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Hom3r 07-09-2015 19:26

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Should have been whole life.

Or suspended sentence, from a tree.

Osem 07-09-2015 19:45

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What a tremendous benefit to our society these people have been. :rolleyes:

Russ 19-10-2015 12:47

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Oh look....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-34570381

Julian 19-10-2015 13:25

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No surprises there.

I'm sure right now a tedious twonk is frantically searching for a story involving white men.....:rolleyes:

Taf 19-10-2015 13:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35804040)
No surprises there.

I'm sure right now a tedious twonk is frantically searching for a story involving white men.....:rolleyes:


Not persons of colour, but persons of a certain religion.

Ramrod 19-10-2015 14:45

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"Racists"......the lot of you! :D

Gary L 19-10-2015 14:52

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These are probably the ones I saw crawling up the road trying to get the young girl/girls to get into the car.

heero_yuy 19-10-2015 15:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35804042)
Not persons of colour, but persons of a certain religion.

Who also sanction marriage of 8 year old girls to dirty old men who just want legalised paedophilia in the name of their religeon. :mad:

Osem 19-10-2015 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35804053)
"Racists"......the lot of you! :D

Says the guy who's kitting out a smithy to produce his own knives, railings, etc. in order to keep all those illegal migrants out... :eeek:





;)

Ignitionnet 19-10-2015 18:23

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Deeply depressing, isn't it? One of the massive flaws with the idea of multiculturalism, some of that diversity is really, really not pleasant.

A hugely annoying thing is that the same people who are patrolling our universities and Twitter claiming that all men are rapists in waiting will happily hand the culture that has led to these horrendous events a pass.

Russ 22-10-2015 06:11

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And again...

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/138...d_sex_charges/

Taf 23-10-2015 19:17

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I hope this guy gets found guilty..

Quote:

Hazaa Said was caught by vigilante group trying to meet girl, 11, for sex
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-WhatsApp.html

Jimmy-J 23-10-2015 19:48

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And another.

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A man from Burnley has been jailed for life for kidnapping a young girl in Burnley.

34-year-old Imran Khan from Accrington was handed two life sentences at Burnley Crown Court after previously pleading guilty to kidnap, kidnap with intent to commit a sexual offence and breaching a Sexual Offences Prevention Order.
Quote:

The girl was playing on Nairne Street in Burnley when she was kidnapped last March. She was bundled into the boot of Khan's black Vauxhall Astra and driven away to Hapton where Khan exposed himself and tried to get her to commit a sexual act.

The young victim was then dumped in a wheelie bin before being found.
http://www.itv.com/news/granada/2015...-six-year-old/

Pierre 23-10-2015 22:06

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http://news.calderdale.gov.uk/taxi-d...-signs-of-cse/

Couldn't help but think, foxes guarding the chickens.

Probably a bit unfair and at least they're trying, but that was my initial reaction.

Russ 24-10-2015 07:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy-J (Post 35804776)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35804773)
I hope this guy gets found guilty..



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-WhatsApp.html

The thread is about gangs, not individuals.

Gary L 24-10-2015 09:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35804816)
The thread is about gangs, not individuals.

It was initially about one specific gang. and then people kept adding other gangs.

but yeh. needs another thread.
groups of pedos in this one.
and single pedos in the other.

Russ 27-10-2015 19:52

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(Sigh)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-34653146

Ramrod 27-10-2015 22:52

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Sweden has been having it's fair shair of trouble in this dept:
link
link
link

Osem 10-12-2015 18:43

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Twelve girls in Rotherham were repeatedly raped, beaten, passed between abusers and used as prostitutes, a court has heard.

Prosecutors told Sheffield Crown Court the girls were sexually abused from as young as 12, with some becoming pregnant.

Five men and two women face more than 60 charges, including rape and false imprisonment, over a 10 year period.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35061430

Hugh 10-12-2015 19:07

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Terrible.

heero_yuy 10-12-2015 19:18

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Just look at the names. We welcomed these monsters into our midst.:mad:

Ignitionnet 11-12-2015 12:07

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Cultural enrichment at its finest.

---------- Post added at 12:07 ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35805389)
Sweden has been having it's fair shair of trouble in this dept:
link
link
link

I find these stories racist and will choose to follow the example of most Swedes in pretending none of it is happening and none of it is true.

Nearly as tragically comical as the immigrant 'children' they are allowing into the schools claiming to be in their early-mid teens while there is clear evidence they are in their 20s.

On your left is Sweden's 'fastest 14 year old'. The man on the right is on whatever planet they're living on 16.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/12/9.jpg

Ramrod 11-12-2015 12:13

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Speechless.....:(

nomadking 11-12-2015 12:37

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Finland
Quote:

Newspapers are full of statistics about how an asylum seeker is eight times more likely to commit rape that a Finnish national, and increasing numbers of the country’s 5.5 million people are starting to feel at threat.
Would be interesting to know what is the basis for the 8x figure. If it's just based on a simple headcount even a male only one, then Finnish males who are too young or old would be included in that side of the stats. That would mean that for comparable male populations the figure is a lot more than 8x as a disproportionate number of the asylum seekers are teenage or adult males.

Do they behave like that in their "home" countries? Are "asylum seeking" males from those countries any more likely to commit rape than those here, there, and everywhere by any other mechanisms?

ianch99 11-12-2015 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35812396)
Cultural enrichment at its finest.

---------- Post added at 12:07 ---------- Previous post was at 12:02 ----------



I find these stories racist and will choose to follow the example of most Swedes in pretending none of it is happening and none of it is true.

Nearly as tragically comical as the immigrant 'children' they are allowing into the schools claiming to be in their early-mid teens while there is clear evidence they are in their 20s.

On your left is Sweden's 'fastest 14 year old'. The man on the right is on whatever planet they're living on 16.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2015/12/9.jpg

Have you been drinking?

Ramrod 11-12-2015 19:54

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I think he's sober.

---------- Post added at 19:54 ---------- Previous post was at 19:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35812404)
Finland
Would be interesting to know what is the basis for the 8x figure. If it's just based on a simple headcount even a male only one, then Finnish males who are too young or old would be included in that side of the stats. That would mean that for comparable male populations the figure is a lot more than 8x as a disproportionate number of the asylum seekers are teenage or adult males.

Do they behave like that in their "home" countries? Are "asylum seeking" males from those countries any more likely to commit rape than those here, there, and everywhere by any other mechanisms?

What are you saying?:confused:

Russ 11-12-2015 20:50

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I think he's saying he doesn't understand that this thread is about the Asian sex gangs that keep showing up in court.

Ramrod 11-12-2015 23:34

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I don't read his comment that way but I suppose we'll have to wait for him to reply.

nomadking 12-12-2015 00:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35812469)
I think he's sober.

---------- Post added at 19:54 ---------- Previous post was at 19:46 ----------

What are you saying?:confused:

You were the one posing similar links about Sweden.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35812482)
I think he's saying he doesn't understand that this thread is about the Asian sex gangs that keep showing up in court.

The "Asian" sex gangs pimped the victims around to others. Those others commit rape but are not part of the gang, but they ARE part of the criminal offences connected to the gangs. Without them what would the gangs do?

If when coming up with a ratio of offenders by group, one grouping has a disproportionate number of people who can't offend, then the ratio will be wrong. IE if a ratio of 8 to 1 is given and the 1 side of the equation has very young boys eg 5 year old, and very old eg 90 years old. then the proportion in that side is lower, making the real ratio for the 8x side much higher. Bit like trying to compare something linked to driving, when one side includes male and female drivers, but the other only includes male drivers.

Eg NB The actual numbers do not matter. 2,000 of a group of 1million, then a 8x ratio would give 800 for a population of 50,000. If then the group of 1 million should have half excluded to give comparable figures, then the ratio DOUBLES to 16x. 8x is scary enough, but potentially higher should be even scarier.

It cannot be denied that a disproportionate number of asylum seekers are not from the 5 year old or 90 year old sections. It may well be that they been already excluded when coming up with the 8x figure but I'm not aware of anything in either direction.

Taf 08-02-2016 15:34

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...140-YEARS.html

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2016/02/25.jpg

Osem 08-02-2016 16:01

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I'm sure they've made a net contribution to our society though...

TheDaddy 17-02-2016 08:24

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Am I missing something or are we deporting him before he's finished his sentence?

Why aren't we going after the cash in his account?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...st-deportation

Osem 24-02-2016 13:24

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Quote:

Three brothers and two women have been found guilty of offences relating to the sexual abuse of teenage girls in Rotherham.

Arshid and Basharat Hussain were found guilty of multiple rapes and indecent assaults in the South Yorkshire town.

A third brother, Bannaras Hussain, 36, admitted 10 charges including rape, indecent assault and assault occasioning actual bodily harm at the beginning of the trial.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35651366

Is this still the tip of an iceberg I wonder...

Osem 08-04-2016 15:40

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Quote:

Nine men who committed sexual offences against eight girls and women have been jailed for up to 25 years.

The men abused their victims aged 13 to 22, mainly in Rochdale, Greater Manchester between 2005 and 2010.

The principal victim came forward after a number of men of mainly Pakistani heritage were jailed in 2012 for grooming white girls in the town.

A tenth man was jailed for five-and-a-half years last September for sexual activity with the girl.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-35982241

Taf 08-04-2016 15:44

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So what's the running total of abusers? They all seem to be blending into one long blur of filth.....

nomadking 08-04-2016 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35831474)
So what's the running total of abusers? They all seem to be blending into one long blur of filth.....

The official figures will only include the convictions. The dozens not convicted but who are taking part in these sorts of activities are not.
EG.These will NOT be included.
Quote:

hundreds of men would ring her up wanting sex

Escapee 08-04-2016 18:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35831483)
The official figures will only include the convictions. The dozens not convicted but who are taking part in these sorts of activities are not.
EG.These will NOT be included.

Exactly, it seems like every witness says they were abused by a large number of Muslim men, as in this case often claims are abuse carried out by hundreds. Then if you think that each girl involved in the ring may not have been abused by the exact same men, multiply that by the number of gangs that have been convicted over the past 10 years......

As most of these men are of Pakistani heritage, I wonder what percentage of the UK Pakistani male population these hundreds possibly thousands involved will equate to when we get the final figures.

I very much doubt this will be the last Pakistani gang that end up in court.

Taf 08-04-2016 18:50

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I think these vile creatures may decide that allowing these girls to walk away and spill the beans is no longer an option.

Osem 08-04-2016 18:57

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Sooner or later someone or other is bound to start whining about the unfairness/racism inherent in our legal system citing the disproportionate representation of certain minorities in sex crimes of this nature.

Hugh 08-04-2016 22:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35831510)
Sooner or later someone or other is bound to start whining about the unfairness/racism inherent in our legal system citing the disproportionate representation of certain minorities in sex crimes of this nature.

Then they should be given a good slap...

Gary L 08-04-2016 22:56

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The summer's coming. you'll see them crawling past the white girls in their cars again.

richard s 09-04-2016 19:36

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One of the vile creatures has gone back to Pakistan.

Taf 15-04-2016 18:06

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An individual has done a runner. Warrant for his arrest has been issued.

Quote:

Abdullah Hardari-Moqadam thought he was waiting for a schoolgirl he had been grooming online when he was confronted by members of the vigilante paedophile hunters, Dark Justice.

The 25-year-old, who was on bail, was due at Newcastle Crown Court to be sentenced yesterday.

Maggy 16-04-2016 09:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35831534)
Then they should be given a good slap...

:clap:

Arthurgray50@blu 16-04-2016 19:57

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I go one further - l would bring back the death penalty for them.

TheDaddy 17-04-2016 07:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35832796)
I go one further - l would bring back the death penalty for them.


What for whining about perceived racism, it's a bit draconian but it's the only way they'll learn

Hugh 17-04-2016 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35832846)
What for whining about perceived racism, it's a bit draconian but it's the only way they'll learn

Firm, but fair...

Escapee 11-06-2016 14:26

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Only a small gang in court this time.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-3650713...1482622446#_=_

Osem 11-06-2016 16:13

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Well to be fair the 4 Syrians haven't been found guilty if anything yet but it'll be interesting to see how this case pans out.

From the above link:

Quote:

Three Syrian men have appeared in court accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl in a park in Newcastle.

Omar Badreddin, 18, Mohammed Alfrouh, 20, and Mohammad Allakkoud, 18, have pleaded not guilty.

A 16-year-old-boy, understood to be Syrian, has also been charged with sexual assault. It is not known if he has entered a plea yet.

Mr Badreddin came to the UK from Jordan last November under the government's refugee resettlement programme.

He and his family were judged to be vulnerable by the UN refugee agency.

Osem 04-11-2016 18:02

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Eight men who sexually abused three teenage girls in Rotherham between 1999 and 2003 have been jailed.
The men are Sageer Hussain, Ishtiaq Khaliq, Waleed Ali, Masoued Malik, Asif Ali, Naeem Rafiq, Basharat Hussain and Mohammed Whied.
They were jailed at Sheffield Crown Court, having been convicted of a total of 16 charges after a trial.
The judge said their victims had been "targeted, sexualised and subjected to degrading and violent acts."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37873340

Yet more animals preying on vulnerable young people let down by those who should have been protecting them.

heero_yuy 04-11-2016 18:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35867730)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37873340

Yet more animals preying on vulnerable young people let down by those who should have been protecting them.

Just look at the names, no doubt welcomed into the country with open arms. :rolleyes:

RizzyKing 04-11-2016 21:42

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There does seem to be a very serious cultural issue here that needs resolving quickly and we need to start being far stricter with whom gets into this country as i seriously doubt they were saints till they arrived here. I think the entire refugee\asylum system needs to be thoroughly overhauled and we need to start putting basic requirements needing to be shown before even contemplating admission into the UK. As for any animal that preys on women or youngsters of any sex personally if it was upto me they'd be left in a room with 10 real parents and a tray of sharp implements. But failing that long prison sentences that they actually serve and on their day of release a nice ride to the nearest airport and a oneway trip back to where they came from.

It's time to stop talking about protecting and actually do it and if we have to build more prisons to accomplish it then build them no more early release because prisons are full and anyone that came here as a refugee or immigrant of any other sort is removed from the UK and if they return it's a life imprisonment sentence they will get.

Pierre 23-03-2017 23:02

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-39368278

Going out on a limb, could be wrong. Apologise if it turns out I am.

But how many of these will be called Smith or Khan ????

Gary L 23-03-2017 23:05

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Mohammed or Muhammed.

nomadking 23-03-2017 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35891500)
Mohammed or Muhammed.

8 out of 27 by the looks of it. No "Smith"s or "Khan"s, but there are 2 "Singh"s and a "La Bastide".

Russ 24-03-2017 00:50

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All a coincidence, naturally.

Osem 01-04-2017 23:38

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Seven men have been charged in connection with a major child sexual exploitation investigation in Oxford.
Police officers carried out arrests on Thursday in connection with alleged sex offences against females which occurred between 2008 and 2015.
Six men were charged with the rape of a girl under 16 as well as other sexual offences, while a seventh man was charged with conspiracy to rape.
Six men - all from Oxford - will appear before Oxford magistrates.
They are: Shabir Dogar, 22; Shabaz Khan, 23; Shohab Dogar, 23; Yasin Hamid, 20; Usman Iddris, 22; and Joseph Suraina, 22.
Waqas Hussain, 24, of no fixed abode, will appear at Oxford Magistrates' Court on 4 April.
Mr Hussain has also been charged with the attempted sexual assault of a girl under 13, as have Shabir Dogar and Shohab Dogar.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-39466980

Taf 12-04-2017 19:05

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27 men and two women appear in court accused of child trafficking, rape and sex abuse against 18 girls as young as 11 over seven years


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lect-case.html

Ramrod 12-04-2017 20:41

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Child abuse seems to be endemic across the world but these cases 'oop north' seem to be out of all proportion to what could reasonably be expected. Is there any common denominator here?
Quote:

On 2 February 2017, another six men were given sentences of up to 20 years after the court heard details of how two young girls were sexually abused in Rotherham between 1999 and 2001. One of the girls was made pregnant when she was 12 years old. After sentencing, two of the convicted men shouted "Allahu Akbar" as they were led out of the court.
Just wondering....... :dozey:

TheDaddy 13-04-2017 02:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35894429)
Child abuse seems to be endemic across the world but these cases 'oop north' seem to be out of all proportion to what could reasonably be expected. Is there any common denominator here?

Just wondering....... :dozey:

Why would they shout that? How can they think their God will be happy with them for raping children?

Taf 11-05-2017 14:33

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Quote:

Three Girls?

The first of three episodes is on BBC One at 9pm on Tuesday 16 May 2017.

Three Girls is a three-part BBC drama focusing on the 2012 grooming and sex trafficking case in Rochdale where forty-seven girls were identified as victims of child sexual exploitation.

The organised sex ring worked to secure underage girls for sex who in some cases were given alcohol and small amounts of money in exchange for silence.

The series has been made with the full cooperation of the victims and their families and aims to tell the victims’ stories and explain how the abuse has impacted their lives.
https://youtu.be/VQ2ryGqF2es

Osem 21-05-2017 09:51

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A man who fled to Pakistan after raping a teenage girl has been jailed after he was caught trying to return to the UK.
Amar Mehraj, 29, was one of four men who gang raped a 17-year-old girl while she was unconscious in July 2009 in Oldbury, West Midlands.
He then left the country but was caught at Birmingham Airport in November.
Police said Mehraj had been jailed for nine years and nine months after admitting taking part in the attack. Three other men were jailed in 2010.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-39989646

Taf 21-05-2017 13:08

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It sickens me that our legal system, and our money, is being used to prevent the sentence of deportation from being carried out on animals who were sentenced over 4 years ago!

OLD BOY 24-05-2017 19:08

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Looks like that will have to wait for the parliament after next. Theresa will have her work cut out with Brexit and combatting terrorism.

In the unlikely event that Corbyn gets in, he will just lop a few billions to the Home Office, and hey, presto, problem solved! I don't think.

Julian 09-08-2017 15:20

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And yet another huge gang of asian perverts

Osem 09-08-2017 16:00

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More ****. Let's hope sentencing is punitive.

pip08456 09-08-2017 16:04

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Castrate and deport. They won't want to become suicide bombers then as even hundreds of virgins won't be of any use to them.

Taf 09-08-2017 16:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35911637)
More ****. Let's hope sentencing is punitive.


Some of the earlier child rapists are already out or about to be. :mad:

Osem 09-08-2017 16:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35911645)
Some of the earlier child rapists are already out or about to be. :mad:

That ought to beggar belief but how sad it doesn't...

Taf 10-08-2017 13:13

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A fear of being called racist is preventing authorities investigating the reasons behind child abuse cases, an MP has claimed.

Rotherham MP Sarah Champion was speaking after 17 men were convicted of forcing girls in Newcastle to have sex.

Mostly British-born, they are from Iraqi, Bangladeshi, Pakistani, Indian, Iranian and Turkish communities.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-40886658

Oh oh, one of our elected elite has stated the obvious....

RichardCoulter 12-08-2017 01:11

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Interesting programme about this subject:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b092q9qr

RichardCoulter 19-10-2018 20:33

Further Asian gang jailed for child abuse.
 
Yet again we see a case of Asian (Pakistani) men convicted of abuse, rape and violence against children, this time aged 11+.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

Whilst doing a search to see if a thread already existed, I found a thread from 2009 on cablehell, showing that this has been going on for many, many years.

It seems that the police think that turning a blind eye is an act of political correctness, it is not racist to deal with Asian paedophiles.

Obviously, paedophiles come from allsorts of races, but it seems to be a particular problem with Asian men. Perhaps it's because of their traditional attitude towards females? If they want to live by the attitudes of their heritage, perhaps we should punish them likewise?

There ought to be a root and branch investigation to see why there are so many Asian gangs attracted to (mainly) underage white little girls.

My heart goes out to these children, who are unlikely to ever recover from this for the rest of their lives.

Taf 19-10-2018 20:38

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The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.

Russ 19-10-2018 20:38

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There's already a thread for this.

RichardCoulter 19-10-2018 20:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35967125)
The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.

They weren't originally allowed to due to reporting restrictions which they managed to get lifted today.

Russ 19-10-2018 20:45

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https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...ighlight=asian

Damien 19-10-2018 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35967125)
The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.

Not that careful...

Quote:

During the three trials, jurors heard how the men - who are all British Asians mainly of Pakistani heritage - preyed on young, vulnerable girls, one of whom was described as having the mental age of a seven-year-old.

Pierre 19-10-2018 21:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 35967125)
The BBC has been VERY careful not to mention their religion or ethnic origin... whilst showing the same 20 mugshots.

Whilst they were nearly all Muslim, one of them was a Sikh.

I don’t think religion has that much in it. Men preying on vulnerable girls, doesn’t matter where they come from.

pip08456 19-10-2018 21:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967136)
Whilst they were nearly all Muslim, one of them was a Sikh.

I don’t think religion has that much in it. Men preying on vulnerable girls, doesn’t matter where they come from.

Yet so far in all the cases muslims have been in the majority by far.

denphone 19-10-2018 21:32

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967136)
Whilst they were nearly all Muslim, one of them was a Sikh.

I don’t think religion has that much in it. Men preying on vulnerable girls, doesn’t matter where they come from.

Sadly yesterdays headlines proved your point.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fred-rose-...-sh&soc_trk=fb

Pierre 19-10-2018 22:45

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35967137)
Yet so far in all the cases muslims have been in the majority by far.

Not denying there is an issue with Asian/sub-continent men. The evidence speaks for itself.

But also, it’s not young girls from middle class backgrounds that are being raped, regardless of who rapes them.

Young girls abandoned and ignored by the authorities, tacitly allowed to be abused by these men with no appetite to stop them.

I do not in any way excuse these vile men, but their job was made easy.

Maggy 20-10-2018 09:04

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

During the trials, the court heard girls would be driven up to remote moorland late at night and abandoned if they refused the men's sexual demands.

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A sheep farmer told the BBC how he found distressed girls on the doorstep of his isolated home on a number of occasions.

One victim said her relationship with some of the gang became "one of those things that you couldn't get out of".
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Victims and their families said they repeatedly told West Yorkshire Police what was happening but no arrests were made until years later.
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Barry Sheerman, Labour MP for Huddersfield, said: "Let's be honest: no-one, local authority leadership, police, many of the people that should have been taking this more seriously earlier did not.
Basically no one in authority wanted to know.

Angua 20-10-2018 10:05

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35967138)
Sadly yesterdays headlines proved your point.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fred-rose-...-sh&soc_trk=fb

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Originally Posted by Maggy J (Post 35967152)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

During the trials, the court heard girls would be driven up to remote moorland late at night and abandoned if they refused the men's sexual demands.


Basically no one in authority wanted to know.

Attitudes towards young vulnerable children are at the heart of all these crimes, whether within groups of men (and some very twisted women) from a similar background, or those within some churches, it is the industrial scale of abuse that is so horrific.

Wherever this attitude comes from needs changing. No use just wringing hands and imprisoning the malefactors. The idea that this is either normal or acceptable, or turning a blind eye for fear of being called racist, or seeing it as protecting their own daughters by accepting this abuse of others vulnerable children needs to stop.

Teach your sons not to rape anyone. Teach them to respect the word no, and that no means no, not maybe or possibly or they didn't mean it, teach them that a short skirt or being in the wrong place does not mean they are fair game. Most of all teach them the law about the age of consent.

nomadking 20-10-2018 10:24

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To seemingly be able to simply ask the person next to you if they want to take part is quite staggering. These gangs seem to form more easily than for other groups taking part in more innocent and innocuous activities(eg pub quiz teams, football, bowling etc), and especially as it has to remain a secret. How are these gangs also establishing links with others around the country in order for the girls to be trafficked to those other areas?


People try to make comparisons with church related abuse, but the difference is that the offenders tended to be in positions in the church and not ordinary rank-and-file parishioners.

Angua 20-10-2018 10:40

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 35967161)
To seemingly be able to simply ask the person next to you if they want to take part is quite staggering. These gangs seem to form more easily than for other groups taking part in more innocent and innocuous activities(eg pub quiz teams, football, bowling etc), and especially as it has to remain a secret. How are these gangs also establishing links with others around the country in order for the girls to be trafficked to those other areas?


People try to make comparisons with church related abuse, but the difference is that the offenders tended to be in positions in the church and not ordinary rank-and-file parishioners.

As I pointed out above, it does not matter who, why or how, this needs stamping on, wherever this attitude towards vulnerable children is allowed to thrive.

nomadking 20-10-2018 10:46

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35967165)
As I pointed out above, it does not matter who, why or how, this needs stamping on, wherever this attitude towards vulnerable children is allowed to thrive.

But simply being able to ask the person next to you, shows that the attitude is endemic and ingrained.

Russ 20-10-2018 11:16

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35967160)

Teach your sons not to rape anyone.

No thanks, I'm not interested in creating a feeling of automatic guilt-by-gender in my son. I'll teach him, just as I will my daughters, to be a good person.

Yes there absolutely is a fundamental problem in society with these gangs and trying to paint over the persistent common denominator only helps hide the problem.

'Lone wolf' sex offenders can indeed be any gender, colour, race, religion etc. No sane person will disagree with that.

However only an idiot will try to deny the fact that every time a grooming gang ends up in court the number of white British men involved disappears.

If anyone persists in trying to denying that, type "grooming gang in court" in Google and tell me how many pages you have to go through until a non-Asian name appears in the list of suspect.

As they say these days, "I'll wait".

Pierre 20-10-2018 14:51

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35967160)
Teach your sons not to rape

That’s got to go down as the weirdest quote of the day.

That like saying all “sons” are rapists by nature and we should nurture them not to do it?

RichardCoulter 20-10-2018 14:58

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35967124)
Yet again we see a case of Asian (Pakistani) men convicted of abuse, rape and violence against children, this time aged 11+.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-45918845

Whilst doing a search to see if a thread already existed, I found a thread from 2009 on cablehell, showing that this has been going on for many, many years.

It seems that the police think that turning a blind eye is an act of political correctness, it is not racist to deal with Asian paedophiles.

Obviously, paedophiles come from allsorts of races, but it seems to be a particular problem with Asian men. Perhaps it's because of their traditional attitude towards females? If they want to live by the attitudes of their heritage, perhaps we should punish them likewise?

There ought to be a root and branch investigation to see why there are so many Asian gangs attracted to (mainly) underage white little girls.

My heart goes out to these children, who are unlikely to ever recover from this for the rest of their lives.

A member of their own community has come out in a BBC interview and stated that he thinks it is a particular problem with Pakistani men because of their attitudes towards women.

He went onto say that it seems to be white girls that are targeted as they are easier to gain access to and manipulate with drink & drugs.

I can't help but think that racism plays it's part in them not wanting to do it to their own.

Russ 20-10-2018 15:27

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967196)
That’s got to go down as the weirdest quote of the day.

In my view the most insulting of the year. Likely longer.

Hom3r 20-10-2018 20:22

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These types crimes need a mandatory whole life tariff, in some remote prison miles from anywhere surronded by a military testing site etc.

Only 1 visit a month and NO internet, games consoles nor live TV.

Food should be basic, just above minimum recommended calories a day.

When they die there burried inside.


I would say a bullet in the back of the head but the namby pamby wishy washys will block it.

richard s 20-10-2018 20:54

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That is way to kind we still have to pay for them. Just drop them off inside the Artic circle and let the Polar bears have a field day.

RichardCoulter 20-10-2018 21:34

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We don't respond in a medieval manner because as a society we are much more civilised than these people.

Severe punishment is needed though.

Angua 20-10-2018 22:18

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35967196)
That’s got to go down as the weirdest quote of the day.

That like saying all “sons” are rapists by nature and we should nurture them not to do it?

What is so blummin wrong with it? Do you honestly think the mothers and fathers of these child groomers ever bothered to do this?

Russ 20-10-2018 22:51

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Originally Posted by Angua (Post 35967247)
What is so blummin wrong with it? Do you honestly think the mothers and fathers of these child groomers ever bothered to do this?

The fact you see nothing wrong with it is troubling.

You apparently have no idea what you're accusing my son of being capable of.

nomadking 21-10-2018 00:24

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Originally Posted by richard s (Post 35967239)
That is way to kind we still have to pay for them. Just drop them off inside the Artic circle and let the Polar bears have a field day.

Actually it's the rest of us that are expected to leave the country.


Several years ago there was a TV documentary where girls were harassed by Muslims. Elderly people were forced from sitting in a park by having stones thrown at them. They moved to another park and the attacks continued. These attacks were captured on camera, but the people behind the documentary put it all down to "youthful exuberance".

Russ 21-10-2018 04:16

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Do you think it wouldn't have happened if they weren't Muslim?

Angua 21-10-2018 09:52

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35967266)
Do you think it wouldn't have happened if they weren't Muslim?

It can and it does.

RichardCoulter 21-10-2018 18:08

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It is apparant that muslims (and other black/asian groups) are being treated with kid gloves as the police are petrified of being labelled as being racist and so tend to ignore any complaints as 'racially sensitive', 'cultural differences' etc.

The same goes for local authorities too.

OLD BOY 22-10-2018 09:26

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35967312)
It is apparant that muslims (and other black/asian groups) are being treated with kid gloves as the police are petrified of being labelled as being racist and so tend to ignore any complaints as 'racially sensitive', 'cultural differences' etc.

The same goes for local authorities too.

Except that it has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with appalling criminal behaviour.


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