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Seems to me she writes a lot of sense. Care to list what you think incorrect :erm:

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Rwanda wasn’t even given a chance to work.

All the legal hurdles should have been removed in order to implement it. That should have been done at the time the Bill passed.

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I am not surprised that it seems to you that she writes a lot of sense...

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You avoided the question though ...

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Was never intended to happen, it was just a scam to fool people into voting Conservative. It was an expensive waste of tax payers' money.

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You can’t debate emotive conspiracy theories presented without supporting evidence (such as "British Institutions captured by leftist ideologies", "they hate Western Civilisation, they hate families, they hate the Nation", and the old anti-Semitic trope of the "globalist network").

Truss is basically following the MAGA playbook of blaming her, and the countries, problems, on "the others" - it’s always someone else’s fault.

The "Great Restoration" is basically expelling all non-white immigrants, and returning to a nostalgic idealised past of cultural purity, where people were happy and "knew their place"…

The irony of Truss saying she attended CPAC Hungary to talk about the free speech crisis in Britain, when year on year CPAC Hungary refuses to allow journalists who they disagree with to attend, in a country that has just put forward legislation that that would allow the government to monitor, penalise and potentially ban organisations that receive any sort of foreign funding, including donations or EU grants.

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Welcome to the EU:shocked:

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It’s Hungary, not the EU…

Orban is Farage on steroids, using the MAGA playbook.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ict-free-press

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As I understand it, there is no mechanism to ‘eject’ a country from the EU, the idea that it might someday be required was simply not contemplated when the various treaties were drawn up.

At best, Hungary can be cut off from various funding, in theory a country's voting rights in the EU can be suspended but it requires a unanimous vote, so Hungary would need to vote for it’s own exclusion! Seems unlikely.

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You can debate anyone on anything, as long as they will debate with you.

There is definitely truth in institutions captured by leftist ideology.


Decolonise the ……..whatever you want…………we had one of the greatest and benevolent empires the world has ever seen. Yes it had its issues, but in general we left things in better shape than we found them.

But we are supposed to feel generational shame and regret, well I don’t and I’m teaching mt kids not to either.

I haven’t read the MAGA playbook, but if she is referring to the Bank of England which was the body that caused the crash, and the civil service in general, she’d be correct.

I’m not familiar with the “great restoration” , I’d never heard of it before until now.

I doubt it would have much support.

What we need is to end multi-culturalism. It’s failed.

We need a multi-ethnic, mono-culture. You can be from anywhere but to live here you need to embrace our values, and live by them.

Do they also imprison, emotionally vulnerable women for social media posts? It’s not that ironic.

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So you're in favour of a government being able to ignore the law as it sees fit in order to force policies through?

Wow. Even for you, wow.

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Er - £1 billion per week it costs to house/feed these undocumented people of fighting age. A waste of taxpayers’ money? Or what?

That stupid Starmer should at least not have thrown away the taxpayers’ money shelled out in the run-up to the first Rwanda flight. He should have tried to deport a plane load. Then monitor the effect.


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The legal hurdles to Rwanda had been overcome, subject to any last minute appeal by a deportee. Ignoring the law has never been a UK government option.

Surely you knew that?

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Hugh mentioned supporting evidence.

You've tried to second guess what Liz Truss may have meant and continued in the same vein. Heck, I dare say if your paths crossed she may even thank you for your efforts here. But like her, you've failed to back up your assertions and conspiracy theories with any supporting evidence.

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It's what you voted for.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...sylum-seekers/

We've sacrificed the ability to return unlawful migrants to France and gained sovereignty. Hopefully, we can negotiate this ability back in the future.

I do think we need to process immigrants quicker to get as many as possible into the working population.

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Without evidence it becomes a "Oh not it didn't!" "Oh yes it did!" kind of argument rather than a nuanced discussion.