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bizarre_opinion 01-02-2011 12:26

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
quick speed test.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/151.png

qasdfdsaq 01-02-2011 12:27

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35163391)

Funny how they quote expected speeds then link a page about "speed honesty" yet the numbers they spout are wrought with hypocrisy.

They couldn't even get their own prices right, criticise Infinity for having speeds dependant on location (and then conveniently forget to mention their 3mb upload speed is actually 1mb in most locations), wildly overestimate their own expected download speeds based on data only they can see (and which disagrees with the most recent publicly available data). They claim to be honest by publishing average speeds then publish average speeds that are completely different from the data they claim it's based on! Oh and also conveniently omitted is their policy of reducing your speed by 75% if you use your full connection for more than 20 minutes at peak times.

Mhmm. Speed honesty.

[Edit] Dammit, spelling. Anyone know how to get Firefox 4b10 to spellcheck?

vanman 01-02-2011 12:29

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35163459)
Ok I thought there was, there should be really tho.

there is no 20mb any more its
10mb
30mb
50mb
100mb

http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband.html

pip08456 01-02-2011 12:33

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35163467)
Funny how they quote expected speeds then link a page about "speed honesty" yet the numbers they spout are wrought with hipocrisy.

They couldn't even get their own prices right, criticise Infinity for having speeds dependant on location (and then conveniently forget to mention their 3mb upload speed is actually 1mb in most locations), wildly overestimate their own expected download speeds based on data only they can see (and which disagrees with the most recent publicly available data). They claim to be honest by publishing average speeds then publish average speeds that are completely different from the data they claim it's based on! Oh and also conveniently omitted is their policy of reducing your speed by 75% if you use your full connection for more than 20 minutes at peak times.

Mhmm. Speed honesty.

It's what's known as "cherrypicking!" https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/135.jpg

burns 01-02-2011 12:34

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quick question:

Is the SuperHub a worthwhile upgrade over a standard wirless-n router? I gather it is basically a wireless-n router?

Thanks

millsman 01-02-2011 12:34

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
My bill states that I am paying £20.75 for M Broadband so why is the new
30mb service £18.75

pip08456 01-02-2011 12:34

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35163470)
there is no 20mb any more its
10mb
30mb
50mb
100mb

http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband.html

Surely you mean they aren't selling 20Mb any more!

Chrysalis 01-02-2011 12:35

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35163467)
Funny how they quote expected speeds then link a page about "speed honesty" yet the numbers they spout are wrought with hipocrisy.

They couldn't even get their own prices right, criticise Infinity for having speeds dependant on location (and then conveniently forget to mention their 3mb upload speed is actually 1mb in most locations), wildly overestimate their own expected download speeds based on data only they can see (and which disagrees with the most recent publicly available data). They claim to be honest by publishing average speeds then publish average speeds that are completely different from the data they claim it's based on! Oh and also conveniently omitted is their policy of reducing your speed by 75% if you use your full connection for more than 20 minutes at peak times.

Mhmm. Speed honesty.

indeed, VM not area dependent for performance? :rofl:

pip08456 01-02-2011 12:35

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burns (Post 35163477)
Quick question:

Is the SuperHub a worthwhile upgrade over a standard wirless-n router? I gather it is basically a wireless-n router?

Thanks

It is a modem/router combined and the modem side can handle 8 downstream channels and 4 upstream channels. The router side is c**p!

Blackened 01-02-2011 12:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163463)
I needed a tech too and all she said to me was the system was saying a tech is required because of the property even though i've been on Virgin over 10 years, and i think my power levels are fine. I could have got a tech for next Tuesday but i didn't want to take a day off work again so managed to get a Sat morning install for the 19th.

Mine's coming on Thurs afternoon - the missus is off that day anyway. I've self installed the last two hubs myself but I guess there must be some levels issue like Whizzard says.

Chrysalis 01-02-2011 12:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163476)
It's what's known as "cherrypicking!" https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...011/02/135.jpg

I would more rather say what VM did is lieing.

There is numerous lies in their statements.

You dont have a problem with VM saying this?

Quote:

Perfect for families going online at the same time,
downloading movies, online gaming and more.

Unlimited1 downloads

Blackened 01-02-2011 12:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163463)
I needed a tech too and all she said to me was the system was saying a tech is required because of the property even though i've been on Virgin over 10 years, and i think my power levels are fine. I could have got a tech for next Tuesday but i didn't want to take a day off work again so managed to get a Sat morning install for the 19th.

Mine's coming on Thurs afternoon - the missus is off that day anyway and I've got an early finish. I've self installed the last two hubs myself but I guess there must be some levels issue like Whizzard says.

pip08456 01-02-2011 12:37

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackened (Post 35163484)
Mine's coming on Thurs afternoon - the missus is off that day anyway. I've self installed the last two hubs myself but I guess there must be some levels issue like Whizzard says.

If you have a spare superhub qasdfdsaq is looking for one to canabalise!

burns 01-02-2011 12:38

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163483)
It is a modem/router combined and the modem side can handle 8 downstream channels and 4 upstream channels. The router side is c**p!

Thanks, would you say its worth upgrading then?

Blackened 01-02-2011 12:38

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vanman (Post 35163470)
there is no 20mb any more its
10mb
30mb
50mb
100mb

http://shop.virginmedia.com/broadband.html

Maybe not for new sales, but 20mb still exists.

Broadband package
Size: S
Size: M
Size: L
Size: XL 20
Size: XL 30
Size: XXL

http://shop.virginmedia.com/help/tra...nt-policy.html

vanman 01-02-2011 12:39

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163480)
Surely you mean they aren't selling 20Mb any more!

i may mean that but does it really matter.
are you bored and feel the need to correct me for something to do ;)

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 12:39

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burns (Post 35163489)
Thanks, would you say its worth upgrading then?

It is for a 50% speed increase without a monthly increase, infact my bill has gone down 50 pence.

qasdfdsaq 01-02-2011 12:40

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163488)
If you have a spare superhub qasdfdsaq is looking for one to canabalise!

:D:D:D
I'll even cover postage :p:

Damien 01-02-2011 12:41

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
So what do I have to do to upgrade? If the monthly cost has gone for the 20mb package do I get price reduction? What is this number I need to phone?

Horizon 01-02-2011 12:41

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowTD (Post 35163447)
I'm going to wait for the dust to settle on this one. I've read in the last few pages that I'll get the upgraded TOS without doing anything, or I'll have to call but won't have to pay £30, or I'll have to pay.

I realise that the amount of people who have a Super Hub on 20Mb is probably about 20 people, all on here. I'll harang VM next week I think. :)

Next week is a good idea. I'm sure there are more than 20 people with a superhub and it's not clear for us yet which way this will go.

I forget to add in my previous post that customer services is closed on Sunday while they do system upgrades. So hopefully all should be fine for next week. Fingers crossed.

Blackened 01-02-2011 12:44

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35163496)
So what do I have to do to upgrade? If the monthly cost has gone for the 20mb package do I get price reduction? What is this number I need to phone?

I went through 150

burns 01-02-2011 12:45

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163492)
It is for a 50% speed increase without a monthly increase, infact my bill has gone down 50 pence.

Sorry I meant, is it worth having the SuperHub over the wireless-n router I already have? Or do you have to have the SuperHub to upgrade to 30mb?

Thanks

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 12:48

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by burns (Post 35163503)
Sorry I meant, is it worth having the SuperHub over the wireless-n router I already have? Or do you have to have the SuperHub to upgrade to 30mb?

Thanks

You have to have the Superhub as you need DOCSIS 3.

---------- Post added at 11:48 ---------- Previous post was at 11:46 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35163496)
So what do I have to do to upgrade? If the monthly cost has gone for the 20mb package do I get price reduction? What is this number I need to phone?

You can either upgrade online http://shop.virginmedia.com/existing...broadband.html or phone CS, the number i used was 0845 454 1111.

pip08456 01-02-2011 12:51

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35163496)
So what do I have to do to upgrade? If the monthly cost has gone for the 20mb package do I get price reduction? What is this number I need to phone?

Who says the monthy cost has gone? You have a service, you pay for it. If you wish to upgrade to 30Mb ATM it will cost you £30 for activation. Meantime you keep paying the cost of your 20Mb service.:D

Damien 01-02-2011 12:52

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163510)
Who says the monthy cost has gone? You have a service, you pay for it. If you wish to upgrade to 30Mb ATM it will cost you £30 for activation. Meantime you keep paying the cost of your 20Mb service.:D

Meant to say 'gone down' :dunce:

pip08456 01-02-2011 12:53

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35163493)
:D:D:D
I'll even cover postage :p:

I'm doing my best for you! :D:D:D

Blackened 01-02-2011 12:54

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35163511)
Meant to say 'gone down' :dunce:

Mine's gone down.

Chrysalis 01-02-2011 12:55

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
when I plug in my superhub will it automatically go on the 30mbit speeds?

my modem right now is still on 20mbit.

pip08456 01-02-2011 12:56

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
What?! Problems already?!

Most surprising!

whizzard 01-02-2011 12:59

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163517)
What?! Problems already?!

Most surprising!

I think they meant their price, not the service. ;)

Milambar 01-02-2011 13:00

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35163516)
when I plug in my superhub will it automatically go on the 30mbit speeds?

my modem right now is still on 20mbit.

Same here, but I'm guessing it won't get the 30mbit config file until the servers detect the presence of a docsis3.0 capable modem.

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 13:01

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Can a passing mod please put the upgrade link on the first post to make it easier for everyone. :)

Helix 01-02-2011 13:02

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
If you fill in the form online do they just process the upgrade, or will then send and email asking you to call them like they normally do. Defeating the whole object of upgrading online.

Dan_Man 01-02-2011 13:02

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Seen on the existing customer offer page that they are now waiving activation and installation payments on the 50Mb package.......If I'm going to pay £30 activation anyway for the 30Mb package why not save on this payment and it will pay for 6 months of the price increase for the 50Mb package......

Question is now do I really want 50Mb?????

Hugh 01-02-2011 13:03

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163521)
Can a passing mod please put the upgrade link on the first post to make it easier for everyone. :)

Done.

Horizon 01-02-2011 13:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Man (Post 35163525)
Seen on the existing customer offer page that they are now waiving activation and installation payments on the 50Mb package.......If I'm going to pay £30 activation anyway for the 30Mb package why not save on this payment and it will pay for 6 months of the price increase for the 50Mb package......

Question is now do I really want 50Mb?????

Ooh, that's interesting.:)

Blackened 01-02-2011 13:11

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Man (Post 35163525)

Question is now do I really want 50Mb?????

I'd hang on. 30mb will probably be getting a free upgrade to 50mb anyway.


*runs*

v0id 01-02-2011 13:15

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
No menus on that 0800 number, sweet, short conversation, superhub being delivered sometime Thursday by UPS and apparently my bills £1.50p/m cheaper afterwards to boot :)

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 13:16

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35163537)
No menus on that 0800 number, sweet, short conversation, superhub being delivered sometime Thursday by UPS and apparently my bills £1.50p/m cheaper afterwards to boot :)

Did they say it was a 12 month contract like they did with me?

Horizon 01-02-2011 13:27

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Ok - quick update. Called retentions again and they said that if I wanted to upgrade to 50mb it would cost more as I'm on a deal even though they're charging new customers the same for 50mb as what they were charging for 20mb yesterday. But the good news is that systems are just starting to be upgraded for 30mb and it should be completed by the end of the week. So next Monday, I'll be checking again.

v0id 01-02-2011 13:28

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163538)
Did they say it was a 12 month contract like they did with me?


Never asked, but I always assume it will be whenever I change any part of my services.
Honestly, I don't care either way. I haven't switched providers in 12 years and only ever phoned 'retentions' once in that time so it's not like I'm going anywhere else ;)

BenRichards 01-02-2011 13:35

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by v0id (Post 35163537)
No menus on that 0800 number, sweet, short conversation, superhub being delivered sometime Thursday by UPS and apparently my bills £1.50p/m cheaper afterwards to boot :)

Identical experience here. the whole process from dialing the number to putting the phone down lasted all of 4 minutes!!!

jtaylor06 01-02-2011 13:41

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Just ordered.
However being at work, I'm unable to access my email.
Will I need to ring up, or is it all being done without the need of calling them up?
Alternatively, will they call if anything?

Sorry about the questions :)

Horizon 01-02-2011 13:41

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
For those of you who are getting the superhubs you'll have the "pleasure" of activating them via the Indian call centres. Have fun!:) But apart from that, the process was seamless when I got mine and on Christmas Eve too.

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 13:43

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35163560)
Just ordered.
However being at work, I'm unable to access my email.
Will I need to ring up, or is it all being done without the need of calling them up?
Alternatively, will they call if anything?

Sorry about the questions :)

You need to check your email because when i did it on the 18th of Jan i got an email on the 19th asking me to phone them, this was probably due to the system saying i needed a manned install.

jtaylor06 01-02-2011 13:44

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163565)
You need to check your email because when i did it on the 18th on Jan i got an email on the 19th asking me to phone them, this was probably due to the system saying i needed a manned install.

Thanks for the reply! :)
Ah yes, I remember ringing up before and the call centre lady was thinking "What the hell". That was a funny and weird conversation.

Will let you know later at about 5 how things went.

Chrysalis 01-02-2011 13:46

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35163562)
For those of you who are getting the superhubs you'll have the "pleasure" of activating them via the Indian call centres. Have fun!:) But apart from that, the process was seamless when I got mine and on Christmas Eve too.

why cant do online activation, far more efficient.

if I dont get a uk rep for activation I will consider returning to sender and £30 refund.

Blackened 01-02-2011 13:47

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Just rang the 0800 number to see if I deffo needed a tech and the nice young lady said as the 30mb is a new rollout everyone upgrading will be needing a technician to come and make sure it's working OK. lol. I didn't bother arguing it, it'll still be here on Thurs - just brought by VM man instead of HDNL man. Was just trying to save someone the bother to be honest.

tweedie 01-02-2011 13:48

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Man (Post 35163525)
Seen on the existing customer offer page that they are now waiving activation and installation payments on the 50Mb package.......If I'm going to pay £30 activation anyway for the 30Mb package why not save on this payment and it will pay for 6 months of the price increase for the 50Mb package......

Question is now do I really want 50Mb?????

Thats abit of a **** take, upgraded to 50MB yesterday and they charged us £20 activation which is getting added to the bill.

Needless to say I will not be paying it

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 13:54

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tweedie (Post 35163572)
Thats abit of a **** take, upgraded to 50MB yesterday and they charged us £20 activation which is getting added to the bill.

Needless to say I will not be paying it

It says £20 activation for 50Mb on their site.

Quote:

Your Services
Broadband XXL


Broadband extras
Wireless "N" router and adapter


Fees
Standard engineer installation
£0.00

50Mb broadband activation
£20.00


Although saying that on the page before in the terms it says this....

Quote:

Free installation & activation upgrade offer: Offer ends 31st March 2011. Subject to network capacity. 12 month minimum contract term applies. If you cancel during the minimum contract period you will incur an early disconnection fee. Available to existing customers upgrading to broadband size XXL (subject to status and credit checks). Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers. Downgrading services in your bundle during the minimum period will attract a charge.
If i was you i would phone up and cancel until you get it free.

tweedie 01-02-2011 13:57

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163576)
It says £20 activation for 50Mb on their site.

Although saying that on the page before in the terms it says this....



If i was you i would phone up and cancel until you get it free.

Customers offers

Quote:

Upgrade to 50Mb broadband with free installation and activation
Boost your broadband speed to 50Mb, and we'll cover your installation and activation - worth £60.

You'd normally need to pay a £40 installation charge, and a £20 activation fee for Broadband XXL, but we'll cover both!

You'll get all this:

Up to 50Mb speed
Unlimited downloads1
Virgin Media Super Hub wireless router
and USB adaptor
Unlimited online backup & storage
100 free photo prints every month

jtaylor06 01-02-2011 14:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I'm presuming those who do go down the 50Mb route will probably get credited the £20 if you ring up?

---------- Post added at 13:06 ---------- Previous post was at 13:01 ----------

Ah, I've just had a look on the broadband section of the Virgin Media site, and XL is now 30Mb.
Good move for new customers :)

Apologies if this has been covered before, but this thread advances a page everytime I have a look at it (hard to keep up) :)

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 14:10

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35163585)
I'm presuming those who do go down the 50Mb route will probably get credited the £20 if you ring up?

---------- Post added at 13:06 ---------- Previous post was at 13:01 ----------

Ah, I've just had a look on the broadband section of the Virgin Media site, and XL is now 30Mb.
Good move for new customers :)

Apologies if this has been covered before, but this thread advances a page everytime I have a look at it (hard to keep up) :)

If you click 'First unread post' then you can't lose your place. :)

burns 01-02-2011 14:11

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
What number are people calling please?

jtaylor06 01-02-2011 14:13

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163594)
If you click 'First unread post' then you can't lose your place. :)

Oo, good idea. Thank you :)

Haha, you're welcome to the feedback!
Another star for you :p:

Dan_Man 01-02-2011 14:25

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Man (Post 35163525)
Seen on the existing customer offer page that they are now waiving activation and installation payments on the 50Mb package.......If I'm going to pay £30 activation anyway for the 30Mb package why not save on this payment and it will pay for 6 months of the price increase for the 50Mb package......

Question is now do I really want 50Mb?????

OK....Now realized the XL package is now £1.50 cheaper. So the £30 activation charge saved would pay for nearly 5 months of the 50Mb upgrade package.;)

mmmm

vanman 01-02-2011 14:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
mmm:dozey:
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/im...s/viewpost.gif
30Mb Offer: Upgrade from 20Mb to 30Mb broadband for no extra monthly fee. A one-off £30 fee applies. Manned installation may be required by a small number of customers however the £40 fee will be waived.

Seems to imply it is self install no?

(it helps to read the small print!)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackened (Post 35163569)
Just rang the 0800 number to see if I deffo needed a tech and the nice young lady said as the 30mb is a new rollout everyone upgrading will be needing a technician to come and make sure it's working OK. lol. I didn't bother arguing it, it'll still be here on Thurs - just brought by VM man instead of HDNL man. Was just trying to save someone the bother to be honest.


Diesel2011 01-02-2011 14:36

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Currently have XL 20mb and the Superhub. Cant wait to get home and see if it has changed to 30mb.

Damien 01-02-2011 14:39

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Has the price of 50mb gone down as well then?

Zee 01-02-2011 14:39

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan_Man (Post 35163605)
OK....Now realized the XL package is now £1.50 cheaper. So the £30 activation charge saved would pay for nearly 5 months of the 50Mb upgrade package.;)

mmmm

got a point. Might as well upgrade to 50Mb for 6 months which costs £30, then downgrade to 30Mb after the 6 months and pay no £30 fee.

Peter_ 01-02-2011 14:42

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel2011 (Post 35163613)
Currently have XL 20mb and the Superhub. Cant wait to get home and see if it has changed to 30mb.

Not unless you pay £30.;)
Quote:

Existing customers already on 'XL' broadband at 20Mb are being invited to upgrade to the new 'XL' at 30Mb from 1st February, with only a one-off upgrade fee of £30 to cover activation and exchange of their old modem and router for Virgin Media's state-of-the-art 'SuperHub'3. The 'SuperHub' combined DOCSIS 3.0 modem and router is capable of Gigabit wired connectivity as well as dual-band 'N' WiFi for the ultimate in wireless connectivity to make the most of Virgin Broadband throughout the home.
http://pressoffice.virginmedia.com/p...140&highlight=

qasdfdsaq 01-02-2011 14:44

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35163614)
Has the price of 50mb gone down as well then?

It went down at the beginning of November but not since then.

Diesel2011 01-02-2011 14:51

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
But I dont need to exchange my modem for Superhub.

I am still in my 28 day period from upgrading from 10mb to 20mb, so I can jsut cancel that, then ring up again and upgrade for free. Which is pointless. So either way, I am not paying £30.

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 14:54

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35163616)

A few customers on here today have said they didn't need to pay the £30 activation fee because they already had the Superhub.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35163360-post757.html

Harlow CM20 01-02-2011 14:59

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
[B] Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers. Downgrading services in your bundle during the minimum period will attract a charge. [/B]


Does this mean that because I'm on a retentions deal to keep me as a customer I'm unable to pay the £30 for this upgrade from XL20 to XL30 unless I'm willing to go on standard pricing and lose my discounts?

Chris 01-02-2011 14:59

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Yes.

Harlow CM20 01-02-2011 15:03

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Bah.

Chrysalis 01-02-2011 15:05

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I think there should be no such thing as retention deals, VM should market the price they feel is competitive, it should be the same for everyone except when service is faulty.

So it seems either VM are overcharging the average punter, and then give a proper price to those that threaten to leave, or they selling at a loss to keep customers.

BenRichards 01-02-2011 15:15

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
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Originally Posted by Harlow CM20 (Post 35163632)
[B] Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers. Downgrading services in your bundle during the minimum period will attract a charge. [/B]


Does this mean that because I'm on a retentions deal to keep me as a customer I'm unable to pay the £30 for this upgrade from XL20 to XL30 unless I'm willing to go on standard pricing and lose my discounts?

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35163633)
Yes.

Really?
I have a loyalty discount (same as retentions deal??) and I was told that there would be no change to my prices or contract

Chris 01-02-2011 15:18

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I'm not sure the two are necessarily the same thing - someone on staff may be able to clarify. Nevertheless, more than one person on a retentions deal has phoned up this morning and been told they will have to pay the regular price in order to get the uplift to 30Mb, and has reported this in this thread.

If you have phoned up, been told otherwise and have now taken the 30Mb uplift, I'd be checking your next bill very closely if I were you, just to make sure you really do still have your retentions deal.

MK1 01-02-2011 15:21

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Thinking of upgrading from 20-30 Mb but that costs £30. As an existing customer is it now free to upgrade to 50 Mb?

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 15:22

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I have a loyalty discount and my bill actually went down 50p as the discount increased by 50p.

shadow771 01-02-2011 15:23

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I'm on the Triple XL package for £60 something a month?
can I still get the free upgrade to 30mb/s

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 15:25

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
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Originally Posted by MK1 (Post 35163643)
Thinking of upgrading from 20-30 Mb but that costs £30. As an existing customer is it now free to upgrade to 50 Mb?

It's free installation and activation if you want to upgrade to 50Mb currently, obviously your monthly bill will increase though.

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Originally Posted by shadow771 (Post 35163645)
I'm on the Triple XL package for £60 something a month?
can I still get the free upgrade to 30mb/s

Yes you should be able too, unless you have some kind of retentions deal in which case i am not sure if your bill won't increase, either request the upgrade online or phone up and try.

Hugh 01-02-2011 15:30

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35163641)
I'm not sure the two are necessarily the same thing - someone on staff may be able to clarify. Nevertheless, more than one person on a retentions deal has phoned up this morning and been told they will have to pay the regular price in order to get the uplift to 30Mb, and has reported this in this thread.

If you have phoned up, been told otherwise and have now taken the 30Mb uplift, I'd be checking your next bill very closely if I were you, just to make sure you really do still have your retentions deal.

I will be checking my bill very carefully, as I asked for confirmation that my monthly charges would stay the same, and the only difference would be a one off cost of £30, and the nice gentleman from Customer Services confirmed this (I also checked that the £30 one of cost was inclusive of VAT, and that was confirmed.)

I currently have the following credits every month on my bill (taken from my current bill).
Additional Loyalty Discount

Triple Combo Loyalty Discount
Add Set Box(es) Discount

Horizon 01-02-2011 15:37

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel2011 (Post 35163613)
Currently have XL 20mb and the Superhub. Cant wait to get home and see if it has changed to 30mb.

It hasn't.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Harlow CM20 (Post 35163632)
[B] Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers. Downgrading services in your bundle during the minimum period will attract a charge. [/B]


Does this mean that because I'm on a retentions deal to keep me as a customer I'm unable to pay the £30 for this upgrade from XL20 to XL30 unless I'm willing to go on standard pricing and lose my discounts?

Read my earlier posts, or if you can't be bothered try again next Monday. If its a case of waiting a week for a possible, repeat, possible free upgrade, then its worth waiting.

Blackened 01-02-2011 15:37

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35163658)
It hasn't.

Correct, it won't. It's not *every* 20mb connection being upgraded, you need to have it activated. That's going to cost £30 unless you [can] sweet-talk a deal.

Telford240 01-02-2011 15:40

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Well I have got 20mb without a superhub, how do i get the 30mb ????????????

MK1 01-02-2011 15:41

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 35163647)
It's free installation and activation if you want to upgrade to 50Mb currently, obviously your monthly bill will increase though.

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Just phoned them and talked to someone called Chris and he said it would cost £40 to upgrade from 20 Mb to 50 Mb so i obviously said no.

Horizon 01-02-2011 15:44

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 35163635)
I think there should be no such thing as retention deals, VM should market the price they feel is competitive, it should be the same for everyone except when service is faulty.

So it seems either VM are overcharging the average punter, and then give a proper price to those that threaten to leave, or they selling at a loss to keep customers.

Up to five years ago, I always paid full price, but kept reading about these deals. I remember coming here and saying that its unethical, or something similar. Then it was pointed out to me that VM don't have to offer the deals and there is still quite a mark up on them. So the reality is the retentions deals are the standard price, and the "normal" prices are inflated.

Before someone cries foul, don't forget the line rental charge, which by the way is going up in April. You are paying for a bit of old copper wire, but as Berkett has admitted, the reality is its a connectivity charge which is where they make their money.

So don't feel guilty hitting the retentions number, I've never looked back since and saved hundreds as a result.

VM don't have to offer me a free upgrade to 30mb, but based on past experiences I am very confident they will in the next week or so. But if in the end I have to pay £30, so be it.

Hugh 01-02-2011 15:45

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
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Originally Posted by MK1 (Post 35163675)
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Just phoned them and talked to someone called Chris and he said it would cost £40 to upgrade from 20 Mb to 50 Mb so i obviously said no.

No disrespect, but what did you expect - a freebie?

pip08456 01-02-2011 15:47

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telford240 (Post 35163671)
Well I have got 20mb without a superhub, how do i get the 30mb ????????????

Just ring up, apply for it, accept the £30 activation fee.

Then sit back and wait for your superhub to be delivered, connect and -DONE!

MK1 01-02-2011 15:48

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35163680)
No disrespect, but what did you expect - a freebie?

No i expected what people have been saying and that was that upgrading to 50 was now free.

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 15:48

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MK1 (Post 35163675)
---------- Post added at 14:25 ---------- Previous post was at 14:24 ----------


Just phoned them and talked to someone called Chris and he said it would cost £40 to upgrade from 20 Mb to 50 Mb so i obviously said no.

Do it online http://shop.virginmedia.com/existing...broadband.html

Quote:

You'd normally need to pay a £40 installation charge, and a £20 activation fee for Broadband XXL, but we'll cover both!
Quote:

Free installation & activation upgrade offer: Offer ends 31st March 2011. Subject to network capacity. 12 month minimum contract term applies. If you cancel during the minimum contract period you will incur an early disconnection fee. Available to existing customers upgrading to broadband size XXL (subject to status and credit checks). Customers on non-standard pricing will need to move to standard pricing to receive these offers. Downgrading services in your bundle during the minimum period will attract a charge.

pip08456 01-02-2011 15:49

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
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Originally Posted by MK1 (Post 35163683)
No i expected what people have been saying and that was that upgrading to 50 was now free.

If you want 50Mb then upgrade!

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 15:50

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Telford240 (Post 35163671)
Well I have got 20mb without a superhub, how do i get the 30mb ????????????

http://shop.virginmedia.com/existing...broadband.html

Horizon 01-02-2011 15:50

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackened (Post 35163669)
Correct, it won't. It's not *every* 20mb connection being upgraded, you need to have it activated. That's going to cost £30 unless you [can] sweet-talk a deal.

I'm trying my best to sweet talk them, but my charm just ain't working today!:) And then there's the tivo to come, which I will get a deal on, more confident on that than this.

Harlow CM20 01-02-2011 15:52

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35163658)
Read my earlier posts, or if you can't be bothered try again next Monday. If its a case of waiting a week for a possible, repeat, possible free upgrade, then its worth waiting.

Huh?

Not sure why you're directing that at me, did I miss something?

Also, the "try again next Monday" comment seems a little confusing. Are you under the impression that I've called in yesterday and didn't get what I wanted or are you suggesting that I should simply call every Monday trying my luck?

I'm not after a free upgrade, I'm willing to pay the one off £30 but I couldn't afford to remain a customer if I lost my discounts.

Maybe I'll get lucky and everyone else in my area will move to XL30 instead and then I can recieve a decent XL20 service on the old Docsis 1.1-2.0 system.

MK1 01-02-2011 15:54

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163687)
If you want 50Mb then upgrade!

The reason i wanted 50 Mb is because it's free to upgrade not £40 but after SnoopZ helpful post i phoned back up and the £40 was knocked off so now i have excepted the 50 Mb upgrade.

pip08456 01-02-2011 15:56

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MK1 (Post 35163697)
The reason i wanted 50 Mb is because it's free to upgrade not £40 but after SnoopZ helpful post i phoned back up and the £40 was knocked off so now i have excepted the 50 Mb upgrade.

Result then.

whizzard 01-02-2011 15:58

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
I think its pretty clear that VM are using all their new products and services as means and ways of aligning price plans and removing many of the legacy retentions deals at the same time, hence the resistance to haggling. I would imagine TiVo will have even stricter conditions applied.

Horizon 01-02-2011 15:58

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harlow CM20 (Post 35163694)
Huh?

Not sure why you're directing that at me, did I miss something?

Also, the "try again next Monday" comment seems a little confusing. Are you under the impression that I've called in yesterday and didn't get what I wanted or are you suggesting that I should simply call every Monday trying my luck?

I'm not after a free upgrade, I'm willing to pay the one off £30 but I couldn't afford to remain a customer if I lost my discounts.

Maybe I'll get lucky and everyone else in my area will move to XL30 instead and then I can recieve a decent XL20 service on the old Docsis 1.1-2.0 system.

I've made multiple posts today as I am in the same situation as you and was just trying to be helpful to you without having to type the whole lot out again, which I'm not going to do.

pip08456 01-02-2011 15:59

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Harlow CM20 (Post 35163694)
Huh?

Not sure why you're directing that at me, did I miss something?

Also, the "try again next Monday" comment seems a little confusing. Are you under the impression that I've called in yesterday and didn't get what I wanted or are you suggesting that I should simply call every Monday trying my luck?

I'm not after a free upgrade, I'm willing to pay the one off £30 but I couldn't afford to remain a customer if I lost my discounts.

Maybe I'll get lucky and everyone else in my area will move to XL30 instead and then I can recieve a decent XL20 service on the old Docsis 1.1-2.0 system.

Normal discounts for bundle deals should still apply. Retention deals will most likely be cancelled and back to bundle deals.

Only way to find out is to ring in.

Horizon 01-02-2011 16:00

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
...which is what I already did and posted the results on here....

Stephen 01-02-2011 16:01

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel2011 (Post 35163613)
Currently have XL 20mb and the Superhub. Cant wait to get home and see if it has changed to 30mb.

It won't, not yet anyway. It maybe a month or two before any kind of bulk uplift is done for 20Mb customers with superhubs.

pip08456 01-02-2011 16:06

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35163705)
It won't, not yet anyway. It maybe a month or two before any kind of bulk uplift is done for 20Mb customers with superhubs.

If it ever happens.

Nowhere has it been said that existing customers will get it free.

It has been said that those that can't afford the £30 activation fee can stay on their existing 20Mb service.

Diesel2011 01-02-2011 16:12

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
So if you are on 10mb, the upgrade to 30mb is free? Thats what the terms say. Anyone on L upgrading to XL gets a free superhub.

So as I am in the 28 days "trial" period, its time to ring up, downgrade and then upgrade again.

Stephen 01-02-2011 16:13

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35163706)
If it ever happens.

Nowhere has it been said that existing customers will get it free.

It has been said that those that can't afford the £30 activation fee can stay on their existing 20Mb service.

Any customers recently installed to 20Mb with superhubs will not have to pay the £30. Eventually all of them will be moved to 30Mb automatically, again this will be 20Mb customers who already have superhubs

SnoopZ 01-02-2011 16:16

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diesel2011 (Post 35163711)
So if you are on 10mb, the upgrade to 30mb is free? Thats what the terms say. Anyone on L upgrading to XL gets a free superhub.

So as I am in the 28 days "trial" period, its time to ring up, downgrade and then upgrade again.

No you still pay the £30 activation fee.

Quote:

If you're on 10Mb broadband you can upgrade for a one-off payment of £30, there'll also be a price increase to your monthly broadband payment.

pip08456 01-02-2011 16:16

Re: 20 Mb/s to 30Mb/s free upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35163715)
Any customers recently installed to 20Mb with superhubs will not have to pay the £30. Eventually all of them will be moved to 30Mb automatically, again this will be 20Mb customers who already have superhubs

Would you like to give the source for this misinformation you are propagating??????????


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