot cant get Sky.

Personally having choice based down to cost will be a lot better for the companies and the consumers. Not only will it challenge the companies to be better and not have a "this is what we do, put up and shut up" attitude, but it will also help drive costs down.
of course sky will lose customers as VM much better value than sky it a no brainer better box better BB and bt sports free in XL did you not see chad post about it when sky was asking there customers lots will move to VM.

Sky want people to chose them and pay for the boxes and HD charge they not gonna give VM the withheld channels and lose their own customers

maybe we should ask the sky customers on here it they would change if sky give VM the withheld channels

howardmicks 13-10-2013 18:21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631580)
of course sky will lose customers as VM much better value than sky it a no brainer better box better BB and bt sports free in XL did you not see chad post about it when sky was asking there customers lots will move to VM.

Sky want people to chose them and pay for the boxes and HD charge they not gonna give VM the withheld channels and lose their own customers

maybe we should ask the sky customers on here it they would change if sky give VM the withheld channels
Well I'm a sky and vm customer and hopefully juggle a few figures next sept and wrangle a couple of deals and I will stay with both,you will allways have people who prefer one to the other and end of day it's down to best deals bud.sky have milked sky Atlantic for 3 years and did aquire some vm customers at first but certainly not now,I have a lot of friends who have had problems with either company and said they will never go back.dont forget not everywhere can get cable and of course some places are not able to have a satellite attached to there wall.personally the only channels I can see sky keeping hold of is sky sports 3+4 and sky Atlantic hd,I can see the adverts now only available on hd thru sky !!!!!!!!!!!;)

Dave42 13-10-2013 18:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35631604)
Well I'm a sky and vm customer and hopefully juggle a few figures next sept and wrangle a couple of deals and I will stay with both,you will allways have people who prefer one to the other and end of day it's down to best deals bud.sky have milked sky Atlantic for 3 years and did aquire some vm customers at first but certainly not now,I have a lot of friends who have had problems with either company and said they will never go back.dont forget not everywhere can get cable and of course some places are not able to have a satellite attached to there wall.personally the only channels I can see sky keeping hold of is sky sports 3+4 and sky Atlantic hd,I can see the adverts now only available on hd thru sky !!!!!!!!!!!;)
yes I know you got both Howard mate and yes know VM not everywhere you got best of both worlds lucky swine :LOL:

if sky give VM all the withheld channels would you dump sky completely mate

howardmicks 13-10-2013 19:56
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[QUOTE=Dave42;35631611]
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35631604)
Well I'm a sky and vm customer and hopefully juggle a few figures next sept and wrangle a couple of deals and I will stay with both,you will allways have people who prefer one to the other and end of day it's down to best deals bud.sky have milked sky Atlantic for 3 years and did aquire some vm customers at first but certainly not now,I have a lot of friends who have had problems with either company and said they will never go back.dont forget not everywhere can get cable and of course some places are not able to have a satellite attached to there wall.personally the only channels I can see sky keeping hold of is sky sports 3+4 and sky Atlantic hd,I can see the adverts now only available on hd thru sky !!!!!!!!!!!;)[/QUOTE

yes I know you got both Howard mate and yes know VM not everywhere you got best of both worlds lucky swine :LOL:

if sky give VM all the withheld channels would you dump sky completely mate
Nope bud,both sides have upped there game and both have made major changes.channels wouldn't sway me either way cost and discounts as i have said in previous post if I can get a good deal off both and juggle packages next year I will keep both.im lucky at min as sky is free,Im gonna struggle to part with either.:confused:

Dave42 13-10-2013 20:06
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[QUOTE=howardmicks;35631630]
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631611)
Nope bud,both sides have upped there game and both have made major changes.channels wouldn't sway me either way cost and discounts as i have said in previous post if I can get a good deal off both and juggle packages next year I will keep both.im lucky at min as sky is free,Im gonna struggle to part with either.:confused:
yes I agree both have upped game but one thing is absolutely certain prices will keep going up

Chad 13-10-2013 20:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631635)

yes I agree both have upped game but one thing is absolutely certain prices will keep going up
That's why it's best to play the market. 50% off SKY for a year codes are out and about once more:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/sho...ky-cheap-cable

howardmicks 13-10-2013 20:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35631636)
That's why it's best to play the market. 50% off SKY for a year codes are out and about once more:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/sho...ky-cheap-cable
Yer I have noticed that bud,think I have best deal at min sky free and vm half price.sadly only for 12 months :(

Dave42 13-10-2013 20:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35631636)
That's why it's best to play the market. 50% off SKY for a year codes are out and about once more:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/sho...ky-cheap-cable
would lose too much so not a option for me even with 50% off as you know I very nearly did that earlier this year family would not move glad they wouldn't in end would have lost too much

ocav 13-10-2013 20:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631635)
yes I agree both have upped game but one thing is absolutely certain prices will keep going up
But if the channel is available on VM, Sky can use that money as leverage against customers. Currently the cheapest way to get all the channels (non premium) is not decided, they are both the same price.

Add premium to that mix, Sky Movies, Sky Sports or both minus BT Sport, it's Sky

Add BT Sport, it's Virgin.

Both have their highlights in the TV market.

Regards Broadband, Sky Fibre can match the lowest available broadband speed on Virgin, which for some people is more than enough, and I believe (without line rental) it's cheaper from Sky.

Whereas Virgin can beat them if you want 120mb broadband.

I'm not really a sports fan, so personally all the channels and Sky Movies means by best offer is Sky, however I like fast broadband meaning my best deal is actually to have BB from Virgin and TV from Sky. I also have a dedicated line from BT for work purposes so don't really need the Broadband from Virgin.

The dedicated line is quite unreliable, so I leave personal things to my Virgin Broadband and work things to the dedicated line.

My best deal is to have a mix of both, however I was given a good offer by Virgin to get my tv and phone from them. If Sky could offer the same I would probably switch to them.

It's not about the channels, it's about the cost at the end of they day.

howardmicks 13-10-2013 21:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631668)
But if the channel is available on VM, Sky can use that money as leverage against customers. Currently the cheapest way to get all the channels (non premium) is not decided, they are both the same price.

Add premium to that mix, Sky Movies, Sky Sports or both minus BT Sport, it's Sky

Add BT Sport, it's Virgin.

Both have their highlights in the TV market.

Regards Broadband, Sky Fibre can match the lowest available broadband speed on Virgin, which for some people is more than enough, and I believe (without line rental) it's cheaper from Sky.

Whereas Virgin can beat them if you want 120mb broadband.

I'm not really a sports fan, so personally all the channels and Sky Movies means by best offer is Sky, however I like fast broadband meaning my best deal is actually to have BB from Virgin and TV from Sky. I also have a dedicated line from BT for work purposes so don't really need the Broadband from Virgin.

The dedicated line is quite unreliable, so I leave personal things to my Virgin Broadband and work things to the dedicated line.

My best deal is to have a mix of both, however I was given a good offer by Virgin to get my tv and phone from them. If Sky could offer the same I would probably switch to them.

It's not about the channels, it's about the cost at the end of they day.
Post of the day !!!! bang on and I think both sky and vm now reliise that ;)

Dave42 13-10-2013 22:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631668)
But if the channel is available on VM, Sky can use that money as leverage against customers. Currently the cheapest way to get all the channels (non premium) is not decided, they are both the same price.

Add premium to that mix, Sky Movies, Sky Sports or both minus BT Sport, it's Sky

Add BT Sport, it's Virgin.

Both have their highlights in the TV market.

Regards Broadband, Sky Fibre can match the lowest available broadband speed on Virgin, which for some people is more than enough, and I believe (without line rental) it's cheaper from Sky.

Whereas Virgin can beat them if you want 120mb broadband.

I'm not really a sports fan, so personally all the channels and Sky Movies means by best offer is Sky, however I like fast broadband meaning my best deal is actually to have BB from Virgin and TV from Sky. I also have a dedicated line from BT for work purposes so don't really need the Broadband from Virgin.

The dedicated line is quite unreliable, so I leave personal things to my Virgin Broadband and work things to the dedicated line.

My best deal is to have a mix of both, however I was given a good offer by Virgin to get my tv and phone from them. If Sky could offer the same I would probably switch to them.

It's not about the channels, it's about the cost at the end of they day.
sky would lose customers so would lose money for HD charge and paying for the boxes ect

ocav 13-10-2013 22:18
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35631695)
sky would lose customers so would lose money for HD charge and paying for the boxes ect
But if you read my post... The money from VM can be used in leverage to reduce subscription costs, driving in more customers who love a bargain

Bananaman_007 13-10-2013 22:19
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If Sky were to give up Atlantic and VM were to get free Netflix in XL i can see a lot of people switching. I know my brother is waiting for VM to get Atlantic before he switches. The Netflix thing is just a further sweetener for him (if true)

Dave42 13-10-2013 22:39
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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631703)
But if you read my post... The money from VM can be used in leverage to reduce subscription costs, driving in more customers who love a bargain
no way will the price drop they be going up as always

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35631705)
If Sky were to give up Atlantic and VM were to get free Netflix in XL i can see a lot of people switching. I know my brother is waiting for VM to get Atlantic before he switches. The Netflix thing is just a further sweetener for him (if true)
exactly sky know this and why we not get the withheld channels only ones we got chance of is SSN HD and sky news HD

howardmicks 13-10-2013 22:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35631705)
If Sky were to give up Atlantic and VM were to get free Netflix in XL i can see a lot of people switching. I know my brother is waiting for VM to get Atlantic before he switches. The Netflix thing is just a further sweetener for him (if true)
So if sky offered him a 12 month half price deal on a full package to stay .he would say no because vm have now got sky Atlantic and Netflix :confused:

theone2k10 14-10-2013 01:32
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Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35631729)
So if sky offered him a 12 month half price deal on a full package to stay .he would say no because vm have now got sky Atlantic and Netflix :confused:
<edited> i'm drunk ignore me lol i was saying i just decided to take that sky offer up as works out cheaper for movies and sport so by keeping my deal with vm xl tv , bb60mbs , phone for £45p/m and adding sky tv with their entertainment pack , movies , sports for £25p/m works out at a £9p/m saving if i took movies and sport with vm.
If gets a bit too much i can always drop down to vm starter pack.

staffs lad 64 14-10-2013 03:34
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Originally Posted by citizenx (Post 35631344)
We use Now TV boxes and get great quality pictures and sound.

On some occasions we'll be watching on two boxes whilst other devices are downloading updates or streaming from other services.

We've never had a single problem.
ive got the now tv box, the movies look good but sky sports is very poor

nstokes 14-10-2013 09:01
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So ive been away from home for a few days, what i miss? Whats this about a rumour ban?

denphone 14-10-2013 10:34
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Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35631810)
Whats this about a rumour ban?
Its a load of nonsense in my opinion.

TAZMANUK 14-10-2013 10:38
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Their is no rumours ban VM would have stopped these threads months ago unless LG who now have the keys have an issue but im sure theyd make an official statement.

See BenMCRs comment on the other topic explains it all.

Think MB needs to just Keep Calm Keep Up The Coming soon simplez

vincerooney 14-10-2013 11:23
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Morning friends and squires. Another week on cable forum ahead. I doubt it can beat the drama of last week though! I wonder if we'll get any channels this week

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 11:55
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New Rumour:

My Rumour poster has told me a deal has been struck between Sky and Virgin for Sky Atlantic and Sky Atlantic HD.

Both are expected to launch at some point in the Autumn possibly as early as end of October.

Sky Atlantic will be in the M+ package with Sky Atlantic HD being in the XL pack.

These will launch at same time as the other Sky channels aka Sky News HD etc.

denphone 14-10-2013 11:57
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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631841)
New Rumour:

My Rumour poster has told me a deal has been struck between Sky and Virgin for Sky Atlantic and Sky Atlantic HD.

Both are expected to launch at some point in the Autumn possibly as early as end of October.

Sky Atlantic will be in the M+ package with Sky Atlantic HD being in the XL pack.

These will launch at same time as the other Sky channels aka Sky News HD etc.
No surprise with this news as it has been in the offing for months.

Dave42 14-10-2013 12:01
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35631842)
No surprise with this news as it has been in the offing for months.
well lets hope it happens Den like I have always said I be very happy to be proved wrong on this

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 12:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631841)
New Rumour:

My Rumour poster has told me a deal has been struck between Sky and Virgin for Sky Atlantic and Sky Atlantic HD.

Both are expected to launch at some point in the Autumn possibly as early as end of October.

Sky Atlantic will be in the M+ package with Sky Atlantic HD being in the XL pack.

These will launch at same time as the other Sky channels aka Sky News HD etc.
Updates an other Rumour poster think Sky Atlantic will only launch on Virgin Media when Sky Atlantic launches on 'Now TV'.

Mr Banana 14-10-2013 12:13
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Sky have agreed to let BT have access to their movie channels apparently, so looks like they are starting to relax a bit in terms of allowing other approaches

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 12:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Top banana (Post 35631846)
Sky have agreed to let BT have access to their movie channels apparently
From October 26th.

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I am thinking about launching an 'Virgin Media rumours thread' later today.

anap 14-10-2013 12:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631841)
New Rumour:

My Rumour poster has told me a deal has been struck between Sky and Virgin for Sky Atlantic and Sky Atlantic HD.

Both are expected to launch at some point in the Autumn possibly as early as end of October.

Sky Atlantic will be in the M+ package with Sky Atlantic HD being in the XL pack.

These will launch at same time as the other Sky channels aka Sky News HD etc.
That will be January now that you've mentioned it! :)

ocav 14-10-2013 12:33
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Good news on the Sky Atlantic rumour. If movies are to launch on BT on 26th, it would be a good time for a Now TV Entertainment and Atlantic on VM launch. Especially for Sky as both companies will make a song and dance about Movies and Atlantic, while Sky can just sit back and watch consumers see the prices while flogging 50% off coupons at them!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631848)
From October 26th.

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I am thinking about launching an 'Virgin Media rumours thread' later today.
No point in a new thread, maybe just when the next coming soon thread launches maybe add rumour in the title. What's the new thread going to be for? To me it will be a duplicate of this one

muppetman11 14-10-2013 12:42
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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631853)
while Sky can just sit back and watch consumers see the prices while flogging 50% off coupons at them!
Sounds a brilliant business model chuck everyone a 50% off voucher

blue666666 14-10-2013 12:48
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any news on sky 3D media boy. keep up the good work

passingbat 14-10-2013 12:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631848)
From October 26th.

---------- Post added at 11:28 ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 ----------

I am thinking about launching an 'Virgin Media rumours thread' later today.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631853)

No point in a new thread, maybe just when the next coming soon thread launches maybe add rumour in the title. What's the new thread going to be for? To me it will be a duplicate of this one
Agreed IMHO, no point in launching a new thread; it would just be a duplicate of this one.

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 12:57
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Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35631857)
any news on sky 3D media boy. keep up the good work
I really do not know what channels Virgin and Sky are in talks over.

Rumours now say deal has been signed.

freakgirl 14-10-2013 12:58
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I wonder if sky atlantic is coming if it will launch the same day as netflix rolls out to everyone

blue666666 14-10-2013 12:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631861)
I really do not know what channels Virgin and Sky are in talks over.

Rumours now say deal has been signed.
fingers crossed then.

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 13:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631853)
No point in a new thread, maybe just when the next coming soon thread launches maybe add rumour in the title. What's the new thread going to be for? To me it will be a duplicate of this one
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35631860)
Agreed IMHO, no point in launching a new thread; it would just be a duplicate of this one.
Just thinking about it.

andy_m 14-10-2013 13:15
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WSJ is reporting that Netflix are now in talks with several US cable operators to put their app on stbs in deals similar to those they've announced with Virgin and Com hem in Sweden. An interesting point to note is that there appears to have been a recent carriage dispute between one of the cable companies (comcast I think) and cbs. The report suggests that if a deal with Netflix had already been in place it would have given the cable company greater leverage in the negotiations because they would have been able to point their customers in the direction of all the cbs content they carry through their association with Netflix.

It's something I hadn't considered, but I wonder if the inclusion of Netflix on Virgin's platform will put them in a stronger position when it comes to negotiating carriage agreements with channels who's content is also available through the app?

muppetman11 14-10-2013 13:20
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Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35631871)
WSJ is reporting that Netflix are now in talks with several US cable operators to put their app on stbs in deals similar to those they've announced with Virgin and Com hem in Sweden. An interesting point to note is that there appears to have been a recent carriage dispute between one of the cable companies (comcast I think) and cbs. The report suggests that if a deal with Netflix had already been in place it would have given the cable company greater leverage in the negotiations because they would have been able to point their customers in the direction of all the cbs content they carry through their association with Netflix.

It's something I hadn't considered, but I wonder if the inclusion of Netflix on Virgin's platform will put them in a stronger position when it comes to negotiating carriage agreements with channels who's content is also available through the app?
Good point , I reckon its certainly made Sky Movies look to strengthen their position hence their expansion onto the BT Platform , there's been a lot of talk about Netflix launching an app on YouView so maybe Sky's tried to get in there first although to be fair I guess they already have Now TV available on there.

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 13:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35631871)
WSJ is reporting that Netflix are now in talks with several US cable operators to put their app on stbs in deals similar to those they've announced with Virgin and Com hem in Sweden. An interesting point to note is that there appears to have been a recent carriage dispute between one of the cable companies (comcast I think) and cbs. The report suggests that if a deal with Netflix had already been in place it would have given the cable company greater leverage in the negotiations because they would have been able to point their customers in the direction of all the cbs content they carry through their association with Netflix.

It's something I hadn't considered, but I wonder if the inclusion of Netflix on Virgin's platform will put them in a stronger position when it comes to negotiating carriage agreements with channels who's content is also available through the app?
Absolutely, and I think this is what may have led the Competition Commission to conclude that with Netflix on the scene, there is no need to regulate Sky in relation to their exclusivity deals.

I am speculating here, but I think that Virgin's ability to stream programmes from Netflix is forcing a re-think from Sky, and this is part of the reason for them relaxing their position on Sky Atlantic.

It's all looking good.

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 13:30
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As of October 14th no new channels has been confirmed as launching on Virgin Media this week.

I was told by an other insider last week that News 18 was set to launch by October 18th.

spiderplant 14-10-2013 13:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by freakgirl (Post 35631864)
I wonder if sky atlantic is coming if it will launch the same day as netflix rolls out to everyone
Netflix won't roll out to everyone on a single day. It will take a few weeks.

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 13:39
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Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35631668)

It's not about the channels, it's about the cost at the end of they day.
I think it's all about the content. Linear channels I think will be in a long term decline soon as alternative methods of viewing content gain traction.

When we first got cable, we were wowed by the 20 or so additional channels available to us. Then we went digital and were bowled over by 100s of extra channels. Then in came video on demand, which was fantastic and started to change the way people watched TV - gradually at first, but now a significant majority use VOD on a regular basis. Now in comes Netflix. You can see where this is all leading, can't you?

I predict that within the next decade, the majority of all viewing by cable customers at least will no longer be through linear channels.

johnasimmons 14-10-2013 13:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631841)
New Rumour:

My Rumour poster has told me a deal has been struck between Sky and Virgin for Sky Atlantic and Sky Atlantic HD.

Both are expected to launch at some point in the Autumn possibly as early as end of October.

Sky Atlantic will be in the M+ package with Sky Atlantic HD being in the XL pack.

These will launch at same time as the other Sky channels aka Sky News HD etc.
:clap: :clap:

theone2k10 14-10-2013 14:15
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If you switch on your tivo tomorrow you may be in for a big surprise ;) because tomorrows the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

Dr Gonzo 14-10-2013 14:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631841)
New Rumour:

My Rumour poster has told me a deal has been struck between Sky and Virgin for Sky Atlantic and Sky Atlantic HD.

Both are expected to launch at some point in the Autumn possibly as early as end of October.

Sky Atlantic will be in the M+ package with Sky Atlantic HD being in the XL pack.

These will launch at same time as the other Sky channels aka Sky News HD etc.
This is great news if true, but I am hoping that they have negotiated the full SA back catalogue for VM's on demand section. That will make it a top addition for 2013.

Has anything been said about adding SA On Demand with VM?

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 14:17
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Gonzo (Post 35631893)
This is great news if true, but I am hoping that they have negotiated the full SA back catalogue for VM's on demand section. That will make it a top addition for 2013.

Has anything been said about adding SA On Demand with VM?
Seen no news about on Demand.

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 14:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35631891)
If you switch on your tivo tomorrow you may be in for a big surprise ;) because tomorrows the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
Care to elaborate? Or give us a clue? Is it really a big surprise (like the Sky channels or Netflix) or a tiny surprise (like a +1 shopping channel)?

Russ 14-10-2013 14:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Take this for what it is - just a rumour at the moment.

I've just been sent a PM from a usually-reliable source that said VM may be starting Netflix in some areas tonight. No idea what time or in which areas.

Also Netflix should launch (when it's official) with a major tivo update. Apparently no channels will officially launch tonight though.

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 14:20
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35631898)
Take this for what it is - just a rumour at the moment.

I've just been sent a PM from a usually-reliable source that said VM may be starting Netflix in some areas tonight. No idea what time or in which areas.
Ah-ha! So that was what TheOne was talking about! Bet my area will be last!

theone2k10 14-10-2013 14:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631897)
Care to elaborate? Or give us a clue? Is it really a big surprise (like the Sky channels or Netflix) or a tiny surprise (like a +1 shopping channel)?
Not sky channels but russ has basically just said what i've been texted not so long ago :)

Risco 14-10-2013 14:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35631891)
If you switch on your tivo tomorrow you may be in for a big surprise ;) because tomorrows the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
TiVo update by any chance?

Russ 14-10-2013 14:22
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631899)
Ah-ha! So that was what TheOne was talking about! Bet my area will be last!
Nothing should be taken as 100% so don't set your mind on it yet.

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 14:24
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
It's getting exciting now. I'll have to take something to calm myself down!

vincerooney 14-10-2013 14:26
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
No doubt the north west of england will be the last to get the update as per usual so i'll assume this potential launch tonight will not include me!

theone2k10 14-10-2013 14:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35631907)
No doubt the north west of england will be the last to get the update as per usual so i'll assume this potential launch tonight will not include me!
From what i got told all areas will be updated but my source thinks it will be the Telewest areas first then NTL will follow next week.
Don't take this as fact though.

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 14:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35631907)
No doubt the north west of england will be the last to get the update as per usual so i'll assume this potential launch tonight will not include me!
Steady now, Vince, I'm sure they will remember you!

theone2k10 14-10-2013 14:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631905)
It's getting exciting now. I'll have to take something to calm myself down!
You can have one of my tablets if you like? They'll calm you down alright although you won't wake up until tomorrow :D

bamav 14-10-2013 14:32
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35631911)
You can have one of my tablets if you like? They'll calm you down alright although you won't wake up until tomorrow :D
Ah! Almost thought that was a tablet as in iPad reference, able to watch Netflix!

denphone 14-10-2013 14:36
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35631891)
If you switch on your tivo tomorrow you may be in for a big surprise ;) because tomorrows the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
Is Paddington invited to the picnic.:)

vincerooney 14-10-2013 14:38
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631910)
Steady now, Vince, I'm sure they will remember you!
Haha they should but I always am one of the last! I remember NGTV! That was a painful wait!

denphone 14-10-2013 14:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35631907)
No doubt the north west of england will be the last to get the update as per usual so i'll assume this potential launch tonight will not include me!
No its down here in deepest Devon where it usually comes last of all Vince.

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 14:39
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35631898)
Take this for what it is - just a rumour at the moment.

I've just been sent a PM from a usually-reliable source that said VM may be starting Netflix in some areas tonight. No idea what time or in which areas.

Also Netflix should launch (when it's official) with a major tivo update. Apparently no channels will officially launch tonight though.
Oh well thanks for info - but look like an early night for me tonight.

Russ 14-10-2013 14:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631918)
Oh well thanks for info - but look like an early night for me tonight.
Quote:
Apparently no channels will *officially* launch tonight though.
;)

ocav 14-10-2013 14:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Don't think it will be the Netflix/TiVo update.

Those in testing areas were informed by post to leave their TiVo boxes on to ensure the update came through. I think we will know well ahead of time regards the netflix rollout

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 14:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35631898)
Take this for what it is - just a rumour at the moment.

I've just been sent a PM from a usually-reliable source that said VM may be starting Netflix in some areas tonight. No idea what time or in which areas.

Also Netflix should launch (when it's official) with a major tivo update. Apparently no channels will officially launch tonight though.
Do you know what the major updates on TIVO are all about, or are they just updates to ensure the Netflix app will work?

Russ 14-10-2013 14:52
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631923)
Do you know what the major updates on TIVO are all about, or are they just updates to ensure the Netflix app will work?
Nope, no idea. I haven't been told whether the updates are functional, visual or anything else. To be honest I've more or less and copied and pasted the PMs I had. I know as much as you do at this point.

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 14:53
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
OK, thanks Russ

harry_hitch 14-10-2013 14:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Oh yeah, speculation in abundance. Lets hope we get something confirmed later. :-) Cheers to all for posting!!

OLD BOY 14-10-2013 14:56
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35631928)
Oh yeah, speculation in abundance. Lets hope we get something confirmed later. :-) Cheers to all for posting!!
Did someone rattle your cage, harry?;)

Russ 14-10-2013 14:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35631928)
Oh yeah, speculation in abundance. Lets hope we get something confirmed later. :-) Cheers to all for posting!!
This is why I clearly stated it's only a rumour.

spiderplant 14-10-2013 15:08
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631923)
Do you know what the major updates on TIVO are all about, or are they just updates to ensure the Netflix app will work?
See http://community.virginmedia.com/t5/...m-p/1985062#M8

RobboEdin 14-10-2013 15:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35631935)
The TiVo update is basically what the US TiVo got last October.

denphone 14-10-2013 15:30
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Trust SP to be a shining light in a sea of fog.

harry_hitch 14-10-2013 15:34
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35631930)
Did someone rattle your cage, harry?;)
Nope, just genuinely enjoy the speculation on here:). I guess it is about 80-90% accurate. I know some people do not like the speculation, but I think thread comes alive when people speculate and/or post rumours about what may or may not happen.

Apologies if my last post came across as negative. That was far from the case.

Whilst I doubt I would watch massive amounts of content from Netflix, I am really looking forward to it's arrival in the not too distant future. :)

I am gonna sit back and hopefully enjoy the rest of the day (and speculation) on here!!

MutleyF 14-10-2013 15:35
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35631943)
Nope, just genuinely enjoy the speculation on here:). I guess it is about 80-90% accurate. I know some people do not like the speculation, but I think thread comes alive when people speculate and/or post rumours about what may or may not happen.

Apologies if my last post came across as negative. That was far from the case.

Whilst I doubt I would watch massive amounts of content from Netflix, I am really looking forward to it's arrival in the not too distant future. :)

I am gonna sit back and hopefully enjoy the rest of the day (and speculation) on here!!
If Netflix shows Inspector Morse, that'll shut the wife up !

gemma307 14-10-2013 15:41
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631848)
From October 26th.

---------- Post added at 11:28 ---------- Previous post was at 11:14 ----------

I am thinking about launching an 'Virgin Media rumours thread' later today.
Is that a rumour then? :hyper:

Khenryashley 14-10-2013 15:50
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35631898)
Take this for what it is - just a rumour at the moment.

I've just been sent a PM from a usually-reliable source that said VM may be starting Netflix in some areas tonight. No idea what time or in which areas.

Also Netflix should launch (when it's official) with a major tivo update. Apparently no channels will officially launch tonight though.
I've been getting a message telling me that general maintainenc will happen in the early hours of the morning on the 15 oct 2013.
Area 20 north west.

howardmicks 14-10-2013 15:53
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Khenryashley (Post 35631950)
I've been getting a message telling me that general maintainenc will happen in the early hours of the morning on the 15 oct 2013.
Area 20 north west.
;)

heavyside 14-10-2013 15:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
This thread has perked up no end recently. I used to be an occasional visitor. Now I'm a daily visitor. I might seriously consider becoming an hourly visitor if these rumours get much juicier.

denphone 14-10-2013 15:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35631951)
;)
Well the 100 metres race is about to start and the start off gun will go off very soon indeed.:)

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 15:59
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35631909)
From what i got told all areas will be updated but my source thinks it will be the Telewest areas first then NTL will follow next week.
Don't take this as fact though.
I got the same info from an Rumour poster.

howardmicks 14-10-2013 16:02
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631955)
I got the same info from an Rumour poster.
;)

---------- Post added at 15:02 ---------- Previous post was at 15:01 ----------

Can see a avatar change coming on

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 16:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
New Channel rumour:

From an Rumour poster:

There are 3 channels scheduled for 'very soon' - they are:

-News 18 (Was told last week by an insider that channel may launch by Friday.)
-FOX +
-An unknown channel possibly another on demand service.

theone2k10 14-10-2013 16:18
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
I wont be awake in early hours lol i did a all nighter last night for some unknown random reason.

---------- Post added at 15:18 ---------- Previous post was at 15:17 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35631956)
;)

---------- Post added at 15:02 ---------- Previous post was at 15:01 ----------

Can see a avatar change coming on
I like my avatar it's kind of mysterious like me :D

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 16:27
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
One Rumour poster says:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631841)
New Rumour:

My Rumour poster has told me a deal has been struck between Sky and Virgin for Sky Atlantic and Sky Atlantic HD.

Both are expected to launch at some point in the Autumn possibly as early as end of October.

Sky Atlantic will be in the M+ package with Sky Atlantic HD being in the XL pack.

These will launch at same time as the other Sky channels aka Sky News HD etc.
An other Rumour poster says:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631844)
Updates an other Rumour poster think Sky Atlantic will only launch on Virgin Media when Sky Atlantic launches on 'Now TV'.
Update again (Also from Rumour poster 2):

An Rumour poster has now updated me to say Sky Atlantic will only be on the XL Package plus Sky Atlantic HD will not launch.

ken1234 14-10-2013 16:28
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
i see that bt BT will offer Sky Movies for a monthly subscription that customers can add to their existing BT TV package from October 26.
http://corporate.sky.com/investors/p...ovies_to_bt_tv

denphone 14-10-2013 16:40
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35631971)
One Rumour poster says:


An other Rumour poster says:


Update again (Also from Rumour poster 2):

An Rumour poster has now updated me to say Sky Atlantic will only be on the XL Package plus Sky Atlantic HD will not launch.
It seems to me that the rumour poster department is getting confused as one says something different from the other.:)

Media Boy UK 14-10-2013 16:47
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35631975)
It seems to me that the rumour poster department is getting confused as one says something different from the other.:)
Em... 'The rumour poster department' good idea. Do not say that they will want money per rumour now.:D

vincerooney 14-10-2013 16:54
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by heavyside (Post 35631952)
This thread has perked up no end recently. I used to be an occasional visitor. Now I'm a daily visitor. I might seriously consider becoming an hourly visitor if these rumours get much juicier.
haha such a true comment

could be interesting. would be excellent if netflix did launch tonight!

muppetman11 14-10-2013 17:29
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by andy_m (Post 35631871)
WSJ is reporting that Netflix are now in talks with several US cable operators to put their app on stbs in deals similar to those they've announced with Virgin and Com hem in Sweden. An interesting point to note is that there appears to have been a recent carriage dispute between one of the cable companies (comcast I think) and cbs. The report suggests that if a deal with Netflix had already been in place it would have given the cable company greater leverage in the negotiations because they would have been able to point their customers in the direction of all the cbs content they carry through their association with Netflix.

It's something I hadn't considered, but I wonder if the inclusion of Netflix on Virgin's platform will put them in a stronger position when it comes to negotiating carriage agreements with channels who's content is also available through the app?
Another interesting development today is the Canadian Government will soon require TV providers in the country to offer viewers the ability to pick and choose channels rather than being forced to take bundles of channels.

howardmicks 14-10-2013 18:01
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35631991)
Another interesting development today is the Canadian Government will soon require TV providers in the country to offer viewers the ability to pick and choose channels rather than being forced to take bundles of channels.
Interesting bud

---------- Post added at 17:01 ---------- Previous post was at 16:54 ----------

Wel just st got home straight to tivo box,no message doh
means 1 of 2 things as per usual north west back of q lol anyone else getting a tech message on there tivo

andy_m 14-10-2013 18:04
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
I'm not either. I'm 22 which I think is Bromley, but I'm a relative newcomer to cable so I don't know if that was telewest or ntl??

vincerooney 14-10-2013 18:09
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35632004)
Interesting bud

---------- Post added at 17:01 ---------- Previous post was at 16:54 ----------

Wel just st got home straight to tivo box,no message doh
means 1 of 2 things as per usual north west back of q lol anyone else getting a tech message on there tivo
Doh! I called this a few hours ago haha typical.

ah well win some and we lose some...

thegrid 14-10-2013 18:15
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
I've not had a message either. I'm East Midlands so gawd knows when we'll get the update.

geordiechris 14-10-2013 18:21
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
No message on mine either here in the North East - Area Code 02

harry_hitch 14-10-2013 18:25
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
Nothing in Area 33 (St. Ives, Cambs) which I imagine is an old NTL area. The area I grew up in was NTL and that was only 15-20 miles away.

bamav 14-10-2013 18:45
Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 5.
 
We might finally see TV bundles going and consumers given the power to pick only channels that interest them. In light of the shift toward more on demand content, it would make sense that channel providers will do all they can to retain their place and therefore their brand.

CNET are reporting that the Canadian government are considering ending bundled tv channels.

The consequence may be that the niche channels may not have enough subscribers to survive. But hey ho. If new "channels" or programmes can pop on YouTube and Netflix, then maybe it's not all doom and gloom.


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