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Out of curiosity how long are accounts suspended for usually ?.

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I dont think it helps if the thread turns into a discussion about whether or not it should continue or be put to bed. This comment is not aimed at anyone and not aimed to insult or offend anyone.

It's about the abduction of the young lady and any news regarding it. So far this week (or so) the only news appears to be that blood has been found in the appartment and that the police have taken months to uncover this and in the mean-time the appartment has been used instead of being sealed off as a crime scene. And today's 'news' is that the police now think the young lady could be dead.

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And the car and British driver and the fact British police are on the case

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As new information seems to be coming out each day about this, I'd say the thread should be kept open - however the problem as I see it is the new developments get discussed, then the old topic of "were the parents to blame" pops up again.

As long as we concentrate on new developments I see no reason to close this.

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how can we do that? its all related you cant sweep the first 3 months under the carpet like that imo

The mother herself in the press has expressed how she feels the blame for it this very week so its all still relevent

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Blood was only discovered after the involvement of the british police apparently. Also i heard this week that there was evidence that the blood that was there had been wiped or some attempt to conceal it had been made. So whoever abducted (i prefer to believe she is still alive) her had time to try and cover their tracks.

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Might I suggest that's one of those things you probably don't *want* to find out?

If you're asking the question it probably means you're trying to decide whether pursuing the matter any further is worth the risk of getting a suspension - I'm gonna put it to you that it isn't.

If we're all honest about this there really isn't anything new in anything that's been said on this subject for the last month or so. Sure, they found a bit of blood. Sure, they dug some bloke's garden up. Are they any closer to finding her? No. Are we any closer to agreeing what should/will happen to her parents? No.

Why not just let it lie until something new comes up in the news, then have a brief spate of pulling the news apart and going over the same old territory all over again. Then leave it until the next news story, repeat if necessary (you get the picture).

I know it's frustrating not being able to discuss what you want when you want, but there really does come a point when all that can be said has been - I think we're probably there right now.

As for Mick's decision to close/not close the thread for a while. He's one of the guys that has to look after (and probably pay for) the server space that these discussions are using up. Hell, if he wants to delete the thread and let you start again then that's up to him.

Personally I think there's good justification for both sides of this one, but it's an argument that nobody's ever going to win.

Tomorrow's another day guys, why not grab a beer, put your feet up, and hope that the headlines give you something new to discuss in the morning :)

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what car and british driver?

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No i was asking purely out of curiosity and nothing else i have always taken the view you never argue with admins on admin issue's be it on forums or game servers it was pure curiosity.

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Yes but the same people keep saying the same things over and over about who is to blame. Nothing new is brought to the discussion.

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The line gets drawn here and now - If people want this thread to stay open, new points need to be brought up. There is absolutely no need for the same thing being said again and again, I agree and I don't think any other 'responsible' person would argue this, that you shouldn't leave young children alone. Okay, we have established this fact, time to move on from this and discuss something else about the case.

The opportunity exists for this thread to stay open, don't waste it by arguing with a request I have made or it will get closed and I will take action on the member(s) responsible for its closure.

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It's much worse than that Rizzy, the reason Portuguese police now believe she is dead because one of the British dogs out there is a cadaver dog, it picked up a scent in the room

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Yeah i saw TONIGHTS news that the dog is meant to have picked up the odour of a dead body having been in the apartment :(.

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Hi Rizzyking, good to see your comment, it is just a thought, to find ways of finding her, as whilst l have been writing this thread, Sky news have an exclusive with The News Of The World, that in tomorrows edition, they have some interesting information on this case, how is that for a newsflash to fellow members.:)

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it's all starting to sound very depressing if this new 'news' is genuine.

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The news is genuine I'm sure, there is still hope though, she wouldn't have been in the room long (if the worst happened) and it was months ago now, the mutt could well be wrong

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Seems she wasn't murdered after all

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/blo...857633624.html

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But then again....

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...1,00.html?f=vg

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I find it odd that apparently the parents were never suspects - highly unlikely thought it may be that they had any role in this, surely the Police work on the basis that everyone connected to an incident is a suspect until it can be proved that they weren't responsible.

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The bloods is not her's, It does not however rule out the possibillity of her being murdered in the apartment.

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Right now i am gladdened that the blood wasn't hers and hope that means she is still alive.

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Just repeating what the paper reported, they must have got this from somewhere, unless they have caught the British newspaper disease and are just making things up now!!

It says forensic results show the blood came from a man, ending speculation the little girl was murdered in the apartment the night she disappeared.

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You're both right in a sense - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. However as I've been saying all along, we need to give due regard to likelihood based on available evidence, otherwise we have no reliable means of establishing which theories are more credible and which are less credible.

The fact that the blood does not belong to Madeleine McCann means that there is *no* evidence to support the theory that she died in the apartment. In terms of working out what is likely to have happened to her, this does, as the newspaper suggests, put an end to the speculation that she died there. Or at least, it should. Sadly I suspect the conspiracists won't want to let it drop. :(

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I think the worse part is the just not knowing, as a mother I really do not know how I would cope not knowing if my little one was out there somewhere with god knows what happening to him/her :(

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Thats the only trouble now every little girl will look like maddie to some. Flase alarms will abound.

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I don't think the Belgian girl looks anything like Maddie.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...EWS&ICL=TOPART

Also despite what The Times said last week, still no result from the blood tests.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...280490,00.html

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Interesting

Police have also revealed for the first time that they believe more than one person may have been involved in kidnapping Madeleine.

The advice to stay put came as the Portuguese police gave a rare official assurance that the investigation was nearing completion.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...e_id=1770&ct=5

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Very

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An interesting article on VM's news pages:-

http://www.virginmedia.com/news/worl...oryid=12105426

"Meanwhile, Portuguese police now believe Madeleine was killed accidentally in her apartment, according to reports. A police source said officers believe the four-year-old is dead, and that she died in the family's apartment.
They are not sure whether her death was murder or accidental, but are said to be leaning towards it being a tragic accident."

Does this mean they now suspect the parents of being involved, or am I reading it wrong?


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That insinuation has been doing the rounds for some weeks now (that the parents may have killed her accidentally and then covered it up). I said at the time it first surfaced in this thread, and I'll say it again now: I just can't see how that stacks up. I can't see a believable motive and I can't believe they have either the capability within themselves, or the resources necessary to cover up such a thing while on holiday in a foreign country.

If Madeleine died in the apartment, then I think it would have been the result of a bungled robbery or kidnapping.

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Seem's you might be (from the link 2 posts above)


Mr Sousa denied claims that Madeleine's parents had ever been under suspicion

A senior police source said: "There is nothing to stop the McCanns going home. They are not suspects but we have told them it is not good timing because the investigation has changed.

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Then when take the body?

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:confused:

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I think he means "why take the body?"

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To try and minimise the amount of forensic evidence left at the scene

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As time goes by this case is getting more and more complicated with no one saying what they actually think. Police say the parents are not suspects then infer in other statements that they might have done something wrong. There are more mixed messages in this case then an album remix none of which help the public understand and get involved in this case and does not do the mc'canns any good either.

As for taking the body away to limit forensics maybe it does but what it definately would do is make more then just the apartment a forensic playground so i can't believe they accidentally killed her and took away a dead body.

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I know that many armchair Columbo's have come up with this theory, but isn't this the first time that the Portuguese police themselves have actually used such language?

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The quote about the police source saying that they are "leaning towards it being a tragic accident." makes it sound like the parents were involved somehow. If Madeliene died as the result of a stranger entering her room, how could the police possibly know if her death (if she is dead) was accidental or otherwise?

Are the police trying to keep the McCanns in Portugal without arousing suspicion?

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So, Has a body been found? or is everybody just "Assuming" that little Madelaine is dead? I get a feeling that i`ve missed something here.:confused:

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Dunno, but as to the Porto's police being a req to be tight lipped....They may could just be playing a game......McCann's not suspects in an abduction............but if the investigation changes to a 'death', and a seperate investigation........to murder /accidental death, (God forbid by them). then they must on account of visiting (?) the apartment during the night out, be suspects, in a different (or changed stance) by the Port. police. Wording of the Port's should be looked at.

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I still prefer to think she is alive somewhere and until a body turns up i will continue to believe that.

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Seems that Team McCann might now be regretting having courted the press quite so much...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../nmaddy126.xml

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Can they make their mind up they wanted her image displayed prominately now they don't am i the only one confused surely continuing coverage is the best chance to get her back.

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I may be somewhat cynical, but perhaps they're anticipating a backlash in the British press, and are looking to pre-empt it by trying to stay out of the media limelight as much as possible.

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I'm saying nowt

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I should hope not. A great deal of the speculation in the UK - on this board and elsewhere - has, I think, come down to an inability, or an unwillingness, of commentators to take into account the fact that investigative and judicial process in Portugal is very different than it is here.

Far too much significance has been attached to far too many 'developments' in this case.

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Hmmm, Kate IS now a suspect.

She can't be, she's such a loving, caring, mother.

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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283158,00.html
She sure is a suspect.11 hours of questions......................

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This is still just something they do over there isnt it. They have already had these suspects before iirc. Im not gonna judge anything till the end of investigation.I just hope its all concluded soon although it does not appear it will be concluded with a happy ending

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[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Curiouser and couriouser, I still find it hard to believe the McCanns had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance.

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Agree - the complexities of the Portuguese legal system aren't helping matters but the media just like to fill their pages and bulletins so none of that will matter to them and they'll speculate 'til the cows come home.

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So the Portugese police released a statement saying they the mother was being interviewed as a witness and in this mornings papers the mother is allegeding that the police are trying to frame her..............

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Hmm if you believe what you read the Portugese interviewed her on advice and evidence from British police though

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11 hours of questioning for a witness hmm not entirely sure i believe that i have always thought other then being negligent the parents had nothing to do with this but maybe it is time to think again. Certainly the british police are not as happy with the mc'canns side of things as the portugese were.

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:clap:

Unfortunately the media has become an unstoppable juggernaut in this case. There is no editorial discernment going on here any more. It's just a feeding frenzy, and none of them are in any hurry to give due consideration to Portuguese procedures.

Robert Murat was - and still is - a formal suspect. It doesn't mean he did it. It doesn't mean the mother did it either (whatever 'it' is).

Of course, the other problem is that there is a hang 'em high brigade - some of whom are members of this forum - who seem to think that the mere interest of the police equates to a conviction. :mad:

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Partial evidence the full results are still not back from the FSS yet.

My point though is as a couple they decided that they wanted less press involvment, however even though only being questioned as a witness the mother now appears to be getting very agitated that she 'will be framed' and is now again going to all the papers.

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Of which the parents have to accept a good proportion of responsbility

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Now it would appear that Kate McCann is to be made a formal suspect.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6982969.stm

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Watching This Morning, they've got a McCann aunt on the phone.

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I seem to recall the parents looking for help publicising their daughter's disappearance in order to help get her back, not asking for wall-to-wall coverage of every spit and cough of every 'insider' remotely attached to the case.

The parents are only as responsible for this as I would be responsible for the trashing of my house as a result of me inviting people to a party at which alcohol was served.

The Press is not above responsibility, no matter how often it may trot out the usual craven excuses about the public interest.

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It is true that the press are not above responsibility, but to seek press attention in the way the McCanns did, and not expect this outcome would be highly naive. That's not to say they wanted this outcome obviously, but you can't go and seek attention and then expect to control what is printed.

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I heard that the Vatican have removed anything related to the McGanns from their official website? Doees anyone know if this is true?

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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283158,00.html

Blood found in hire car.

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I heard that as well, so I looked and the word Maddie reveal no results and McCann brings up some woman called Bertha and a Cardinal, so it would seem they have removed all traces, doesn't necessarily mean anything though, it's not like the Vatican are privy to the case, are they?

http://vatican.mondosearch.com/search_en.aspx

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According to Sky News Kate MacCann has been made a formal suspect by Portuguese police.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283158,00.html

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I know its easy to say but i always had her down as a suspect. There were too many aspects to the whole package which didnt feel right to me.

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And so it begins ... :rolleyes:

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What? That the parents had something to do with? The Police think so.

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Presumably though they have evidence rather than gut feelings and tabloid tittle tattle though

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In all honesty mate there's quite a few people (myself included, as well as some others on this forum) who have thought the parents were somehow involved, long before this development.

Suspicion hasn't just started in the last few days or even today.

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It seems to be linked to the fact that blood was found in the McCanns hire car.

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Did I read it right, cause it seems that they hired this car 25 days after madeline dissapeared. (Or was the blood found 28 days after she went missing....?)

If its the former, this would imply that she was moved in a car that her parents had hired 25 days after she was reported missing.

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No, this, wot I said earlier this morning:

The British Press, and many people here on this forum, are continually failing to account for the differences in British and Portuguese investigative procedures.

The police do not have to think the McCanns 'had something to do with' their daughter's death in order for them to be declared official suspects. The designation in Portuguese is a legal mechanism that affords certain protections to someone when the police want to ask them certain difficult questions.

I wouldn't worry though, you are not alone in your readiness to point the finger, or to suggest the Police believe more than they actually do. Apparently Mrs McCann was jeered by some sections of the crowd when she returned to the police station this morning.

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Yes the car was hired 25 days after Madeleine went missing.:shrug:

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Chris T, no one is saying hang 'em high?
Sky News are now saying Kate will be arrested later today.

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If she has done it then hanging would be too easy a way out for her.

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Now Kate's Mum is a suspect too. Something isn't right.

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Have you got a source please? Linky.

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http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283158,00.html

Quote:

Sky News "There are specific questions they need to ask and they can only do that if she is a suspect."

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Sky TV news have just reported that traces of Madeleine's blood was found on Kate's clothes. I am not sure whether this was found by the portuguese police, or whether it was part of the recent UK DNA tests.

I wonder, though, how significant these kind of things really are. I bet if you looked closely enough, you would find traces of children's blood on most parents clothes, through entirely innocent means.

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Same thought here, ever since one member of the press (not Uk) posed it to them ages ago. However - Since this broke, they have been watched near enough 24/7, not by the police, but by the press - which are far worse!

Q1 - Why make a worldwide appeal for the return of your daughter, if you've done it and know that your every move will be watched?
Q2 - If she has unfortunately died (either by accident or other) there is the slight problem of - where is the body?

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Just out of interest - do the police know who hired the car previous to the McCanns????

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Sky News are now saying that Kate McCann may be charged later today with
Madeleine's accidental death.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...283158,00.html

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Q1. How odd would it look if she did not make that appeal ?
Q2. I suspect this may be where the blood in the hire car comes into play

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even if she is charged there are two points to keep in mind a)innocent until PROVED guilty and via the proper court process and b)the police investigation has been an utter shambles - eg. the appartment/crime scene has been contaminated.

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1) Completely agree, innocent until proven guilty

2) Sources to support crime scene contamination ?

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Woolly looking at it from a neutral point doing what they did could be looked at either way they did it because they didn't have anything to do with her disappearence or that they did it to try and throw suspicion off themselves. I have listened to this on bbc 24 most of the day and the police seem to be very specific about what they want to ask her. Being formally called a suspect does not of course mean guilt and in portugal as has been stated it opens up more legal avenues for both police and kate mccann.

The part of the hire car IF true is worrying i mean i am not a statistics person but what is the chance of hiring the car your child was abducted in five weeks later. That does seem to point a finger squarely at the parents or someone close to the parents. Reality is this case has more twists and turns then a helter skelter while i always thought it was odd they weren't suspects earlier maybe the portugese have different procedures and as already said being a suspect doesn't make them guilty of anything.

Police now seem to be convinced that maddie is dead which is sad for that alone. Why they have turned so much attention to the parents only they and the british police know and i doubt they are in a rush to release such info to the public just yet. We must as we have done from day one wait and see though it saddens me to no longer be talking about maddie being found alive.

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Aren't the new developments a result of the UK forensic tests?

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And what would you do if your daughter went missing? Would you just sit there waiting for the police to bring her back, or would you spend every waking hour looking for her and encouraging everyone else to the same?

The problem is they're damned if they do and damned if they don't; what they have done is a perfectly natural reaction to having your daughter abducted, but sadly it's also what someone who might be covering up something to protect themselves might do...

...same outcome, polar oposite reasons.

And I think it's unfair and quite distasteful to be speculating as to whether the parents did or didn't have anything to do with her disappearence, when none of us are actually in possession of very many of the facts at this stage.

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I don't know if the parents had anything to do with it or not, and I will withold judgment until proven guilty! However something is not right about this whole crime!!

What really get's to me is that if me and my wife just popped across the road to a friends house for example and simply left our children alone and asleep in our home and something happened like that to one of our children then no doubt we would be prosecuted and have social services take away the rest of our children!!!

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I don't think there is anything wrong with speculating, it is human nature.
All I will say is if I am ever up in court I would like the jury made up of the people on here who can't see which way this case is going.

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Do you mean 'can't see' or 'refuse to be drawn on incomplete information'? :scratch:

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firstly this:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappe...tuguese_police

"Controversy ensued on 17 June when Chief Inspector Olegário de Sousa said that the presence of so many people in the apartment from which Madeleine disappeared, after she was found to be missing, complicated the work of the scientific team. He added that this could have destroyed all the evidence and could prove to be fatal for the investigation."

the presence of so many people in the apartment from which Madeleine disappeared, after she was found to be missing=contaminated


then this:-

"However, the British police team, brought in to assist, in early August found microscopic traces of blood on the wall of the apartment from which Madeleine disappeared and that had not been detected by the Portuguese police. Using specially-trained sniffer dogs and ultraviolet technology they discovered the blood despite the apartment having being cleaned and reoccupied"

apartment having being cleaned and reoccupied=contaminated

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correct but some of the results are on tests done within the apartment in August long after Madeline went missing and after the room was contaminated. I dont see how any of this evidence from the apartment could be 'sound' considering that the scene wasn't as undisturbed as possible. Also the chance of a fair trial is ruined because evidence to prove they're (whoever is in the dock) innocent might have also been destroyed by post scene contamination.

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If I were playing poker and I never won a hand, I would at some point say that the game was fixed, before I could prove it.

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If you were a detective, that would be reasonable grounds for suspicion, and therefore a line of enquiry. But you were talking about jury service, not being a detective. Suspicions and probabilities have no place in the jury room in a criminal trial, where the threshold for conviction is 'beyond reasonable doubt'.

You can't have it both ways. Would you like to judge your fellow posters against the job description of a detective or a juror?

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Don't really understand the point you are making?
When we post here we are neither a detective or a juror.
We are people giving a personal opinion.
The point I was making was that some people are incredibly forgiving when it seems to me that this case is only going to play out in one way.

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And my ultimate point is, there is a hang 'em high contingent on this forum who think that police suspicion is as good as a conviction. And despite your protestations, if you think we're being 'forgiving' based on the information in the public domain, you apparently are one of them.

Otherwise, what is there to 'forgive' anyone for?

Innocent until proven guilty, that's the main thing I am insisting on. And in support of that, not drawing conclusions that go beyond the available evidence, especially when some of that 'evidence' is simply our own flawed understanding of how police investigations in a foreign country are handled.

I am open minded about this case. The parents *could* have done it. I have said all along that the information available, by which I mean actual evidence, not dodgy interpretations of police activity, is not nearly weighty enough to convince me that they did, or even make me suspicious that they did.

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You keep coming back to hang 'em high. I have never said that and there is very little of that in this thread. I want this case to be resolved. I think we are very close to that now.

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I dont think there will be case resolution until they find her.

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Indeed you didn't - it's a parody intended to help make a point about a particular mindset. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

However your belief that the case is 'very close' to being resolved further illustrates my point. If the parents are even charged, the case will not be resolved until they are convicted in court. That would not be for some considerable time yet.

I take it, however, that for you, simply an accusation by the Police is sufficient?

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No, a police accusation is not enough for me.
The McCann's behaviour from the out set has been suspicious in my opinion.

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I think a lot of that could stem from the fact that they feel very guilty at having left their children and may have done so for longer periods than was initially claimed.