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Damien 16-12-2017 08:25

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929107)
What was this BS from the EU all this time about the clock is ticking?

Trade talks now won’t start still March, the EU is so full of Lying & Scheming toe rags. :afire:

The EU have made the point that they can't start until the government has agreed what they want in a deal.

1andrew1 16-12-2017 09:39

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35929105)
Can you not see any positives at all with Brexit, Andrew?

I just started the main one - we won't be paying career MEP Nigel Farage a salary. :D

jonbxx 16-12-2017 09:49

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929107)
What was this BS from the EU all this time about the clock is ticking?

Trade talks now won’t start still March, the EU is so full of Lying & Scheming toe rags. :afire:

It’s because the unaccountable, corrupt unelected bureaucarts need to consult and have guidelines signed off by the member states.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Can you not see any positives at all with Brexit, Andrew?
We did this one a while back where I asked people to take the opposite point. For me, the EU lacks agility due to its size and the restrictive rules on setting VAT were bad (see the ‘tampon tax’)

When I asked our leave friends to name something good about the EU, we got answers like ‘nothing’ and ‘we’re leaving’

1andrew1 16-12-2017 09:49

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35929117)
The EU have made the point that they can't start until the government has agreed what they want in a deal.

So, talks will formally begin in March 2018 once Theresa May has got her cabinet to agree what they want from a deal. Is the idea that these talks will last after March 2019 when we leave the EU and end sometime in 2021?

Osem 16-12-2017 10:44

Re: Brexit discussion
 
Meanwhile in the Eurolalaland utopia it's great to see there's no sign of any trend towards the right wing amongst all those welcoming Austrians we heard so much about...

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If the coalition is ratified, Austria would become the only western European state with a governing far-right party.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42374693

1andrew1 16-12-2017 10:51

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 35929124)
When I asked our leave friends to name something good about the EU, we got answers like ‘nothing’ and ‘we’re leaving’

Yes, I remember that well.

Dave42 16-12-2017 10:56

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929107)
What was this BS from the EU all this time about the clock is ticking?

Trade talks now won’t start still March, the EU is so full of Lying & Scheming toe rags. :afire:

aye it the EU's fault our government have no idea what it wants and not even discussed it yet like

1andrew1 16-12-2017 11:05

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35929132)
aye it the EU's fault our government have no idea what it wants and not even discussed it yet like

:D:D:D

Mick 16-12-2017 13:04

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35929132)
aye it the EU's fault our government have no idea what it wants and not even discussed it yet like

It does not take 3 months to decide. So just shows this remark from the EU about the clock is ticking, was a steaming pile of BS from the EU, as usual.

Dave42 16-12-2017 13:12

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929144)
It does not take 3 months to decide. So just shows this remark from the EU about the clock is ticking, was a steaming pile of BS from the EU, as usual.

em they had 18 month to decide like and they party is more split that ever

OLD BOY 16-12-2017 13:50

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35929145)
em they had 18 month to decide like and they party is more split that ever

Both the main parties are split, Dave. 18 months may seem a long time, but this whole business is subject to a very tight timetable.

The government does know what it wants, but getting the wording right so it doesn't upset one faction or another is a nightmare.

Given that TM doesn't have a majority in the House of Commons, I think she is doing a brilliant job. Many did not think we'd get this far.

1andrew1 16-12-2017 13:51

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929144)
It does not take 3 months to decide. So just shows this remark from the EU about the clock is ticking, was a steaming pile of BS from the EU, as usual.

Looks like it will have taken the tardy British cabinet a staggering 21 months to decide but I'm sure if they decide earlier then the accommodating EU will be happy to meet them!

OLD BOY 16-12-2017 13:55

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35929148)
Looks like it will have taken the tardy British cabinet a staggering 21 months to decide but I'm sure if they decide earlier then the accommodating EU will be happy to meet them!

You tell such great jokes, Andrew.

I mean, 'accommodating EU'! Priceless!

Dave42 16-12-2017 14:06

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35929147)
Both the main parties are split, Dave. 18 months may seem a long time, but this whole business is subject to a very tight timetable.

The government does know what it wants, but getting the wording right so it doesn't upset one faction or another is a nightmare.

Given that TM doesn't have a majority in the House of Commons, I think she is doing a brilliant job. Many did not think we'd get this far.

yes both paries are split but tories are split the most

1andrew1 16-12-2017 15:36

Re: Brexit discussion
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35929150)
You tell such great jokes, Andrew.

I mean, 'accommodating EU'! Priceless!

I wouldn't call it priceless, I'd call it a £44bn joke! :D

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35929105)
You are confusing what the EU wants with what they will get, Andrew.

Whereas Corbyn in his weakness might well agree to that, Theresa will insist either:

1. That the ECJ ceases to apply to the UK after Brexit or

2. That the UK will continue to be involved in EU law as it applies to us during the transitional period.

I'm afraid that you are confusing what you want with the reality of the EU's strong negotiating position.
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During a trade visit to China, Philip Hammond was asked whether the UK would remain subject to the jurisdiction of the European Court of Justice and participate in the single market and customs union, despite not having membership or a role in rule making.
"In a word, yes," said the Chancellor.
https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-tr...-says-11172610


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