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Arthurgray50@blu 11-05-2014 21:54

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You might as well give them next season's as well. There is no longer strong competition for Celtic in Scotland.

MalteseFalcon 12-05-2014 14:58

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For once, I actually agree with you Arthur. They said when Rangers were kicked out of the league that it would mean more competition for the title. I said balls to that at the time, and everyone who said that are now being proved right.

Might as well let Celtic keep it for the next 2 or 3 seasons, I imagine Rangers will not be the same threat to Celtic for a couple of seasons once promoted to Premier League.

Henkesghost 12-05-2014 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35697469)
For once, I actually agree with you Arthur. They said when Rangers were kicked out of the league that it would mean more competition for the title. I said balls to that at the time, and everyone who said that are now being proved right.

Might as well let Celtic keep it for the next 2 or 3 seasons, I imagine Rangers will not be the same threat to Celtic for a couple of seasons once promoted to Premier League.

Ha ha ha you agree with Arthur, shocker lol, believe the phrase is two cheeks from the same erse

MalteseFalcon 12-05-2014 15:35

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Not a shock at all, just because me and others want a team other than Celtic to win the league our opinions aren't valid? It's boring to see the same team winning the league every season.

Henkesghost 12-05-2014 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35697498)
Not a shock at all, just because me and others want a team other than Celtic to win the league our opinions aren't valid? It's boring to see the same team winning the league every season.

Well u better get used to it, oh and Rangers weren't kicked out the league the were liquidated and the new club had to apply to get into the Scottish league, but hey why bother with the facts

Arthurgray50@blu 12-05-2014 15:44

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Just to add something. Many years ago the Scottish league was the envy of the world. We had some powerful sides in Scotland - Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts and Hibs.

Now all you have is Celtic, which to me are starting to become boring, winning each season. I have watched several Scottish clubs this season. How the hell they survive beats me with all those empty seats, in the stadiums.

I often get into rows with my family, who are staunch Celtic supporters (I support Rangers to spite them). They claim that they will be in the English Premier League within the next couple of years - walk straight into the EPL, which will be unfair to the rest of the English League.

We hear now that Hearts and Rangers again are in trouble.

What has to happen, is stop the mockery of Celtic winning each season - Merge, the bottom tier of English Football with the Scottish leagues. And go from there.

Scottish football will be finished in a few years, if Celtic keep winning the League.

Also, just to add an extra point. Rangers only have to win the league next season and they will be back in the SPL. Wouldn't surprise me if Rangers hit trouble again, and bingo the League will relegate them again. This is the farcical farce of Scottish football. And l dont say that lightly.

Scottish football only survives now becuase of Tv Money.

Henkesghost 12-05-2014 15:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35697500)
Just to add something. Many years ago the Scottish league was the envy of the world. We had some powerful sides in Scotland - Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts and Hibs.

Now all you have is Celtic, which to me are starting to become boring, winning each season. I have watched several Scottish clubs this season. How the hell they survive beats me with all those empty seats, in the stadiums.

I often get into rows with my family, who are staunch Celtic supporters (I support Rangers to spite them). They claim that they will be in the English Premier League within the next couple of years - walk straight into the EPL, which will be unfair to the rest of the English League.

We hear now that Hearts and Rangers again are in trouble.

What has to happen, is stop the mockery of Celtic winning each season - Merge, the bottom tier of English Football with the Scottish leagues. And go from there.

Scottish football will be finished in a few years, if Celtic keep winning the League.

Also, just to add an extra point. Rangers only have to win the league next season and they will be back in the SPL. Wouldn't surprise me if Rangers hit trouble again, and bingo the League will relegate them again. This is the farcical farce of Scottish football. And l dont say that lightly.

Scottish football only survives now becuase of Tv Money.

Wow where to start with that totally inaccurate rant lol

Derek 12-05-2014 16:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35697499)
Well u better get used to it, oh and Rangers weren't kicked out the league the were liquidated and the new club had to apply to get into the Scottish league, but hey why bother with the facts

A sellick fan complaining about facts. Oh the irony. :D

Enjoy the tainted titles.

colin25 12-05-2014 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35697500)
Just to add something. Many years ago the Scottish league was the envy of the world. We had some powerful sides in Scotland - Aberdeen, Motherwell, Hearts and Hibs.

Now all you have is Celtic, which to me are starting to become boring, winning each season. I have watched several Scottish clubs this season. How the hell they survive beats me with all those empty seats, in the stadiums.

I often get into rows with my family, who are staunch Celtic supporters (I support Rangers to spite them). They claim that they will be in the English Premier League within the next couple of years - walk straight into the EPL, which will be unfair to the rest of the English League.

We hear now that Hearts and Rangers again are in trouble.

What has to happen, is stop the mockery of Celtic winning each season - Merge, the bottom tier of English Football with the Scottish leagues. And go from there.

Scottish football will be finished in a few years, if Celtic keep winning the League.

Also, just to add an extra point. Rangers only have to win the league next season and they will be back in the SPL. Wouldn't surprise me if Rangers hit trouble again, and bingo the League will relegate them again. This is the farcical farce of Scottish football. And l dont say that lightly.

Scottish football only survives now becuase of Tv Money.

Can I have some of what you are drinking? wait, forget that, it will be too strong for me, given the state it has left you :D

LondonRoad 12-05-2014 21:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35697513)
A sellick fan complaining about facts. Oh the irony. :D

Enjoy the tainted titles.

The only tainted titles I'm aware were earned by your dead club using tax payers money.

Scotland's shame:(

Meantime your long time hero David Murray has moved on from robbing tax payers to dipping the pension fund of his own employers. Morally bankrupt, just like the lot running this new club playing out of the bigotdome.

How's the journey going? ;)

Stephen 12-05-2014 22:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35697513)
A sellick fan complaining about facts. Oh the irony. :D

Enjoy the tainted titles.

Tom fans on here??

Derek 14-05-2014 17:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad
How's the journey going? ;)

A roller coaster ride like all the best journeys are. :)

Yep a league where the winners and relegated teams are decided before the first ball of the season is kicked is entirely legitimate and worthwhile.

Next year the Championship is where it's at. A league with actual games worth watching, probably a derby between Hearts and Hibs and no guarantees of anything.

LondonRoad 14-05-2014 17:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35698147)
A roller coaster ride like all the best journeys are. :)

Yep a league where the winners and relegated teams are decided before the first ball of the season is kicked is entirely legitimate and worthwhile.

.

Yup- a situation that arose because of dishonesty and corruption, most of it from your ex-club.

LondonRoad 17-05-2014 15:55

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Good luck to the Perth Saints and the Arabs today. I'm hoping for a good game.

Great atmosphere among both sets of fans where I am at lunch time today (about 6 miles from Celtic Park but convenient for a refreshment break ;))

May the best team win :D

Media Boy UK 19-05-2014 12:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35698986)
Good luck to the Perth Saints and the Arabs today. I'm hoping for a good game.

Great atmosphere among both sets of fans where I am at lunch time today (about 6 miles from Celtic Park but convenient for a refreshment break ;))

May the best team win :D

BBC's Off the Ball says some Dundee Utd fans was seen going into an Motherwell Bar before the game.

LondonRoad 19-05-2014 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35699517)
BBC's Off the Ball says some Dundee Utd fans was seen going into an Motherwell Bar before the game.

That's 6 different clubs have won the 2 main Scottish Cups in the past 3 seasons.... and 3 different clubs have won the Challenge Cup (Ramsdens) for lower league teams.

This Armageddon is working a treat. :D

Media Boy UK 19-05-2014 15:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35699552)
That's 6 different clubs have won the 2 main Scottish Cups in the past 3 seasons.... and 3 different clubs have won the Challenge Cup (Ramsdens) for lower league teams.

This Armageddon is working a treat. :D

I wish Motherwell was one of them.:(

LondonRoad 20-05-2014 21:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35699560)
I wish Motherwell was one of them.:(

You'll have to hope that you're drawn against top flight opposition to have a chance to progress in the cups;)

denphone 22-05-2014 12:59

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Neil Lennon to stand down as Celtic manager

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...-stand-3587279

Media Boy UK 22-05-2014 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35700421)
Neil Lennon to stand down as Celtic manager

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...-stand-3587279

Who will be next Celtic manger?

-Owen Coyle
-Ally McCoist
-Derek McInnes
-Stuart McCall
-Tommy Wright
-Jackie McNamara
-Paul Hartley
-Paulo Dicanio
-Malky Mckay
-Paul Lambert
-David Moyes
-Henrik Larsson

denphone 22-05-2014 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35700430)
Who will be next Celtic manger?

-Owen Coyle
-Ally McCoist
-Derek McInnes
-Stuart McCall
-Tommy Wright
-Jackie McNamara
-Paul Hartley
-Paulo Dicanio
-Malky Mckay
-Paul Lambert
-David Moyes
-Henrik Larsson

Owen Coyle or David Moyes.

colin25 22-05-2014 17:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35700430)
Who will be next Celtic manger?

-Owen Coyle
-Ally McCoist
-Derek McInnes
-Stuart McCall
-Tommy Wright
-Jackie McNamara
-Paul Hartley
-Paulo Dicanio
-Malky Mckay
-Paul Lambert
-David Moyes
-Henrik Larsson

Ally McCoist? Obviously not a serious question

Hugh 22-05-2014 20:01

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Would be v. amusing though....

LondonRoad 22-05-2014 20:01

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Malky or Henrik would be my choices for different reasons.
Stevie Clark is one who isn't getting mentioned. I wouldn't be too upset if he had a role at Celtic Park.

colin25 22-05-2014 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35700550)
Malky or Henrik would be my choices for different reasons.
Stevie Clark is one who isn't getting mentioned. I wouldn't be too upset if he had a role at Celtic Park.

I heard Steve Clark's name mentioned on radio, when going home.

denphone 22-05-2014 22:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35700611)
I heard Steve Clark's name mentioned on radio, when going home.

He is very underestimated in my opinion.

Derek 22-05-2014 23:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35700421)
Neil Lennon to stand down as Celtic manager

Excellent news. One less bigot involved in the Scottish game is always worth celebrating.

And before the celtic fans start foaming at the mouth a simple YouTube search will show him quite openly using sectarian language towards the rangers support during a match.

Chad 22-05-2014 23:15

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Paul Hartley

denphone 23-05-2014 07:13

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Is he big enough for the Celtic job as its just a matter of time before they face the old firm foe again.

colin25 23-05-2014 07:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35700682)
Is he big enough for the Celtic job as its just a matter of time before they face the old firm foe again.

It is not the size...it is what you do with it

i am surprised I need to say that to you Den :D

jb66 23-05-2014 07:50

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Celtic manager is easiest job in the world

Media Boy UK 23-05-2014 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35700687)
Celtic manager is easiest job in the world

If that is the case I am putting my name in hat.

LondonRoad 23-05-2014 14:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35700766)
If that is the case I am putting my name in hat.

Breaking News......LondonRoad exclusive

Media Boy is Lanarkshire's Henrik Larsson :D

Media Boy UK 23-05-2014 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35700772)
Breaking News......LondonRoad exclusive

Media Boy is Lanarkshire's Henrik Larsson :D

Will I am Celtic and N. Ireland Manger on FIFA 2014 on my PS3.:D

-I sold Hopper for £20m to Man City.
-Got Ryan Gauld on an Free then sold him to Man United for £30m.

Back to real life I think Owen Coyle or Malky Mckay will be the next Celtic boss.

denphone 23-05-2014 15:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35700766)
If that is the case I am putting my name in hat.

We won't allow that to happen.:nono:

Henkesghost 25-05-2014 16:31

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From the Guardian newspaper

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...medium=twitter

Quote:

Neil Lennon, Celtic's ex-manager, has been let down by many sections of Scottish society. Photograph: Scott Heppell/AP
Now that the departure of Neil Lennon has been announced, it is time to ask why enlightened and progressive Scotland treated him in such a vile manner in each of the dozen or so years he spent with us. The resignation of a Celtic manager ought only to be the subject of scrutiny on the sports pages, with his success rate and football legacy being picked apart and compared with others who have occupied that seat.

colin25 25-05-2014 17:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35701284)

It is just the usual. Rangers and Celtic supporters know no bounds

Chad 25-05-2014 19:14

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Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in the Championship next season. Can't wait!

colin25 25-05-2014 19:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35701333)
Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in the Championship next season. Can't wait!

Big crowds for other teams, Hearts normally have a good away support. Not sure about rangers, and Hibs, they must still have a fan or two :D

Derek 25-05-2014 19:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35701284)
From the Guardian newspaper

Nonsense. Was Lennon the first high profile Northern Irish catholic to be manager of celtic? No he wasn't. Did O'Neill get the same level of abuse as Lennon. No he didn't.

Now getting fake bombs and threats thrown at you isn't acceptable but lets not kid ourself on its purely down to poor Lennon being oppressed for his faith.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Guardian
Most famously, he was attacked on the pitch in Edinburgh by a supporter of Heart of Midlothian. The incident was witnessed by millions watching live on Sky TV. In what must have been a world legal first an Edinburgh jury subsequently cleared his assailant.

No Kevin, any journalist with half a brain would no that 'Not Guilty' and 'Not proven' verdicts are announced every day in Scotland. Maybe if the PF wasn't hell bent on trying to prove there was a sectarian angle to the assault then he would have got a conviction.
In fact IIRC the attacker was happy to plead guilty to assaulting Lennon purely on the fact of his hatred for him but that hatred had nothing to do with religion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Guardian
Indeed, on the only occasion that they did so, they hit Lennon with an extraordinary ban as punishment for reacting angrily, but not violently, to something uttered quietly by Ally McCoist

Pushing McCoist and having to be held back from assaulting him isn't violent. Right you are Kevin. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35701333)
Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in the Championship next season. Can't wait!

Thats where the real action is. Forget the kiddie on 'premiership' nonsense with the winners already crowned. Next season in the championship is shaping up to be a cracker.

---------- Post added at 18:46 ---------- Previous post was at 18:45 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35701347)
Big crowds for other teams, Hearts normally have a good away support. Not sure about rangers, and Hibs, they must still have a fan or two :D

Hibs took a dive. :D

They know that way they will get at least 4 sell outs next year as opposed to middling crowds in the 'booming' SPFL. The only league in the world that has to pay broadcasters to cover games.

LondonRoad 25-05-2014 20:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35701352)
Nonsense. Was Lennon the first high profile Northern Irish catholic to be manager of celtic? No he wasn't. Did O'Neill get the same level of abuse as Lennon. No he didn't.

Now getting fake bombs and threats thrown at you isn't acceptable but lets not kid ourself on its purely down to poor Lennon being oppressed for his faith.



No Kevin, any journalist with half a brain would no that 'Not Guilty' and 'Not proven' verdicts are announced every day in Scotland. Maybe if the PF wasn't hell bent on trying to prove there was a sectarian angle to the assault then he would have got a conviction.
In fact IIRC the attacker was happy to plead guilty to assaulting Lennon purely on the fact of his hatred for him but that hatred had nothing to do with religion.



Pushing McCoist and having to be held back from assaulting him isn't violent. Right you are Kevin. :rolleyes:



Thats where the real action is. Forget the kiddie on 'premiership' nonsense with the winners already crowned. Next season in the championship is shaping up to be a cracker.

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Hibs took a dive. :D

They know that way they will get at least 4 sell outs next year as opposed to middling crowds in the 'booming' SPFL. The only league in the world that has to pay broadcasters to cover games.

:shocked:
I truly hope your have a more realistic grip on reality in your profession than you continue to have in this thread.

colin25 26-05-2014 09:09

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I think the scottish championship will be more interesting (I will keep an eye on the results), but would i pay to watch it...no. Though to be fair, I wouldn't pay for the scottish premiership either :D

MalteseFalcon 26-05-2014 09:42

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Nice to see Hamilton up in the Prem. Hoping they can survive next season, and as someone said on the Mail site, the Championship will be more interesting to watch than the Premier League.

Media Boy UK 26-05-2014 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35701482)
Nice to see Hamilton up in the Prem. Hoping they can survive next season, and as someone said on the Mail site, the Championship will be more interesting to watch than the Premier League.

That nine points in the bag before season starts.

MalteseFalcon 26-05-2014 12:16

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Yes, thanks Celtic for donating some points to the minnows. Come on other Prem teams, make a decent challenge at the top. If Celtic win the league, at least make it a bit closer this year instead of having it decided by Christmas.

LondonRoad 26-05-2014 14:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35701522)
That nine points in the bag before season starts.

I wouldn't count on it. New Douglas Park can throw up some unexpected results on occasion ;)

Media Boy UK 26-05-2014 14:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35701575)
I wouldn't count on it. New Douglas Park can throw up some unexpected results on occasion ;)

I know (Albion Rovers).;)

denphone 30-05-2014 08:03

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Roy Keane set to become Celtic manager in the next 72 hours.

denphone 06-06-2014 10:40

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l wonder what our Celtic friends think of this man.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27718845

---------- Post added at 09:40 ---------- Previous post was at 09:39 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35702645)
Roy Keane set to become Celtic manager in the next 72 hours.

Oh dear another one of my predictions gone awry.:)

Media Boy UK 11-06-2014 13:07

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Rangers: Ibrox club to launch share issue in bid to raise £8m

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/27793911

Chad 27-07-2014 23:33

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Armageddon continues:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...ue-box-3920957

"THE exact numbers for last season are being kept under wraps for the moment, but are believed to be almost twice as high as the final campaign before the SPL merged with the SFL."

colin25 28-07-2014 06:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35717879)
Armageddon continues:

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...ue-box-3920957

"THE exact numbers for last season are being kept under wraps for the moment, but are believed to be almost twice as high as the final campaign before the SPL merged with the SFL."

? Where are you getting that from the story?

Derek 28-07-2014 19:36

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Still no sponsor for the 'booming' SPFL?

Chad 28-07-2014 19:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35717907)
? Where are you getting that from the story?

I was being ironic :D

denphone 29-07-2014 06:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35718041)
Still no sponsor for the 'booming' SPFL?

Well they got themselves into this fine mess so now they can get themselves out of it if they know how.

Arthurgray50@blu 29-07-2014 12:53

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I dont know why they dont merge All Scottish Football into the English Football League.

I watched some games last season, and most of the grounds were empty. This could be why they have no sponsor.


Its like Celtic, you might as well give them the title before the season starts, and then let the rest catch them up.

Most officials in Scottish football are scared about Celtic and Rangers in case they upset anyone.

I watched You Tube last season on the way the fans from both clubs react. There was a strong rumour that Celtic and Rangers were trying to 'jump the queue' and get into the EPL - becuae money counts.

MalteseFalcon 29-07-2014 16:18

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OVER. MY. DEAD. BODY.

No way in hell would I support Scottish teams in English leagues, I don't even support the Welsh teams in the English leagues.

colin25 29-07-2014 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35718185)
OVER. MY. DEAD. BODY.

No way in hell would I support Scottish teams in English leagues, I don't even support the Welsh teams in the English leagues.

I don't think they asked for your support, they have their own.

But i agree that a Scottish team should play in Scotland.

MalteseFalcon 29-07-2014 16:40

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You know what I meant. They wouldn't let an English team play in their leagues.

Arthurgray50@blu 29-07-2014 16:47

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Whiy is it then that CELTIC and RANGERS want to play in the EPL. And are prepared to offer to play from conference upwards.

As they believe that they will get Tv money for that - l was told that by loads of Celtic fans.

Mr Pharmacist 29-07-2014 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35718188)
You know what I meant. They wouldn't let an English team play in their leagues.

Apart from Berwick Rangers....;)

MalteseFalcon 29-07-2014 16:51

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True, but my understanding is that Berwick has changed between England and Scotland for centuries and as such could be classified as Scottish.

colin25 29-07-2014 16:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35718189)
Whiy is it then that CELTIC and RANGERS want to play in the EPL. And are prepared to offer to play from conference upwards.

As they believe that they will get Tv money for that - l was told that by loads of Celtic fans.

These fans have been deluded for years. Too busy fighting amongst themselves

denphone 31-07-2014 07:21

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Not the start Celtic fans wanted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28508318

Derek 31-07-2014 12:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35718660)
Not the start Celtic fans wanted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28508318

Not quite as embarrassing as the Artmedia debacle from a few years back but maybe a wake up call that a downsizing and cost cutting regime will still be dominant in Scotland for a few years till (if) Rangers are back at their rightful level but any halfway competent European team will rip them to shreds.

LondonRoad 31-07-2014 20:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35718685)
Not quite as embarrassing as the Artmedia debacle from a few years back but maybe a wake up call that a downsizing and cost cutting regime will still be dominant in Scotland for a few years till (if) Rangers are back at their rightful level but any halfway competent European team will rip them to shreds.

... and the attitude that killed your old club still prevails. No club has any rights to belong anywhere unless it is achieved on the field. It's a fundamental of sport. Downsizing and living within you means is a good thing. You should encourage your new club to do it... the third Rangers might not get as much of a helping hand as Sevco have. ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 03-08-2014 16:23

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This typical Celtic FC. Spurs went to help out after a team pulled out. What did Celtic do, pull an insult on Spurs fans who wanted to see a good game.

Celtic fielded a an u21 team. No wonder Spurs are fuming. Reason, Celtic kept all there first team behind for extra training, and sent there n2. after a dismal performance in the 4-1 thrasing.

No wonder they are on the verge of going out the CL at the first hurdle.

Hugh 04-08-2014 17:46

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It's like English, only through a kaleidoscope.....

Media Boy UK 06-08-2014 22:54

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Thursday nights football is coming to Celtic park.

---------- Post added at 21:54 ---------- Previous post was at 21:50 ----------

BBC: Rangers share issue plan falls short of £10m target.

Rangers are facing a fresh financial crisis after failing to convince city investors to sign up to a new share issue, BBC Sport has learned.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28678687

LondonRoad 07-08-2014 00:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35719865)
Thursday nights football is coming to Celtic park.

That could be prove to be one of your most optimistic posts MB :(

Still, I suppose there's more chance of Thursday night football at Celtic Park than Thursday night football at Motherwell ;)

denphone 07-08-2014 07:09

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Looking at it from a independent point of view l think Celtic have appointed a nobody as a manager who simply has not got a clue.

LondonRoad 07-08-2014 08:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35719889)
Looking at it from a independent point of view l think Celtic have appointed a nobody as a manager who simply has not got a clue.

Early Days Den. I hope you're not on the Jury when I finally get caught :D

There's nobody more disappointed than me with the results and the performances so far but it's not all down to the manager. I can argue about tactics and team selection but the reality is it's been mainly individual errors that have been costly -usually by established players.

If the manager hasn't got the dressing room then he should be allowed to bring in his own players. There are no Henrik Larsson, Dalglish figures in the current squad so ditch them If the board don't back him then it's them that are at fault.

He's yet to lead a team out in front of a crowd at Celtic Park. That's when the Jury selection process starts ;)

MalteseFalcon 07-08-2014 11:53

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If this is an omen of the Premier League season, then it would be nice to see a closer title race. Fed up with Celtic being 30 clear by end of January.

LondonRoad 07-08-2014 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35719922)
If this is an omen of the Premier League season, then it would be nice to see a closer title race. Fed up with Celtic being 30 clear by end of January.

Partly agree. I'd rather have increased competition arising from other teams improving rather than Celtic coming back to the pack.

Media Boy UK 07-08-2014 15:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35719889)
Looking at it from a independent point of view l think Celtic have appointed a nobody as a manager who simply has not got a clue.

Like Man United did last season.;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35719874)
That could be prove to be one of your most optimistic posts MB :(

Still, I suppose there's more chance of Thursday night football at Celtic Park than Thursday night football at Motherwell ;)

As long as Motherwell stay in the top 10 of Scottish Football I do not care about Europe.

Arthurgray50@blu 07-08-2014 16:01

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Just think they may face Spurs. Then we will show Celtic how to pay football - we showed that the other night

There performance of late as been extremely poor - they should get in a manager who knows how to play football - the Celtic way

denphone 07-08-2014 16:04

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Spurs showing everybody else how to play football , now that's a first.:rofl::nono:

MalteseFalcon 07-08-2014 16:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35719960)
Just think they may face Spurs. Then we will show Celtic how to pay football - we showed that the other night

There performance of late as been extremely poor - they should get in a manager who knows how to play football - the Celtic way

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

colin25 07-08-2014 17:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35719960)
Just think they may face Spurs. Then we will show Celtic how to pay football - we showed that the other night

There performance of late as been extremely poor - they should get in a manager who knows how to play football - the Celtic way

I heard tottenham were also going to play young boys..and teach them too. Next years, the nuns. Missionary work is never finished.

LondonRoad 07-08-2014 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35719949)
Like Man United did last season.;)

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As long as Motherwell stay in the top 10 of Scottish Football I do not care about Europe.

You are Stuart McColl and I claim my £5 :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35719960)
Just think they may face Spurs. Then we will show Celtic how to pay football - we showed that the other night

There performance of late as been extremely poor - they should get in a manager who knows how to play football - the Celtic way

But, we've been playing the Spurs way so far this season - I thought you'd be happy!

Media Boy UK 07-08-2014 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LondonRoad (Post 35719984)
You are Stuart McColl and I claim my £5 :D

I do not walk on top of cars.:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryKB...a3_bBg6KwlhPmd

Media Boy UK 07-08-2014 22:00

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BBC: Legia Warsaw face Uefa investigation over Celtic tie.

Legia Warsaw have admitted they are under investigation for fielding an ineligible player during their Champions League win over Celtic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28693855

MalteseFalcon 07-08-2014 23:26

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Well, if the player only played 2 minutes and the game was finished before he came on then Warsaw got no advantage. However, it seems weird that they would forget he had another game left to serve on his ban if he did have one more to go. But I thought Warsaw had already played a 2 leg match before the Celtic one so I would assume he had served it after the first leg had finished.

LondonRoad 08-08-2014 00:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35720098)
Well, if the player only played 2 minutes and the game was finished before he came on then Warsaw got no advantage. However, it seems weird that they would forget he had another game left to serve on his ban if he did have one more to go. But I thought Warsaw had already played a 2 leg match before the Celtic one so I would assume he had served it after the first leg had finished.

It will be interesting to see how UEFA deal with this. From their own rule book Legia should forfeit the match 3-0 which would put them out on away goals.

I'm not comfortable with Celtic progressing like that but unless there are extenuating circumstances I don't see how UEFA can do anything different.

Article 21.2:
A match is declared forfeit if a player who has been suspended following a
disciplinary decision participates in the match.

and...

21.4:

The consequences of a match being declared forfeit are as follows:
a) the team forfeiting the match is deemed to have lost 3-0 (5-0 in futsal
competitions), unless the actual result is less favourable to the member
association or club at fault, in which case that result stands;

There does seem to be wriggle room for players who are ineligible for other reasons but not playing a suspended player.

Meeting at 8 a.m. tomorrow morning apparently, I wonder what how UEFA will deal with the draw if nothing is decided quickly. If the decision goes against Legia they'd still have the right to appeal.

Decisions, decisions... I intended buying the SS Season book with the money I hoped would be purchasing 3 tickets for the Champions League games at Celtic Park... hmmm, I think I'll wait a few days :D

Chad 08-08-2014 01:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35720069)
BBC: Legia Warsaw face Uefa investigation over Celtic tie.

Legia Warsaw have admitted they are under investigation for fielding an ineligible player during their Champions League win over Celtic.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28693855

The part at the bottom of the article is interesting:

"In 2010, Uefa fined Debrecen £15,000 but rejected a protest from opponents Litex Lovech, who wanted the Hungarian side kicked out of the tournament for fielding an ineligible player.

Debrecen argued that they fielded Peter Mate in good faith as a substitute in Bulgaria when they were leading 4-1 on aggregate.

Uefa ruled that Debrecen had "no interest in fielding this player for the three last minutes of additional time, when the score was so clearly in its favour".

SKY are reporting that UEFA's disciplinary regulations decree that a match may be declared a forfeit if an ineligible player participates, "as long as the opposing team files a protest." Looks like the ball is in Celtic's court. Will they take their 6-1 thrashing with dignity or will they speak up looking for a back door into the next round? Or has this situation arisen due to Celtic lodging a protest already?

colin25 08-08-2014 06:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35720122)
The part at the bottom of the article is interesting:

"In 2010, Uefa fined Debrecen £15,000 but rejected a protest from opponents Litex Lovech, who wanted the Hungarian side kicked out of the tournament for fielding an ineligible player.

Debrecen argued that they fielded Peter Mate in good faith as a substitute in Bulgaria when they were leading 4-1 on aggregate.

Uefa ruled that Debrecen had "no interest in fielding this player for the three last minutes of additional time, when the score was so clearly in its favour".

SKY are reporting that UEFA's disciplinary regulations decree that a match may be declared a forfeit if an ineligible player participates, "as long as the opposing team files a protest." Looks like the ball is in Celtic's court. Will they take their 6-1 thrashing with dignity or will they speak up looking for a back door into the next round? Or has this situation arisen due to Celtic lodging a protest already?

Sorry. It is not back door. If legia broke the rules, that is their fault. Celtic have every right to appeal.

jb66 08-08-2014 06:34

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CELTIC - Always cheated, never defeated

colin25 08-08-2014 06:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35720126)
CELTIC - Always cheated, never defeated

? what does that mean?

denphone 08-08-2014 07:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35720125)
Sorry. It is not back door. If legia broke the rules, that is their fault. Celtic have every right to appeal.

Exactly.

Derek 08-08-2014 08:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35720129)
? what does that mean?

It means since 1888 (or 1887 if the want to sell more green and grey tat to the unwashed hordes) pretty much every poor result has been the fault of someone other than celtic.

LondonRoad 08-08-2014 08:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35720137)
It means since 1888 (or 1887 if the want to sell more green and grey tat to the unwashed hordes) pretty much every poor result has been the fault of someone other than celtic.

How's the journey going Deek?

Not well enough for you to leave your derogatory bigoted comments behind obviously.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35720125)
Sorry. It is not back door. If legia broke the rules, that is their fault. Celtic have every right to appeal.

Sky are looking at the wrong rule. That applies to ineligible players for other reasons. The wording of the rule for fielding suspended players doesn't have the requirement for the opposing team to appeal.
It seems that it has been brought to the attention to UEFA by one of their own officials.
I never knew that UEFA had officials that actually done anything :D

denphone 08-08-2014 11:14

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Celtic reinstated to Champions League.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28701951

MalteseFalcon 08-08-2014 11:32

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Disgusting. That is the second time now that they have been given a back door entry. I hope they get the worst draw of their lives next leg. UEFA need to find some consistency, why were Warsaw kicked out yet Debrecen in similar circumstances not kicked out?

Arthurgray50@blu 08-08-2014 11:41

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Yet again Celtic are going back into the prime league, despite being thrashed and playing poorly.

This is the second time that they have gone back in through the rear door. Makes me wonder if Celtic already knew of the 'player' and didn't bother saying anything.

I think Spurs should appeal against Arsenal winning a Europa league spot by One point. All this crap gets my goat.

Celtic lost over two legs, get over it. The way they played was a disgrace. I am sure that Celtic fans will be jumping with joy over this. But everything gets given to them on a plate.

Like the SPL this season, they have probably won it before even starts. This is not sour grapes either. Back door again.

MalteseFalcon 08-08-2014 11:42

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What annoys me more is the fact there is no consistency with the punishments. If Debrecen can only get a fine, why can't Warsaw also have a fine? Platini is just as stupid as Sepp Blatter and that is saying something.

Stephen 08-08-2014 11:52

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Celtic played badly and dont really deserve to be back in.

But Warsaw broke the rules and the punishment is clearly outlined.

There is nothing back door about this decision. Warsaw obviously thought they could get away with breaking the rules.

jb66 08-08-2014 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 35720137)
It means since 1888 (or 1887 if the want to sell more green and grey tat to the unwashed hordes) pretty much every poor result has been the fault of someone other than celtic.

:D

denphone 08-08-2014 12:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35720161)
Disgusting. That is the second time now that they have been given a back door entry. I hope they get the worst draw of their lives next leg. UEFA need to find some consistency, why were Warsaw kicked out yet Debrecen in similar circumstances not kicked out?

The rules are the rules Mark so why are people moaning when everybody knew the rules is beyond me.

MalteseFalcon 08-08-2014 12:35

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Because of the double standards den. Debrecen got a fine for the same offence, so why didn't UEFA issue the same one to Warsaw? And not only that, Celtic were already 6-1 down on aggregate so what advantage, if any, did the player give Warsaw?

This is what I don't understand, the fact that punishments are differing between teams. Either a fine or a 3-0 win to the other team, not choose which one to give depending on which team it is that breaks the rule.

denphone 08-08-2014 12:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35720188)
Because of the double standards den. Debrecen got a fine for the same offence, so why didn't UEFA issue the same one to Warsaw? And not only that, Celtic were already 6-1 down on aggregate so what advantage, if any, did the player give Warsaw?

This is what I don't understand, the fact that punishments are differing between teams. Either a fine or a 3-0 win to the other team, not choose which one to give depending on which team it is that breaks the rule.

Its does not matter if the scoreline was 36-0 Mark as clearly a rule was broken and thus UEFA had no option but to chuck them out of the competition.


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