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Who's Russ going to support if Swansea manage to see off Fulham.:D

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Easy - depends where the game is played. If OT then I'll be red.

But if it's at the Liberty Stadium, I will want to see Swansea HUMILIATE United. I will want Ronaldo sent off for diving, I'll want Rooney sent off for being ugly, I will be happy with nothing less than a 3-nil result for the Swans.

It will be the ONLY time I will be as anti-United as any Scouser or Gooner :D

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Seeing as the Swans came out of the hat first I think it will be at Craven Cottage.:p::D

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Great to see Eduardo back....and with two goals!

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Hi Russb, I think the game will depend on how much money Sir Alex pays the referee.

We all saw the aggros, Sir Alex gave the 4th offical for disallowing the goal, by Ronaldo, l will be honest I HATE MAN UTD, We will need FOUR refs, video cameras, for Ronaldo's dives, so that can be a Xmas seller, cameras for the foul mouth Rooney, so that the FA can lip read what he calls the ref - and he will still get away with.

I heard they had a special pad at the Utd training ground, so that the players could practice how to dive. Good luck to Swansea:)

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Really? That is a shock!


Is that the same one Derby use for Rob Hulse?

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Arthur, can you post your rants more often please, they have me in stiches every time :)

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Further to my comment on Man. Utd, They have this tendency that they can get away with everything, Did you see the picture of, cry baby Ronaldo, spitting at Savage, which is a Card job, nothing will happen, BUT anyone else, they will have the book thrown at them. The FA is petrified of Fergie.

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Is that a fact? ;)

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Did anyone see the magnificent recovery of Spurs Keeper Gomez, after his so called smack in the face, in the EUFA cup tie tonight, He made two mistakes, he should have had both goals covered, but as usual, he flopped, terrible performance, l don't know what Harry was thinking of, If he is trying to keep Spurs in top flight, he has to do it in all comps, He has already said, HIS priority is Premership survival, he forgets, Spurs players get paid a lot of money to perform in front of the great fans they have, they had better start performing, or in win Nothing this season plus relegation, and l am a Spurs fan.

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Arthur, you, use, far, too, many, commas, in, one, sentence.

Sorry, rant over.

I personally think United will will the league this season, they have been too good. Arthur is right in saying United get away with a hell of a lot more on the field than other clubs do. Hell, even off the field...Sir Alex can call the referees and the head ref what he wants and nothing is done about it. Wenger has a go at one referee, and he gets fined.

Gomez, he's a hell of a goal keeper. Who knows how many mistakes he's made, I'm sure if anyone was once keeping a count, it's been lost!

I'm a Liverpool fan, but I don't we're good enough at the moment to get near to United.

If Arsenal don't get any inhuries for next season, I'd like to see what they can do. ;)

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Remind me, who is the only manager this season to get a touchline ban?

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That doesn't compensate for the amount he gets away with.

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Hi Chill, I think if the FA cracked down on Sir Alex, he would do the usual, do a rant Soho Square would shake, Utd would pull out of the FA cup, then the Premier League would have to get a new ' sub board' that doesn't go over 5 minutes added time, get Rooney a new dummy, and Ronaldo a new diving board,.

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Like how Benitez got away with all the false claims he made against Ferguson in his rant that's ****ed your season up?? I know people like to believe that Ferguson is the only manager that talks about referee's and get's away with things but it happens with all managers, people take more notice when they are actually successful though ;)

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I don't think Ferguson is the only manager who rants.

He just does it a hell of a lot more than other managers. ;)

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He's got every right to when he gets unfairly accused of preferential treatment.

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But all Benitez said were "facts", so it's ok for him to do it...

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Cheating Manu Utd 2, Blackburn I, where did the five minutes come from and Ronaldo should have been sent off, He gets booked for diving, and then again he dives, and gets the goal from the free kick, Howard Webb needs to to back to ref school.

I think the Carling Cup should handed to cheating Man Utd now, if they play and get away with things, as in todays game, I think Tottenham should stay at home, they won't win, if the ref allows United to get away with it.

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From your rant i take it you didn't watch the match?

It was 4 minutes injury time not 5, of which none were needed for the so called cheating team to win. If we were cheating as you suggest, it would have been no injury time.

Ronaldo didn't dive for the free kick and you can't say he *should* have been sent off. If he got booked earlier he wouldn't dive ;)

Now i'm sure you'll tell me what was wrong with Evans' goal won't you? After all, we can't foul anyone can we? :confused:

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Maybe a mod should change the title of the thread to "The i hate Man United thread" or "Arthurs pointless rants thread" :rolleyes:

If you think Ronaldo dived to get the free kick that he scored from then i would advise you get your eyes tested, for one it was the most obvious foul ever and two it was Evra who got fouled not Ronaldo, but that doesn't matter to you does it. Ronaldo got booked for diving earlier in the game and rightly so, so i cannot see what your moaning about. 5 minutes?? I have absoloutley no idea what that means??? There was 4 minutes of added on time at the end of the match if thats what your talking about? I would have much rather had seen 1 minute come up on the board, i have no idea how that much added time going up makes United "cheat's". I like the fact you have overlooked that United had a perfectly legitimate goal ruled out though...

You have an obsession with United arthur, you need to see someone about it.

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2-1? How did five mins of play (was 4m 40s - should have been 4 and I have no idea where that came from) benefit us? Come on.

Webb gives a corner, should have been a goal kick/free-kick, we score and he disallows it.

He books Ronaldo for diving (Based on Setanta, he is the only player that has ever done it, it comes with the territory if you are Brazillian) doesn't book Pedersen for diving.

Three games from Webb, we lost two and then that. Bet he had his Liverpool shirt on the second he got into the dressing room.

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I would buy you a beer if I could.

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or Portugese. ;)

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Can't disagree with that, no one ever gets sent of for getting 2 yellows :rolleyes:

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You're assuming he would have dived if he was on a yellow card, which i doubt he would...

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and you're giving the average footballer far to much credit to assume he/they wouldn't.

Imo we should clamp down on the dissent and cheating that is rife in the game, retrospective 5 match bans will nip all that crap in the bud once and for all.

Oh and add spitting to that list to grrrrr

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Touche :D

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Was watching the teams coming out the dressing room at Villa, Ashley Young spat on the floor then, it's polished laminate type flooring, imagine that sitting there, could have waited.

I agree on diving. They should review games and award Yellows, what annoys me is that a player like Ronaldo gets so much grief for it. It's a rod he has made for his own back, and to be fair to him he stopped doing it, still didn't get the benefit, and started doing it again. But there has been, and is worse, than him. Gerrard is as bad and Joe Cole is worse, nobody thinks it's a big deal. And if they do, they certainly don't say it in public.

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I get really angry, when you watch a game of football, no matter who plays, but l believe EVERY game should be fair from both sides of the park, My gripe on Ronaldo is, that he has a way of conning the ref, and when he gets caught, he doesn't like it.

Why is it, everytime, someone has a dig at United, people start crying foul, United will win the league anyway, my motto is ' each game has to be fairly played '.

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Problem is Arthur, you seem to ignore it (intentionally or otherwise) when other players dive and get away with it.

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No offence, but because people like you (not having a go at you as a personal attack) come on and say, Cheats, refs stick up for us, five mins of extra time.......you know what I mean. And we put up with that from supporters of every club in this country, no other team takes the flack we take. Are we there to be shot at? I dunno, but that is the reason.

You see, Ronaldo cheats, he does, I know it, he knows it and Ferguson knows it. But so does everyone else. Can I ask who you support?

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But Webb just chalked of a legit goal because he gave a corner by mistake (should have been a freekick and Yellow to Pederson imo, played the man, not the ball) is that fair?

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And the thing is Webb is a Pool fan, I think that stinks. I think it is odd that each time he refs a UTD game it is controversy. Both games we have lost this season have been with him in charge. He has sent two UTD players off. As pro as you can be, if you are a Pool supporter, you hate UTD, how can he possibly do a game with us with 100% unbias? I don't think you can. His record with us suggests I am right.

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United didn't cheat. They, like most other clubs, do not engage in the constant cheating that people claim they do. All clubs are chancres, and want a penalty when they don't deserve one. It's stupid to have such dislike of a football club!

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What l think the MAJOR problem is football as a whole, is that we have to have ref's that are totally correct in decision making, and sadly that is not the case, We have to have a ref, that doesn't live within a certain distance of bboth the teams, or where the League control body has to know WHAT club they support, so there is no bias.

I believe in Scotland this happens, to stop them getting aggro from supporters on and off the field.

You only have to look at the Clattenburg incident, involving Utd and Spurs several years ago, where the ball was clearly over by a foot, and it wasn't seen by the officals, or thats what they claimed, officials should have another official with a screen, to overlook and make decision on the spot, and overule in seconds.

The perfect example, was l dare l say it, the Ronaldo goal, which was a GOAL, but disallowed two minutes later - see, l do agree about Ron' sometimes.

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For goodness sake man, give it a rest, everyone knows that ball never crossed the line.
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I don't think we do. We need refs that give what they can, and for fans/TV people/people like you not to cry about it and exaggerate things. Watch a cricket match, when the ball is going to clip the stumps, the umpire doesn't give it. No one complains, it's simply too close to give it.

That removes the human element from the sport. The reason they didn't see it was clear on TV. The ref was in the other half, some 50/60 yards away from the goal line. The linesman was a good 40 yards, probably more due to the diagnol of it. He also had a spurs player in his line of sight to the goal, not to mention the keeper. Can't see the ball? Can't say it's gone in. From the distance, I doubt he could have seen the goal line either.

It wasn't a goal, he was offside when Foster threw it out, *and* when Giggs flicked it on. The linesman obviously wasn't paying attention (how can you miss a flick on?) and should have flagged straight away.

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hI AIDOM, I think you need to go to specsavers, the white line, normally goes round the back of goals ha ha;)

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Good post. Something that needs to be realised by certain people. Pederson was a good example, as a counterpoint to the Ronaldo dive.

Now, is this the reason why you have such a bee in your bonnet over Utd, that it makes you blinkered over what everyone else does?

Now, before anyone has a moan, I do not agree with cheating, I was annoyed as anyone with a certain Utd player today, but what does annoy me is that people think that it is only Utd who do this. It is not. <Turn Benitez mode off> FACT <Turn Benitez mode on>

You are not going to stop cheating by picking on just one club.

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NO. You can't bring any tech into Football, and I will never agree with it. Why? Because I wan't to win/loose a game with a Penalty that wasn't and then go see my mates or go to work and dish out/receive grief for it. That IS the heart of football, and as much as the Sponsors/Sky Sports and their target audience (Never kicked a ball as a kid, Sunday BBQ, bottled Lager, 70" HDTV, BMW driving £30,000 a year crowd) want to wish it isn't, it is. TV replay will kill Football, FACT, it isn't up for discussion, it is FACT. I can just see Fergie and Wenger with the fourth official arguing a borderline Off-Side that resulted in a goal.

That Ronny goal the other night, great example, Giggs flick regardless. When they did a line across the pitch he was level, but level bordering on Off-Side. The law says level is onside and favour the attacker (with clear daylight, there wasn't/was depending who you support) lets see two managers with a TV monitor arguing the toss for 20mins over it, then the players dive in, then they stick it on the big screen and the fans join in, then they have it on TV and you can text and join in, normal rates apply.......nah, it will all go to Hell.

It will start with a dubious decision every now and again, it will end with every single decision being contested, again, FACT, that IS what will happen. Every Off-Side, every foul, every Penalty and every incident. The game will end up 90+20mins and it will cease to exist as the sport we love. Touchline replay, NO, leave it alone. Oh and then wait till the WC gets it and South American managers/players get at it. The game would never get going.

Arthurgray50@blu, who do you support? This is an impossible argument if I don't know who you follow. If it is Chelsea/Liverpool then I can name one from each that make Ronaldo look silly as far as diving goes. If it is Arsenal, well, you will open a can of worms.

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It's Spurs ;)

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You asked WHY UTD fans are always on the defence when anyone questions them. I remember that game, from the publicity it garnered you would think it was the first and only goal to be chalked off when it was legit, they cocked up, nobody was in a position to see if it went in, end of. But Noooooooo, the media kick off about it, the fans kick off about it, that stuff happens all the time, but you never hear about it.

Remember Sheff Wed? Ref gets injured. Most games (see today) have four mins of extra-time (unless a Liverpool fan is Ref, then it is four for no reason play nearly five) add several mins when a Ref has to go off and you are into 10 min extra time, we win 2-1, win the Prem, we are cheats, and refs always play extra time to allow us to win, even when we are 2-1 up, as today, which was to Blackburns advantage not ours, which was your original post.

I hate teams, I hate Liverpool/City (you know why) Chelsea/Arsenal for different reasons, but I don't spend all day going on about it when they win. Arsenal/Chelsea winning the Prem didn't ruin my Summer, unlike UTD winning it, which I suspect made a grey Summer that bit darker for some fans.

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Spurs, for Gods sake, Spurs are my second team, I would take Spurs in second over any of them.

Cheating - Diving - JurgenK. Do we need to go further? The guy was refining the art of conning Refs and officials before Ronaldo ever kicked a ball. Remember the WC final v Argentina, he was on the floor rolling around more than he ran.

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I totally agree, even if we still have television replays there's still decisions that can go either way, all that will happen is it will add stupid amounts of time to matches. It will end up with fans saying referees favour certain teams because they gave them a 50/50 decision, it will be ludicrous. A good example is todays match, Pederson goes down in the box because Rafael touches his shoulder, i didn't think it was a penalty, the commentator i was listening to didn't think it was a penalty, but Linnekar and Shearer were certain it was a penalty, these are decsions that just have to be split second decsions by the referee and linesman otherwise we will be there all night deciding which way to give the decisions. Possibly the only technology i would like to see is to check if the ball has crossed the line, but i reckon if thats allowed other things will be sneaked it and it will end up with all decisions being reviewd which is what we definately don't need.

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That is what will happen, you hit the nail on the head. It will start small, and will end up with, big screen, 3D rotating displays, BBC/ITV and Sky trying to get one over on the other with it's own brand of technology, linked live via cable to pitch side, it's inevitable.

It wasn't a penalty (he went down because he has no Right foot and couldn't shoot) that type of challenge goes on all the time and never results in a free-kick. If someone puts their hand on your shoulder, your legs don't buckle. Not saying it isn't impeding, but then is shadowing the ball out of play, by sticking your backside into a player, not obstruction? And that always goes unchallenged.

I think the point here (reading the same thing on a few sites) is that this was the last big potential slip up for us, we have a tendancy to take that type of game for granted, and Blackburn, under Sam, can be tricky. We won, and it has put a lot of peoples noses out of joint (Setanta and the BEEB for one) and they are looking for excuses. The Ref was terrible, and he should take the blame.

When we play Pool/Arsenal etc we will be up for it, win or loose, it wont be a shock, this was the last of those games we should win but drop points in. Get ready, cos if City beat Pool the morrow, then the media will really let loose come Monday, it will be Tevez to Barca, Ronny to Real, Hargreaves is finished.......blah blah blah.

Mind, there is a Cup Final approaching, so the headlines designed to cause unrest between fans/players will start anyway.

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Hi Mal, Let me make this quite clear, and to all members of this forum, I don't believe in moaning about certain clubs, ie Man United etc.

I get totally ****ed off at accusations at slagging off clubs, Let me put it this way, referee's today are now pussyfooting round players, the players, that are on outrageus wages, that we have to pay for, get away with murder on the pitch, ie, spitting at other players, kicking them when the officals are not looking, diving, or kicking a player under the officals eyes, need l go on. These players would not last five minutes on the pitch in the days of Chopper Harris, Norman Hunter, you even get managers having a go at the ref and officals, and get away with it.

I could go to my local park and see some great football, and THEY have to PAY out of the own pocket, to get on the pitch - am l angry, yes you are damn right, we pay good money, to go to a game, expecting a great game of football, what do you get, a load of overpaid players going out, don't give a damn about us, and get paid.:mad::mad:

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Arthur, how do you think 'Chopper' Harris got his name?

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Coz of his massive tackle :erm:

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Hi Russb, I know how he got his name, and the opposite player, would not have got up and he would have known about it.

Down memory lane - Vinnie Jones, there is a name for you, But then, thats when they played great football, the best player l have ever seen was George Best, he was brilliant.

I saw him at Tottenham once, and l have never seen a goal scored, from such an angle, like the one he scored, there is NO ONE who is better than him, in todays game. (not even a Spurs player);)

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Arthur, you do seem to focus on Utd, just do a search of this thread, which does give the aforementioned impression.

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Scousers 1 - 1 Citeh :D

Another successful mission for agent Hughes, 7 points clear :)

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Actually given City's recent form, a draw at Scouse Central isn't a bad result.

But yes, 7 points is nice :D

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Love it when Rafa Beneathus goes a pink colour during his interview, another draw at home for the dippers :), a result against Inter now would make my week.

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One of lifes greatest pleasures, listening to Liverpool fanboy Alan Green commentating on 5Live when they are playing s***e. :D

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I think it just goes to show how much of an anchor Gerrard is to the club. We played **** in most of the match. Only upped our game after that lucky goal. City were playing better. Either way, the season belongs to United.

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Maybe this thread should be renamed the anti-LFC thread :D

All is fair in love and football though, I'm not best pleased with what we've done so far this season but it could be worse, i could support Chelsea or Arsenal :p:

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I'm really hoping for an Everton resurgence actually.

Will be immensely satisfying to watch Arsenal drop out of the top 5 :D

While we're at it, nice win for the Swans too, we'll be in the premiership next season, you just watch :)

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One anchor in a team of *ankers, Torres & Carragher excepted of course. :D

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flankers? ;)


The one time City get a result against a top side, and it's against those bleeding scousers. Top stuff!

Just gotta hope all the British sides get a good result in Europe this week, especially Man Utd who are a bit the worse for injury at the back after Evans got taken off today. :mad:

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Put it this way, apart from Gerrard, Torrres. Carragher and possibly Alonso on a good day, no other Liverpool players would get into United's second 11.:p:

Jim. :angel:

PS. Arteta is a far better player than Alonso, very sad to see him carried off yesterday.:(

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If you were to have said Benayoun is weak, playing out of position and doesn't do much for us (apart from score a very rare goal) or that Lucas is plain b0llocks then I'd have agreed. I'd also have agreed that Benitez is a stubborn mule who is probably losing the plot.

Incidentally, I've got a lot of time for other teams, Everton being one of them as my whole family are blues (in fact I was brought up as one) and I agree Arteta is a great player, although I'm not too sure about him being better than Xabi.

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Gerrard would walk in to any 1st team, Torres would get in to most teams but Carragher? I don't see it. 5 years ago maybe but not now. I'm not saying he's rubbish but he's not the player he was.

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Should have thought it was obvious, I was comparing one load of overpaid under achievers with another, anyone would know I meant bankers. ;) :D

Jim.

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Oh well, it saves Russ having divided loyalties. :)

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No divided loyalties at all! I'd have been rooting for the home side. But never mind, Swansea will host United next season :D

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Real Madrid 0 - 1 Liverpool. That's a good result imo. I wasn't able to catch the first half, but managed to get the second.

A few United fans I know were on about how Real were going to destroy Liverpool because they've been so good in their league. The Real I saw weren't that good. Lucky header from Bennayoun (sp?) since he's tiny.

Why the hell did he bring Gerrard on, and risk his hamstring?

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Happy with our result, even predicted Benayoun's goal watching him throughout the game. It wasn't so much lucky, he had a hunger and plays so much better in the middle.

Stevie looked rusty but thats to be expected, hope Torres is just being rested for precautionary reasons. Come on the reds!!! Part 2, 10th March, advantage LFC :tu:

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I think Torres was starting to get a little fumed, and he was on a yellow. Gerrard did look rusty, messed up some passes, but like you said, that's to be expected.

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Can't blame him really, he was getting hacked at times. Just shows what a threat he is ;)

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It turns out Torres picked up an ankle injury half way through the first half which I missed. Hope it isn't serious. Can't be that bad, since he played another 40 minutes after that.

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Whilst both United and Liverpool did play well, I was really surprised by just how poor both Inter Milan and Real Madrid were on their own patch.:confused:

Jim.

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Perhaps that's more an indication of the improvement of British teams? The italians would never admit it though.

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Did I hear it correctly, Inter only started the game with one Italian in the team, if so they are copying one or two of the 'big four' in some aspects.:p:

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I thought it was funnier that Liverpool had more Spanish players in their team then Madrid did...

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I have to say I agree! These once feared clubs are now seen as equals and after all we do have the best football league in the world ;)

Good luck to Citeh this evening also :tu: (i've got a little soft spot for them :blush:)

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Apparently there were 19 different nationalities starting in the Inter-United game.

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No idea if that is correct but it the sad truth of the game these days that there is no real link between the local community and clubs any more.

I know the German lower leagues have to field about 8 German players but the EU won't allow such a rule at the elite level

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Except the entire basis of Inter's founding, over 100 years ago, was the idea of having foreign players as opposed to the Italian dominated AC Milan. Hence the name; Internazionale. So it's actually the other way around.

Complaining about foreigners in an Inter side doesn't make much sense.

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Can someone, please explain why clubs disrepect major honours, by playing second string teams.

It was quite honestly pure degrading watching Spurs, play such poor football, gave the ball away too many times, l watched it via PC, and felt ashamed, knowing full well that Harry, wanted us to lose.

All clubs claim, that they play too many games per season, total rubbish, Players get a lot of money, so how many days rest do they need, before a cup tie. The great teams of years ago, didn't play second string sides, and they won trophies, put more heart into it, fans pay a lot of money to see there clubs, win games to win cups, so maybe, fans should ask for the money back, if they go to see, say ie Chelsea play Man Utd, and they put out there second teams.

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FYI on your team, Harry has already said that the premier league was their main focus this season and not the cups, (It will be interesting to see what happens on Sunday).
Harry seems to have his head screwed on, some of the fans don't. ;)

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Got to be better than Spurs first team any day,:p:

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Arthur, wouldn't you rather stay in the premier league than go a couple of rounds further in the UEFA cup and lose as soon as you face a decent team like Milan?

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Has anyone ever typed "MCFC honours list" into google? This is what comes up :D :D

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

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Not to Real he isn't, he hasn't scored against them in 11 games IIRC still with a bit of luck he'll put that right soon enough

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They always have been the most 'cosmopolitan' team in Italy, doesn't shock me in the slightest really

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Basically it boils down to one thing. Money. Football clubs no longer really care about honours it is all about money as they are all really a basis now.

If you win the UEFA Cup you will get about £5m IIRC, i'm sure someone can find a more accurate figure, whereas if you finish one place above the relegation zone you will get £20m. Managers have no choice but to concentrate on the league due to the differences in money, if Harry did anything else he would end up getting the sack, it's the same with the FA Cup too which I think is between 3-5m for the winners

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I suppose so, but time will tell. I didn't think Nando had been around long enough to have participated in many of the games - hopefully he's back for 10th March 2nd leg.

Also, Parry has resigned http://www.skysports.com/story/0,195...980203,00.html

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For any that haven't seen it, feast your eyes on the skills of this 6 year old Algerian boy. :shocked:

VIDEO

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Just put him up against Vinny Jones :D

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OK, now we have proof that MUFC fans are crazy!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7916361.stm

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Well, if you could find a story about a Utd fan turning to the City-side, now that would be crazy ;) :D

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Yeah, we'd have to give him Mancunian citizenship at that point!!!! :D ;)

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Lets hope that tomorrow's Carling Cup is a good game, and to all those Man Utd fans out there, have a great day.

My prediction of the score; Man Utd 1 Spurs 1 HT

FT Man Utd 3 Spurs 4

It would be that score, being a Yid, but l have a feeling that Spurs will bring out that Cup spirit that they are known for.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Harry puts out a weakened Spurs squad, since he's focusing on the league rather than trophies.

I don't expect Spurs to win, United have been on excellent form, and are hard to beat, even by Europe's best.

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If it was the FA Cup then Spurs would have exactly the same chance as United. But the League Cup....can't see Spurs pulling that one off.

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Why do you think that? I think United would have the same chance if not more so as they would be more likely to be motivated.

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There's something very different about an FA Cup game. It's the tournament where a non-league side can dump a premiership team out. It's the magic and unpredictability of the FA Cup. The League Cup just does not have that mistique.

I can't describe it but it's as if the fact a game is in the world's greatest domestic football tournament that evens the odds a lot more.

When it comes to the early rounds of the FA Cup I'd much rather United draw one of the other big 3 clubs than a lower-league side. The underdogs have nothing to lose and everything to play for. I used to hate it 10 years ago when United always used to get picked to play Wimbledon. A team full of superstar internationals and they'd still beat us.

I don't think anything is ever certain in an FA Cup game. If United lost to a lower league team in that tournament I would be disappointed but not too disheartened - it's the nature of the FA Cup.

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I know it might be sad to say, If Spurs are winning, l can see Utd putting the big guns, ie Ronaldo on, and doing his usual( and please don't think l am having a go, this is serious stuff now), and we end up losing. due to a penalty or something.

I have been a Yid for 30 years, and l CANNOT see us winning, due to the wording of Harry, he is concentrating on the League and nothing else, if that is confidence of a manager, you might as well give up.

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If Spurs are winning and Utd get a penalty and score (assuming it's one nil or whatever), that would make it all square surely?

Lets hope it is a good game worthy of a cup final and the best team wins on the day !!

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Also, United have been near unstoppable this season and if they play at half their usual effort it will still outgun Spurs who have been playing well below par this season?

Might also be something to consider..

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At least I stayed here in Mancunia ;)

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I am more than happy being that little team from Salford ;)

Based on us turning up the morrow, I am going 3-0 or 3-1. I think Spurs have bigger fish to fry (League Cup Final v Prem Safety) and although both teams will chop n change, if I can put my "Rose Tinted Specs" on for a moment, our kids are a lot better than Spurs kids, hey they where already on, and I can't get them off :D

I like the League Cup, it was dying a death a few years back, Fergie got slammed for dropping the big names, but once everyone realised it is a squad game these days, it has given it a new purpose. You get a break from the Prem, blood some kids, get a midweek game out of it, some shock results. It's become it's own little entity, it will never get above the FA Cup, but it is a better competition than it was when it was changing sponsors every season.

I will be gutted if we don't win it. Can't wait.

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Touche!!!!

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...ds/7916585.stm

Nice gesture. :tu:

Could get very expensive for "certain managers" if this sets a trend. ;)

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Good gesture is that. :)