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TheDaddy 28-10-2009 08:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingbuxton (Post 34899012)
I just had this argument at work, the idea being that because Carragher touched the ball, it's a good tackle, wrong. I put it this way, Scholes is the worst tackler ever, he flies in and takes the man, but he generally hits the ball as well. If the ball isn't taken out of the path of the player, how is it a tackle?
Ball first then a bit of player = good tackle, this is a contact game after all, Scholes takes man first a lot of the time and that isn't on.

Shadow Demon UK 28-10-2009 11:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34899238)
Ball first then a bit of player = good tackle

Why was Gary Neville sent off last night then? ;)

TheDaddy 28-10-2009 19:29
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34899298)
Why was Gary Neville sent off last night then? ;)
Because he is a complete richard head

Charlie_Bubble 28-10-2009 20:20
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If you watch the Gary Neville "challenge" you'll note he got the ball, slightly withdrew his foot and then decided to leave it in to get the man deliberately. There was intent to hurt/injure the other player.

Damien 29-10-2009 15:14
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Great watching Arsenal's youth team (and Nasri, Eduardo and Bentner) last night. Great game. Wonderful goals from Arsenal and Liverpool, Liverpool's one was an incredible shot. Same nice passing going on as well. Haven't seen a game which such passing in a long time. Not sure if that was because of the players being more relaxed or the defences being crap but still.

Gibbs is looking very good after the rather dodgy season last year. Ramsay is showing why he is about to make the leap into the main team, only being kept out because Arsenal are not short of great midfielders. That itself is becoming a problem, too many quality midfielders that some won't get a game.

SB_07 29-10-2009 18:17
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Quote:
Wigan striker Wigan striker Marlon King has been jailed for 18 months after being found guilty of a nightclub attack on a young woman.

King, who was celebrating both his wife's pregnancy and scoring a winning goal hours earlier, was repeatedly "cold-shouldered" by women revellers in London's packed Soho Revue Bar last December.

When a slightly-built university student became the latest to recoil from his touch, he lost his temper and in an outburst of "completely gratuitous violence" lashed out, "smashing" her to the floor.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...659696,00.html

Hopefully he gets "smashed to the floor" while he's enjoying his time away from football.

Saaf_laandon_mo 29-10-2009 18:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34900079)
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...659696,00.html

Hopefully he gets "smashed to the floor" while he's enjoying his time away from football.
He's also been sacked from his club according to the BBC.

SB_07 29-10-2009 18:22
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What makes this even worse is he has a wife and kids. What a total....yeah.

Saaf_laandon_mo 29-10-2009 18:25
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34900081)
What makes this even worse is he has a wife and kids. What a total....yeah.
He was trying it on with a girl in a club whilst out celebrating his wife's latest pregnancy. You couldn't make it up could you. A case of too much money, not enough brains!

soicky 29-10-2009 18:27
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Funny way to celebrate your wife's pregnancy by hitting on women and than punching one.

nffc 29-10-2009 18:31
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King's making quite a habit of that. When he was at Gillingham, before we signed him, he was in jail for 18 months (and only served 5) for having a stolen car...

Matty_ 29-10-2009 18:46
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I`m sure i read today it was a case of mis-taken identity....:notme:

Yeh right Mr King you complete and utter coward, i sinceraly hope you get some of :upyours: while doing your porridge, people like you make me wan`t to puke...

Damien 29-10-2009 21:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34900080)
He's also been sacked from his club according to the BBC.
Good for Wigan :tu:

TheDaddy 30-10-2009 08:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nffc (Post 34900095)
King's making quite a habit of that. When he was at Gillingham, before we signed him, he was in jail for 18 months (and only served 5) for having a stolen car...
Your not wrong, he had 13 previous offences taken into consideration

In 2003 he was convicted of two counts of common assault after chasing two women through the streets of Soho with a belt and buckle wrapped round his right fist.

Three years later he was fined for threatening behaviour after slapping a woman and spitting at her when the police arrived

King told her: “You’re not even in my league, love, I’m a multimillionaire.”

You might be a millionaire but you have no class, one of the worst aspects of football today is that players of such limited ability earn so much money, still he isn't going to be earning anything for a while and given his previous he can count himself lucky not to be serving longer.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6896226.ece

Good

Striker Marlon King will miss out on £2.7m in wages after his sacking by Wigan in the aftermath of his 18-month jail sentence for sexual assault.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Damien 30-10-2009 10:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34900407)
Quote:
As the sentence was pronounced, several of King’s supporters swore at the judge and loudly accused him of “institutional racism”. One, referring to the acquittal of the Liverpool captain for affray, shouted: “Steven Gerrard’s still walking the streets.” Another added: “Heil Hitler.”
I wish they would get charged with contempt of court! :td:

sherer 30-10-2009 10:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34900407)
Your not wrong, he had 13 previous offences taken into consideration

In 2003 he was convicted of two counts of common assault after chasing two women through the streets of Soho with a belt and buckle wrapped round his right fist.

Three years later he was fined for threatening behaviour after slapping a woman and spitting at her when the police arrived

King told her: “You’re not even in my league, love, I’m a multimillionaire.”

You might be a millionaire but you have no class, one of the worst aspects of football today is that players of such limited ability earn so much money, still he isn't going to be earning anything for a while and given his previous he can count himself lucky not to be serving longer.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6896226.ece

Good

Striker Marlon King will miss out on £2.7m in wages after his sacking by Wigan in the aftermath of his 18-month jail sentence for sexual assault.
Full story: Daily Mirror
it's about time these sort of people start getting loinger sentences. he is already going to appeal and so by the time that is heard he will do less than half the sentence when clearly this sort of behaviour is part of his character

Saaf_laandon_mo 30-10-2009 10:46
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Having read of his previous convictions and the lenient sentances imposed for them, its no wonder that King thought if could get away with such vile behaviour time and time again. Maybe a tougher sentance back in the day would have had a different outcome to where he is now.

SB_07 30-10-2009 20:31
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North London derby tomorrow. I predict 3 - 2 to the Arsenal \o/

Damien 30-10-2009 21:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34900736)
North London derby tomorrow. I predict 3 - 2 to the Arsenal \o/
We're teach that cocky upstart Keane his place. Fancy saying Spurs and Arsenal are matched on teams! No. They are not. Spurs are doing much better than previous years, and yes have a strong team, Spurs do not a better team that Arsenal though.

Maybe Keane should concentrate on scoring for his team than worrying about others. :rolleyes:

Anyway.

COME ON ARSENAL.

SB_07 31-10-2009 15:41
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3 - 0 will do nicely! Let's hope the other results go our way in a bit.

Damien 31-10-2009 15:42
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Come on! :d:d:d

superbiatch 31-10-2009 15:49
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901107)
Come on! :d:d:d
Nice 1, good result for you :D

Not feeling so good about us with injuries, but we'll see ;)

SB_07 31-10-2009 17:42
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lol Liverpool 2 - 1 down and two men sent off.

LOL make that 3 - 1.

superbiatch 31-10-2009 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34901156)
lol Liverpool 2 - 1 down and two men sent off.
My mystical abilities shine through again :rolleyes: Had a bad feeling about today.... Ah well, at least its only Saturday - I can get drunk and forget it :D

SB_07 31-10-2009 17:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superbiatch (Post 34901159)
My mystical abilities shine through again :rolleyes: Had a bad feeling about today.... Ah well, at least its only Saturday - I can get drunk and forget it :D
Benitez to go?

superbiatch 31-10-2009 17:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34901160)
Benitez to go?
Not sure about that, I'll leave it for others to decide - i'm sure it will be discussed in-depth.

From today though, I'm not happy with taking Torres and Benny off - what was he thinking?! I suppose only he knows.

Shadow Demon UK 31-10-2009 17:54
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It was their cup final last weekend, business as usual for the scousers today :-)

That **** carragher got what he deserved as well :)

Russ 31-10-2009 18:02
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Silence from the scousers this weekend on facebook....no doubt they'll find their voices if Blackburn beat United tonight.

Bulky 31-10-2009 18:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34901170)
Silence from the scousers this weekend on facebook....no doubt they'll find their voices if Blackburn beat United tonight.
oh .... they didn't lose again did they ..... after all the 'our titles back on track now' i had to put up with last week , showing their true class yet again.

Damien 31-10-2009 18:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SB_07 (Post 34901160)
Benitez to go?
Still too early. Liverpool would also need to decide who would replace him? At the moment there is no obvious answer and, having recently signed a new contract, getting rid of him would be far too expensive. He is a good manager and it would be nuts to fire him because of this. Did Arsenal fire Wenger after our poor start? The title is a lost cause for Liverpool now, it must be, but they still look good to maintain the top 4.

What is more important is that they get into the next round of the Champions League. Lyon away is a much more important game and if they lose that then I would say that Benitez might face calls for him to go. (Still wouldn't be right though)

Russ 31-10-2009 18:54
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901185)
Still too early. Liverpool would also need to decide who would replace him?
The only vaguely logical replacement would be Mourinho - but the scousers can keep their hands off, he's ours for when SAF retires :D

Damien 31-10-2009 19:18
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34901188)
The only vaguely logical replacement would be Mourinho - but the scousers can keep their hands off, he's ours for when SAF retires :D
LOL. If Liverpool do not get into the next stage of the Champions League Mourinho would have to come in and sell players, not buy. Don't think he would like that :D.

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 19:47
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Quote:
no doubt they'll find their voices if Blackburn beat United tonight.
Well Blackburn will have to get out of their half first, we look a bit flat again though, short of a spark. If we could clone Valencia and stick him on the left...........

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Get Nani off, get Owen on and let Rooney run the left wing, this is terrible.

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Thank God for that, another mint finish from Berbatov.

Russ 31-10-2009 19:49
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Donkey scores!!! Donkey scores!!!

Apparently he was bending down to do up his laces when the ball deflect in off him!

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 19:54
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Chipped it up, span 180, Scissor kick. Nani off, Obertan on. This lad could deffo end Nani at UTD. Looks to have way more about him. Strange looking though.

superbiatch 31-10-2009 20:05
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901185)
Still too early. Liverpool would also need to decide who would replace him? At the moment there is no obvious answer and, having recently signed a new contract, getting rid of him would be far too expensive.
You're right, it would cost £18 million to buy him out of his contract I heard a few days back on LFCTV

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 20:33
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Liverpool have the Robson/Keane issue we had, when they didn't play, UTD didn't play. Gerrard is so important to Liverpool it is insane, never seen anything like it. They just don't have a Midfield when he is missing. And like I said before, Rafa spending is obscene for the ammount of decent players he has ended up with, aside from Torres I wouldn't have any of his signings at OT. Maybe Mascherano if we decided to play that way.

Sooner Benitez goes, sooner we can put in an offer they can't refuse for Torres.

Shadow Demon UK 31-10-2009 20:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901185)
Still too early. Liverpool would also need to decide who would replace him? At the moment there is no obvious answer and, having recently signed a new contract, getting rid of him would be far too expensive. He is a good manager and it would be nuts to fire him because of this. Did Arsenal fire Wenger after our poor start? The title is a lost cause for Liverpool now, it must be, but they still look good to maintain the top 4.

What is more important is that they get into the next round of the Champions League. Lyon away is a much more important game and if they lose that then I would say that Benitez might face calls for him to go. (Still wouldn't be right though)
I doubt they will sack him, possibly if they fail to qualify for the Champions league he will go. I could actually see him walking though, if Pellegrini get's the sack anytime soon (which is becoming more and more likely, escpecially after losing 4-0 to a 3rd division side) there's rumours they will be after Benitez, i think he will seriously consider it and blame the Americans as the reason he leaves rather than poor performances.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34901188)
The only vaguely logical replacement would be Mourinho - but the scousers can keep their hands off, he's ours for when SAF retires :D
Dear god i hope not.

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 20:45
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Dear god i hope not.
Really? Do you not think he is the only bloke that can cope with Man Utd? He has my vote. Image how hated will we be when he is on MOTD giving his "Breath Of Fresh Air" interviews everyone seemed to like. I think he is the only one that can replace Ferguson.

Damien 31-10-2009 20:56
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Is it me or is Sky's Sunday Supplement a rubbish program with rubbish commentators? Sorry to go off on a tangent but the quality of their so-called analysis is always awful, these tend to be high level tabloid people who spout one-off rubbish that is often incorrect. One of them suggested we should be nicer to Fergie because he made players like Owen :s.

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 21:17
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we should be nicer to Fergie because he made players like Owen
I have said all I need to say about Sky Sport Footy Coverage. The average subscriber likely as not thinks Owen is a UTD youth creation. Another bottle of Spanish Lager Clink Clink.

Damien 31-10-2009 21:32
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Sorry it was Rooney not Owen. Obviously. My complaint was that this was in answer to the issue of Fergie slamming the ref as being unfit. I had the feeling that due to these 'journalists' having to maintain close relationships with Fergie they were reluctant to criticise him too much.

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 21:46
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I had the feeling that due to these 'journalists' having to maintain close relationships with Fergie they were reluctant to criticise him too much.
He has a habit of refusing to talk to certain people, should the criticism get too much (See MOTD) and we sell papers, unfortunately. Owen/Rooney, same applies. Rooney was already a class act at Everton, he would have made it anywhere, not saying Ferguson had no influence on him, he has to have had, but he didn't make him.

dev 31-10-2009 21:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kingbuxton (Post 34901235)
Really? Do you not think he is the only bloke that can cope with Man Utd? He has my vote. Image how hated will we be when he is on MOTD giving his "Breath Of Fresh Air" interviews everyone seemed to like. I think he is the only one that can replace Ferguson.
Although he'd be a good manager, it'd feel weird him being at OT (granted it'd feel odd not to have Fergie) and I'd have a feeling he wouldn't stay for more than a few years and we'll become a manager rotating club.

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 21:56
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Fergie slamming the ref as being unfit
He was out of order with that. It was an ECL hangover and Sunderland just had more energy. Had he spent some cash and bolstered the squad a bit, might not have happened.

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Although he'd be a good manager, it'd feel weird him being at OT
It's going to be odd when he leaves. What I like about JM is that he is in control of things, and if he isn't he says so. Chelsea had an agenda and the Chairman got involved more than he should (Shevchenko in/JM out don't seem so good now does it) at UTD he will get more freedom. He garners respect, like Ferguson and he can handle a BIG dressing room. I think he is made for us.

Bulky 31-10-2009 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901240)
Is it me or is Sky's Sunday Supplement a rubbish program with rubbish commentators? Sorry to go off on a tangent but the quality of their so-called analysis is always awful, these tend to be high level tabloid people who spout one-off rubbish that is often incorrect. One of them suggested we should be nicer to Fergie because he made players like Owen :s.
its good because its controversial , and if you read a paper in the morning then these are the people that write them (well the sports sections anyway) , the media have always 'spout one-off rubbish that is often incorrect' thats what makes it interesting and a topic to talk about ;)

kingbuxton 31-10-2009 23:44
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the media have always 'spout one-off rubbish that is often incorrect' thats what makes it interesting and a topic to talk about
It's the controversy that makes Footy what it is. It's my overwhelming NO against TV replays for Refs, it will take the soul out of coming in here and ripping Pool fans for loosing to Fulham. I took some serious crap last Monday, oh my how the tables are turned this Monday.

Who wants the Ref chalking off an Off-Side goal that he gave? Like Blackburn, that goal was onside, it was a terrible decision, all Blackburn fans will say it and will get slated by UTD fans, and that is the fun in it.

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Carragher was Red, last man. The first one was a nothing challenge.

SB_07 31-10-2009 23:57
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Very slick 4th goal by Chelsea:disturbd:

lol so Harry Redknapp doesn't think Fab's goal was good? Bitter much.

kingbuxton 01-11-2009 00:57
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Quote:
lol so Harry Redknapp doesn't think Fab's goal was good?
Good player, new Paul Scholes?

yesman 01-11-2009 01:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901240)
Is it me or is Sky's Sunday Supplement a rubbish program with rubbish commentators? Sorry to go off on a tangent but the quality of their so-called analysis is always awful, these tend to be lower level tabloid people who spout one-off rubbish that is often incorrect. One of them suggested we should be nicer to Fergie because he made players like Owen :s.
Apologies Damien, but I had to correct your post ;)

Turkey Machine 01-11-2009 01:49
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Russ, anybody'd think you were surprised that Berbatov actually scored, never mind made it look half-decent! :D

Chelsea's 4th goal was a beautiful piece of football though, absolutely sick to watch.

A record 8 red cards today in the Premiership. Refs in this division will have a bit to answer for, there were 4 genuine and 4 very iffy decisions made.

Russ 01-11-2009 11:18
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Rafa's annual "I'm losing it" rant: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news...cle207531.html

If I remember correctly this is now the part of the season where they drop 10 points.

kingbuxton 01-11-2009 14:49
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Tell that to Liverpool fans IF we win our 19th title.

Damien 02-11-2009 10:37
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Can someone run down the possibilities for Liverpool being able to quality if they do not get all 3 points at Lyon?

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...chester-united

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Originally Posted by The Guardian
Manchester United are to write an open letter to their fans in which Sir Alex Ferguson will appeal for an end to the chants aimed at Arsène Wenger whenever Arsenal visit Old Trafford. Wenger is routinely subjected to a chorus of "sit down you paedophile" and the Premier League champions are so embarrassed by the nature of the songs that Ferguson has agreed to back his old adversary.
Good for Ferguson :tu: (and United)

Russ 02-11-2009 10:44
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Paedophile? Never heard that one. I'd heard the story about him and Ray Parlour but nothing on the level of what's being suggested there.

Damien 02-11-2009 10:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34901892)
Paedophile? Never heard that one. I'd heard the story about him and Ray Parlour but nothing on the level of what's being suggested there.
Because he has young teams I guess? It is a chant they have though. Especially at Spurs and United.

Russ 02-11-2009 10:54
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901895)
Because he has young teams I guess?
Could be, plus the fact there's a pretty healthy rumour going around that he drives on the opposite side of the road. That together with youngsters would make some knuckle-draggers come up with the 'paedo' angle I guess.

Damien 02-11-2009 10:58
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 34901896)
Could be, plus the fact there's a pretty healthy rumour going around that he drives on the opposite side of the road. That together with youngsters would make some knuckle-draggers come up with the 'paedo' angle I guess.
I missed the 'French' joke there somewhere :confused::p:

punky 02-11-2009 11:14
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901895)
Because he has young teams I guess? It is a chant they have though. Especially at Spurs and United.
That's the reason as far as I know.

Also we have a similar chant but more catchy.

Shadow Demon UK 02-11-2009 14:20
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Originally Posted by punky (Post 34901906)
That's the reason as far as I know.

Also we have a similar chant but more catchy.

The best....er i mean worst one is about Madeleine Mccan.


When i went to a united v arsenal match a few seasons ago there were a few chants directed at him, which are similar to the one in the article. I don't know if bringing attention to them is going to stop it though.

Damien 02-11-2009 14:47
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It should be stopped. As people mentioned the Munich disaster is a awful thing to chant about and I would be ashamed if the supporters around me at a game started doing so. Same with the hillsborough disaster.

Obviously the Arsenal one isn't real but still not a nice thing to chant about.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Liverpool.html

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Originally Posted by Telegraph
Ronnie Whelan, who won six league titles with Liverpool, has accused Ben*tez of giving up on the championship. Whelan claimed the Spaniard is concentrating only on the Champions League to further his career.



”It’s all gone wrong with the manager. He’s shown exactly where his priorities lie,” said Whelan, speaking on RTE television. “He wants to be the man who wins the European Cup so he can get a job anywhere in Europe. But, for me, his days have got to be numbered at Liverpool.”
What? Pretty moronic thing to say. Especially considering he has actually already won the Champions League. Moron.

punky 02-11-2009 14:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901995)
It should be stopped. As people mentioned the Munich disaster is a awful thing to chant about and I would be ashamed if the supporters around me at a game started doing so. Same with the hillsborough disaster.

Obviously the Arsenal one isn't real but still not a nice thing to chant about.
I'll admit that its neither big nor clever and we're the first ones to complain when the Jewish chants come out.

The community seems to be split into several groups.

1. You get the hardcore contingent who will say/do anything and don't care what people people think. (Chants: Hissing at Spurs fans, anything with the c-word).

2. You get the middle contingent who aren't bad people but don't want football becoming, for the want of a better term, 'politically correct'. (Chants: Arsene Wenger/referee/Ji-Sung Park etc.)

3. You get the last group who just want a wholesome family environment to bring their kids.

Most if not all football teams will have a mix of the 3. Its difficult doing anything about it because the first group will only stopped when they've been banned (and that's not easy). The middle group is the vast majority of supporters and really what keeps clubs going. If you outlawed any colourful chanting (like #2) then you wouldn't fill stadiums.

Shadow Demon UK 02-11-2009 16:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34901995)
It should be stopped. As people mentioned the Munich disaster is a awful thing to chant about and I would be ashamed if the supporters around me at a game started doing so. Same with the hillsborough disaster.

Obviously the Arsenal one isn't real but still not a nice thing to chant about.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...Liverpool.html



What? Pretty moronic thing to say. Especially considering he has actually already won the Champions League. Moron.

I agree it should be stopped, but there's a huge difference between singing about people dieing (Munich, Hillsbrough) and singing about someone being a peado.


With the Benitez thing, i was reading this (link) article and thought this comment from one of the readers was excellent


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It's not Rafa's fault he's bought good players and turned them into average players.

It's not Rafa's fault he's bought poor players and given them a first team place.

It's not Rafa's fault he's bought very good players and then sold them without sourcing a replacement.

It's not Rafa's fault that absolutely no young player 'who showed promise' has been nurtured and developed into a solid and reliable first teamer, never mind a superstar.

It's not Rafa's fault the squad he developed is unbalanced, forward-light, lacking in depth and is too Spanish-orientated. Thus when he does go, most of those Spaniards will soon leave, just as Houllier's French biased squad was dismantled soon after he departed.

That's no way to build a squad for the long term, but hey, that's not Raffa's fault, right?

It's not Rafa's fault he discarded the troublesome Crouch, just when he needed a decent forward.

It's not Rafa's fault he ruined Robbie Keane.

It's not Rafa's fault he couldn't see the potential of Craig Bellamy.

Or that he sold Risse because of one error.

It's not Rafa's fault he missed a transfer open goal, with Michael Owen available for precisely nought pounds, again just when LFC were desperate for established forward support to Torres.

It's not Rafa's fault his squad has so few British (never mind Liverpudlian) players, who would naturally have a much greater affinity to LFC than any imported player.

It's not Rafa's fault that last season he settled for draws when United and Chelsea went for the win at all costs.
Wins at home and away to Stoke City(!!) would have finally won the league.

It's not Rafa's fault he continues to substitute the one creative player he has - Benayoun, just when they need a spark of inspiration to seal a win.

It's not Rafa's fault he's spent (gross) £212m in his 5 years at LFC - more than enough to construct a squad capable of winning the title, but not got near to winning it.

It's not Rafa's fault, I tell you!
:)

Russ 02-11-2009 17:03
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 34902088)
With the Benitez thing, i was reading this (link) article and thought this comment from one of the readers was excellent
Roffle :rofl:

He does have a cool goatee though :)

TheDaddy 02-11-2009 17:06
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Rooney Jr arrives

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6899689.ece

Named him Kai, well it's better than Wayne I guess and well done them for not selling pics of the little lad, I mangaed to find one though....

sherer 02-11-2009 17:08
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
have been at the Man U v Liverpool and City games I do wonder if some fans even bother watching the game. Some spend so much time shouting at the other fans with a single voice who are 90 yards away they don't even know what is happening on the pitch.

Damien 02-11-2009 17:10
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Also Rafa did come close to winning it...

arcamalpha2004 03-11-2009 10:34
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34902103)
Rooney Jr arrives

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6899689.ece

Named him Kai, well it's better than Wayne I guess and well done them for not selling pics of the little lad, I mangaed to find one though....


This is one that got away from the press, Berbatov has even managed to get in on the family shot: http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/200...hrek/shrek.jpg

When asked about the choice of name for baby roon, it was disclosed that the family have a Kia.
When it was pointed out that Kia is not Kai Colleen said " That's the point, we wanted a unique name for our baby "

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34902104)
have been at the Man U v Liverpool and City games I do wonder if some fans even bother watching the game. Some spend so much time shouting at the other fans with a single voice who are 90 yards away they don't even know what is happening on the pitch.

Aye, and some who should know better are spitting their dummy out at the fourth official ;)

kingbuxton 03-11-2009 20:58
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
They used to chant the Paedo thing years back, before he had a young team, Henry, Pires n all.

They printed mugshots of a bunch of them in a paper, I heard he looked like one of them? I dunno, that's what the guy that used to sit behind me at OT said.

Damien 03-11-2009 21:20
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingbuxton (Post 34902978)
They used to chant the Paedo thing years back, before he had a young team, Henry, Pires n all.

They printed mugshots of a bunch of them in a paper, I heard he looked like one of them? I dunno, that's what the guy that used to sit behind me at OT said.
I dunno. The preferring younger players makes sense and although his squad has got younger in recent years he has always had this preference for younger players coming though. I don't know where it actually started but it's not a very nice chant to be honest.

SB_07 03-11-2009 21:48
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Man Utd having a shocker right now...

kingbuxton 03-11-2009 21:51
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
If this isn't showing the weakness of the squad I dunno what will. Ferguson, regardless of what he convinces himself of, isn't in a position to drop players.

Dear Oh Dear, we get all the decisions at OT do we? Shocking. ECL refs are pants.

Damien 03-11-2009 22:17
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I don't understand the Liverpool are out of the Champions League stuff if they lose to Lyon.

If they lose and Fiorentina win this will be the group:

Lyon - 12 points
Fiorentina - 9 points
Liverpool - 3 points
Debrecen - 0

Liverpool will then play Fiorentina at home. If they win the difference will be 3 points. Meaning in the last game Liverpool need to win against Debrecen and Lyon would need to beat Fiorentina. Then it would be goal difference only.

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Opps. Liverpool would need to beat Fiorentina by two clear goals, or 3 if Fiorentina get an away goal.

kingbuxton 03-11-2009 22:35
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Just play your best team available, get some goals and then take them off. Good job we have some serious character in us. Could have won should we have got the Pen we should have had.

You wonder if saving some of your first team players works when they have to come on and bust a gut for half an hour?

Damien 03-11-2009 22:49
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingbuxton (Post 34903049)
Just play your best team available, get some goals and then take them off. Good job we have some serious character in us. Would have should we have got the Pen we should have had.

You wonder if saving some of your first team players works when they have to come on and bust a gut for half an hour?
I would be more worried how this team has forced United to do a come back. Like Arsenal were against Leige.

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Some fun results around Europe tonight. Bordeaux beating Bayern Munich 2 - 0 away is a massive result leaving Munich with a serious danger of not qualifying for the next stage. Chelsea drew but, I think, go into the next round.

AC Milan drew with Real Madrid and in the other game in the group Marseille won 6 -1 against Zurich. That group is still kinda opening leaving Milan or Madrid at risk of an early exit.

Saaf_laandon_mo 04-11-2009 10:19
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34903028)
I don't understand the Liverpool are out of the Champions League stuff if they lose to Lyon.

If they lose and Fiorentina win this will be the group:

Lyon - 12 points
Fiorentina - 9 points
Liverpool - 3 points
Debrecen - 0

Liverpool will then play Fiorentina at home. If they win the difference will be 3 points. Meaning in the last game Liverpool need to win against Debrecen and Lyon would need to beat Fiorentina. Then it would be goal difference only.

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Opps. Liverpool would need to beat Fiorentina by two clear goals, or 3 if Fiorentina get an away goal.
If it panned out as you say damien, whats the odds on Lyon & Fiorentina playing out a draw? Meaning they are both through.

Damien 04-11-2009 10:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34903265)
If it panned out as you say damien, whats the odds on Lyon & Fiorentina playing out a draw? Meaning they are both through.
If Lyon win tonight, they will go though anyway. So they may not want to play for a Draw.

Saaf_laandon_mo 04-11-2009 10:24
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34903268)
If Lyon win tonight, they will go though anyway. So they may not want to play for a Draw.
So that a potentially bigger threat than Fiorentina is out of the tournament.

SB_07 04-11-2009 19:37
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Quote:
Newcastle have confirmed their stadium will be renamed sportsdirect.com @ St James' Park with immediate effect.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/041120...ames-park.html

:LOL:

Damien 04-11-2009 21:46
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I won't be calling it that.

Looking good Liverpool.

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Rangers fans are up to their old tricks it seems. Pathetic.

Niles Crane 04-11-2009 21:46
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Some Rangers fans seem to be doing their club's wonderful reputation a world of good by rioting in the stands.

SB_07 04-11-2009 21:54
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Fabregassssss.

Damien 04-11-2009 21:59
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Wonderful Finish

SB_07 04-11-2009 22:13
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
We're cruising \o/

Damien 04-11-2009 22:59
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WOW! Liverpool almost, almost, had it. Lyon with a last minute goal again. Ouch!

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Liverpool are now 5 points behind 2nd place. They need to win both games. If Fiorentina win against Lyon then they are out.

Saaf_laandon_mo 04-11-2009 23:00
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Don't you love those last minute goals! Lol

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34903854)
WOW! Liverpool almost, almost, had it. Lyon with a last minute goal again. Ouch!

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Liverpool are now 5 points behind 2nd place. They need to win both games. If Fiorentina win against Lyon then they are out.
If Lyon play like they did today they and Fiorentina will be going through no matter what Liverpool do.

Damien 04-11-2009 23:01
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
If Fiorentina draw against Lyon. Then Liverpool need to win by 3 clear goals or 4 if Fiorentina score 1. In other words they need to make sure that their the overall result between the two games they played with Fiorentina put them ahead including taking the away goal rule into account.

Saaf_laandon_mo 04-11-2009 23:06
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Fiorentina will beat Lyon if Lyon are as poor as they were today. They only looked threatening in the last 15 minutes of the match.

Damien 04-11-2009 23:14
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It is at Fiorentina as well. Trouble a-brewing for Liverpool. Given just how much debt they are in could they afford to drop out of Champion's League already! If they don't make the top 4 this season then the ramifications might be so dire as too keep them out of it for a good number of seasons.

punky 04-11-2009 23:35
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34903896)
It is at Fiorentina as well. Trouble a-brewing for Liverpool. Given just how much debt they are in could they afford to drop out of Champion's League already! If they don't make the top 4 this season then the ramifications might be so dire as too keep them out of it for a good number of seasons.
Apparently I heard that dropping out of the ECL would cost them around £135m. Sounds a lot, but that's what I heard.

And if they do even worse and don't qualify for Europa, then that's another ~£30m

Matty_ 05-11-2009 00:08
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
There`s a nice restaurant near us looking for waitors, they do a mean tapas :p:

Kymmy 06-11-2009 12:49
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ea/8319573.stm

Quote:
Chelsea's transfer ban has been temporarily suspended by the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) pending a final decision on the matter.

TheDaddy 06-11-2009 12:53
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Hmm if they were smart they'd recall all their loan players now

Russ 07-11-2009 14:15
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Latest score from the Liberty, Swansea 2 Cardiff nil :)

Turkey Machine 07-11-2009 14:59
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2-2 Russ. ;)

Russ 07-11-2009 16:52
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Final score 3-2 :)

TheDaddy 07-11-2009 18:41
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
West Ham striker Dean Ashton is set to call time on his injury-wrecked career and lodge a multi-million pound insurance claim against the Football Association after being injured on England duty.
Full story: Daily Mail

What a pity, could have been up there with the likes of Shearer, mind you never trust the Mail when it comes to The Hammers

Niles Crane 07-11-2009 20:44
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34905726)
West Ham striker Dean Ashton is set to call time on his injury-wrecked career and lodge a multi-million pound insurance claim against the Football Association after being injured on England duty.
Full story: Daily Mail

What a pity, could have been up there with the likes of Shearer, mind you never trust the Mail.
Corrected.

5 draws in a row for Man City now.

DocDutch 07-11-2009 20:49
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
wolves managed to find the net 3 times not bad for them

Shadow Demon UK 07-11-2009 20:51
Re: Football : Season 2009/2010
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Niles Crane (Post 34905763)
Corrected.

5 draws in a row for Man City now.

If that was a top 4 team they would be in a crisis with the managers job under pressure. City aren't a top 4 team.


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