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Peter_ 01-07-2010 16:19

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35049620)
I'm guessing the staff is not informed about testing then? :)

We would not be informed on broadband support about TV testing the same as they are unaware of broadband testing, but I do know about 5 HD.

kgollop 01-07-2010 16:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35049636)
On the same thread as that Five HD screenshot, it is mentioned that PAFC TV is being tested too.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...1283131&page=2

That was a joke aimed at me :D I don't think we're likely to be seeing Plymouth Argyle FC TV anytime soon - sadly!

jtaylor06 01-07-2010 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35049651)
That was a joke aimed at me :D I don't think we're likely to be seeing Plymouth Argyle FC TV anytime soon - sadly!

Oh - how gullible do I look now :p:

borrissey 01-07-2010 16:41

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2010) Vol. II
 
Yeah Five HD is on Virgin Media cable, saw it around my mates house he's got chipped cable box.

Good news!!! Another HD channel. :)

Peter_ 01-07-2010 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35049662)
Yeah Five HD is on Virgin Media cable, saw it around my mates house he's got chipped cable box.

Good news!!! Another HD channel. :)

The good news is that soon his box will not work.;):D

borrissey 01-07-2010 17:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Masque (Post 35049667)
The good news is that soon his box will not work.;):D

True lol!!

He's gutted lol, sky are coming around his house next Friday to install.

ken1234 01-07-2010 18:15

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someone just post on digital spy saying that film 4 hd is testing right now

Transponder ID: 0028
Frequency: 363000000
Symbol Rate: 6952000
FEC Inner:3
Modulation:3
Channel Service ID: 0fa1
Name: Film4 HD

John Logie Baird 01-07-2010 21:01

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Anyone know if upcoming channels Five HD and FILM 4 HD will have
embedded digital on-screen graphics when showing HD broadcasts ?

Not keen on these D.O.G.S.

jtaylor06 01-07-2010 21:11

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From the image on DS, Five HD appears to have a DOG

nialli 01-07-2010 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by borrissey (Post 35049680)
True lol!!

He's gutted lol, sky are coming around his house next Friday to install.

Why is it that these guys who've stolen from Virgin all these years are turning to Sky when the chipped boxes fail? Guilt? Or are the criminally inclined naturally lured to the dark side?

John Logie Baird 01-07-2010 21:24

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just found out some more Five HD D.O.G. news

"there was an hd dog during Home and Away this evening, so they are coping what Ch4 do"

http://www.satpimps.com/showthread.php?t=135477

Dave42 01-07-2010 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35049856)
Why is it that these guys who've stolen from Virgin all these years are turning to Sky when the chipped boxes fail? Guilt? Or are the criminally inclined naturally lured to the dark side?

aye and serves them right when they end up paying more going to sky and now with sky sports going up on sky too hahahahaha

jtaylor06 01-07-2010 21:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35049860)
aye and serves them right when they end up paying more going to sky and with sky sports going up on sky lol

Lmao and Sky putting prices up by £3 too over this BT and Sky Sports issue

Media Boy UK 01-07-2010 21:39

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Virgin Media close NME Radio?

I know that NME Radio is to close soon on Digital TV and DAB Radio so I have been keeping an eye on Channel 975. And since about 1pm today I have seen that NME Radio is not broadcasting on Virgin.

All other networks is still broadcasting NME Radio.

jtaylor06 01-07-2010 21:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35049867)
Virgin Media close NME Radio?

I know that NME Radio is to close soon on Digital TV and DAB Radio so I have been keeping an eye on Channel 975. And since about 1pm today I have seen that NME Radio is not broadcasting on Virgin.

All other networks is still broadcasting NME Radio.

It's said it for days, but there has been audio which was confusing.
But now it's dead sound.

Andrewcrawford23 01-07-2010 22:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35049621)
Virgin Media signs new deal with Viacom?

With MTV Hits, MTV Base and Nicktoons moving to the L Package today I think we may soon see some/all of the following channels on Virgin TV:

BET
BET + 1
Comedy Central Extra + 1
NickToons Replay

maybe ther future hd channels too ;) like Nickeldeon HD and COmedy CEntral HD ;)

winkle 01-07-2010 22:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 35049885)
maybe ther future hd channels too ;) like Nickeldeon HD and COmedy CEntral HD ;)

Eric Cartman in HD :p:

Ben B 01-07-2010 22:36

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<sarcasm>WOW American teen programs in HD? </sarcasm>

BikeNutt 01-07-2010 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by John Logie Baird (Post 35049859)
just found out some more Five HD D.O.G. news

"there was an hd dog during Home and Away this evening, so they are coping what Ch4 do"

http://www.satpimps.com/showthread.php?t=135477

For plasma owners the FIVE DOG is one of the worst for retention. That and Eurosport.

The annoying thing is that, up until the rebrand, the FIVE DOG was actually quite unintrusive. Muppets!

John Logie Baird 02-07-2010 08:57

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Channels testing off the EPG before launch


Channel name Notes Owner/parent company
Film4 HD Channel Four Television Corporation
Five HD [8] Channel 5 Broadcasting (RTL Group)
Test 34 hid Virgin Media
Test 35 hid Virgin Media
Test 36 hid Virgin Media
Test 37 hid Virgin Media
Test 38 hid Virgin Media
Test 39 hid Virgin Media
Test 40 hid Virgin Media
Test 41 hid Virgin Media
Test 42 hid Virgin Media
Test 43 hid Virgin Media
Test 44 hid Virgin Media
Test 45 hid Virgin Media


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...s_on_Virgin_TV

Mikey1981 02-07-2010 09:16

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This maybe the new lineup, heres hoping.

Channel name Notes Owner/parent company
Film4 HD Channel Four Television Corporation
Five HD [8] Channel 5 Broadcasting (RTL Group)
Test 34 hid Skysports1 HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 35 hid Skysports2 HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 36 hid ESPNA HD (Hearst Group owned by Disney/ABC)
Test 37 hid SkyMovies Premiere HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 38 hid SkyMovies Showcase HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 39 hid SkyMovies Comedy HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 40 hid SkyMovies Family HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 41 hid SkyMovies Modern Greats HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 42 hid SkyMovies Action/Adventure HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 43 hid SkyMovies Drama/Romance HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 44 hid SkyMovies Crime/Thriller HD (British Sky Broadcasting)
Test 45 hid SkyMovies Indie HD (British Sky Broadcasting)

I have not sourced this info from anywhere this is just my guess on what it may be.

muppetman11 02-07-2010 09:42

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Is each hid a channel testing and do we know if that channel is Hd or SD.

Horizon 02-07-2010 09:54

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...this is the response to my post on this issue from spiderplant (who's in a position to know such stuff) on the hidden channels a few days ago:

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35048571)
Sorry to disappoint, but I can exclusively reveal they are purely test channels - one on each of the new transport streams to make sure they are working correctly. They will be removed once the tests have been completed, then the real channels can be added.

The good news is that there are at least 12 transport streams and they can easily cope with all the HD and SD channels that VM will likely launch over the next few months.

muppetman11 02-07-2010 10:15

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That link on wiki states Virgin will launch the Sky basic Hd Channels sometime.before 2011 , I thought they were set to launch around the time of Sky Sports Hd.

gadge 02-07-2010 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35049978)
That link on wiki states Virgin will launch the Sky basic Hd Channels sometime.before 2011 , I thought they were set to launch around the time of Sky Sports Hd.

To be honest i wouldn't read much into what wiki says it can be tampered by anybody even sky fanboys.:D

muppetman11 02-07-2010 11:03

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Would be well cuffed if Mikey1981 prediction came true would love those channels.

borrissey 02-07-2010 11:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35050012)
Would be well cuffed if Mikey1981 prediction came true would love those channels.

That list should come true, cause we know were getting Sky Sports 1 and 2 HD. Also the Sky movie channels in HD. The rumours are that were getting ESPNA HD aswell.

:)

winkle 02-07-2010 11:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35049980)
To be honest i wouldn't read much into what wiki says it can be tampered by anybody even sky fanboys.:D

What Sky have fanboys ?

Or does Murdoch have rentboys ? ;)

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 13:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35048656)
There are only two EPGs. One for the V+HD boxes with an eight day guide and one for the others with a 24 hour guide

You sure dude? Don't V+ boxes have the eight day guide for the PVR? I take it that you're also saying that V HD (totally nonplussed) boxes don't have it either.

---------- Post added at 13:45 ---------- Previous post was at 13:37 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35048660)
From switching off analogue tv. A lot of the capacity is going to broadband though, which is why VM's bosses are confident when they are talking about 100mb launching at the end of the year and 400mb+ for the future.

Aylesbury switched of analogue over a year ago and we got some extra streams and channels soon after.

I guess they wuz holdin' out on us! Waitin' for the switch off to happen everywhere and completion of the NGTV roll-out.

Well, it's all good. Extra broadband bandwidth and extra TV channels.

---------- Post added at 14:03 ---------- Previous post was at 13:45 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35048810)
There are still regional variations, plus the various boxes count in different ways.

Too many regional variations, too many boxes, too many firmware/software versions counting channels too many ways and two (one too many) EPGs.

I'm sure that economies of scale will dictate, maybe by next year, that two boxes (one PVR, one non-PVR) both HD capable will be all that's offered in future. Indeed one box supplied with/without a hard drive and remotely configured (to prevent the adventurous from fitting their own hard drive) could do the lot.

Well, until the TiVo/VM hybrid box is released, that is.

Legacy boxes will be phased out or fizzle out if they overheat. :(

---------- Post added at 14:33 ---------- Previous post was at 14:03 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35049620)
I'm guessing the staff is not informed about testing then? :)

I'm guessing the staff is not informed about ways to view cable TV other than a VM supplied set-top-box. ;)

It was clear that the screen shot was from viewing software on a PC. It was probably only able to see Five HD because it's a free-to-air channel. :tu:

Ben B 02-07-2010 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050047)
It was clear that the screen shot was from viewing software on a PC. It was probably only able to see Five HD because it's a free-to-air channel. :tu:

If you look at the bottom it does say 'Five HD (Nagra)' though

gadge 02-07-2010 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by winkle (Post 35050033)
What Sky have fanboys ?

Or does Murdoch have rentboys ? ;)

Possibly both.:D

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 13:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35049867)
Virgin Media close NME Radio?

I know that NME Radio is to close soon on Digital TV and DAB Radio so I have been keeping an eye on Channel 975. And since about 1pm today I have seen that NME Radio is not broadcasting on Virgin.

All other networks is still broadcasting NME Radio.

I guess the NME's target audience is internet and mobile based rather than traditional cable, satellite and terrestrial (DAB) listeners.

BenMcr 02-07-2010 13:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050047)
You sure dude? Don't V+ boxes have the eight day guide for the PVR? I take it that you're also saying that V HD (totally nonplussed) boxes don't have it either.

The V HD box has a 24 hour guide, same as non-recordable SD boxes

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 14:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben B (Post 35050067)
If you look at the bottom it does say 'Five HD (Nagra)' though

Oh yeah, I had seen that alright and the check boxes in the right-hand panel were for TV, FTA and Scrambled. I knew I should have said free-to-view and not free-to-air. In fact I was going to add 'but they must be using a viewing card' to the post but submitted it prematurely as I had too many windows open and didn't want to lose any partially composed posts by accident.

---------- Post added at 15:02 ---------- Previous post was at 14:48 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35050074)
The V HD box has a 24 hour guide, same as non-recordable SD boxes

Okay, educate me!

V Box - various manufacturers and models, no HD, no PVR, one day EPG.
V+ Box - fewer manufacturers and models, no HD, PVR, eight day EPG.
V HD - fewer manufacturers and models, HD, no PVR, one day EPG.
V+ HD - fewer manufacturers and models, HD, PVR, eight day EPG.
Microwave Oven - various manufacturers and models, various power levels, various features*, hot food On Demand! ;)

Is that an accurate summary of the situation?

*mine has aroma sensor, auto defrost and more - had it twenty years still haven't used half the features

kgollop 02-07-2010 14:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050080)
V Box - various manufacturers and models, no HD, no PVR, one day EPG.
V+ Box - fewer manufacturers and models, no HD, PVR, eight day EPG.
V HD - fewer manufacturers and models, HD, no PVR, one day EPG.
V+ HD - fewer manufacturers and models, HD, PVR, eight day EPG.
Microwave Oven - various manufacturers and models, various power levels, various features*, hot food On Demand! ;)

Is that an accurate summary of the situation?

*mine has aroma sensor, auto defrost and more - had it twenty years still haven't used half the features

There's no SD V+ box, all V+ boxes are HD capable. V+ and V+ HD are one and the same. There's only one manufacturer of V-HD at present, which is Cisco.

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 14:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35049978)
That link on wiki states Virgin will launch the Sky basic Hd Channels sometime.before 2011 , I thought they were set to launch around the time of Sky Sports Hd.

Which is sometime before 2011, erm :erm:, what's your question?

A couple of years ago we had a big debate on here about what 'in the autumn' meant and which months constituted autumn. When the first leaf turned brown in their garden some people expected new channels to appear. More recently we've had criticism of posts saying 'by the end of the year' or the 'by mid-June' etc. Basically, it's coming soon ...

---------- Post added at 15:21 ---------- Previous post was at 15:12 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35050091)
There's no SD V+ box, all V+ boxes are HD capable. V+ and V+ HD are one and the same.

Good, that's one less combination to worry about. They're not one and the same though, are they? There are the older V+ boxes and the new V+ HD box that they were giving away until the end of June.
Quote:

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35050091)
There's only one manufacturer of V-HD at present, which is Cisco.

Yes but there are a shed load of multi-denominational legacy V Boxes out there.

kgollop 02-07-2010 14:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050092)
Good, that's one less combination to worry about. They're not one and the same though, are they? There are the older V+ boxes and the new V+ HD box that they were giving away until the end of June.

V+ and V+ HD are the same thing. There are two models as you rightly say, the older Scietific Atlanta box, and the newer Samsung box - both of which do HD. They are only different in a way that an old Pace V box is different from an old Samsung V Box. They do the same thing, just one is slower!

BenMcr 02-07-2010 14:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050092)
There are the older V+ boxes and the new V+ HD box that they were giving away until the end of June.
.

The V+HD is either a Samsung or SA. Both are still being installed and just the same with the older SD boxes there is no guarantee which one you get

muppetman11 02-07-2010 14:31

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[QUOTE=Felim_Doyle;35050092]Which is sometime before 2011, erm :erm:, what's your question?

A couple of years ago we had a big debate on here about what 'in the autumn' meant and which months constituted autumn. When the first leaf turned brown in their garden some people expected new channels to appear.

God you've gotta love a know it all.

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 15:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35050102)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050092)
Which is sometime before 2011, erm :erm:, what's your question?

A couple of years ago we had a big debate on here about what 'in the autumn' meant and which months constituted autumn. When the first leaf turned brown in their garden some people expected new channels to appear. More recently we've had criticism of posts saying 'by the end of the year' or the 'by mid-June' etc. Basically, it's coming soon ...

God you've gotta love a know it all.

When you were editing it (Last edited by muppetman11; Today at 15:38.) why didn't you get it right? :p: You misquoted me! :mad:

muppetman11 02-07-2010 15:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050120)
When you were editing it (Last edited by muppetman11; Today at 15:38.) why didn't you get it right? :p: You misquoted me! :mad:

Just don't like people who have nothing constructive to say.

jtaylor06 02-07-2010 16:24

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Stop arguing please.
Keep the thread clean and on topic :)

muppetman11 02-07-2010 17:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35050166)
Stop arguing please.
Keep the thread clean and on topic :)

Ok apologies Felim_Doyle.

---------- Post added at 18:46 ---------- Previous post was at 17:27 ----------

What new channel does everyone think we'll receive first.

jtaylor06 02-07-2010 17:54

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Film 4 HD :)
I think the rest will come after that by about a week?

muppetman11 02-07-2010 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35050188)
Film 4 HD :)
I think the rest will come after that by about a week?

Yeah looking forward to that , my other preferences would be Sky sports Hd , espna Hd and Sky One Hd.

Felim_Doyle 02-07-2010 18:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35050167)
Ok apologies Felim_Doyle.

---------- Post added at 18:46 ---------- Previous post was at 17:27 ----------

What new channel does everyone think we'll receive first.

I blame the hot weather or football frustration*. I just find it bewildering when my fellow forum friends take a glass half empty approach to good news about new features that are coming soon. Sorry if I upset you. I do worry about y'all ye know!

I'm pretty sure that all the new stuff from BSkyB will come together and a lot sooner than 'when England win at football' which, if the trailers for Mock the Week are anything to go by, is the new time standard for 'when hell freezes over'.

Darn, my glass is half empty and it's my second one. Dare I have another?

*Just now, on the way back from the shop with my cider, reduced price strawberries and 'expiring soon' cream (see what I've done there - I kinda made it on topic!), I saw a young guy with his mates in an old Volvo 340 which he had painted (with brush and house paint by the looks) white with a cross of Saint George over the entire body. S'pose he's got a tattoo of his ex-girlfriend's name too!

muppetman11 02-07-2010 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050199)
I blame the hot weather or football frustration*. I just find it bewildering when my fellow forum friends take a glass half empty approach to good news about new features that are coming soon. Sorry if I upset you. I do worry about y'all ye know!

I'm pretty sure that all the new stuff from BSkyB will come together and a lot sooner than 'when England win at football' which, if the trailers for Mock the Week are anything to go by, is the new time standard for 'when hell freezes over'.

Darn, my glass is half empty and it's my second one. Dare I have another?

*Just now, on the way back from the shop with my cider, reduced price strawberries and 'expiring soon' cream (see what I've done there - I kinda made it on topic!), I saw a young guy with his mates in an old Volvo 340 which he had painted (with brush and house paint by the looks) white with a cross of Saint George over the entire body. S'pose he's got a tattoo of his ex-girlfriend's name too!

No worries mate LOL :-)

jtaylor06 02-07-2010 19:24

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Seen advert on Sky Sports News.
"Sky Sports 1 HD
Sky Sports 2 HD
Sky Sports 3 HD
Sky Sports 4 HD
Sky Sports News HD

Only on Sky

*Sky Sports News HD launching soon"

So it looks like we may not see it on cable this month, otherwise it is waste of an advert for Sky.
But then I could be wrong?
Time will tell

chris9991 02-07-2010 19:35

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It's only Sky Sports 1 + 2 in HD that Virgin and Sky have agreed carriage for, at the moment

kgollop 02-07-2010 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chris9991 (Post 35050225)
It's only Sky Sports 1 + 2 in HD that Virgin and Sky have agreed carriage for, at the moment

No we won't get Sky Sports 3 or 4 HD. We don't know for sure what has been agreed for the Sky Basics though,and Sky Sports News HD could potentially come as part of this.

jtaylor06 02-07-2010 19:56

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Correction, I saw the post on ITV1 HD as I was watching the Ghana match. So it's got to be a proper advert too, and not one of those that the broadcaster themselves can place for free.

muppetman11 02-07-2010 20:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35050234)
Correction, I saw the post on ITV1 HD as I was watching the Ghana match. So it's got to be a proper advert too, and not one of those that the broadcaster themselves can place for free.

Typical Sky Tactics hope people leave them with there £3.00 increase on Sky Sports.

jtaylor06 02-07-2010 20:21

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They spat their dummy out over the BT thing.
All they care about is the money and not the customers.

muppetman11 02-07-2010 20:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35050242)
They spat their dummy out over the BT thing.
All they care about is the money and not the customers.

Let's hope it backfires on them. Is the £3.00increase just on Sky Sports ? That seems pricey.

jtaylor06 02-07-2010 20:38

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Sports packages according to DS
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1288035

Chad 02-07-2010 20:54

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The advert I watched states 5 SKY Sports HD channels only on SKY. Sure we'll get our 2 here at Virgin, but you'll need to join SKY to receive all 5.

muppetman11 02-07-2010 20:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35050249)

Lots of disgruntled Sky customers

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1288040

Arthurgray50@blu 02-07-2010 21:13

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As faras l know, Sky haven't increased there prices, and don't normally until September, and this has been like natural, and l have been with Sky a very long time.

Normally we get a letter telling us of the increase, as soon as l get the letter, l will let members know.

Xanta 02-07-2010 21:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35050270)
As faras l know, Sky haven't increased there prices, and don't normally until September, and this has been like natural, and l have been with Sky a very long time.

Normally we get a letter telling us of the increase, as soon as l get the letter, l will let members know.

It has already been announced, but like you say it is not happening til September:

Source

trevrpb 02-07-2010 21:57

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Perhaps this is not thread for this but......

Im a bit confused by this talk that BT Vision will be 'out of pocket' because Sky are increasing their prices to Sky Subscribers.
Surely BT Vision's deal was completed at a specific price on expected take up and they have priced it accordingly to it's own economies of scale to its customers, and the SKY Subs price increase will have no effect whatsoever on BT's prices.

I would be gobsmacked if the carriage deal was done where a Sky sub rise had to be absorbed by BT.

TrevP

kgollop 02-07-2010 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trevrpb (Post 35050292)
Perhaps this is not thread for this but......

Im a bit confused by this talk that BT Vision will be 'out of pocket' because Sky are increasing their prices to Sky Subscribers.
Surely BT Vision's deal was completed at a specific price on expected take up and they have priced it accordingly to it's own economies of scale to its customers, and the SKY Subs price increase will have no effect whatsoever on BT's prices.

I would be gobsmacked if the carriage deal was done where a Sky sub rise had to be absorbed by BT.

TrevP

From what I understand, the wholesale price to BT was set by Ofcom - but linked to the Sky price. BT set their prices based on the Ofcom price, Sky then put the prices up by £3 to their own customers - which meant the wholsale price to BT went up by a similar ammount. Apparently this doesn't affect VM as they have a seperate deal with Sky (which I don't fully understand).

jtaylor06 02-07-2010 22:07

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I always think that the lower the price, the more customers are going to join, which in turn makes more revenue anyway.
Which is what BT have probably thought.
Putting it up is going to put people off. £3, although quite a small number, is bit of a hike when it comes to billing.

HDFootyMan 02-07-2010 22:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kgollop (Post 35050294)
From what I understand, the wholesale price to BT was set by Ofcom - but linked to the Sky price. BT set their prices based on the Ofcom price, Sky then put the prices up by £3 to their own customers - which meant the wholsale price to BT went up by a similar ammount. Apparently this doesn't affect VM as they have a seperate deal with Sky (which I don't fully understand).

Some 'experts' over at DS reckon that this effects VM as well, since the price VM are paying is the wholesale price as outlined by OFCOM.

And since that wholesale price has just gone up.... :erm:

kgollop 02-07-2010 22:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HDFootyMan (Post 35050297)
Some 'experts' over at DS reckon that this effects VM as well, since the price VM are paying is the wholesale price as outlined by OFCOM.

And since that wholesale price has just gone up.... :erm:

Which would make sense to me to be honest. This is where I read they are unaffected though:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010...-raises-prices

I think if VM were affected by this, we'd have probably heard some public outcry by now as we have from BT? Anyway, we're getting off Topic...

winkle 03-07-2010 12:57

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Right people, I have this from a good source.

Virgin will announce in the next 2 weeks the launch of the Sky HD Channels, Along with FIVE HD, HALLMARK HD & a few more HD that are unconfirmed at the moment. There will be more SD channels aswell mainly +1 (Five, Fiver, Five USA, ect)

There is not expected to be a increase in pricing. The reason Sky have increased the Sports is because they are dropping the £10 for HD, therefore need to make the money back (via Sports subscriptions)

kgollop 03-07-2010 13:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by winkle (Post 35050429)
Right people, I have this from a good source.

Virgin will announce in the next 2 weeks the launch of the Sky HD Channels, Along with FIVE HD, HALLMARK HD & a few more HD that are unconfirmed at the moment. There will be more SD channels aswell mainly +1 (Five, Fiver, Five USA, ect)

There is not expected to be a increase in pricing. The reason Sky have increased the Sports is because they are dropping the £10 for HD, therefore need to make the money back (via Sports subscriptions)

Sounds like your source has been speaking to Nialli too :D

http://vmhd.blogspot.com/2010/07/fil...-july-8th.html

I hope this is true, I'm spending way too much time on here trying to find out if they've announced it yet!

GordonD 03-07-2010 14:00

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I wait patiently for these extra HD channels, more so since I ditched my sky sub recently in favour of VM ;)

jtaylor06 03-07-2010 14:34

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Do you think it will be within the next 2 weeks, or after 2 weeks?

scaseman 03-07-2010 15:15

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Quote:

I wait patiently for these extra HD channels, more so since I ditched my sky sub recently in favour of VM
Ditto.

nstokes 03-07-2010 17:31

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how do i get the test streams? do i need a diffrent box?

jtaylor06 03-07-2010 17:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35050503)
how do i get the test streams? do i need a diffrent box?

Customers can't see them on the EPG
They're not intended to be shown :)

nstokes 03-07-2010 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35050504)
Customers can't see them on the EPG
They're not intended to be shown :)

that sucks, wa hoping to see the good quailty VM are sending on five HD :D

wwe 03-07-2010 17:43

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anything new happening this month

jtaylor06 03-07-2010 17:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35050505)
that sucks, wa hoping to see the good quailty VM are sending on five HD :D

lol hopefully we can in a few weeks time when it is released *cross fingers* :)

nstokes 03-07-2010 17:48

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im liking the new hd lineup vm are getting, i dont have ss or sm but i like the sound of the hd channel versions

wwe 03-07-2010 17:50

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Thought we ment 2 have got sky sports hd and film 4 hd 2 days ago

jtaylor06 03-07-2010 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35050515)
Thought we ment 2 have got sky sports hd and film 4 hd 2 days ago

Film4 HD is 8 July :)
It's not on the EPG yet

Mikey1981 03-07-2010 18:13

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I wonder if the VM bigwigs read this thread and wait until the absolute last possible moment to tell us the news? Lol, we all specualte so much, I can imagine them in an office going not yet lets see what the reply is.

wwe 03-07-2010 18:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jtaylor06 (Post 35050516)
Film4 HD is 8 July :)
It's not on the EPG yet

thanks do u know about sky sports hd

sherer 03-07-2010 18:27

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does anyone else think OFCOM have create yet another loophole for whole. if the wholesale price is linked to the Sky price then all Sky need to do is increase that.

Surely the wholesale price for VM \ BT etc should be different to the Sky price as it all comes from different streams

Xanta 03-07-2010 18:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35050525)
does anyone else think OFCOM have create yet another loophole for whole. if the wholesale price is linked to the Sky price then all Sky need to do is increase that.

Surely the wholesale price for VM \ BT etc should be different to the Sky price as it all comes from different streams

True, but if they keep raising the price then they will just anger the sky customers so they can't do it to much

TheDon 03-07-2010 18:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35050525)
does anyone else think OFCOM have create yet another loophole for whole. if the wholesale price is linked to the Sky price then all Sky need to do is increase that.

Surely the wholesale price for VM \ BT etc should be different to the Sky price as it all comes from different streams

No, because Sky raising their prices for their customers means that other providers can STILL offer competitive pricing, they're still able to undercut Sky.

There's only really two ways for Ofcom to dictate pricing, cost plus, where it's worked out on the cost price of delivering the channel with an added margin, which is extremely difficult to work out, or retail minus, where the retail cost is taken, and a margin removed from it, which is the route they've taken. Both of them mean that competitors can still undercut Sky, or at the very worse offer equivalent pricing. Anything else will either result in Sky being able to cut their pricing to levels below what competitors can charge, or competitors paying less than what it actually costs Sky to deliver the channels so Sky could in theory lose money on it.

The current deal is actually punitive to Sky, because if someone undercuts Sky they can't cut their retail pricing to compete because that'll result in cutting the wholesale price and meaning their competitors can then cut their prices again. In theory Sky can never win a price war on their own channels if a competitor is happy to not make money on them and just to offer them at close to wholesale pricing.

You have to remember that this is all about relative pricing, the pricing competitors can offer relative to Skys. If Sky puts up their retail price then it doesn't change the situation other than meaning all consumers are paying more. It doesn't make Sky any more attractive.

The issue here is that if BT honour their advertised pricing they'll be losing money, and if they have to redo all their advertising to reflect the new pricing they'll lose money. This is really BT's fault because the final pricing deadline was exactly when Sky announced the price rises, so it was entirely foreseeable.

jtaylor06 03-07-2010 18:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35050524)
thanks do u know about sky sports hd

Nope, i'm just referring to any information on this thread :)
Wikipedia says that Sky Sports HD will be any time in July
Movies HD and Sky Basics is however under "Before 2011"

Arthurgray50@blu 03-07-2010 20:03

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I think that the price hike by Sky is spiteful and sting in the tail for everyone, My price will go up and therefore many of the boxes l have will have to be cancelled.

Sky will price themself out of the market, especially with all the cutbacks everyone is making to make money work out.

Horizon 03-07-2010 21:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 35050509)
anything new happening this month

Might rain?

Digital Fanatic 03-07-2010 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35050563)
I think that the price hike by Sky is spiteful and sting in the tail for everyone, My price will go up and therefore many of the boxes l have will have to be cancelled.

Sky will price themself out of the market, especially with all the cutbacks everyone is making to make money work out.

VM have signed a seperate deal, so I believe you will be unaffected for now.

Felim_Doyle 04-07-2010 09:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35050606)
Might rain?

Oh man! When were they going to tell us that? After I'd watered the garden, set up the BBQ and booked my outdoor concert tickets? Typical VM*! :rolleyes:

*Veather Men

---------- Post added at 10:43 ---------- Previous post was at 10:20 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by nstokes (Post 35050503)
how do i get the test streams? do i need a diffrent box?

I believe that some boxes can detect the extra planned channels but you can't see them because they're not in the EPG yet. Also, I get the impression that some posters in this thread are guinea pigs as part of VM test groups for various services and have early access to what's coming soon ...

nstokes 04-07-2010 09:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050760)
[/COLOR]I believe that some boxes can detect the extra planned channels but you can't see them because they're not in the EPG yet. Also, I get the impression that some posters in this thread are guinea pigs as part of VM test groups for various services and have early access to what's coming soon ...

cheers my friend, wish i had that access, guess ill have to keep dreaming in my sleeps :p:

Nook29 04-07-2010 11:28

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This weeks live sport on ESPN.

daveetwo 04-07-2010 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35050606)
Might rain?

But will be HD or 3D rain?:D

Felim_Doyle 04-07-2010 13:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daveetwo (Post 35050830)
But will be HD or 3D rain?:D

Different degrees of deluge:-
  • SD - Slight Drizzle
  • HD - Heavy Downpour
  • 3D - Dive, Dive, Dive!!!

mhatter67 04-07-2010 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 35050878)
Different degrees of deluge:-
  • SD - Slight Drizzle
  • HD - Heavy Downpour
  • 3D - Dive, Dive, Dive!!!

  • SD - cannot see
  • HD - great quality
  • 3D - in your living room

Arthurgray50@blu 04-07-2010 16:50

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I was talking to a VM engineer, and he told me that VM are not planning on anymore HD channels entering the network, for several more months yet.

gadge 04-07-2010 17:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35051011)
I was talking to a VM engineer, and he told me that VM are not planning on anymore HD channels entering the network, for several more months yet.

Don`t believe what engineers tell you arthur.They are full off ****.:erm:

jtaylor06 04-07-2010 17:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 35051027)
Don`t believe what engineers tell you arthur.They are full off ****.:erm:

Virgin are focusing on HD this year.
They are testing Five HD as seen on a screenshot from DS somewhere earlier in this thread
They need to as people want it as you can see from this thread too :P

Digital Fanatic 04-07-2010 17:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35051011)
I was talking to a VM engineer, and he told me that VM are not planning on anymore HD channels entering the network, for several more months yet.

not true... more is on the way :)

muppetman11 04-07-2010 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35051011)
I was talking to a VM engineer, and he told me that VM are not planning on anymore HD channels entering the network, for several more months yet.

Well he's wrong.

donkbong 04-07-2010 22:05

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Hello everyone, i'm rightly saying that the red button will take sometimes to develop on virgin media platform, will it be available for august time?:dozey:

Digital Fanatic 04-07-2010 22:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by donkbong (Post 35051198)
Hello everyone, i'm rightly saying that the red button will take sometimes to develop on virgin media platform, will it be available for august time?:dozey:

it will take some time, but should be available for the new prem footie season AFAIK.

wwe 04-07-2010 22:18

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i so car't wait for sky sports in HD i will get footballl in HD and wwe car't wait


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