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Such as ? Apart from the signs at the side of the race I can't see much else. The hospitality is all provided for them by the teams.

How they use that exposure on the cars for adverts and access to the drivers is all down the deal they sign with the drivers.

Not sure what exactly they are after here

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There is brand awareness to consider as well. For example, McLaren is not called McLaren anymore, it is "Vodafone McLaren Mercedes." Although, there are not many commentators who call it that. Perhaps that is what they are trying to achieve.

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For example Santanders advert in which Lewis Hamilton appears as a piece together model and car.. Do you think that Santander could have used the F1 logo's in that advert without permission from Bernie???

As I said it's a lot more than a simple logo on a car..

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They get that from paying for title sponsorship of the team and as such the team is entered under that name. FOM use these on the graphics. If a sponsor doesn't pay for that then they aren't entered under that name.

The BBC aren't advertisers and so don't have to promote other brands. Also as F1 is broadcast across most countries in the world it would be down to whatever laws existed in that country.

Can't see how Bernie or FOM can have much of an impact on any of the above.

They don't need, and haven't even noticed, the F1 logo in that add. They are promoting their own brand and as part of their deal with McLaren can they produce a likeness of their car.

Not watched the ad that closely but have they re-produced all their other sponsors i.e Vodophone, Aigo etc or just their own one ?

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So, they get what they pay for. If they want more control then they should be prepared to may more money. They were aware of the conditions and the terms of business when they signed their deals, they can't just suddenly change their minds about the amount of control they want.

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Santander (like other sponsors) don't just pay for the livery but also the association with F1 and it's the association that is the biggest money spinner for them..

You'll find that the McLaren car and it's usage in adverts is regulated again partly by Bernie.. And that's the issue.. It's not just a case of Mclaren controlling their own advertising but instead it's the rules set down by F1 which controls to some extent advertising and sponsorship of the teams/tracks/people/merchandising...etc..

If it was just a case of Santander & Mclaren shaking hands then I'd perfectly agree with you but it's not

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I think part of the problem is that Bernie wants to take at least partial control of *every* aspect of F1, and I don't doubt he has a whole bunch of regulations on how F1 teams can involved sponsors.

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do you have any proof of this ? I'm not aware of any rules or agreements that prevent teams exploiting their own commercial value. Bernie only has a the trade marks over the F1, FOM logos and Formula One and associated names.

McLaren own the IP to their car and as part of that IP, their image too and so can exploit that as much as they like. They would need to pay Bernie if they also wanted to put the F1 logo in but then it is pretty clear from the image this is a formula one racing car and so there is no need for that.

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The proof is the simple fact that the sponsors have to form their own group in the hope of improving their sitaution with the F1 owners ;) Apart from that it'll all be bound within confidential contracts..but it has been well known that all teams participating within most sports have to sign over some control..

Take for example in football when they interview the managers/players in front of the camera after the match... do you think that the manager wants a barclays advert behind them instead of their own team sponsors ;)

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It's weird how this has come up as during the last post-qualifying interviews we were explaning to my partners mother about sports sponsorship and how the logo's on the clothing were split up into different groups.. Those being F1 sponsors, Team sponsors, driver sponsors.. and also explainign to her that a driver sponsor wasn;t just paying money to the driver, but some of that money will go towards the team for allowing their overalls to be used to carry the sponsor and some of the money will go to F1 for the priviledge of sponsoring during a F1 arranged interview...

Gone are the days when it was so simple :(

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Indeed. People tend not to join groups to say they are happy. Look at this forum for an example of that.

Companies are no different. If they are happy, they aren't going to rock the apple cart.

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all the article mentions is that the sponsors aren't happy with some of the venues F1 is going to where they don't always have a market and that they don't like the testing ban as testing was a good way for them to entertain clients and get easier access to a driver than during a GP weekend.

Can't see any mention anywhere in the setup of the group where they claim they are restricted from using images they pay to have on cars.

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You've chosen one paragraph in the whole news article, reread it and you'll see it's about more than just a few venues :(

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yes i've read it again and no where can I see any quotes that the sponsors are unhappy that they can't exploit the image of the cars.

In fact looking at the airfix advert they seem to be doing ok

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsx7af35TdM

Can't see any issues with exploiting the image there, they even do a good job of advertising vodafone too

There is more detail here and Chris Sylt writes a lot foor pitpass

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=41733

No mention on there of issues of exploiting cars images but again it does rememtion the fact that not all sponsors will be happy with all the venues

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I never said they were ;) the car scenario was an example of what restrictions they have (or do you actually believe they wanted to advertise vodaphone along with their bank???), what I am saying is that they are restricted in not only the sponsorship of the cars but also in the totallity of Bernies control over what they can or can't do.. Hence this new group has been formed as singularly they have little power, but together they can perhaps get a fairer deal..

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can't see how Bernie will care at all.

This years Ferrari has almost no sponsorship on it but Bernie still gets the same money, the same as when Honda did the earthdreams thing Bernie still got the same.

They won't affect his business model so not sure he cares

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Ferrari doesn't do any advertising apart from F1.

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I meant the fact that the car itself doesn't have much advertising on it

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What do you think the big bar code is on the Ferrari car??? It's not there for them to scan the car at pit-stops, instead it's a Malboro advert designed to get passed the tobacco ad rules ;)

Along with their own minor sponsors such as Mubadala, AMD, Acer,Etihad and also F1 sponsors that Bernie gives them concessions as well as taking profit to put on the car (Santander, Shelll, Bridgestone)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/09/38.jpg

Also have you ever heard of Sponsors Premium with events???

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there is no barcode on the side of the car

http://www.autosport.com/gallery/photo.php/id/13259365

Can't see one there and it hasn't been there since the Spanish GP

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpa...s_art_id=40647

Actually the Ferrari sponsorship is a strange case as actually the whole car is owned by Phillip Morris the parent company of Marlboro. All the other sponsors buy the space back off them.

yes Ferrari have a better commercial deal with Bernie than all the other teams and always get a lrager payment each season, they will get that whether the car is covered in logos or not.

Bernie sells the Ferrari brand to the countries hosting GPs not Marlboro

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When I said Ferrari don't advertise, I meant in the same way as other companys do, TV, Mags etc.

They may sponsor races and events, but thats not advertising.

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I agree with kymmy. What the f1 teams can and cant do is undoubtedly defined by their contract with the fia. If it is, we will never find out, as they will undoubtedly have non disclosure clauses.

They are clearly unhappy. They aren't going to form a group if they aren't.

As for Bernie Eccelstone's assertion they are silly. Perhaps he has forgotton that they pay a huge percentage of the costs of f1. He remembered this once and supposedly lobbied for a delay on the ban on tobacco sponsorship.

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Button injured in serious F1 accident

http://twitpic.com/2rvi8m

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Ummm...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/34...-post1366.html ;)

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If you looked through last years and the years before that F1 thread I think you will find that in each one.:D:D:D

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I got it from Srephen Fry.

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I think that I posted that last year but I still find it stupidly amusing.:p:

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Lewis you stupid idiot!!!!!

He does need to reign in some of these moves!!!

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What I would like to know is, why at the start when Alonso needed to be on the right for the corner, felt the need to steer left and force the RB to react?

Yet again Alonso is cheating, yet another hollow Ferrari victory looming.

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He's certainly going the right way about throwing away any chance of the championship.

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Kubica showed how it should have been done when he overtook Hulkenberg at the same corner in the closing stages. OK there was a higher speed differential, but Kubica seemed to leave more room for the Hulk on the inside, than Hamilton allowed Webber?

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Why give away a solid fourth place in the chance you may get 3 extra points :confused:

Sometimes discretion is the better part of valour, but at the same time Lewis wouldn`t be Lewis if he didn`t go-for-it. :)

Really, really hope Alonso doesn`t win the drivers crown, go on the Aussie :D

Is it just me or has that track got to be one of the most boring circuits on the calender? The only thing that gives it some allure is the fact it`s driven at night with all the flashing lights and fabulous background. Kubica did some passing late on which was something but that was just fresh tyres and go for a few points, the ones he passed didn`t seem to put up much of a fight. The rest of the race was tedious imo...

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So bernie said F1 2011 will be in HD, LOL it will mean letting the moths out of his wallet, so I doubt all will be in HD, only the "best" track in his opinion will get it, so you can rule ou Silverstone.

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Bernie worried over Korean GP

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9034407.stm

Again, why are things being left to the last minute? The track didn't get it's FIA inspection on 21st September as it was a national holiday, so now it has to wait until 11th October before an inspection, a mere 11 days before the team start to practice at the circuit.

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1-Its easy to be harsh on Lewis, but lets face it with so little actual on track overtaking the effort should be applauded. I don't know what forced him out, was it suspension of drive line failure?

2-Starts, this one move rule is really bugging me it seems that the FIA seem to think its OK to block off the line, will take a major startline accident for action to be taken. I don't think you should able to blatantly block off the start. If someone else has a better start tough, don't block them.

3-Although the Lotus team seem to have loads of good support and a strong support in the paddock they could be in trouble as Group Lotus has really upped the ante with their race campaign and there are big arguments over the rights to use the Lotus name. I really hope Tony Fernandez and Mike Gascoyne can sort it out. I actually don't mind if they are Lotus, Team Asia or Team Norfolk and Chance ;) they have raced with a good attitude and deserve success. Likewise I hope Group Lotus and Proton do well with their programme.
More here http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87050
and here http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/0...enes-at-lotus/

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Whilst I agree that it was a risky manoeuvre (but isn't that what racing, especially Formual One, is all about), it was not unprecedented, nor was it subsequently avoided by others, in exactly the same place and under the same circumstances. The difference being is that the drivers who were behind, gave way. I do think that Webber is more to blame the Hamilton. Hamilton was ahead of him and Webber probably should have yielded. Webber even said before the race that he was prepared to do anything to ensure he wins the championship.

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Because those three points could mean the difference between being first or nowhere.

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I believe it was a puncture.

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But could the 12 points lost mean the difference between being first or nowhere! ;)

I`m not dissing Lewis, he`s a pure racer and that`s why the majority love his driving so much. But i think at this stage of the season you can`t throw points away. You just have to take the good with the bad, allways next season :)

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The problem is you only lose the points after the move fails, up to that point it's all about the gain he can make.

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Lotus are really showing their ambitions for next year. They have signed up for the Red Bull Transmission and hydraulics for next year. Couple that with the Renault engine and a tidy little Mike Gascoyne designed car and you have apckage that should be more than capable of taking the fight to Force India, Sauber and Torro Rosso, never mind HRT and Virgin.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87198

Lets hope they get the name sorted out amicably because they are really showing some ambition now.

Good luck to all at "Team Norfolk" ;)

Lets see how Virgin respond to that ?

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So no qualifying today.... shame!!! Gonna be an interesting weekend

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For those that don't know the new qualifying time is Sunday morning at 10:00am track time (2:00am our time) with the race still set to start at 7:00am our time..

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;)Get the Red Bull out, its going to be a long night !!

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Nah, DVR the qualifying, wake up at 6am, wizz through the 3 sessions only (50 minutes) and enough time to make another cup of tea before the race

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Wonder what they`ll do if it rains like it did when qualie was supposed to be on :erm:

Bit of Lewis in action :D

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7...100912h56m.gif

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That's not him "hooning" around is it? ;)

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Martin Brundle on Massa: "his only chance is to straight line the last chicane and hope nobody notices" LOL

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Well that was an incident filled start.

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Yep.... Digrassi taking first honours... then Petrov and Hulkenberg (sp?) and then Massa and Luizzi... and not to be left out the gremlins decide to have a go at Kubica's rear right :rofl:


Suprised that Button didn't let Lewis through on the first "racing" lap

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Lewis's 3rd gear. Nico's Left tyre and the BBC commentary all take a sympathy strike :D

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A great 1 & 2 for Vettel & Webber (Redbull)

Glad Lewis managed to finish in 5th as another DNF would have crushed him.. Shame on the gearbox problem as he could have probably taken 3rd from Alfonso

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Driver of the race for me goes to Kobayashi..the Hairpin king :D

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On the plus side, Lee McKenzie is better looking than Jake Humphrey. :D

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......and doesn't carry an iPad everywhere she goes.

Shame about the rain yesterday, she looks better without her coat on ;)

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Come on BBC put Lee as main host.

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Much nicer than that Jake x`er

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/650/leeair202.jpg

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Korean GP has ben given the go ahead

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9081589.stm

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Wet, wet and wet... Oh I do love these races :)

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Start delayed for 10 minutes, odds on a safety car start???

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Crikey, that is a lot of spray. Safety car was the right option.

Red Flag, race stopped after three laps behind the safety car. Doesn't look good for a proper race at this time.

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Red flagged after 3 laps behind the SC.. Rain still forcast for 20 minutes :(

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David Coultard reporting that McLaren's radar shows rain for the next hour.

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Set V+ to record Andrew Marr show as well. No idea when this will finish.

Suppose to be taking the boys swimming at 9:30 !

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Look at those puddles, thats not proper Manchester rain ;)

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Thank gawd I've got a book to read :rolleyes:

As for Manchester Rain.. at least it never stopped traffic!!!

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Does anyone on here ride motorbikes? Is that visibility any worse than overtaking a truck on the motorway in the rain ?

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Manchester rain has, on occasion, properly scared me on the motorway.;)

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Nice to hear Lewis's team radio, he wants to be about his business.

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oh come on, get on with it !!

:zzz:

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Oh great changing channel on us at 09.30!

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Yep, Remember being blown across 3 lanes of the M62 on my way from Manchester to Huddersfield in torrential rain on my old CX500 I used to courrier on at the time..

As for passing lorries most of the time you can view ahead and quickly overtake unlike racing a car of equal speed

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There is far too much driver power, there is almost ;)a dry line now :mad::mad:

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Safety car coming in, about time.

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Webber you arse !

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Button in for intermediates, out into traffic.

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Vettle blows his engine!

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After a slow start, this has turned into an incident filled race. As I type Sutil does something stupid.

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Good race for Alonso, Lewis has got to be happy with 2nd, no points for Jenson and the DNF's for Vitel and Webber.

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They really should have said to Korea "Sorry but you don't have a suitable track" and then postponed the inclusion until next year and allowed other races to season the track into a suitable circuit..

Still though a race that has evened up the championship table

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You know why Vettel wanted to stop the race due to "poor light", he should have said "my engine is about to go bang" :D

Trouble is the toy thrower is leading the title:(

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set the V+ and also recorded the next programme then they changed to BBC 2 :mad:

Was a good race without much actual racing on the track except from Sutil.

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Sutil was a one man demolition derby !!! :erm:

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Was thinking the same, brand new track, not a street circuit, so why the hell didn't they design decent crane access in?

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But he did have the guts to be totally open and honest in his post race interview :)

Realistically Button is out of it I think. An engine failure for Alonso and a win for Lewis with Webber 2nd and Kubica 3rd in the next race would spice it up. If it needs spicing up :):)

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Bernie said it would be OK, so it must be OK. I mean Bernie can't possibly wrong, can he ?;)

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I think he can ban you from watching F1, if you even think it, let alone type it

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Ok Title run in prediction

Drivers Championship

1-Webber
2-Hamilton
3-Alonso
4-Vettel
5-Button

No I have NOT done any mathematical analysis, simply an enthusiastic stab in the dark. :):)

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I think that mono-eyebrow man* will unfortunately win :(. * aka Alonso.

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Penultimate race weekend starts today at Brazil.. FP/Q/Race times are as follows

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FYI - If you listen to F1 on the radio it is on Five Live Sports Extra this Sunday as it clashes with the football which takes priority (as the Premier League could be decided at that time)

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Alfonso retired with a few seconds to go in FP1.. hopefully he's blown his last engine :D

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going to be interesting if Alonso wins by 7 points or less...

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A replacement to washed out qualifying ;)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11701657

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That's a tad harsh for you ;), normally you are the bastion of fair play :angel:

Now if it was Vettel that had a motor problem...........................

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Three drivers I do not like and would love to see them leave F1 is Alfonso, Schummy and Backstabbin_Button

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You got to have drivers that you love to hate tho, makes it more exciting!!

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Oh yes, Vettel & Schumi
;)

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Wow!, where did that come from? Well done Nico Hulkenberg.

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Nice one Hulk Smash!!!

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Toy thrower 5th :D

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This sounds like brown trouser stuff :shocked: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11704802

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Well the car was armoured.

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Now if it had happened on the way to Qualifying he would have had an excuse for the dismal performance...

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he did imply that his tyres were shot ...;)

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I'll get you your coat.

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3 Sauber engineers did get robbed at gunpoint after qualifying yesterday.

http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/33257.html

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Also nice to be watching it on BBC HD, which i hope will show an improvement in picture quality compared to normal V+ upscaling.

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Shot? Or was that a spelling mistake?

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So Webber is right, RB what Vettel to win the driver championship.

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At least toy thrower didn't win.

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Looks like Virgin Racing will have a bit more cash next year, or maybe Richard Branson wont have to put his hand in his pocket as much.

Significant buy in Marussia Motors......

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88125

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Last weekend of the season just about to start with FP1 (times are as follows)

Just to remind us all as to who we voted for for the two championships here they are

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seems to be pouring with rain there too .

Lets hope it's an exciting race, as the title decider it should be but if they don't race it other on track then then it could turn into another borefest in the desert like Bahrain

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So it could/should end up Red Bull and Webber :erm: :doh: who`d have thunk it!

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I am firmly in the 'Anyone but Alonso' camp - Webber would be an hugely popular world champion & I really hope he can do it.

- not to imply I'm not supporting Lewis, but Dubai is a good place for sandbagging, unfortunately ;)