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Jaymoss 26-09-2022 14:43

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that is really quite good

Paul 26-09-2022 18:01

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36134986)
"The cost of charging an electric car surges by 42% in just four months to 18p per mile, compared with 19p for petrol."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...9p-petrol.html

That report says deisel is more expensice at 21p a mile. I find that hard to believe.
Round here, deisel costs about 9% more than pertrol, but all my diesel cars have done at least 20% more MPG, so the cost per mile is less than petrol, not more.

I average 44.4 MPG in my current diesel car, which works out at 18.0p per mile at current prices (176.7p per litre).

Hugh 26-09-2022 21:04

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Just checked my Shell Energy account - it recommends that I increase my monthly Direct Debit to £308.00, as my predicted monthly usage is £343.72 (for comparison, last year at this time of year, my Sept 24th - Oct 23rd bill was £106.88, and my DD was £103).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1664222426

SnoopZ 26-09-2022 21:50

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135019)
Just checked my Shell Energy account - it recommends that I increase my monthly Direct Debit to £308.00, as my predicted monthly usage is £343.72 (for comparison, last year at this time of year, my Sept 24th - Oct 23rd bill was £106.88, and my DD was £103).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...4&d=1664222426

Ouch that's alot, are you charging electric cars and have heating on 24/7 or something?

Hugh 26-09-2022 22:19

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Ouch that's alot, are you charging electric cars and have heating on 24/7 or something?

Nope - actually using less than last year (4 bed detached house).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1664227382

Mr K 27-09-2022 07:20

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135022)
Nope - actually using less than last year (4 bed detached house).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1664227382

Never mind Hugh, it's gone to a good home. My quarterly Shell dividend has just come through, very healthy ;)

SnoopZ 27-09-2022 08:57

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135022)
Nope - actually using less than last year (4 bed detached house).

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...5&d=1664227382

Still sounds way above average but i don't really know.

Hugh 27-09-2022 09:31

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It is above average (about 25-30%), but the average is calculated on a 3 bed semi, and we have a 4 bed detached.

Paul 27-09-2022 15:01

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36135058)
It is above average (about 25-30%), but the average is calculated on a 3 bed semi, and we have a 4 bed detached.

What average are you referring to ?
I have a 3 bed semi, and my usage is way more than the so called national average that the cap refers to.

Jaymoss 27-09-2022 15:17

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36135087)
What average are you referring to ?
I have a 3 bed semi, and my usage is way more than the so called national average that the cap refers to.

For the average to be that figure means there are some using more and some using less I am sure you know how averages are calculated Paul. You use more I use less so we cancel each other out hahaha

Paul 27-09-2022 18:38

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Thank you capt obvious, but that wasnt my question.

Jaymoss 27-09-2022 19:02

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36135122)
Thank you capt obvious, but that wasnt my question.

Sorry but I though the average he was talking about was obvious seeing as the cap is an average and this thread has been using it as the average so I assumed maybe incorrectly that was the average the obvious one

Taf 27-09-2022 19:51

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Paul 27-09-2022 20:08

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36135130)
I though the average he was talking about was obvious seeing as the cap is an average and this thread has been using it as the average so I assumed maybe incorrectly that was the average the obvious one

I find it hard to believe that the average UK household is actually a 3 bed semi.
The cap constantly quotes itself as being the UK "average" - but its really hard to find any definitive information on what they actually mean.
What size/occupancy/usage is this fabled "average".

jfman 27-09-2022 20:27

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36135140)
I find it hard to believe that the average UK household is actually a 3 bed semi.
The cap constantly quotes itself as being the UK "average" - but its really hard to find any definitive information on what they actually mean.
What size/occupancy/usage is this fabled "average".

I suspect it’s plucked from (almost) thin air.

The Government (BEIS) publish average usage that’s higher than the OFGEM “typical” use figures.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...ice-statistics

I think then unhelpfully the media trying to simplify it for readers tries to attribute this value to one type of home and baseline smaller or larger ones against this.

However, many factors around build quality, insulation, glazing, system efficiency etc. mean even these well intentioned generalisations could be out significantly against a sizeable proportion of each dwelling type.


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