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See the news article in full here

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Just done a comment about this in the cap section also,
"Brand-new Internet service provider Be Unlimited is on the verge of launching a 24Mbit/s broadband service - the fastest in the UK and triple the speed of the current leading competitor. Based on ADSL2+ technology (doubles the download bandwidth) and thanks to LLU (Local Loop Unbundling), Be Unlimited's new service should help to give the UK's broadband market a much-needed shake-up. The rollout will start in London, quickly expanding to the rest of the UK, according to the company."

http://www.bethere.co.uk/

sent of my current details and got this reply -
"Your name to our list, ensures you are one step closer to having Be installed. We'll keep your email on record and check our coverage growth regularly to see if you qualify for setup in your area."

hopefully wont be long till these super services spread and ntl/bt and the other isps here with their tight **** 1mb-2mb capped services will be made to look like jokes which most savvy net users knew for years,1-3mb capped lnext to 24mbs would be like driving a push bike next to a sports car.

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...I can't get my head around this:dunce: Wouldn't it be better for ntl to scrap an unlimited service and just have a selection of tiered 10Mb packages. Surely it's better to have a 10Mb @ 600Gb per month package as their top user allowance service - i.e. max six days use - than a 2Mb unlimited service which would be continuously used 24/7 to achieve the same 600Gb amount? The chances of 10 users "overlapping" their allowance downloads on a 600Gb capped 10Mb service would be quite slim - whilst on the 2Mb service, users are much more likely to overlap and thus eat into more bandwidth.

Just my 2 penneth worth!

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For all those that ask about what NTL can see behind their router, this is what the combined CM Hardware Information

has in a status page which I'm sure can be reported to Time Warner cable .

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10 2Mbit users downloading at the same time won't saturate a local area, 4 10Mbit users will.

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I can see your point, but personally I'm hoping that they do offer an unlimited package at a speed lower than 10 Mbit... although slightly higher speed than the current 3 Mbit would be nice. In all honesty, I'm not too interested in a 10 Mbit connection that's capped - I'm likely to regularly exceed the cap over a month but would not find too many cases where the speed of a 10 Mbit connection would be that necessary. I download a lot of TV shows that I miss, for example, and would be more than happy to download those at 4 or 5 Mbit - it's still fast enough to download quicker than you watch them ;)

If this type of package is cheaper than the current £37 p/month that I'm currently paying for my 3 Mbit connection, then I'll be even happier too!

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I hear the BBC will start to offer tv shows to be downloaded from their website, i wonder if this will come into play when companies decide how big to make their caps.

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I don't see why it would

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Would the Samsung STB's (of which I'm still waiting for one!) need to be changed to handle 10MB/s? Like when they had to change the PACE STB's for Samsungs in the 1MB to 2MB increase?

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nope apparently the samsung box should be able to handle 10mb with ease.
Just wondering how much bandwidth is avaliable to each area?
and whan you say local area how many customers is that ususaly? :dunce: :)

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im not so sure about that, i think, the samsung STB have only a 10meg card in them, sure someone will confirm either way.....

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well i know my samsung struggles when I max out my 2MB connection so wouldn't like to see it with 10 MB

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anyone know of ntl trialling 10mb connections at th emoment

also any news yet on the upload speed (thats the most important factor for me)

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i have heared october beta testing it could be wrong hope its not doh ;)

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I made a thread on this, ntl need to signup as a multicast peer before we get to use this, so ntl can dictate when we start using it not bbc.

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the old pace box was only 10mb but my samsung is runnin at 100mb and i think it can evan do full duplex! :erm: :erm:

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I think the BBC are going to use their own P2P style thing for the TV show downloads.

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I got on a trial of this last year and it was very good. Although the DRM on the files only let you watch for 7 days.

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It was :tu:

Although the program was outrageously picky about what media player you could use. I had it working then it stopped working (something about Windows Upgrade changing the build) and then could never get it working again.

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Yea it had to be the media player 9 no more no less!

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Hi .. I dont know if ive been upped to 10 Mb/s or not .. (my poor old cmx only goes up to 3 Mb/s) but Ive been getting 3 Mb/s for the last few days (I'm supposed to be on the old 2Mb/s level) Im located in north-east Hapmshire.

BTW my Upload is 300 kb/s

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am on 3mb i only get 30kb/s upload mmmm

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He is talking in kilobits, yourself kilobytes.

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anyone got any new news on the new speeds like the upload not be a post for a while i heard the start of the 10mb service is being launched initially in Guildford any info on this dont know if its been posted before

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Oh come on, this is NTL were talking about here, their PR Dept have done their job (announcing the 10mb speed increases) and probably save a few peeps from jumping ship to some of the other providers (Bulldog etc) to maximise NTL`s revenue.

It`ll be here about 3-4 month`s from now at least if the last upgrade was anything to go by..

Me a cynic, never :D

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It has: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...ed-as-standard

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didnt see the Guildford bit doh :dozey:

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In the shopping centre in my town centre NTL are signing people up for 1Mb BB, I asked about 10Mb he said that 3Mb customers by the end of the year

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I would rather it came later and hope that they do some needed upgrades on their peering links first, a stable 2mbit is better then an erratic 10mbit.

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This question shows the ammount of time ive been with NTL broadband!

Will the old terayon terajet 210 modems take 10 mb?? or will i need to fight the gauntlett to get it replaced??

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Ive been reading on ADSL-guide that BT have delayed the Max DSL launch till spring-2006, I also read that they will be running a number of trials before launch blah blah ,

I just want to know, if you guys still think NTL will still go ahead with the 10mb upgrades before christmas,

I ask this because NTL only released the 10mb news, to keep up with BT,
and now bt have delayed things, I just wondered if it will create a domino effect,

I really hope not, but who knows?.

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i read a post on the NTL Media site saying some customers will need to upgrade their modem. Further details will be announced at launch. so it might just be the 200,s i have the new 250 we will see on launch

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Thatââ‚ ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s got me thinking, I donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t even know what Modem Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ve got.



Its silver with Ntl:home Broadband internet on it Model 60194E A12.



I have a problem with the Ac plug and an enginner is coming on the 21st of this month and the CS said they would probably change the Modem as well but I thought it would just be the same one, as Iâ₠¬ÃƒÆ’¢â€žÂ¢ve had to send things back in there entirety before to places when only a small part is fault to get a brand new back.



So is this an old model?

Fairly happy with it never had any problems apart from the ac unit supplying it. Would my old one have been swapped anyway fro this new speed increase?

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150 or the 200 m8 it will be they will change it anyway when they come they did with mine

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I got a knock on the door today from a bulldog salesman, he said ntl was going to charge over £50 for the 10mb

He left rather quickly :D

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This has been asked before, the network port is only 10Mbps half-duplex, which means the output network port won't be able to sustain 10Mbps downstream and the required percentage upstream acknowledgement messages. Newer modems have 100Mbps network ports so won't have this restriction

However - it may get very close and in real use not likely to be the limiting factor! I'm sure ntl will test and replace any modems that don't meet the spec - I recommend waiting - who knows what the ntl 350 will be capable of!

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I can't afford £50 a month more, the already get £80 per month, from as me as it is.

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it cost me about £100 a month all together :Yikes:

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I read it takes upto 34Mb

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Just as well the Bulldog salesman was talking out of his anal region then really :)

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I take it this Bulldog salesman works part time in the NTL boardroom. Ntl have not said how much yet so how the hell he would know is the question. There again he is a salesman so will say anything that might get him a sale. Did he tell you about the investigation being carried out against them. ? I have been trying to figure out how they can make such a mess with so few customers. God help anyone that is with them when they get more customers. :Yikes:

Poodog you have to give them 2 out of 10 for trying :LOL:

So you can understand why i end up :rofl: when i hear "Thats it :bigcry: i am off to Bulldog followed by poor old teddy hitting the wall" :LOL:

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my dad has bulldog he got it installed a week ago he,s on the 8mb he gets 10kb/s no bull thats wot he gets he phones them on sunday they said they will ring back and get someone out he is still waiting he,s fooken them off there where on watch dog bulldog did anyone see it that sales man is talking out his bum

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translation...

My dad has bulldog - he got it installed a week ago. He's supposed to be on 8mb but he gets 10kb/s - no bull thats what he gets! He phoned them on sunday and they said they will ring back and get someone out. But he is still waiting so he's getting rid of them. They were on Watchdog - did anyone see it? That sales man is talking out of his bum.

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I work for Bulldog, all i can say alot of changes are going at the mo.
Safeman, sounds to me like you need to have the line checked. Simple process to do.
If you check out pcpitstop dot com you can do a speed test, or use the bulldog one. that will give you an idea of your speed.
You gotta remember Bulldog say UP TO 8Mb, and as with all xDSL it will depend on the distance from the exchange. Rembering the route of the line could be further than you think!

From what i heard, alot of the issues raised in Watchdog, were actually to do with the BT side of things. Then again i cant comment on ya as i was not in the country when it was aired.

Least they are learning from any mistakes that were made.

24Meg is coming btw ;)

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24 meg with wot upload speed?

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got an guy coming to swap my Modem, I bet he knows sod all about the 10mb upgrade

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Absolutely no reason why he should know anything about it :shrug: His job is completely unrelated to developments :erm:

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When i tried to get Bulldog, BT took so long over "making space" at the local exchange for the Bulldog equipment, i had to cancel.
So if if BT are involved [as they are] i can believe it.

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Personally, I'd rather keep my existing 2mb connection, which is fine for me, and have a price reduction. But I suppose huge speed increases are better publicity.

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For most people the new speeds will only mean that they get information faster, not more of it. If NTL offered the choice of lower prices if you didn't want the speed increase then many customers would plump for the lower price. There is no logical reason to expect a price reduction. All the infrastructure has to be in place and paid for to allow you the higher speed if you want it.

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let face it no company does any thing that will help its customers if it wont grab headlinesand makepeople sing there praisesfrom the roof tops ntl arethe perfectexample of this

takes the 1meg upgrade for example massivetext and large add campain 1 meg for 9:99 a month
tiny text 3 months introductory offer, connection subject to pittifully small cap that even casual users will breach.
note: opinon expresed above not an actuall ntl advert,
person expresing opinion is on 300k and has hit 5 gig this month 1 - 15 gig is resonable 3gig is pitiful

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There would be no price reduction, there isn't a lot more you getting for your money. Currently have 2mbit burst with a soft 30gig cap, we are moving onto higher burst with higher cap which at some point will have to be enforced to make it viable.

As speeds go up contention issues become more apperent and people also realise that unless they download large files or run a netcafe or something the extra speed is just a number and doesnt do a lot for them. Users also will hit a limit with us servers and other servers that have perhaps max 10mbit of bandwidth as they wont be able to send fast enough. I think the uk in the last year or so has suddenly hit a speed craze where the isps have to take something back with the other hand.

In case of demon internet the isp rolled out a free 2mbit upgrade, before the upgrade user's had a steady 512kbit connection with reliable pings and after the upgrade peak time is a nightmare for pings and they have speed lower then their previous 512kbit. Plusnet also after overcrowding with 2mbit users and trying to prepare for 8mbit rollout have got themselves in a jam with their traffic management policies.

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Are there any dates yet for the upgrades to 10MB?


Some Telewest users have gone up to 10MB today.


What is happening to the users on NTL's 1MB and 2MB tiers? Are they to be upgraded next year?

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I dont know :( NTL dont tell their customers much...they leave them guessing.

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not releasing much info makes hype hype leads to interest and 856 post forum threads which generate moer hype and more interest killing the hype by giving out info whould kill off the interest also

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What? :p: j/k ;) but I really didn't catch much of that.

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Cant complain as the came when they said in fact it was 9:02am. But the engineer got out a new modem and I stupidly said its just the Ac adaptor mate so thatâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s all a got a new ac plug.



Will the old modems be fine for this upgrade ?

:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

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Im gutted now that NTL havnt started the upgrades and telewest have started it :(
I just hope that NTL aint too far behind :(

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thats nthell for you m8 allways behind never give there customers much info shame tbh :td: btw anyone see in the telepest section 10mb screen shots :(

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Well seems they are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.

Give out some information and folk are clammering for more, whatever is given is never enough, they wanna know the in's and out's of everything. Keep things quiet until they are ready to launch and that ain't good enough either, people claim to be kept in the dark and uninformed. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I really do despair at some posts I read, the thought of sticking my head in the gas oven rather than reading more cap/10mb posts seems rather more appealing.........

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And as we are not in a Telewest area what bearing does it have. Tell you what Comcast have just upgraded there customers in Canada. You going to complain about that too :mad: . If you are so worried about size sorry speed there are faster providers out there ?. or if you really want telewest then move into one of there areas. These posts **** me off. Gee you lot would complain if we gave you everything for free and tucked you up in bed with a free cup of coco each night. It realy makes me wonder why i bother posting here if all you can do is whinge at every thing that NTL do.

BTW safeman according to this your leaving so why are you complaining http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...58&postcount=1

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am complaining coz its nthell btw no phone line in are house coz we all have moblies so i cant change internet service if i could i would get telepest

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Well there are other providers. All you have to do is get a land line. But there again you would probably complain about them as well.

BTW is that why you post in txt speak ?

and if you have no phone line then why was you saying you where thinking of moving.

And if you are in a NTL area you cannot get Telewest ?

I remember the Anti Cap brigade banging there chests and shouting from the roof tops "Thats It Were Moving". Funny thing is there all still on NTL and still here.

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The pro-cap brigade does spout out some nonsense :rolleyes:

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Maybe thats because ntl havnt actually capped anybody?

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Telewest allways release faster speeds before NTL, Its a fact, just look at the last 4-5 years,

The reason is obvious, NTL, have a much bigger network than telewest, and hence the lead time to upgrade the network.

Thank your lucky starts your getting 10mb, people I know are stuck on 512kb on a aluminum DSL line @5.6km length!

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Correct but the doom merchants said they would. Same as the NThell merchants that dont give a fig and just want to complain No matter what. If there not complaining they are not happy. And here's :dunce: old me thinking we had got away from that on this forum and were doing something helpfull. But hey It's NTL so lets complain. :mad: and then we are happy
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What do you mean i had the conversation with one of them on the phone. He is a member of this site.

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I don't think one person constitutes a "brigade", not everyone who disagrees with the cap is quite that insane. :p:

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Other ISP's are all very well but then you don't get the †œBloke in the Pubââ‚Âà ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ� service with anyone else except ntl. ;)

And as for †œunlimitedà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Ã⠀šÃ‚Â�, some hosting companies have been advertising this for years, only for people to find themselves booted off when their bandwidth has exceeded just a nominal amount.

Just remember that †œunlimitedà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Ã⠀šÃ‚Â� is just to suck people in, once they are on-board heavy download/uploaders tend to get booted off by every residential type of ISP/Hosting company, sooner rather than later.

What has become apparent recently is that ntl have been turning a blind eye to really heavy usage in the past, even though the people doing it knew that they were taking the pee pee. It's not as if ntl has jumped on people who went over a few gigs a month, by all accounts people who have been downloading 3 or even 4 times the †œallowanceà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Ã⠀šÃ‚Â� have not been given the word.

It appears to me that ntl are more tolerant than many people give them credit for.

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Anybody who thinks I do not like ntl is wrong. I like NTL I just think that they are a bit slow at getting things done....but overall they give me a good service and i am quite happy with them.

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NTL have a larger user base, hence more traffic. lets take the figure of 300,000 10mb users more users than telewest.

300,000 more users would need at least 1tb link to multiple transit providers around europe, US etc,

Whats the lead time of getting these type of fibre links installed ? and the equipment required to handle the task?

Its not just a case of upgrading what NTL own, its all about capacity and lead times, fibre links, equipment etc,

I still think NTL are doing a great job and one day NTL will win the UK cable battle.:tu:

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There was lots more trust me :). I remember that weekend very well. All you had was well that is it i am off. The problem is the site that it happened on is no more so we don't have the thread anymore. It got very very heated. :D

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isp's got a soft touch in this country so many say unlimited when they are not. Something like this is not unlimited it is just hiding the cap level. "we reserve the right to take action if your downloading affects other users".

NTL are not guilty of this so its not a slam at them :)

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I can promise you 300,000 users doesn't need at least 1Tbit of transit.

ntl, Telewest, BT and AOL combined don't have 1Tbit of transit.

I could give you the exact amount of capacity that ntl had on the broadband cable network when I left, however I'll stop at saying it's a lot less than 100Gbit and more than enough for the job.

1Tbit is a huge huge number and no IP network in the UK or for that matter anywhere else can support that kind of abuse at the moment. (Note use of 'IP' I'm aware of 80 wavelength DWDM, etc, that supports 10Gbit/wavelength though even then you only get 800Gbit/s per fibre.)

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If you are happy with NTL why complain?

What are you missing out on by not having your speed upgraded today? What are you prevented from doing?

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I have not seen any post or news report that ntl were going to upgrade anyone today. Not seen any reports of firm dates. What another company does has no bearing on my work or my connection. It is at this time impossible for me to be installed with Telewest broadband. Therefor i will not be getting upset that i have not been upgraded today by telewest. :D

However i will be upgraded by NTL when they are good and ready. I am a 3 meg user and therefor will be amongst the first to be upgraded when they are good and ready. :D

Then i will be able to download my daily Linux iso's that little bit faster :angel:

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I am prevented from downloading at 1.2MB/s :p:
I like speed you see.....

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Slow at getting things done?

Nearly all the people here have no idea whether they are getting it done fast or getting it done slowly.

Same goes for knowing what technical differences between ntl and tw there are with the upgrades, ruling out the 'tw are getting it done faster' argument.

You pay for the service you have now, not for what you may have in the next month, so its not like you can complain.

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just took a look at the speed test the telewest guy put up. cant wait for ntl to do the same..........

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The question really is "what do you do that needs that speed?" Also what can't you do that you could do with a 10 Mbps connection? And I don't mean download at 1.2Mb/s. :D

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If that were true then there would be no point the the upgrades at all? wot do u think i will do with the 10mbit? lol
I will use my connection...either downloadin demo's and stuff or playing online. I want more upload the most though to play xbox live with the least lag. I find my severs crash if alot of people come in due to low upload speeds.

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I asked the question because there are many people who will pick on anything just in order to have a go at NTL (or whoever). Some people want the speed because it sounds cool to say that they have it but don't use their connection for anything that requires that amount of bandwidth. Very few people will actually make use of the full 10 Mbps but will complain vehemently if speed checks show that they are not getting every bit of it or if they are a day later getting it than someone else.

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That is very true m8.....its just because people dont like to feel that they r being ripped off.

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as its getting closer to the new speed as the man down the pub got any news on nthell,s upload speed ;) or does anyone know anythink cheers

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Your not getting ripped off at all though really, have ntl not just upgraded you to 3mb for the same money that you where paying before just like they'll not be holding their hand out for more when they upgrade you to 10mb for free when its possible to do it.

Ntl will be doing this upgrade when it's feasible to do, thereââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s more than just banging a bit of extra kit into the exchange to be done. bb will have to develop the 10mb config file, that will have to be tested to make sure it does not kill modems. They'll have to do reports to see what equipment (cm's) will need changing and then manage to get it changed before it upgraded. This clearly is not going to happen overnight. Fair play to ntl as they are improving all products at the same time (except phones , thereââ‚ƚ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s not much you can do with them).

Lets not forget where we have come from its not long ago if you wanted a 128k connection you had to fork out mega ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£ÃƒÆ ’‚£ for a ISDN line.

And Britain is still very new with HFC cable networks compared to the US and Canada.

Bill don't let them get to you, If they really where that hacked off they could always go to bulldog (snigger).

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With everyone moaning about Tw getting upgraded before NTL, if you look at their price tarrif their users pay more money for their service than we do on NTL. As the two are merging soon will they get reduced prices & the same service as us with the cap or will we have to pay more & get the same service as them uncapped. I guess we will have more People complaining than that. Personally i would prefer an uncapped reliable service running at 2mb than a 10mb capped.

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The thing that worries me, once again, NTL announce moving to 10mbit when their actual 3mbit service isnt even up to scratch ! :|

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Ask him to do it in 6 months time and it will likely be lower.
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This also worries me, 2mbit is even struggling to sustain max throughput.

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But is that a problem with your setup, the hosts that you connect to, networks beyond NTL's or NTL's infrastructure?

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I done some fairly extensive tests, and my opinion it is not.

steadfast networks in the usa goes over level3 from my connection and alos uses level3 from nildram, nildram gets a sustained 2mbit whilst mine is flaky, the server it self is a dedicated 100mbit.

There are numerous eu servers I have posted about before in other threads.

The only thing I will say is if I download from within the uk the speed is pretty much always max, also if I download over http providing the proxy isnt bailing out on me the speed again is usually good, so to me it looks like peering within the uk is good, ntl's internal network is good but peering outside the uk is shaky especially with cogent.

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ya true m8 the 3mb service you dont even get full speeds i only get 330kb/s so hope they sort the ten meg it was fine the 1st couple of weeks i was getting 380kbs hope you get the full 10mb

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You can't get 380kb/s on 3mb.

Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
 

Interesting that the following has just been posted in a place I use:

"Coming Soon - more speed at no extra cost

Soon we will be increasing your download speed from 2Mb to up to 10Mb, and increasing your upload speed from 256k to up to 384k, all at no extra cost to you.

Your service will remain completely unlimited, so you don't have to worry about how much you use the Internet or the amount you download.

The new speeds will be rolled out region by region from the end of September until early 2006.

You will not need to do anything, the changes will happen automatically, and we will contact you to let you know when you can start to benefit from your new speed."

Telewest customer who received this today......

Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
 

Hi @ ntl broadband discussion forum.

Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
 

:LOL: good point

Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
 

Yay another person that does not understand networking.

ok 3mbit = 3000 bits.

8 bits make a byte so 3000/8 = 375kb/s

Now thats the speed its capable if it was possible to simply pipe data in. Its not that simple because the 2 computers have to have a conversation about the data transmission in order for it to happen. Its this overhead data that drops your connection down in speed so 330kb/s is your connection operating at damn near perfect. Thats not even factoring in things at that end. I have a 288k upload (ADSL) which allows me to upload in theory 32kb/s but in practice its 29 kb/s now thats divided up between the amount of people i send the files to so 2 people would get 14kb's each and so on.

You could expect around 1040-1050 kb/s I reckon on a 10mb connection and thats with perfect conditions :D

I'd also like to add that I may be slightly out on the calculations but they are approximatly right. You certainly cannot get 380kb/s on a 3mb connection.

Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
 

there ya go

Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
 

Have you tried a proper speed test as you cannot always get the correct speed from the transfer dialog box. Try the speed test on the forum front page for a more reliable speed test.

Re: ntl Confirms 10Mb Broadband Speed Increase
 

Look at thumbnail above showing 379kB

So which one is it ? or did you save that picture for later just in case you had this conversation :D

Speedtest

Fri, 23 Sep 2005 07:32:29 UTC
1st 128K took 359 ms = 365103 Bytes/sec = approx 3038 kbits/sec
2nd 128K took 359 ms = 365103 Bytes/sec = approx 3038 kbits/sec
3rd 128K took 360 ms = 364089 Bytes/sec = approx 3029 kbits/sec
4th 128K took 344 ms = 381023 Bytes/sec = approx 3170 kbits/sec


3 meg service