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The only thing missing really is "Series Catch-up" from the VOD menu. You can only access that via BBC iPlayer/red button.

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You can search for particular programmes in the "search" option of VOD too :)

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And also the A-Z section.

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I see that there is more news about the tivo box on the VM website this morning. They must be gearing up for launch.

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Do you have a link please?

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Yes - sorry - http://www.virginmedia.com/tvradio/t...do-for-you.php

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That has been on there for ages now.
You got me all excited for a minute there :(

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I think it is time VM were giving us some new info. It has been about six weeks now. Very frustrating for those of us who are interested.

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Doh ! And there's me getting my knickers all in a twist ! Sorry about that - I'll go back to sleep !

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Can someone answer this

I hear with TiVo you can go back 7 days is this any programme or just what's on catchup ?

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they are advertising it on their homepage utterly stupid because you cannot order it yet. its been on their homepage for ages.

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I read it's just what's on catchup.

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I believe at the moment you can only register an interest they are advertising it on the website i would think in order to build that interest not with people on forums who know about it already,but the public in general.

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Im getting my training next week, quite excited with all this moving on

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What do you do jb66 install ? Must admit can't wait to get my hands on one seems ages off though.

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I've got VIP50. If I do take TIVO, and pay an extra £3.00 per month, does that mean I can keep the V+ box I currently have, and have the TIVO box installed in place of the standard box? That way I'll have a V+ box and a TIVO box. I actually had the V+ box installed a few years ago, prior to having a VIP package. I paid £150.00 for the install. If I do take TIVO, and pay a further £199.00 for the TIVO box, I don't feel I should have to return the V+box.

This should be okay as the V+box will continue to be paid for as part of my VIP50 package, and I'll be paying extra per month for the privilege of TIVO too.

Is my understanding of this correct or will Virgin try to take the V+box away if I take TIVO?

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They will replace whichever box you want replacing.

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I wouldn't have thought there would be any problem keeping the V+ chad. There would be an additional monthly charge for having the extra box. Around £5.50 I think.

Edit: Sorry. Didn't realise you were already on a package with extra box.

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It was easy to miss.:)

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Mmmm, I've been pretty sceptical about TIVO however if I can keep the V+box and the price for TIVO comes down a bit I might be sold. Cheers for the info guys.

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When you think a second v+ would cost £99 + install fee it makes it slightly more attractive,

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Point number 8 states that you can record 2 programmes, whilst watching a third?
Does that mean the twin tuner boxes will be available at launch ?

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I find that a bit surprising unless you are pre-announcing that VIP will have two PVRs, unlike today.

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Third Tuner Code download is happening around March, I believe.

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A friend says TIVO training is happening so something must be weeks off.

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Just thought that the lyrics to Queen's "I want it all" is rather apt for us that want/need Tivo!

Adventure seeker on an empty street,
Just an alley creeper, light on his feet
A young fighter screaming, with no time for doubt
With the pain and anger can't see a way out,
It ain't much I'm asking, I heard him say,
Gotta find me a future move out of my way,
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now,
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now,

Listen all you people, come gather round
I gotta get me a game plan, gotta shake you to the ground
Just give me what I know is mine,
People do you hear me, just give me the sign,
It ain't much I'm asking, if you want the truth
Here's to the future for the dreams of youth,
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now,
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now,

I'm a man with a one track mind,
So much to do in one life time (people do you hear me)
Not a man for compromise and where's and why's and living lies
So I'm living it all, yes I'm living it all,
And I'm giving it all, and I'm giving it all,
It ain't much I'm asking, if you want the truth,
Here's to the future, hear the cry of youth,
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now,
I want it all, I want it all, I want it all, and I want it now

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At the pace VM are moving that will be on the boxes before it is available to order. :D

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That would seem to coincide with a rumour I heard...
...but this contradicts it.

I can't imagine VM would launch the tivo without the 3rd tuner, but I've heard a rumour that Feb 14th (Valentine's Day) is the launch day for tivo.

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Well they have launched it to 500 staff with only 2 tuners and if the rollout to existing customers happens in Feb then they will also only have 2 tuners until the code drops.

There is no reason to delay the rollout till the 3rd tuner is enabled.

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Feels like launch in February with 2 tuners and then software update to activate 3 tuners in March, I’ll live with that.

I have a SA V+ right now and I seem to remember there was a problem with the 3rd tuner a few years ago so we’ve been in this situation before in that case a fault!

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You'll only have to wait 4 weeks max to get 3rd tuner switched on, if you get installed before March :)

Without giving too much away... it is something you can live with for a little bit :D

You do realise the huge benefits of the third tuner when it's not there. :)

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Agreed, that is good news if that is what is actually going to happen.

With a family of 4 with different tastes, the lack of a 3rd tuner is almost a show stopper for me buying (I registered on the first day we were able to do so), you are certainly right about realising the benefits of a 3rd tuner when it is not there!

Not every channel has a +1 option or access to catch up (especially Sky 1 which may change in future) so it is quite often I schedule 2 recordings while watching a third.

Ready to order now!

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Based on past experience of the whole introduction of digital TV over all platforms there is every reason to concerned. These new technologies initially seem simple to distribute but frequently prove a lot more problematic in practice. If the third tuner was a simple software upgrade it would have been implemented by now. There is obviously a problem somewhere with the introduction of the Tivo box.

The whole razzmatazz of the original announcement and then...............silence.:confused:

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Not sure about the 3rd tuner problem on V+.. I was a beta tester for the telewest TVdrive, along time before V+ and the 3rd tuner worked from day 1, 3 months before launch.

I'm in the won't order till it's working camp. It's too easy to say 3rd tuner is simple upgrade, as above if it's that simple it should be on there now. Truth is adding a 3rd tuner to the tivo software could throw up all kinds of issues within the software that no one has foreseen. After all tivo have known the box would have 3 tuners ever since the first contracts were signed how long (2years??) ago.

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I think it was a reliability problem rather than not available at all, but this is only from memory.

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I have had the SA V+ (TVDrive) since March 2006 and the three tuner capability has ALWAYS been there.

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If i remember rightly very early (during beta) there was a problem if you were recording from 2 sources and started to watch a 3rd recorded program the box would freeze (white border bug). But that was fixed well before launch.

Edit.. Oddly enough yesterday i had my first bug in i don't know how long.. the box freaked out and started recording from ESPN HD on 2 tuners the same NBA game, that wasn't even on.. Checking the planned programs all the NBA stuff i had set was duplicated a number of times.. very odd.. but i assume it's an epg issue.. oh well lol :)

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It's got the hump because you are considering replacing it with the Tivo!:D

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Cant believe customers are panicking over the 3rd tuner not being quite ready for distibution, so are these people constantly recording two programs at the same time all the time, I dont think so, I'm surprised you have any spare space on the hard drive if this is the case and the time to watch the recordings.

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TiVo in the US and indeed around the world has never had three tuners, so TiVo have had to write software bespoke for VM.

The 3rd tuner will be enabled in March. Stop worrying :)

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1 year ago ;)

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Be careful how you make promises DF. You have no guarantee that you will be able to deliver.:mad:

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Chill :)

I don't make promises about service issues, but I do know how things are going.

There is no indication that the planned 3rd tuner will not be ready by March

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I'll be first in line to eat a big slice of humble pie!:bigcry:

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Actuall yes, majority of the things that get recorded are usually on at the same time

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I'd imagine the third tuner isn't going to be an issue by the time the box is in general circulation anyway.

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And also when they are not on VOD or catch-up, so you have to record at the scheduled time or just hope they are repeated at a future date. This has happened many times for me and I even had a couple of times where I could have done with a 4th tuner such is the issue with the 9-10pm slot and VM not having access to a +1 channel or any catch-up on channels like Sky1 right now.

I want to control the TV I watch and when I decide to watch it, so I typically set series recordings and watch when I want to. 2 tuners for recording means I virtually never have a clash, but only having 1 will be different.

However if this is fixed in March after Tivo can be purchased in February, then a 4 or 5 week period will hardly be an issue for me.

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I may have misunderstood you here but, as I understand it, you will still have two recordable tuners in the TIVO at initial release; you just won't have a third tuner to watch a separate live channel at the same time.

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That's correct.. you can still record 2 programmes at the same time. you just can't watch another live channel.

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TiVo Premiere App for iPad review :angel:

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Sorry, wasn’t being clear enough, was meant to be referring to tuners available for recording while watching a third i.e. V+ now.

It is often the case that the children have not gone to bed before 9pm when programmes are starting which we would prefer them not to see, so 2 recordings may start while we’re watching something else on TV (my son seems to be addicted to Challenge TV!). Hope that explains the scenario I am thinking off when 2 tuners (in addition to the 3rd for TV) are available for recording is so useful.

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Which has been pretty much confirmed as coming on VM at some point too/

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Calm down.

Also DF won't be the one delivering it lol.

I am also sure that the 3rd tuner will arrive in time.

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Yes, if I remember part of the deal is feature parity with TiVo's products.

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Hopefully, this time, they'll write the soft-/firm-/middle-ware to dynamically detect the number of tuners available, as they should have done the first time (I would have).

When we all have TiVo boxes with multi-terabyte disks and multiple HDMI connectors it should be possible to watch four programmes on two screens (picture-in-picture) whilst recording another four for later viewing! :omg:

Right now this evening, even with +1 channels, I have such an overlap of programmes I want to watch, most of them new episodes, that I will have to wait until they are, hopefully, repeated later in the week. No PVR here at all yet but, if I had, with only one tuner recording I still don't think I would be able to catch them all.

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Was stated as coming to VM during recent Investor Day which further substantiates that.

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You would have spent months developing otherwise redundant software, on the off-chance that a cable company you'd never heard of from the other side of the world with a penchant for triple-tuner PVRs would decide to adopt your software several years down the line?

Don't let your boss find out ;)

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As someone else mentioned when pretty much all my recordings happen in the 9pm-10pm slot on multiple channels, mostly sky1, bbc1, 5, syfy, fx, you quite often get lots of clashes in that time slot.

Also don't forget the power of the extra tuner with respect to program overlap, that extra 5 mins at the end often needs the extra tuner, and you will lose the end off alot of programs without it.

eg you watch a program at 9pm-10pm, record a program at the same time, then record a program on a different channel at 10pm-11pm.

With 3 tuners this is no problem at all as 1 tuner records the 9-10, while the other records the 10-11 channel both with overlaps, all while you watch you're program. With just 2 tuners, you may miss the end off the 9-10pm program as the tuner switches to record the 10-11pm channel. Or as with sky you get the epg flash up giving you warnings etc which nobody wants to see on VM.

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I could not have put it better myself! Well said "rattus".

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Having 3 tuners is one of the great uniques of VM so they will want to restore their advantage asap on Tivo

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Indeed. It is a VM must and will be added. ;)

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I'll wait for all 3 tunes to be active until I switch. I work all funny hours so have my shows set to series link. My misses has the soaps set to record of an evening as she works during this time. 3 tunes help us a lot.

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The way its going with keep losing channels and new ones not on the horizen we wont need 3 tuners anyway:D

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Please explain! I do not understand what you mean. I am perfectly happy with the channel line up.:confused:

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a) will we be able to re-arrange the favourite channels on this one ? (so we can have all the HD variants at the start).

b) what are the box dimensions ?

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No you can't rearrange the channels.

Not sure of the dimensions.

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Not if you're doing it right. You have a general routine for tuning and processing the signals regardless of whether it is for viewing or recording. Then you have a module to handle viewing and a module for recording. Each of these should be re-usable code so that you could:-

• view multiple channels on each of the outputs (SCART, HDMI, RF, component etc. as applicable)
• view one channel as a picture-in-picture of another channel or the guide (which is just another video source anyway)
• record multiple channels

Some of the recent software changes for the search functionality, for example, don't seem to follow the principle of "reduce, reuse, recycle". The remote control handling routines seem to have been re-written and are not consistent with the behaviour of the remote elsewhere. It's not like there's oodles of spare memory to waste in some of the older boxes, so it's a bad thing in more than one way.

I am the boss!!! I've been in business for myself since 1988.

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Why SpongeBob SmartyPants, you cynic! To suggest that the VM content selection is so poor that we will soon only need to view or record one channel at a time is nigh sacrilege. You go and wash your mucky mouth out with your own sponge!!! :nono:

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;)

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:mad:

I mean surely the people who are going to sign up to this initially will be the people who have large HD screens and are going to want the HD channels at the start of the EPG.

If that's not possible for some strange contractual reasons can we somehow have a filter on the EPG so we can filter out SD ?

Now we have BBC1 HD, BBC HD, ITV HD, C4HD and Five HD it really is a bit of a wind up expecting us to dig through the epg for them. :dozey:

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It will have Favourites as do all Vboxes so you put them in to their and when you press the button there they are.

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Well, not that I know anything but I think you will be able to set your favourites the same as you can at the moment, but there is a feature of the mini guide where you can set it to only display your favourites or a set of channels, ie sport or children's. But if you flick up or down using the channel change buttons it will go to the next channel regardless.

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Just use Favourites, surely? :dozey:

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3 out of 3 for using favourites then the easy and obvious solution which even my wife managed to work out on our V+ box.;):D

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Hey thanks DF and MASQUE that is what i was doing wrong:D:D:D

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Really fancy getting a tivo (after getting an old one off ebay) just not sure if I will be able to have one since they can't even get the V+ box to work correctly where I live grr

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what happens with V+?

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Had 4 maybe 5 attempts to install/run them but they freeze/pixilate and then crash or don't record or reboot. Had 2 (maybe 3) repulls had some network bloke out to change stuff and in the end they told me to stick with the vhd box.

Really like the idea of a tivo tho

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I just found out the VHD is not fully compatible with tivo afterall. A new box will be made so it can be connected via ethernet. This means you can watch whats on the tivo box on a regular box elsewere.

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TiVo won't work for you then. :(

Did the engineer say why it can't be rectified for you? Are you far away from the service cab?

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I was connected to something incorrectly originally which was a fair distance away and then they came and connected me to the thing outside my door and still no luck. They just gave up in the end without any reason :dozey:

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Those are all the easy bits, no matter however many tuners and decoders you've got. The difficult thing about multi-tuner PVRs is dealing with recording clashes. Three tuners are much harder than two.

That's because Search is loaded off a server. It can't access the functions built into the EPG. The upside is all the memory can be freed once you've finished with Search.

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Just out of curiousity do american tivo's have a 3rd tuner installed but not enabled or just two tuners, if 3 tuners do you think they will get an upgrade when we do, if only two tuners I'm surprised they dont upgrade to 3 as so called market leaders in the world of tv.

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I do believe that it only has 2 tuners in the USA, but now that they have written a program for a box with 3 tuners they may add that to when they fetch a new box out:erm:

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Yes, this is true. The US box only has 2 tuners.

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Thanks for that DF that is what i thought but it must have slipped my mind as my partner is ill and in hospital at the moment so this and another forum is stopping me going crazy:erm:

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Sorry to hear that mate, hope everything is ok :hugs:

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...and-speed.html

Superior it may be, but the high speeds are just an enabler. What is "game-changing", says Berkett, is Virgin Media's new internet-enabled cable TV box, which will be available to all of its cable TV customers in a few months. TiVo, currently available to Virgin's premium customers, features a range of iPad-style apps, from gaming to news to social networks.

Am I missing something which premium customers have got it I thought it was just 500 staff.

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Obviously, he thinks very highly of his staff.....:D

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Well 500 of them.............................................. .............;)

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Premium (XL and above TV customers) will be the first to get it after the staff roll-out.

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But he states its available now to premium customers.

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Well all staff have XL tv so we are premium customers too ;)

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I think some of you staff guys are beginning to extract the Michael.:mad:

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Staff are staff , its not available to all premium customers.

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He doesn't say "all".......;)

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As Hugh states I did not say all premium customers just that the 500 staff have XL and so by the above post are classed as premium customers. I am sure the rollout to all existing customers will happen soon enough.

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currently available to Virgin's premium customers

I'm a premium customer but it's not available to me.

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There are more trial phases