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How dare they have a soft launch of a new interactive sport service :D

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Now thats better :)

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Football First - Game of the day.
(as it has for the last 6 years!)

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Indeed but I wonder why they have done so.

I am not imagining it but there really are 14 streams alive and kicking right now.

What are they showing?

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Not Football First!

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So is multiscreen match choice available ?

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Tried red button,no response.

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Try again as it might be a fault.

6 games are available on Sky.

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no red button on match choice

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Wonder if it's a Bristol area fault ?

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There's loads of new hardware and software required to deliver SSRB, and although it has been well tested in labs, you can never be sure it will all work in real life. A soft launch minimises the impact if something does go wrong.

Imagine the fuss there would have been here if a big launch had been announced then it hadn't worked.

Probably nothing at the moment. They are there ready for when Sky want to use them.

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No red button for match choice, so BBC match of the day again.

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That's the way I see it, and why its being described as a "soft launch". Sky have never written a proper red button app for VM's platform so they're using it sporadically initially to see what works and what doesn't. Once they have any maor kinks ironed out it'll probably be used more frequently. I would imagine a similar thing will happen when they start to write the TiVo version of the app. Same with the BBC red button functionality - I think it will build up in small chunks, probably with alternate video streams being a priority as they seem to be what people are complaining about the most.

EDIT: And I see spiderplant has said pretty much the same a couple of posts up.

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No RB in glasgow for match choice

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match of the day for me to no match choice shame

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Yes we cannot blame Sky for eveything as sometimes we have to hold Virgin to account and ask them questions which half the time they don,t seem to answer or are very vague in their press releases and communication.

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so you dont get match choice on that one?

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They show the main game on a linear channel at around 8.25, then at 10.15 match choice is available.

It must be down to rights that they start at 1015 as when I had BT they didn't make match choice available until around the same time (it was their own version though and nothing to do with Sky Sports, I don't think they have the rights to this anymore and it didn't include any games that had been shown live on Sky, games shown live on ESPN were available but not for a day or so, in fact I think these games are still available on BT but obviously they are a bit thin on the ground).

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I don't think if counts anymore

http://business.scotsman.com/busines...ase.6760353.jp

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All this red button on demand is rubbish, i wont be happy till i can watch Todays 2 pm kick off between Arsenal and ManU at 10pm the previous night, i mean c'mon with all the technology available. :cleader: :cleader: :cleader:

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lol :d

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Oh I retract my well done to Virgin post for the launch of red button. Judging by posts on here it hasn't launched for match choice or during live premiership games for stats etc. Therefore in my mind it ain't launched at all

Re: sky sports red button
 

Watch Dr Who.

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Not really my thing

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See your point.

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I'm waiting for the time i tune into watch the champions league final and the red button pops up with the caption - cricket!!!
Yeah, crickets what i really wanted to watch... :rolleyes:

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I must say I did not realise it was only going to be available infrequently.:(

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Well until August at least one suspects.

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I fear we may have to wait until the TiVo version is available until we get the full Sky Sports Red button.

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And we seem to have 2 dates for that at present which are July if you believe one person or late 2011 or early 2012 if we believe somone else.

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I posted the late 2011/early 2012 , it was posted on the TiVo forum, interestingly this post has now been removed.http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...512 :confused:

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Your guess is good as mine on when its coming to tivo, lets hope when they add it they add the BBC interactivety as well.

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I hope it is soon for you guys.:D

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Yes l am missing the BBC red button interactivety.

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Good point though i remember a comparison site cannot post the link though as am at work at the mo on it sky compared what thay offered as regards sport and what virgin offer,and when it came to Red Button on virgin sky just said "some red button on vm"2011 make of that what you will.

But August will be a better indicator in my view once TiVo launches Red Button services.

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Because we are nearly at the end of the football season my belief this is a soft launch until it comes onto tivo and the football season restarts in August.

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I agree denphone.

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I think you are right on that :)

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We actually agree on something now thats a first.

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:D

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No its definately a soft launch DF though the info from top bosses at vm is woeful but that is not your fault. just pleased it has made an appearnace now.

By the way not all people subscribe to sky sports for the football however i agree the majority do though. Would have been nice to have viewed Red Button matches in the recent cricket world cup.:)

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When will tivo red button be launched?

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Around july is the planned date so far.

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Football will NOT be on the Sky Sports Red Button until next season.

Info from Virgin Media.com

http://www.virginmediapeople.com/pri...fault.aspx#top

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Will launch sometime in July.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Will red button be availble for tennis on vm tomorrow?

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its was still nice to see it appear on the 28th though.

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Very unlikey tennis will be on there tomorrow but others may know better.

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It should be as that is what we've been told.

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no red button today on any games. you would had thought it be on the man u game

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it will be on tomorrow lads

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I am so interested to see how it will work

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what show will it be on?

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The ATP Masters 1000 event is on SSP4 from 1pm until 8pm tomorrow.

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i don't like that but i just want to see the red button work :):)

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In the press release it says this:

"Sky Sports Red Button kicks off with its first sporting event on Thursday 28th April with International Cricket: West Indies v Pakistan. There is a schedule of events coming up including Masters Tennis and the Rugby Super League in May."

There are 2 masters tennis events in may the madrid and rome masters but the madrid master is the only event to have red button facilities so it must be the tennis tomorrow.

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Another half arsed virgin release. :rolleyes:

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I'm pretty sure you'll probably find that it's Sky who are coding the red button software. It's a "soft launch". In other words, they'll try out the software on the live system a bit at a time to see what works and what doesn't and then refine the software for the next event they test it on. Liberate is a completely different system to OpenTV (or whatever Sky are using these days) so everything has to be written from scratch to work within the capabilities of VM's system. From a software development and testing point of view they're doing things correctly; you develop and test the software in small, easily manageable stages rather than trying to do everything at once.

It was a similar situation back in the NTL/Telewest days with the BBC red button when they had to try to recreate similar functionality to the red button app on Sky on 3 different cable systems (Telewest, original NTL, ex-C&W). Those of us in the original NTL areas had to wait absolutely ages for various upgrades to hardware at NTL's end and software on the old Pace boxes before we got the same functionality as the Telewest and ex-C&W customers got.

I'm sure Sky will have received feedback from VM about how well the first trial worked both at VM's end and on the various STBs so that they can refine and optimise it for the next event, where the process will repeat until it's at a satisfactory level to be used full-time. Then they'll start working on getting it up and running on the TiVo boxes, although I'd hope that it'll be easier for them to code for Flash.

Re: sky sports red button
 

l have to agree with you on this one.

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Why they couldn't have provided psuedo red button in the mean time is beyond me. i.e. football is on, press red button - overlay appears with basic list of what streams sky are broadcasting... fan zone... player cam.. etc, choose player cam, box retunes to a channel up the epg to show player cam, then returns back to sky sports + overlay on next press of red button. How hard would it have been to implement that system while they recoded it properley???

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That wouldn't have been allowed by Sky, sorry. It is a phased rollout and that can't be changed.

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We just got to wait for the full rollout its as simple as that.

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It would be almost as hard as doing it properly. The STB doesn't know that "the football is on" or what streams are available at any particular time - someone needs to tell it. Also bear in mind VM has around 20 different STB models that need testing. That's a lot of testing on something you're going to throw away.

Doing what you suggest would be a major diversion from doing the job properly. Besides, it's nearly all done now anyway.

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I think some of you might be expecting a bit too much from the service, things like player cam and camera angles are not provided anymore (or I should say I haven't seen such features in the near 2 months I have had Sky).

Basically during a live EPL match you get highlights (pretty poor PQ), stats and a choice of audio (i.e. no commentary).

Fanzone isn't available on all EPL games either, Scottish Football and Football League coverage has no red button at all (unless they throw extra games on behind the red button at the end of the season, there appear to be no 'interactive' features as such).

Overall it's very good and a great addition to VM but it's best feature is match choice and the UCL multiscreen, I think this is the main selling point for football fans as they provide actual content. A lot of the other features are OK but nothing more.

In my opinion.

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http://www.sky.com/shop/sports/home/...y-virginmedia/

'Sky Sports with Virgin'....
'Some interactive sky sports coverage from 2011'

The table on the linked page suggests Virgin might not be getting all the red button services anyway, (although leaves out specifically mentioning SSN isnt available in HD)

Any staff members wish to comment?

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Or it could just be referring to the staged rollout in a way that makes their own service look better. It's a page to try to get you to go with them instead of Virgin, remember.

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The link doesnt work

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Works just fine here.

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works fine for me

thanks

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I wouldn't rely on Sky's web site for info about what's coming soon to VM.

That page says there's 26 HD channels on VM and more 'may' launch soon. There's no 'may' about it, they have launched, I believe its actually 31 HD channels on Cable now.

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That webpage is many months old and has never been updated.

It has well done the rounds on here and DS.

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Can any Sky viewer let me know if Red Button tennis is available on the tennis Sky Sports 4

I believed it should be available on VM and I have no red button as yet....

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Working here in the office at VM

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Is match choice for the tennis available on SSP4?

Edit - answered above!

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Oh...not working here in LU post code.... i will reboot....

It was OK for the croicket the other day....

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There should be 4 video screens available.

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I've just rebooted and it works :) but there was no red button icon???

And now there is LOL.... well done VM...:thumbsup: :) Love it....

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I've got a "Tennis" Icon in the bottom right of the screen then 4 video windows on a V+HD :)

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Its a quick load up time too ....

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Me too now :p

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Good it works, to be honest I often didn't get the red button icon on the BBC but it usually worked.

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Screenshots? :)

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:heart: :heart: :heart: VM

(we need a heart icon LOL )

Re: sky sports red button
 

good stuff :)

It's actually a really good app isn't it? :)

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:romance: :romance: :romance: :romance:

Re: sky sports red button
 

That'll do it ;)

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Must admit when i used it for the cricket last week i thought it was a really good app too.:)

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It is very good, especially for things like this that provide extra matches which is it's best point for me, stats and alternative audio are nice but the extra games are what I suspect customers really want. I will be interested to find out how V+ handles more than 4 video screens though.

BBC Multiscreen has never been able to display the full six miini screens, 2 of them have always been 'static' if that makes sense although you can still view the video streams.

It wouldn't be a major problem anyway, maybe that's what they are working on to provide the football match choice service as obviously there are more than 4 mini screens, usually there are at least 7.

Re: sky sports red button
 

Indeed, very impressed :)

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red button is working on sky sporst 4 now on the madrid masters tennis

noticed its been mentioned - didnt read through the last couple of pages - sorry!

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http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1245/ten1.png

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2155/ten2.png

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It is visually almost identical to Sky's version except their red button merely says 'match choice' and there is a separate menu by pressing 'i' for stats and the draw (the options that VM have as 5 and 6 on their version).

Very good, i'm impressed.

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http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/6341/ten3i.png
http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/603/ten4.png

Re: sky sports red button
 

It all looks pretty comprehensive to me.

It provides exactly the same services as Sky does, albeit in a slightly differening way.

Bodes well for the future when it fully launches.

Re: sky sports red button
 

I have Sky sports Red Button, however, both times I have used it I have had to reboot my Cisco VHD box as it froze all controls. After the reboot it works as it should.

Re: sky sports red button
 

I seem to recall I had a similar problem when BBC News Multiscreen launched in ex CWC areas after NGTV but it soon panned out and was mostly OK.

Re: sky sports red button
 

I am sure its just a teething problem, it looks really good.

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I mostly had that problem when I had a V Box. I found if that box wasnt in standby when the EPG updated I had no choice but to reboot as the box simply locked up. Unlike the V+ i'm sure that box updated at 0600 so maybe the V HD box does too.

If I was awake and was using it the box always stuck for things like red button and needed rebooting just after 0600 for some reason, if it was in standby it was OK.

Re: sky sports red button
 

When it's fully launched I would like to see it for all sports as Iwatch more than just footy

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Sadly even us Sky punters don't even get it for all sports! Only EPL and UCL have it with the occasional La Liga match, Scottish and Football League matches are not covered let alone all other sports.

I am sure when it fully launches on VM you will get at least a comparable service to what Sky provided on their own platform when the deal was signed.

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I have been with Telewest/Vm for about 15 years and I can honestly say the Cisco V HD box is the best I have ever had.

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Cool, I found the V box great too with the exception of the reboot problem at 0600.