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Liverpool are in Decline and have been for a few years now. To go from Rafa Benitez down to Brendan Rodgers is a shambles.

To pay over £100m in transfer fee's for some amazing flops is even more of a shambles.

But It's not all just Liverpool, The sacking of Harry Redknapp of Spurs was also a disgrace and it's going to bite them hard now.

Arsenal could do with a strong finish and a League/FA Cup win to stop this leaving for trophies crap.

We'll know more about these teams about 5 games in.

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Don't worry Adzii, their incompetitance will leave us in prime position for 4th place.

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I have been a Spurs fan all my life, and l simply cannot understand the logic behind Daniel Levy.

We got rid of the best manager that Spurs have had since Nicholson, in Redknapp and bring in AVB (l will give him a chance). BUT we are going after defenders and now we find out today we are trying to sign a winger and that Spurs may sell Micheal Dawson to Liverpool.

We have a major problem with the season now started we have one - striker in Defoe, we cannot rely on Kane, as he not enough experience in Premier League, Danny Rose is being sent out on loan(who has PL experience).

I can seriously feel that we wont get anything this season, other than our normal 8th spot.

On Saturday he had Sigusson on, and they had Vertonghen on the bench, and he can turn as game as l have seen him play on You Tube.

And we had Van Der Vart on in the second half.

I just do not understand Levy at all, he has the cheque book and could sign a decent player if he wants - or is he waiting for a Berbatov situation with Modric, who l think has been a disgrace to the famous white shirt. He was the idol of the club but has treated the fans with contempt, and l will be glad to see him go.:mad:

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As opposed to...?

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I agree with your first sentence but Rodgers is pretty good. He's unproven at a club of Liverpool's stature but is still a capable manager.

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some news for you den if you haven't already heard. you've gone in for Adam Johnson. You've gone in for Isco at Malaga (I'd like him at Arsenal! I wish we would of done a double swoop but theres no space it seems) and Tello whos been linked did well last night for Barca, a player whom is seemingly fighting to stay and impress at Barca. Not sure if the Tello link is still alive, just syaing he done well last night.

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Yes l knew about Adam Johnson but Isco is new to me and Tello well l think that one is dead in the water now.

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Isco's got quality in my opinion. I'd love him at Arsenal.

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It seems Man Utd are spending again.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19322961

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Oh I was hoping he would come to Southampton.

He obviously has no ambition. ;):D

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His ambition is l suspect is to play in the Man Utd reserve team.;):D

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UNITED IN CRISIS.

This has been a bad week for my fantasy football team. :(

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Awful result against a crap team from Merseyside. This should not be happening. Still, not the best defensive line and the rest of the team will gel.

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First game of the season always shows up a few surprises mainly through the team trying to work with new guys or just plain "not in gear yet"

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To be fair you were playing at the better team from Merseyside...

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It will be interesting to see them play without Fellani. They use the long ball a hell of a lot. We played badly but i was impressed by Kagawa, he looks like he will be a good player.

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There are so many to choose from over there I figure my description was the best.

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Still if Everton decide to play well from the start of the season then we might have another contender for the top 4 *gulp*.

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Don't be silly, it's Everton.

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I was gutted Everton won, I lost 200m on another Forum (virtual money) betting on a United win. They let me down big time. Mind you, I had Baines in my back four on Fantasy Football and he got me 6 points tonight. Hopefully Chelsea can keep a clean sheet when they play Reading.

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United have pinched Buttner from us as "cover for Evra" :(

If he'd joined us he'd have played every week. Money talks...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19322961

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Evra keeps playing like he did at the end of last season and buttner will be playing every week for utd.

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Tranmere might have something to say about that

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Seconded.:(

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Looks like the Arsenal Sahin deal might fall though at the last moment. According to The Times (and seen elsewhere) we want a right to buy deal so that we're not just giving the guy a platform to excel for Madrid next year. Madrid do not want such an option.

I would rather buy M'Vila than loan Sahin. I am not too sure where Sahin slots into our team when we have Arteta, Cazorla, Chamberlain, Diaby, and Wilshere all capable of playing the same kind of central midfield role that Sahin would occupy. All are attacking mindend. I feel we need a defence midfielder there and M'Vila suits that role better than Sahin from what I have heard.

Wenger went off M'Vila after he punched someone in the face, but so what? We need someone capable of punching someone in the face.

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Is Joey Barton still available??? :p:

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We need someone capable of punching someone in the face who doesn't fall over crying when a finger is laid on him.

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l never knew you had such violent thoughts Damien.:Yikes:;)

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We've got to play Stoke this weekend! Violence is all I can think about :shocked:

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And l will have a little prayer just before the visit of Man City on sunday.:help:

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Swansea's Scott Sinclair 'set for Manchester City move'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19327135

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According to www.themirror.co.uk and www.thesun.co.uk Adebayor could be a Spurs player permanently by Friday for 5 million.

He has apparently decided to take a pay cut. What he is on is disgraceful anyway £170.000 PER WEEK.

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Sahin is a defensive midfielder, if you want one that's all about violence though how about de jong

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All the reports I have read have said he isnt...:confused:

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FM can be pretty accurate....

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1345557458

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Sahins box-to-box and its said by well placed sources that the hold up is the fee for any future full transfer

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Apparently not so as Mourinho told Nuri Sahin that he'll be a regular starter under Brendan Rodgers after which he agreed to join Liverpool. (Marca).:)

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It does sound like Arsenal don't want to take him unless they can buy him.

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Yes according to this you are spot on.

http://www.marca.com/2012/08/23/en/f...345703549.html

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www.digitalspy.co.uk ITV are in talks with BT to show live Premier League Football, that will be a kick in the nuts for Sky and VM.

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Not sure it will be somehow Arthur.

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ITV dismissed those rumours yesterday, they only want to produce the show for BT.

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Looks like Sahin to Liverpool according to The Guardian.

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German press say Arsenal

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Yeah we'll see. Not too fussed if we lose out. No point getting a player on loan who could become great and then we have to let him go. Also I don't think he is needed really.

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ye reports saying no future fee has been agreed sucks but now they say theres a first option to buy. i hope the hold up has been continued talks. he would add something in my opinion, a lot infact. from what ive read and seen he would be a brilliant addition. the sort of quality that can see us fighting the title contenders instead of CL places.

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The sooner its sorted the better as it seems the player has changed his mind about 5 times already.

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Seems Arsenal pulled out, they would have paid about £8 million over the course of the year with the fee and wages and didn't have the option to buy.


Reports say Liverpool will pay £7 million over the course of the season. No right to buy.

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Steven Fletcher joins sunderland 4 year contract welcome to safc steven now for Adam Johnson to be confirmed today :):):):)

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You must be a happy man Dave.

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yep sure am Den :)

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£14 million for Fletcher?!

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all local press saying £12M might be some add on not certain on that though it undisclosed officially by club

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The structure of transfer fees is nearly always mind-bogglingly complex in this day and age. Depeding on how you manipulate the figures there's always scope for the media to quote whatever figure they want.

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agree and 9 out 10 clubs say fee is undisclosed now too

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Sunderland paying £14 million for Stephen Fletcher and West Ham paying a "club record fee" of £10 million for Matt Jarvis

Suckers :p

I reckon it's probably more that too though, as the Wolves chief exec has hinted that the £24 million they've got for the pair will be spent on new players. I believe Burnley had a sell on clause of 15% for Fletcher.

I'd be worried if I supported Sunderland though. The past two teams Fletcher signed with have been in relegation fights in the premiership, with eventual relegation ;)

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Ridiculous.:td:

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was not £14M

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According to this it was Dave.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19256084

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accounding to local press here and sky it not Den £12M but it officially undisclosed by club

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Seems like your christmas pressies have come early this year Dave.:D

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yes sure is mate more to come before next week to according to Martin :hyper::hyper:

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Yes l suspect my club will be busy busy as well.:hyper::juggle:

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It's £12 million with a further £2 million in add-ons, like the BBC site says.
Also knowing Jez Moxey, there's probably a sell-on clause too

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Gillingham are getting a Similar chunk for Jarvis and we actually paid around seven for him, we'd have to win the world cup again for England to pay out nearly ten million.

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It seems Swansea can do no wrong at the moment with West Ham feeling the brunt this time.

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And top of league again :D

Though west ham have been poor, you can only play who is in front of you (I like that cliche)

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The more bubbles West Ham blow, the more we keep blowing out :D

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And now it has got even better for the Danish prince.:D

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Brendan who?? :D

If we keep this going we could be outsiders for the Europa league :)

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Now now young man less of that.:D;)

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Rooney's not even on the bench today :erm:

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I heard some punters speculating that rooney would be sub, but surprised he is not even on bench

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Maybe Man City have made a bid :D

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Wait..BBC shows Rooney on bench

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Man Utd: De Gea, Da Silva, Carrick, Vidic, Evra, Cleverley, Anderson, Valencia, Kagawa, Young, van Persie. Subs: Lindegaard, Evans, Rooney, Giggs, Hernandez, Welbeck, Scholes.

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Dang, I substitute Riise for agger, and he isn't playing :(

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Perhaps its time to send him on already.:D;)

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You've got to be kidding me..

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:D oh happy days

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I'd have been more concerned if it was in open play. OK we've got the crap defending out of the way, now to get on with the rest of the game.

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It comes to something when Swansea and Fulham are 1st and 2nd in the Premiership whilst Liverpool and United are bottom and second from bottom :spin:

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:D i feel better, i swapped downing for duff...i was wondering whether I had any chance in the real league

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That is how I prefer the league

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Ooooyah! Now that's what £22m buys you :D

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And a extra £17m gives you the lead as well.:(

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Hmmmm bit scrappy at St Marys. Cracking effort from Lallana earlier on.
He's been our best player so far.

Absolute rubbish.

It could just be one season in the Prem on this display.

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You must be disappointed with how the second half has turned out Julian.

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I watched the match Den they were so poor after last weeks showing.

Rodriguez wasn't worth the money, he really needs to step up.

The attendance was poor too.

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As much as Torres made a meal of the tackle, I like that he ran into the penalty box. Not enough players doing that, and torres last season wouldn't have.

I'm regretting not having hazard in my fantasy team. Still think he isn't all that they make him..but he is scoring points and knows how to score a penalty

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It seems that good old Torres has been given a new lease of life with that man Hazard providing the bullets.

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Yes, he is no longer shooting blanks..which is good, nothing worse than that (i hear) :D

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Two points to make, Not only did Chelsea get rid of diver Drogba, they now have two new ones in Hazard and Torres, They should both get Oscars for the dives they have performed recently. Referees have to clamp down on this before you only need to be blown over in the box and you get a penalty.

I give AVB at Tottenham two months before he is fired, he takes off VanDerVart, instead of Defoe, who was walking off waving to the crowd, and puts on Adebayor.
Spurs need at least TWO strikers to give BOTH Abe and Defoe competition.

Daniel Levy will not like the performance so far, yes it might only be the second game, but we have yet to win.

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It depends what levy and AVB are wanting.

It looks like they are trying to clear out the old guard, and get new team in, so this year is transition.

But as I never thought they should have got rid of "Harry", what do I know :)

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Wales 3 London nil :D

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Arsenal seem afraid to pass the ball into the box..gervinho had opportunity to do just that to Giroud, and just passed sideways

They need to do the one touch football, and be accurate

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Swansea are the new Arsenal..wenger should get his players to watch them

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Arsenal have been poor today so far and really need to get their act together quickly because if they continue like this the top 4 could be out of the question as they lack any cutting and scoring edge.

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Gervinho sucks

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needs to be taken off for Theo or Ox

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Only thing in their defense, they have new players. I guess not all players have an immediate impact like hazard :)

But they should spend the £40m they recently got, and buy a couple of players. Striker and midfielder

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Yes Gervinho has been another poor signing for Arsenal l am afraid.:td:

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What game have you been watching? They have played well, just need to get better finishing.

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They play itsy bitsy football up to a point but have hardly created one chance this afternoon.

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Gazorla especially has been good.

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Yes he has been the only bright spark in a very dull match.

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Maybe it is the pace that is wrong...Arsenal seem slow..but just had a spell of quicker pace..and looked better

Playing slow probably suits stoke's football...they seem ponderous (as opposed to ponderosa, bonanza ranch :D)

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Another average result. I am pleased with the way Arsenal are playing, composed, solid, mostly slick. Just need to get the goals at the moment. Still this time last year we lost 8 - 2 and a draw at Stoke isn't a bad result.

I especially think the midfield is encouraging and we're getting back some of the creativity we lost last season. Cazorla looks to be one of the signings of the season already and it's almost criminal we got him for so little. The Ox was good again, I suspect we'll see him more often now and he is shaping up to be one of our best players and one of England's best players. He has the pace, the strength and the technique. Artera carried on where he left off.

Our strikers need to adapt but let's face it, Stoke is not a great team to score against. Podoski was much better than last week and looked dangerous and Giroud showed flashes of what he is capable of. Just need these players to gel.

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Are you watching young Colin.:cleader: